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Animal Midwife said:
As a player, it's frowned upon because it's OGI (unless you already innately have private communication already in-game). Mods are on a different level.
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Talked about this in Sub Chat and seems it might be OK to have an exception purely for D1 before yeet for players who haven't checked in at all in case they forgot about game that in that case doesn't violate spirit of game. Agree it would be best to get mod blessing first.
 
holdthemayo said:
AM feels off to me. Generating less content. Stayed on a salt vote longer than usual, then jumped on the Strog vote without stating much to support it.

I quoted her to see what she learned. It might change my mind.
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I agree, and since I am now mayo I totally trust him for once.
 
Animal Midwife said:
You did not. You gave one read (on me) which is incredibly opportunistic and wolfy in absence of an active solving process. I ask again for reads on those mere four people.
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I have perspective to say mayo was being....sigh, mayo. His style often feels evasive even when that isn't a wolfy intent.

Your reaction to his sus on you when good points were made on you is interesting though.
 
Animal Midwife said:
But like... why are you throwing up multiple roadblocks so D1 has less information? Is there some reason village being in the dark benefits you?
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Find it really weird because it seems like AM is commonly the one disagreeing with me about mayo and going on about him being like best player of the year, so to see her turn on him for what I've basically complained has been his sketchy yet NAI meta the entire time, feels opportunistic af.
 
Crayola227 said:
Find it really weird because it seems like AM is commonly the one disagreeing with me about mayo and going on about him being like best player of the year, so to see her turn on him for what I've basically complained has been his sketchy yet NAI meta the entire time, feels opportunistic af.
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Literally when have I ever said this? I've warned him multiple times that he's entering policy yeet city.
 
mkg323 said:
I mean like in general, anyone on this thread that isnt a high poster like Dubz or AM. by the time Strog's vote started to pick up, several people hadnt even really checked in, people like April or Bob or me only had a couple posts, heck you only got here like a couple minutes before that happened. I have yet to see a valid reason for a Strog vote. if he was picked as bc he was a low poster it doesnt make sense, and it doesnt make sense if his posts pinged people because is 3 posts were jokes or not related to the game.
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Not to defend the Strog vote, and not sure what other people thought, think it's weird no one pointed out that they might expect more from Strog given his general SDN posting habits and after a hiatus would hope to see some enthusiasm translate to some participation. So that context makes it a little concerning for wolfiness
 
Animal Midwife said:
Literally when have I ever said this? I've warned him multiple times that he's entering policy yeet city.
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I've been known to remember metas wrong. I thought that was your mayo stance. Sometimes I confuse you and Dubz' meta feelings on players because in my mind you guys frequently seem to operate as a sort of unit almost, game to game and between games. I'll have to review past convos and the awards thread go double check you're not psyching me out. I seriously thought I was the only player found his style exasperating for its ambiguity in affiliation.
 
Animal Midwife said:
Like. I. Said. Earlier.

I. Made. The. Mistake. Of. Answering. You. Before. You. Answered. Me.

And. Now. You're. Wolf. Siding. Or. Are. Just. A. Wolf. Instead. Of. Answering. When. I. Gave. You. The. Benefit. Of. The. Doubt.
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Seems kinda weird for a villager to be so upset they "gave something up" by answering a question when someone else was evasive. I see a wolf being more resentful of that and using it to shade someone.

Not that sussing someone for being evasive is not villagey, just, what does it have to do with/matter with you directly answering a question? Why this strange tit for tat?

Although having said that, perhaps a village AM does approach her village interrogations as some kind of "I'll only give you a data point if you give me one," rather than just be forthcoming and note where others aren't without having one contingent on the other.
 
BobLoblaw78 said:
Vet Med head, strog, mkg. Any one else not posting? I

They were protecting strog, not much content and I wanted to vote one of the lower contributers to spike participation. No better place to land outside of that. Don't feel like alley, samac are good place to start. Samac has seemed good thought process in past and alley always seems to be misconstrued early
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Unfinished sentences always seem less spontaneous response always pings me
 
Animal Midwife said:
You're lucky I have a lot of patience and care about the game enough to keep policy yeeting as a last resort.
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Lol just a touch of braggadocio, nothing in AI levels here yet.

OTOH I am a fan of policy yeets they do a lot for my improving my patience. But it's best done with... patience. I prefer to leave policy yeets to later in game.
 
samac said:
Part of me is interested in the people who avoided the wagons completely if they’re V/V. That was my favorite thing to do as a wolf
I don’t know what to make of the last minute Lawpy wagon though.
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I would like this point, except it does too much to shade mostly players I know are village, like myself and Zenge.
 
Viscernable said:
Can you elaborate on that? I don’t remember it. Like she said something about how she also wasn’t contributing much/was doing something else sus in response to someone saying such about a packmate? Was the packmate under a lot of vote pressure and she was trying to draw it off?
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Starting to feel like Vis is mostly defending other players and that makes me uncomfortable given how well I thought she had a villagey tone in that one game she wolfed
 
samac said:
I love drunken WW and I took it away from her. I am mad at myself for that. She probably could have got me off her vote if she told me that was her plan for tomorrow.
Just to be clear reacting to night results is NAI for me. I get pretty excited/sad.
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If you were wolfing with Lawpy you might genuinely feel bad about oustinf alley not that I would expect that to stop you. In fact if you are you likely wouldn't have been able to make the friendly move.
 
supershorty said:
Night 1

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As the first rays of sunlight broke over the mountains and the sounds of daytime started to take over, the animals stirred. For some, they were waking, hoping to see all of their numbers as they had before. Others were preparing to sleep after looking out during the night. The tension was particularly high after voting off one of their own the day before.

One face was missing from the daily morning meeting, and the group went looking for them to see if they’d slept in or if something more sinister had happened. At their home tree, the animals found signs of a scuffle, and their friend was nowhere to be seen. They checked her sunbathing spot as well, but there was no sign of her or evidence that she’d been there that morning. She was known for her dance moves as she went from one place to another, always entertaining to hang out with, and her loss was another sobering reminder that there were animals in their midst who could not be trusted.

Vanished is @Aprilthearab, Verreaux’s sifaka and a vanillager



14 players remain.
1. @Animal Midwife
2. @Stroganoff
4. @Lawpy
5. @samac
6. @Viscernable
7. @WildZoo
8. @PippyPony
9. @differentiating
10. @BobLoblaw78
12. @Zenge142
13. @mkg323
14. @vetmedhead
15. @holdthemayo
16. @genny

Set adrift/Disappeared:
3. @alleycat03, ring-tailed vontsira, vanillager
11. @Aprilthearab, Verreaux’s sifaka, vanillager

It is now Day 2. Vote/Yeet closes at 9pm EDT, 6/6/2021 (~22 hours).​
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We need April's reads, stat. I thought she was nominated for having great early reads and this was why she often killed early. It seems weird she was selected for night kill.otherwise.given how quiet she was, and weird the pack would off her early yet again unless they had no idea about this issue.

Now, I'm not the biggest fan of NKA, but when someone flips village for any reason I like to look at their reads again because if nothing else I know they're telling the truth and working with villagers (even dead ones).is how we win.
 
Stroganoff said:
SWEET MOTHER OF GOD WHAT

unyeet MKG

yeet (lovingly) alley strictly for self-preservation

wow, y'all. my first game since 2018 or 2019 smh.
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The preemptive apology here for self prez when you don't know alleys affiliation....unless you knew she would flip village....? Sus
 
Zenge142 said:
I did read them. I’m not ignoring context. These three quotes of back and forth are the issue at hand. You claim AMs wolf meta is to bus a pack mate D1, she calls that out as being untrue and instead of responding to that allegation of lying, you deflect by pushing her about still being on her salt vote.

Good, so we’re on the same page about this then.
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Good point and major sus points to Pip for it and your death
 
Zenge142 said:
In seriousness though, it’s a very viable wolf strategy.
Let’s assume for the sake of argument you’re a wolf and AM and I are village. AM is salt voting me. You call it out as w/w. This puts me into the position of feeling like I need to defend myself to you.

It’s a viable wolf pocketing strategy.
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No, that's not what pocketing means. That's just putting a villager on the defensive. Not typically a pocketing strategy even if they village read you for it, unless for some reason they find it endearing or something.

Pocketing is usually taken to mean manipulating someone, usually emotionally, in a way where they feel better about you, often by PM but we've sorta expanded its meaning. Buddying is kind of similar, in that buddying is usually a strategy for pocketing but doesn't describe all of various strategies to pocket.
 
Ahhhhhhh what would WW be without cray calling me wolfy when I’m village.
I think if people just go with the opposite of what you think I am they’re likely to get it right. The time I remember you calling me out the least? Ggoats.
Crayola227 said:
Also why is samac not whining about lack of PMs? Because she's got a pack chat? Or did I miss a PM mechanism in this game (besides secret villager abilities I'm not fishing for)
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I think I’ve already clearly pointed out I thought everyone was vanilla and didn’t understand mountain vs basic. No point in whining about not having a PM mechanic when I thought there were literally no PRs in the game.
 
Okay. Let’s see if starting a work week can make everyone less busy and posting more. (Or at least post more bc they are wanting toescape from work).
 
samac said:
Ahhhhhhh what would WW be without cray calling me wolfy when I’m village.
I think if people just go with the opposite of what you think I am they’re likely to get it right. The time I remember you calling me out the least? Ggoats.

I think I’ve already clearly pointed out I thought everyone was vanilla and didn’t understand mountain vs basic. No point in whining about not having a PM mechanic when I thought there were literally no PRs in the game.
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No, I sussed the hell out of you in goats but besides not being very familar with you as a player I brought you up several times to which people brought up VCA. Frequently that's how I miss wolves which is why I've gone back to mostly ignoring it again.
 
Animal Midwife said:
What thoughts? All I was able to gather is that alley was village (no duh), there was wagon movements (uh-huh), and maybe they (who's they?) were trying to save someone else on the board (who is saved?). Did you gather anything that actually gives direction and isn't ambiguous?
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His contributions were pretty decent from where I'm sitting, and unlike Dubz when you wolf I don't see you trying to woo your detractors the same way. You decide instead to just antagonize them and attempt to make them look bad. Which makes sense, best defense is offense and if you can't beat em by making them join you, just get them yeeted or NK. Feels like every time I've gone up against a wolfy you.
 
samac said:
So I get that the pivoting was weird on Strog. I also don’t know if she would do that as a wolf. I keep thinking how it would be a bad wolfy idea, but then I remember I did the same thing in ggoats with sunny.
You’re overall hitting my as village but I do what to ask if I’m the weaker read why vote me initially?


You’re wrong tho. I told you I didn’t summon you here to misyeet me.


Also I excepted this to grow more since I last checked in but no one has posted in over a hour? Wtf?
I know the wolves are happy with me on the chopping block but damn you can at least say something.
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I'm feeling a certain emotional manipulation from Samac I don't like. She's often emotional, but this is like thr 3rd time she's said she hoped she didn't summon genny to misyeet her. The fixation and sense of betrayal and expectation for how much encouraging someone's participation should personally benefit you is just plain too much and bizarrem
 
samac said:
I’m very interested in you, Bob, genny, and mayo as the people who avoided wagons completely. That was my favorite move as a wolf and I’m wondering if one of you is doing the same.
mayo hasn’t hit me as wolfy.
I like bob’s effort but he seems pretty serious this game. This seems like a change in play style from his previous games.
Genny is gonna tunnel me, and quite frankly she hasn’t done anything overtly wolfy or village yet IMO.
Your analysis feels village but at the same time welcome to the successful wolf club, I didn’t watch the last game closely so I don’t know all the deets on how you acted as a wolf.

that being said I know all 3-4 wolves wouldn’t avoid the wagons. A strog flip would tell me a lot about the people on that vote, but he hasn’t done anything inherently wolfy or helpful. Just seems overall inactive.

I get your points on pippy, and I would be interested in that flip for more info on you. I know you’ve been pretty great at reading people previously, and you’re wrong about me. If you’re wrong about pippy too maybe you are actually wolfing.
Yeet pippy
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Mayo was also off wagon. Also feel like this post is dripping with pocketing attempts. Your interaction with Zenge is weird.
 
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Viscernable said:
It didn’t since my interest in pippy and april’s conversation was just on the april side at the time; I wasn’t looking at pippy. Don’t remember any interaction between strog and april or anything else that would make april’s flip informative about him.
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Feels hedgy
 
Crayola227 said:
We need April's reads, stat. I thought she was nominated for having great early reads and this was why she often killed early. It seems weird she was selected for night kill.otherwise.given how quiet she was, and weird the pack would off her early yet again unless they had no idea about this issue.

Now, I'm not the biggest fan of NKA, but when someone flips village for any reason I like to look at their reads again because if nothing else I know they're telling the truth and working with villagers (even dead ones).is how we win.
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April was pretty busy so she hadn't made a full reads list yet, and she had voted for alley
 
Animal Midwife said:
Neutrals when she was already dead. By the time you first posted, she was already dead.

I just don't understand why you removed alley from the second list, when I asked for organization, but not April (and also didn't put her in village with Zenge).

Is there a reason mkg isn't in your wolf leans?
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What is a policy yeet?

After sleeping on last night, I still don't get your approach of fixation on inconsequential details that can't unravel anything. Then I realize it might be b/c who was in my wolf leans. I feel like you were trying to discredit me b/c of where I had you without taking it head on. You attack the mechanics of me organizing my list and not really anything about my reads.

PS- I intentionally didn't want my wolf leans out b/c I haven't done well when posting them and seem to be NK'd as soon as I do. And I intentionally stray away from directly accusing OG's (who I have several) b/c I worry they will quickly misyeet or NK easily with their experience.

You have been more volatile this game. Instead of you remaining calm, especially early on, and making the person you are talking to look bad/emotional- you have been looking bad/emotional.
 
WildZoo said:
April was pretty busy so she hadn't made a full reads list yet, and she had voted for alley
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Otherwise she mentioned that my posts were similar to last game (before I was converted) and that she didn't like the strog vote
 
Crayola227 said:
So much ping from this post
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I know but it's true. I don't know how else to tell people to stop piling onto my votes d1. Like I'm trying, but that's multiple recent games now where d1 has ended on a sudden pile onto the person I'm voting for, and they've been village. I can't just not vote but my d1 feels are often garbage.

So like...stop that.
 
WildZoo said:
I know but it's true. I don't know how else to tell people to stop piling onto my votes d1. Like I'm trying, but that's multiple recent games now where d1 has ended on a sudden pile onto the person I'm voting for, and they've been village. I can't just not vote but my d1 feels are often garbage.

So like...stop that.
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Lol just pretty sure you said exactly this last game... but to be fair wasn't sure if you were converted yet or not
 
Crayola227 said:
I'm feeling a certain emotional manipulation from Samac I don't like. She's often emotional, but this is like thr 3rd time she's said she hoped she didn't summon genny to misyeet her. The fixation and sense of betrayal and expectation for how much encouraging someone's participation should personally benefit you is just plain too much and bizarrem
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What?
did those comments about summoning her not read as jokes? Cause I definitely meant them as such.
 
Crayola227 said:
Mayo was also off wagon. Also feel like this post is dripping with pocketing attempts. Your interaction with Zenge is weird.
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If you later read I think I made a comment on all those who were off wagons and pointed out I’m reading mayo as village.
I get it cray, you don’t like my play but you’re barking up the wrong tree. Go catch a wolf.
 
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