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samac said:
Santy im going to dance around for 2 weeks when I’m right and you’re wrong.

Just so we’re clear I’ve also tried to do what shelter is doing. Claimed a vig shot on genny and then 2 other vigs popped up and well **** me I guess.

Why do you think shelter didn’t put herself when Jay claimed the kill N1?
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I dont care if you also tried t do it. Its still not optimal play Unless Villa is in absolute **** and they need the extra help so game keeps going.
Being villa"s bitch is reliant on villa making a mistake and gives them too much power /shrug.

Literally if shelter is SK this is a prime example on why its bad play. We have lot of room of PoE to yeet them super comfier, and lot of roles to have them on a leash
 
Santygrass said:
I dont care if you also tried t do it. Its still not optimal play Unless Villa is in absolute **** and they need the extra help so game keeps going.
Being villa"s bitch is reliant on villa making a mistake and gives them too much power /shrug.

Literally if shelter is SK this is a prime example on why its bad play. We have lot of room of PoE to yeet them super comfier, and lot of roles to have them on a leash
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Why do you assume shelter is playing to your definition of optimal?
 
Like ffs it was super clear that shelter didnt read it, and when it was clear they openly stated it real quick samac your arguments feel like stretching ngl
 
samac said:
I think dya is more likely than Jay but their roles being mirrors make me feel better about the 2 of them tbh
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I dont think they are mirrors.

Dya is a 2 action Joat. JJJ has not fully claimed
 
Santygrass said:
Like ffs it was super clear that shelter didnt read it, and when it was clear they openly stated it real quick samac your arguments feel like stretching ngl
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Santy. I’m trying to get you on the right vote to end this god damn game but you’re throwing so hard you can’t see the forest for the damn tree.
I’m not stretching anything. Jay can see where I’m coming from. Dina and dubz can too I think. You’re just being willfully blind
 
samac said:
Why do you assume shelter is playing to your definition of optimal?
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It isnt a golden rule. But you usually assume scum is trying to play for their own benefit.

If they play missplaying good, that actually gives you more edge / yeets to catch them later so I dont mind
 
samac said:
Santy im going to dance around for 2 weeks when I’m right and you’re wrong.

Just so we’re clear I’ve also tried to do what shelter is doing. Claimed a vig shot on genny and then 2 other vigs popped up and well **** me I guess.

Why do you think shelter didn’t put herself when Jay claimed the kill N1?
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I hadn't realized he claimed it at the time.
 
Santygrass said:
It isnt a golden rule. But you usually assume scum is trying to play for their own benefit.

If they play missplaying good, that actually gives you more edge / yeets to catch them later so I dont mind
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It’s YOUR definition of optimal. Mine is obviously different.
 
samac said:
Santy. I’m trying to get you on the right vote to end this god damn game but you’re throwing so hard you can’t see the forest for the damn tree.
I’m not stretching anything. Jay can see where I’m coming from. Dina and dubz can too I think. You’re just being willfully blind
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Yes you are. You are making me a question on why tbey didnt claim it before when it was suoer clear at the time they claimed it, they had missed it lol. Happened a but to dy as well. Idk what to tell you samac but I dont see that as a valid reason to scum read them at all
 
Santygrass said:
Yes you are. You are making me a question on why tbey didnt claim it before when it was suoer clear at the time they claimed it, they had missed it lol. Happened a but to dy as well. Idk what to tell you samac but I dont see that as a valid reason to scum read them at all
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Okay
You’re blinded. You’ve been blinded by shelter for a long time.
You are absolutely 100% blinded by not liking Clem’s play and I think you’re absolutely wrong.

If anyone else can mechanically see any point I’m making let’s please yeet her to put this to bed. If I’m wrong yeet me tomorrow I don’t care but I can’t continue to go in these circles for multiple days that I know if she lives and shoots who santy wants her to shoot we’re going to continue to do this dance.
And I can’t continue to do this dance.
 
Santy is a normative modeler of decision making. He was most renowned in the early 1970s or so when economists and cognitive psychologists alike believed the most appropriate method for predicting behavior was based on what humans ought to do.

However, Santy's research was largely supplanted by that of Daniel Kahneman and Amos Tversky in the late '70s and '80s when they demonstrated that normative decision making is far less prevalent in decision making (particularly in scenarios relating to risky decision making) than previously believed. They produced prospect theory, which accounted better for the subjective character of utility in decisions. Kahneman eventually won the Nobel Prize in economics for this work despite not even being an economist.

Ignore this post. While my joke is rooted in actual research, it is still a joke. 😛
 
Santygrass said:
And this game should prove why it isnt good (?)
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No. I’m giving you an example of someone trying the same thing. I got ****ed over by other vigs existing. I was okay until then.
Shorty crushed it with a similar strategy. It can be good play.
 
Im not saying to keep shelter alive ad infinitum .

I literally said Clem > Shelter shoots someone in PoE > Game keeps going we yeet shelter

Idk not that hard or eternal.
 
Yes. The surviving theory that makes Clem a valid elimination is that of an arsonist (sometimes called a demo man).

The sandwiches might blow up.
 
Santygrass said:
Im not saying to keep shelter alive ad infinitum .

I literally said Clem > Shelter shoots someone in PoE > Game keeps going we yeet shelter

Idk not that hard or eternal.
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I don’t want an extra ****ing cycle of this
 
JaggedJimmyJay said:
Yes. The surviving theory that makes Clem a valid elimination is that of an arsonist (sometimes called a demo man).

The sandwiches might blow up.
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tbis is scarier to me than shelter who has been playing pro-villa all game
 
JaggedJimmyJay said:
Yes. The surviving theory that makes Clem a valid elimination is that of an arsonist (sometimes called a demo man).

The sandwiches might blow up.
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I don’t think this makes much since, marmot died 2 cycles later when you shot. i assume you got confirmation of the shot?
 
samac said:
I don’t think this makes much since, marmot died 2 cycles later when you shot. i assume you got confirmation of the shot?
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I did. If Clem is a demo man, he decides when to trigger the detonator -- they all blow up together.
 
samac said:
I don’t think this makes much since, marmot died 2 cycles later when you shot. i assume you got confirmation of the shot?
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Arsonist is a one and done bang. It's like SK but without any buildup.
 
JaggedJimmyJay said:
Yes. The surviving theory that makes Clem a valid elimination is that of an arsonist (sometimes called a demo man).

The sandwiches might blow up.
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Any exclusive wincon might f*** us up. Clem has been being sketchy and has the PM thing that does not match the 'I just have to give 3 sandwiches' while also already having 2 survivor neutrals.

If you love mech I think there are arguments with weight in why clem is a good yeet /shrug
 
Santygrass said:
Any exclusive wincon might f*** us up. Clem has been being sketchy and has the PM thing that does not match the 'I just have to give 3 sandwiches' while also already having 2 survivor neutrals.

If you love mech I think there are arguments with weight in why clem is a good yeet /shrug
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I think the weight is higher mechanically for shelter by 10 fold
 
Santygrass said:
Any exclusive wincon might f*** us up. Clem has been being sketchy and has the PM thing that does not match the 'I just have to give 3 sandwiches' while also already having 2 survivor neutrals.

If you love mech I think there are arguments with weight in why clem is a good yeet /shrug
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I hate mech. My favorite setup is mountainous.

Hi shorty.
 
dyachei said:
tbis is scarier to me than shelter who has been playing pro-villa all game
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Not to samac apparently and Im the only one blinded!!

She is also not tunneled at all and willing to consider other points of view!!!

And Im not being ironic here at all!!!

(Sorry I may being too snarky here. Research shows that it is likely that I can be having skill issue. But I'm willing to be wrong and having you dance around , rather than go along and yeet Villa shelter while scum Clem was the answe all along. That would hurt me deeply)
 
If he is an arsonist then the only person with a sandwich is shelter so it wouldn’t matter if shelter went first
 
samac said:
If he is an arsonist then the only person with a sandwich is shelter so it wouldn’t matter if shelter went first
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*Looks at the auto act on genny n4 that could possibly give her an insta win*
 
samac said:
Ah yes I’m sure Clem has an auto win on exactly n4 too. That makes sense.
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Im saying, if someone is being scummy you dont understimate them without having proper info on their role
 
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