Liberty University COM (LUCOM) Discussion Thread 2013-2014

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Just got an interview invite this afternoon! For January 28th 🙂 Those of you who have interviewed here, how was the interview process?
 
hello premeds! here are some of my objective thoughts about lucom:

there seems to be a lot of criticism for this school on sdn, most of it warranted. lucom, being brand sparkling new, will have growing pains with its curriculum and the first few classes will carry this burden for future students. the world won't know how well lucom will prepare its future doctors for the boards until 2016. the quality of rotation sites that are affiliated with lucom and how well they will prepare you for your speciality are unknown. until 2018, we won't be seeing any match lists to determine how welcoming residencies are to lucom grads. at the moment, there are no research opportunities on campus for the inaugural class and this should be a red flag for those gunning for top specialties. simply put, there are way too many unknowns with lucom. this is me playing devil's advocate!

behind the hate and criticism from overly concerned parties, lies hope. those who have posted on this thread after interviewing at this school have said nothing negative. in fact, most interviewers were impressed with lucom's faculty, staff, campus, and surrounding environment. some students are even attending lucom over other schools! this is pretty crazy and is not approved by this super crazy sdn community...but for them to spurn schools for lucom speaks volumes of how lucom is able to recruit students. how is lucom doing this? either these students are nuts or lucom is that good!

i interviewed and got accepted here way back in october and here are my subjective views:

unless you're from a small town near lynchburg, you will have a lay-over flight since lynchburg's airport does not accommodate standard passenger planes. i found this somewhat annoying since i had to spend extra time en route to this small town. im way out of my element in lynchburg since i come from a big city, but i found lynchburg to be nice, clean, and safe. i stayed at the kirkley hotel and conference center and was able to walk to lucom's office at the mall. there are hardly any sidewalks in lynchburg so keep that in mind if you want to take an adventure by foot.

lucom's staff and instructors are genuinely friendly. they help calm nervous prospective students with their jokes and answer any questions you have. lucom's dean chants weird things to a man called jesus, but he and the staff do not force you be christian. don't listen to the haters spewing out weird religious crap about lucom. it's pretty funny, sad, and scary to hear these things coming from future physicians who are too quick to judge lucom and its hard working staff. lucom is part of a christian school but they won't and can't teach its funny idea of creationism, not unless they don't want to be accredited. lucom might be the laughing stock of the do schools now, but it can truly surprise people in a couple of years when great doctors come from this school. why? the faculty have crazy passion to teach students medical science and how to be loving doctors. i dont know what their quality of teaching is but i really sensed their excitement to nurture and educate students! lucom's state of the art facility with fancy toys is a bonus but shouldn't affect your decision to come here. everyone running and teaching in lucom wants this medical school to rock'n roll and i believe they will help students in any way they can and won't leave students in the dust after the school receives their $$.

what i didn't like about lucom...was the lack of authentic cultural foods available in the city like boba milk tea, taco trucks, korean bbq, kebabs... there is no costco either. ok i have nothing bad to say about lucom, only concerns.

is lucom worth investing $200k+ in? will you be able to achieve your desired specialty? heck, will you even get a residency seat after your 4th year? will they secretly force you to chant with them and sell your soul to god...and if you don't will they kick you out?! who knows, but i'm crazy enough to find out.

drxpto
 
Got the call today, and unfortunately I got wait-listed.

Good luck to the other applicants.
 
moto_za said:
Do they tell you when you can expect to hear back or why thy chose to WL?
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I tried to get some more information on the phone when they called me. Basically from what I understood, mid February will be the soonest the wait list will be looked at again.

Edit: no mention as to why I was wait listed. Admittedly, I'm lacking a biochem class for their prerequisites, but I don't know if that's necessarily the reason for my wait listing.
 
benoit75 said:
I tried to get some more information on the phone when they called me. Basically from what I understood, mid February will be the soonest the wait list will be looked at again.

Edit: no mention as to why I was wait listed. Admittedly, I'm lacking a biochem class for their prerequisites, but I don't know if that's necessarily the reason for my wait listing.
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Sorry about the waitlist. Hope you hear something back mid Feb! What were your stats?
 
3.35 cgpa, 3.0 sgpa, BS college of engineering. 25 MCAT.

EC's and letters stacked.
 
meant to join and post this yesterday, i interviewed jan 7 and thankfully got my acceptance yesterday afternoon

i was hesitant about Liberty before interviewing, however, after meeting the dean and faculty, I really think they have all the elements to produce an amazing medical school. it's also exciting that we will be the first to use brand new, state of the art facilities

good luck to everyone applying and preparing to interview
 
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Mad Jack said:
So in my second email to them, I stated that particular issues of mine were that I have lived with my girlfriend for several years but we are unmarried and I have a glass of wine every night with dinner, because that's just how I was raised. The response was very polite and also very clear that this behavior was unacceptable. Here is the response email in its entirety:

Marry that gal and refrain from wine at the dinner table for a few years!? Great question. I agree, it is a big factor.

Nothing of eternal importance is done outside of prayer (J.L. Falwell). . .Have you prayed about it?

Married students have asked the same question about alcoholic beverages. While it is certainly not up to Liberty University or LUCOM to condemn any person, there are certain activities and behavior we do not condone. As part of the Liberty University community, we agree to live by certain rules and sacrifices while we are students or are employed. It would be remarkable to say that every student and employee always strictly adhered to the university’s mission and practiced due-diligence and integrity in every decision throughout our history. It would also be a false statement.

Thus, in staying true to the university’s mission and vision, I would respectfully caution a student from applying as the consumption of alcohol or couples living together outside of marriage is a violation of Liberty University conduct. Whether a person believes it is right or wrong is not necessarily valid discussion as these are our rules. Should a student decide to attend knowing this but vocally disagreeing among their peers completely changes the learning environment we seek to create.

In short, you have some time. Think and pray about it and please know I am available if you ever have any questions or concerns.

Thanks again for the email,

Redacted

This implies that the LUCOM honor code is identical to the undergraduate code, which is here:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...cQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNGCZYHg3IK2N8K4jRaZ_HFl4pqnTA

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...sQFjAD&usg=AFQjCNGpXvh5kHjf5cmRcDWTLGEy7TOEWA

Above is a list of reprimands. While I can't find a copy of The Liberty Way, the above document has the consequences for breaking any of Liberty's many rules.
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I feel as tho this should be shared with you guys, what one person found after asking the Dean about drinking alcohol with dinner and living with a significant other (not married). This type of environment is too extreme for some, myself included, and I think it is something you should be aware of before putting a deposit down.
 
I spoke with student services, not the dean, just to clarify. I feel that people should be aware of what they are getting themselves involved in by attending LUCOM. It might very well be a great school, but it will make a person who is not suited for it completely miserable. The staff was very respectful and friendly, and not judgmental, but they have a very clear stance on how they expect their students to behave. Best of luck to all of you, please think carefully about attending LUCOM.
 
Ahh my bad.

And ya know, different strokes for different folks, if this is the type of environment you want then more power to you, I just think everyone applying to Liberty should be aware of what is expected of them. Same for any school really.
 
Mad Jack said:
I spoke with student services, not the dean, just to clarify. I feel that people should be aware of what they are getting themselves involved in by attending LUCOM. It might very well be a great school, but it will make a person who is not suited for it completely miserable. The staff was very respectful and friendly, and not judgmental, but they have a very clear stance on how they expect their students to behave. Best of luck to all of you, please think carefully about attending LUCOM.
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Interesting to see that they answered those questions.
 
So I got an email inviting me to interview; a list of dates were given as well. I chose a date and emailed the contact person given in the email however, I have not heard anything back as far as if this date is available/what time is the interview, etc. Anyone else have a problem with LUCOM getting back to you after your interview invite?

I'm thinking all these horrible thoughts--like maybe they sent the invite to me by mistake...and they don't really want to interview me. I know, I just need to calm down.
 
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I was not accepted nor given a place on the wait-list.

However congratulations to those who were accepted to LUCOM.

Good luck to those applying and interviewing.
 
familiesareforever said:
I was not accepted nor given a place on the wait-list.

However congratulations to those who were accepted to LUCOM.

Good luck to those applying and interviewing.
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Sorry about that man. Wish you all the best elsewhere and in the future. Keep your head up.
 
Mad Jack said:
They are very open about their beliefs, and rightly so. No one wins if they sign up a bunch of med students that they'll have to expel a month later.
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I thought that their grad students, including the medical students, did not have to adhere strictly to the Liberty Way. When I interviewed, they made no mention of what rules the med students had to abide by outside of school. I think your just expected to conduct yourself responsibly, like med students at any other school.
 
No alcohol and no sex...... I don't even know what to say about this. Stressed out sober med students with blue balls and the inability to blow off steam or watch porn.. This sounds worse than hell. You couldn't pay me to go to this school. But hey, to each his own. Hopefully it works out for some of you guys. Good luck
 
JC719 said:
I thought that their grad students, including the medical students, did not have to adhere strictly to the Liberty Way. When I interviewed, they made no mention of what rules the med students had to abide by outside of school. I think your just expected to conduct yourself responsibly, like med students at any other school.
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I just copied and pasted the email, word for word. Contact student services yourself if you would like and ask about whether your conduct will be acceptable at Liberty. The name I redacted was Ben, the same guy who posted the LUCOM Class of 2018 welcome message from student services, so it isn't like he's some nobody.
 
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I think y'all are making a mountain out of a molehill.

LU has been very open about their code of conduct, which I can respect. They've also been very open (at least during my interview) that grad students do not live on campus, and there is no such thing as the "Liberty Police" following you around sticking their nose in your business. They are not looking for reasons to expel someone, and I can reason to guess that if you were walking out of a rated R movie one night and happened to see one of the faculty, you probably would never hear another word about it.

Who is going to know what you do in the privacy of your own home? Publish a video of yourself doing something stupid online, and you'll probably have some issues...which I think would be the case at most med schools.

Taking a hard line stance on students who run into trouble with the law concerning alcohol is nothing new. I know of and have heard of more than a few students who were expelled or deferred after a DWI or DUI, PI, or the like.

At any rate, the point I'm making is that the things you would likely get into trouble at LU for would most likely get you into trouble at another school.

I can appreciate the administration's reply to your e mail being worded the way it is. Of course they are not going to advocate for values contrary to what the values and mission of the school are, and if a perspective student doesn't feel like they have the level of discretion necessary to succeed at LU, then they are well advised to look elsewhere.
 
First off congrats to those accepted. I will be attending LUCOM next year and am stoked to have the chance to become a physician. I decided to create an account to keep up with the progression of the school. Anyway, I thought it would be insightful to share some information about a residency match between LUCOM and Mountain State Health Alliance (MSHA) at Johnston Memorial Hospital in Abingdon, VA beginning in 2015. The VP and CMO of MSHA is a good friend of mine. He revealed this to me several weeks ago and it was probably the strongest confirmation for me to attend LUCOM. Although I knew LUCOM was promising, this proved that LUCOM had already confirmed a deal with a good institution for potential residencies. It was a big announcement late last year when VCOM made a partnership with MSHA. This is probably one of many budding relationships currently under the radar between LUCOM and other institutions. Once they get us moving through the first year, I believe this announcement will be made public along with several others.
 
scribblet113 said:
First off congrats to those accepted. I will be attending LUCOM next year and am stoked to have the chance to become a physician. I decided to create an account to keep up with the progression of the school. Anyway, I thought it would be insightful to share some information about a residency match between LUCOM and Mountain State Health Alliance (MSHA) at Johnston Memorial Hospital in Abingdon, VA beginning in 2015. The VP and CMO of MSHA is a good friend of mine. He revealed this to me several weeks ago and it was probably the strongest confirmation for me to attend LUCOM. Although I knew LUCOM was promising, this proved that LUCOM had already confirmed a deal with a good institution for potential residencies. It was a big announcement late last year when VCOM made a partnership with MSHA. This is probably one of many budding relationships currently under the radar between LUCOM and other institutions. Once they get us moving through the first year, I believe this announcement will be made public along with several others.
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Do you happen to have any idea what specialities these new residencies would be in? Thanks!
 
WTEngel said:
I think y'all are making a mountain out of a molehill.

LU has been very open about their code of conduct, which I can respect. They've also been very open (at least during my interview) that grad students do not live on campus, and there is no such thing as the "Liberty Police" following you around sticking their nose in your business. They are not looking for reasons to expel someone, and I can reason to guess that if you were walking out of a rated R movie one night and happened to see one of the faculty, you probably would never hear another word about it.
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Maybe you are right, and I really hope that everyone that attends LUCOM has an amazing time and gets a great education. It's important to find a school that matches your goals and your personality.

For the majority of people, there is a huge social aspect to medical school. It's not all studying. Most medical schools have social events throughout the year that serve alcohol. I know many schools that have "med school proms" that students and faculty eat and drink together. At KCUMB, they rent out a bar after every final exam. I'm going to medical school to get an education and start a career in medicine, but there are other things I am looking for... dating, making new friends, keeping up with old friends. I just couldn't go to a school that I would need to tip toe around and hide my private life. To each his own. Good luck to everyone and I hope you find a school that fits for you. That's the most important thing. Cheers (no pun intended).
 
WTEngel said:
I think y'all are making a mountain out of a molehill.

LU has been very open about their code of conduct, which I can respect. They've also been very open (at least during my interview) that grad students do not live on campus, and there is no such thing as the "Liberty Police" following you around sticking their nose in your business. They are not looking for reasons to expel someone, and I can reason to guess that if you were walking out of a rated R movie one night and happened to see one of the faculty, you probably would never hear another word about it.

Who is going to know what you do in the privacy of your own home? Publish a video of yourself doing something stupid online, and you'll probably have some issues...which I think would be the case at most med schools.

Taking a hard line stance on students who run into trouble with the law concerning alcohol is nothing new. I know of and have heard of more than a few students who were expelled or deferred after a DWI or DUI, PI, or the like.

At any rate, the point I'm making is that the things you would likely get into trouble at LU for would most likely get you into trouble at another school.

I can appreciate the administration's reply to your e mail being worded the way it is. Of course they are not going to advocate for values contrary to what the values and mission of the school are, and if a perspective student doesn't feel like they have the level of discretion necessary to succeed at LU, then they are well advised to look elsewhere.
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There are practical concerns though. If you have a girlfriend, she would be unwelcome at LUCOM events, for instance.

Let me just put it this way. I've known people who have gone to work in Saudi Arabia, where American medical professionals basically live in enclaves. They are forbidden from drinking, but most say "it isn't a big deal, the authorities pretty much turn the other way and ignore it." But then there's been that one or two guys that everyone knows that has been arrested, sentenced, and deported. Like with these workers, official policy probably won't be an issue for most people, but for those that it is an issue, it will likely be a big one.

We'll see how it all plays out though. Maybe they will just let a bunch of things slide. But I couldn't lie by omission every day for for years. And the idea that offenses that would result in expulsion at Liberty would result in expulsion anywhere is quite untrue. Most schools will expel you for a DUI or other illegal conduct. Liberty will expel you for champaign on New Year's or admitting you spent the night at the same house as someone of the opposite sex. The ability for a school to expel or discipline the vast majority of typical students at their discretion is very particular to Liberty.
 
Mad Jack said:
There are practical concerns though. If you have a girlfriend, she would be unwelcome at LUCOM events, for instance.

Let me just put it this way. I've known people who have gone to work in Saudi Arabia, where American medical professionals basically live in enclaves. They are forbidden from drinking, but most say "it isn't a big deal, the authorities pretty much turn the other way and ignore it." But then there's been that one or two guys that everyone knows that has been arrested, sentenced, and deported. Like with these workers, official policy probably won't be an issue for most people, but for those that it is an issue, it will likely be a big one.

We'll see how it all plays out though. Maybe they will just let a bunch of things slide. But I couldn't lie by omission every day for for years. And the idea that offenses that would result in expulsion at Liberty would result in expulsion anywhere is quite untrue. Most schools will expel you for a DUI or other illegal conduct. Liberty will expel you for champaign on New Year's or admitting you spent the night at the same house as someone of the opposite sex. The ability for a school to expel or discipline the vast majority of typical students at their discretion is very particular to Liberty.
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When will you have to admit to these "wrong-doings"? Is there a confessional beginning of every month? I have many friends in law school, dental school, and medical school. Friends in law and dental tend to have more time for social outlets than my medical school friends. I just completed a post-bacc last year and that in itself took away most of my time from all my old college friends and even new friends in the program, I can only imagine how much time real med school will consume. I am dating a Jewish girl with much more liberal beliefs than mine and I don't expect to be judged here anymore than anywhere in this country (including my own family). I have thought about this so much and have had to deal with criticisms from many because of the undergraduate strict regulations and have talked with several people as well who have attended Sweet Briar and Lynchburg College who stated that Lynchburg as a whole is probably 50% evangelical conservative and 50% moderate to liberal. There are also plenty of things to do in downtown Lynchburg. I chose LUCOM over ACOM, WVSOM, and CUSOM because Lynchburg beats out Dothan, the boonies of WV, and the isolated location of CUSOM. I can say that for those interested in the Appalachian region DO schools, Lynchburg is probably the best city, 2 hours from Richmond, 1 hour from Charlottesville, 2.5 hours from D.C. This is even better than VCOM-Blacksburg which is quite isolated. The point is we are not undergrads living in the dorms, policed by the RA's every second. Frankly, for me, the idea of promoting strict professionalism, which is what I believe they are pushing more than anything, will be great for my work ethic.
 
I must also add that I believe LUCOM is heavily modeling VCOM's program and legacy. VCOM sends the majority of its students to Abingdon, Lebanon, Marion, and Norton and I believe LUCOM will be doing similarly in the south central parts of Virginia. These schools are regional and want to graduate doctors that will work in the surrounding areas and in the state of VA. Also, Dean Ronnie Martin spent several years at VCOM as Vice Dean for Graduate Medical Education. VCOM speaks very highly of him and is already in great support of LUCOM.
 
Just personally I would advise not to go to a school whose rules you plan on breaking. Yes they might not police your dinner table or bedroom directly but all it takes is one jerk who sees you with a mudslide at Applebee's and decides to report it and you could get severely reprimanded or expelled, which could then affect the rest of your career.

Obviously LUCOM is looking for a very specific type of student, which is their right, but if you don't fit that mold I would stay the hell away
 
Mad Jack said:
There are practical concerns though. If you have a girlfriend, she would be unwelcome at LUCOM events, for instance.

Let me just put it this way. I've known people who have gone to work in Saudi Arabia, where American medical professionals basically live in enclaves. They are forbidden from drinking, but most say "it isn't a big deal, the authorities pretty much turn the other way and ignore it." But then there's been that one or two guys that everyone knows that has been arrested, sentenced, and deported. Like with these workers, official policy probably won't be an issue for most people, but for those that it is an issue, it will likely be a big one.

We'll see how it all plays out though. Maybe they will just let a bunch of things slide. But I couldn't lie by omission every day for for years. And the idea that offenses that would result in expulsion at Liberty would result in expulsion anywhere is quite untrue. Most schools will expel you for a DUI or other illegal conduct. Liberty will expel you for champaign on New Year's or admitting you spent the night at the same house as someone of the opposite sex. The ability for a school to expel or discipline the vast majority of typical students at their discretion is very particular to Liberty.
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I don't see anything that says a girlfriend would be unwelcome at school events.

I lived and worked in Saudi Arabia for slightly over a year and my experience was amazing. You couldn't buy alcohol in the stores, and it was illegal to possess. That being said, the average person who wanted a beer or a glass of wine occasionally had their lifestyle altered very minimally. Like your friends said, it was available, and discretion and good judgement was important.

Your whole line of thinking is centered around wanting to attend what sounds like a medical school not based in reality. Figure out your priorities. I am completing a 1 year SMP, and like the previous poster stated, you can pretty much rule out having much of a social life during first and second year. You'll have time to socialize occasionally, but this idea of going to bars after exams and finding your next love interest is a false expectation, IMHO. Where I did my post bacc, the only thing we had time for after an exam was prepping for our next exam.

Again, no one is policing you or interrogating you about your personal life. If you do something that gets you in trouble with the honor code, it was likely something large enough to get you in trouble no matter where you are attending.

If you are looking for reasons to attend or not attend, I'm sure you can come up with something better than the honor code scaring you.
 
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WTEngel said:
If you are looking for reasons to attend or not attend, I'm sure you can come up with something better than the honor code scaring you.
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I think this is bull.

Not being able to follow a particular schools honor code is a completely valid reason not to apply there.

I like to drink, and brew beer.
I'm also very vocal about gay rights and make my sexuality no secret.
I also don't have a problem with porn, in fact I wrote my senior capstone about pornography.

I would not be able to adhere to the honor code. I do not fit their mission. Therefore I did not apply. Make sense?
 
touchpause13 said:
I think this is bull.

Not being able to follow a particular schools honor code is a completely valid reason not to apply there.

I like to drink, and brew beer.
I'm also very vocal about gay rights and make my sexuality no secret.
I also don't have a problem with porn, in fact I wrote my senior capstone about pornography.

I would not be able to adhere to the honor code. I do not fit their mission. Therefore I did not apply. Make sense?
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It sounds like your mind was made up a long time ago then.

I appreciate you doing your best to try and help everyone make their decision...

If you don't have any skin in the game on this matter, why are you so active in this thread?
 
I saw that one person from the January 7 interview has heard back about whether they were accepted or not, I was wondering if anyone else has heard anything?
 
WTEngel said:
It sounds like your mind was made up a long time ago then.

I appreciate you doing your best to try and help everyone make their decision...

If you don't have any skin in the game on this matter, why are you so active in this thread?
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What happens with LUCOM will affect the entire DO profession IMO.
 
WTEngel said:
It sounds like your mind was made up a long time ago then.

I appreciate you doing your best to try and help everyone make their decision...

If you don't have any skin in the game on this matter, why are you so active in this thread?
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I agree very strongly with everything WTEngel has posted. Touchpause13 has been posting elsewhere as well about LUCOM. I'm living in an off-campus house near a lake with a strong potential to eventually marry my girlfriend and live my life. I mean many people will be attending that are well over the average med student age, some who have worked "big boy" jobs, some with kids, etc. This is a time to work hard and then make as much money as you can earn. Med school is such a privilege and I think many forget that.
 
touchpause13 said:
What happens with LUCOM will affect the entire DO profession IMO.
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And so far the things you've taken issue with have more to do with the culture and values that LU wants to encourage.

These values encourage professionalism, respect for yourself and others, among other things. In addition to that, the core values for the medical school appear to be centered on practicing a loving, compassionate form of medicine.

So far I see nothing wrong. Additionally, I'm sure you would have been treated with the utmost respect and been given just as fair an evaluation as every other perspective student.

So far the things I've personally seen from Liberty cast a bright light on the DO community, and they appear to be passionate about recruiting an inaugural class that will continue that trend.

The only things I have heard to the contrary are coming from anecdotal sources and speculation. Even the e mail that was pasted above was professional, respectful, and clear, albeit disconcerting to a few.

I wish you the best of luck. Ultimately, everyone getting accepted to a school they will be successful at is what's most important. I am pretty sure that Liberty will not be dealing the DO community any significant setbacks, and it's a bit ludicrous to think any one school is going to create such a wave that it will result in the downfall of the DO community.
 
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What happens with LUCOM will affect the entire DO profession IMO.
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How so? Because they may pray before the white coat ceremony or put a christmas tree in the main auditorium? Small things. From what I've heard by many physicians, the doctor you become is ultimately influenced by your rotations and residency. Then after that you're on your own being who you want to be. But by having values and being a good person I believe will enhance a physician's worth.

I work in the ER all the time. The doc comes in clocks in then clocks out. No one has time to preach their religious of political beliefs to the staff or patients. You do your job.
 
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Hey everyone! I just touched down in Lynchburg and am all settled in. If anyone would like to meet up before the big day pm me!
 
touchpause13 said:
I think this is bull.

Not being able to follow a particular schools honor code is a completely valid reason not to apply there.

I like to drink, and brew beer.
I'm also very vocal about gay rights and make my sexuality no secret.
I also don't have a problem with porn, in fact I wrote my senior capstone about pornography.

I would not be able to adhere to the honor code. I do not fit their mission. Therefore I did not apply. Make sense?
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Why are we talking about porn on a student doctor forum website again? Can you please stay respectful and focused on what the point of this website is? I hope those of who know can ignore this nonsense.
 
WTEngel said:
I don't see anything that says a girlfriend would be unwelcome at school events.

I lived and worked in Saudi Arabia for slightly over a year and my experience was amazing. You couldn't buy alcohol in the stores, and it was illegal to possess. That being said, the average person who wanted a beer or a glass of wine occasionally had their lifestyle altered very minimally. Like your friends said, it was available, and discretion and good judgement was important.

Your whole line of thinking is centered around wanting to attend what sounds like a medical school not based in reality. Figure out your priorities. I just completed a post bacc, and like the previous poster stated, you can pretty much rule out having much of a social life during first and second year. You'll have time to socialize occasionally, but this idea of going to bars after exams and finding your next love interest is a false expectation, IMHO. Where I did my post bacc, the only thing we had time for after an exam was prepping for our next exam.

Again, no one is policing you or interrogating you about your personal life. If you do something that gets you in trouble with the honor code, it was likely something large enough to get you in trouble no matter where you are attending.

If you are looking for reasons to attend or not attend, I'm sure you can come up with something better than the honor code scaring you.
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I don't go out to bars to find girls, and I have a girlfriend. I think you misunderstand the point of my post. Alcohol is completely and entirely unacceptable in any amount and for any reason. Sleeping in the same household as someone of the opposite sex that is not a member of your family is completely unacceptable under all circumstances. This isn't about partying and drinking like crazy. You can violate many of their rules by living a fairly ordinary life. Even their staff is expected to uphold the rules to the letter. I find it interesting that in an environment where even your professors must uphold the conduct code, nearly everyone going there is openly admitting that they intend to violate it and expects no consequences in return. If people were going there with the intent of upholding their end of the bargain because they believe in, share, and live by those values, that is one thing. But going in and outright banking on violating the rules and not being held to account is quite another.

Their policy goes far beyond professionalism. LECOM encourages professionalism. LUCOM wants to regulate the behavior of both your professional and private life.

And as I stated before, I do not believe this is a bad environment for a person that truly shares the values of the school. The staff are friendly, the facilities are nice from what I hear, and the rotations might pan out to be pretty good overall. But that does not change the fact that if you intend on living a life that has behaviors that fall outside of The Liberty Way, you might want to reconsider what you are committing yourself to. I am not trying to shoot down the school, but rather trying to make sure people are making an informed and thoughtful decision for their sake and that of the institution they plan to attend.
 
scribblet113 said:
When will you have to admit to these "wrong-doings"? Is there a confessional beginning of every month? I have many friends in law school, dental school, and medical school. Friends in law and dental tend to have more time for social outlets than my medical school friends. I just completed a post-bacc last year and that in itself took away most of my time from all my old college friends and even new friends in the program, I can only imagine how much time real med school will consume. I am dating a Jewish girl with much more liberal beliefs than mine and I don't expect to be judged here anymore than anywhere in this country (including my own family). I have thought about this so much and have had to deal with criticisms from many because of the undergraduate strict regulations and have talked with several people as well who have attended Sweet Briar and Lynchburg College who stated that Lynchburg as a whole is probably 50% evangelical conservative and 50% moderate to liberal. There are also plenty of things to do in downtown Lynchburg. I chose LUCOM over ACOM, WVSOM, and CUSOM because Lynchburg beats out Dothan, the boonies of WV, and the isolated location of CUSOM. I can say that for those interested in the Appalachian region DO schools, Lynchburg is probably the best city, 2 hours from Richmond, 1 hour from Charlottesville, 2.5 hours from D.C. This is even better than VCOM-Blacksburg which is quite isolated. The point is we are not undergrads living in the dorms, policed by the RA's every second. Frankly, for me, the idea of promoting strict professionalism, which is what I believe they are pushing more than anything, will be great for my work ethic.
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Everyone I have known that attended medical school had a fairly healthy social life and enough time to go out on weekends or participate in multiple clubs and extracurriculars. Good time management and your ability to absorb the material can drastically alter how much free time you have available. I say this to try and shake you of the mindset you are in before you become entrenched in it. Med school is largely what you make of it, and those that go in with a particular idea of what it will be tend to create a self-fulfilling vision of that idea, from what I have been told by the med students at interviews. If you go in thinking it will be a grind, it will certainly be a grind. The city of Lynchburg itself is fine, and this discussion was not about the city nor its other colleges, but rather LUCOM, which has a value system that is very different from the community at large and this nation as a whole. On the topic of professionalism, to simply ignore the value system of the school you are attending and disregard its consequences is perhaps one of the most unprofessional things one could do. You are essentially saying that the core beliefs of the institution both don't apply to and will not be enforced upon you, that you are "above the law," so to speak, as long as you keep your head low and don't attract attention. Truly, a model of integrity we should all seek to emulate. There might be a future for you in politics, kid.

In any case, good luck to you all. I really do wish you the best in your endeavors.
 
Lost Vagus said:
No alcohol and no sex...... I don't even know what to say about this. Stressed out sober med students with blue balls and the inability to blow off steam or watch porn.. This sounds worse than hell. You couldn't pay me to go to this school. But hey, to each his own. Hopefully it works out for some of you guys. Good luck
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Your not allowed to even view?
 
Got an interview invite! so stoked right now!!

Any recommendations for hotels and car rentals???
 
touchpause13 said:
I think this is bull.
I would not be able to adhere to the honor code. I do not fit their mission. Therefore I did not apply. Make sense?
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touchpause13 said:
What happens with LUCOM will affect the entire DO profession IMO.
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does anyone find this amusing? touchpause13 didn't apply here but seems to be the most passionate in this thread. me thinks touchpause13 is overly concerned about lucom...touchpause13 cares enough about lucom to comment here. maybe this individual feels threatened by the existence of this school?
 
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