Program Specific Questions

[JRoc_123]

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Not having Pitt at the top of that list is just insane. Especially if you want to do GI. And I don't know anything about GI in general at OSU but they're one of the top 2 or 3 places in the country for GI oncology.

Thanks. Yeah that's what I was leaning towards. And I'm interested in dysmotiliy and IBD but onc could definitely make it on the list.

 

[jdh71]

So i'm trying to rank my programs as I go through them-- My top 5 are

Rush
UPMC
UH (CWRU)
tOSU
Loyola

I think that's the general order... but does anybody have any opinions on Rush's IM residency vs UPMC? Especially if I wanna do GI? As far as resident happiness and general program scholarship? I got a pretty good vibe from both places, although the residents at rush seem like they work VERY hard.

I would also appreciate input on the other 3 programs if you've got them!

Agree. Everything else being equal (if true and I'm assuming so since you said so), Pitt needs to be at the top of that list.

 

[jdh71]

Thanks. Yeah that's what I was leaning towards. And I'm interested in dysmotiliy and IBD but onc could definitely make it on the list.

You poor bastard. But thank God because that stuff is "gods work". A good ibd or gut motility doc is worth his weight in gold, literally. I'm not evening joking and I joke a lot.

 

[JRoc_123]

You poor bastard. But thank God because that stuff is "gods works". A good ibd or gut motility doc is worth his weight in gold, literally. I'm not evening joking and I joke a lot.

Yeah, I rotated IBD at pitt. That stuff sucks hard

 

[OberynMartell]

I have a question regarding Utah and Iowa. I have heard residents at both programs mention how hard they work, and this was a recurring theme throughout the interview day. I was wondering if anyone with knowledge of either program could comment on whether or not this was due to their schedules, or if residents were hinting that they were overworked or unsupported. I had a great time at both programs and was very impressed, but this was something I wanted to clear up as I make my rank list.

Also, if anyone could comment on the University of Florida Gainesville program, that would be great. The people seemed friendly, the hospitals were awesome, and I really liked the program director and chairman. However, I'm from the midwest and don't know anyone from my school or area who has attended, so any input from people regarding the culture of the program, friendliness, how happy residents are, etc. would be great. There isn't a lot of word-of-mouth about UF where I'm from.

Thanks to everyone who contributes to these threads, they've been a big help throughout the year.

 

[throwaway19891234]

I have a question regarding Utah and Iowa. I have heard residents at both programs mention how hard they work, and this was a recurring theme throughout the interview day. I was wondering if anyone with knowledge of either program could comment on whether or not this was due to their schedules, or if residents were hinting that they were overworked or unsupported. I had a great time at both programs and was very impressed, but this was something I wanted to clear up as I make my rank list.

Also, if anyone could comment on the University of Florida Gainesville program, that would be great. The people seemed friendly, the hospitals were awesome, and I really liked the program director and chairman. However, I'm from the midwest and don't know anyone from my school or area who has attended, so any input from people regarding the culture of the program, friendliness, how happy residents are, etc. would be great. There isn't a lot of word-of-mouth about UF where I'm from.

Thanks to everyone who contributes to these threads, they've been a big help throughout the year.

during my interview day at iowa i got the opposite impression. it seemed like at the university hospital the residents carry like 4-5 patients on average

 

[Vairy nicee]

I have a question regarding Utah and Iowa. I have heard residents at both programs mention how hard they work, and this was a recurring theme throughout the interview day. I was wondering if anyone with knowledge of either program could comment on whether or not this was due to their schedules, or if residents were hinting that they were overworked or unsupported. I had a great time at both programs and was very impressed, but this was something I wanted to clear up as I make my rank list.

Also, if anyone could comment on the University of Florida Gainesville program, that would be great. The people seemed friendly, the hospitals were awesome, and I really liked the program director and chairman. However, I'm from the midwest and don't know anyone from my school or area who has attended, so any input from people regarding the culture of the program, friendliness, how happy residents are, etc. would be great. There isn't a lot of word-of-mouth about UF where I'm from.

Thanks to everyone who contributes to these threads, they've been a big help throughout the year.

Actually, Iowa seemed like a pretty busy program during my interview day. Some of the interns at the dinner said they had abt 6 to 7 ptnts during their ward months. I guess I wasn't too surprised since I think its the only academic and tertiary care center in the state. Great program

 

[Beacopp665]

Actually, Iowa seemed like a pretty busy program during my interview day. Some of the interns at the dinner said they had abt 6 to 7 ptnts during their ward months. I guess I wasn't too surprised since I think its the only academic and tertiary care center in the state. Great program

I guess it's a perspective thing. The fact that this was about the busiest the interns got, to me, meant that the program was a little on the more "Cush" side compared to others I've seen with caps at 10 and hit them often

 

[gutonc]

Actually, Iowa seemed like a pretty busy program during my interview day. Some of the interns at the dinner said they had abt 6 to 7 ptnts during their ward months. I guess I wasn't too surprised since I think its the only academic and tertiary care center in the state. Great program

6-7 patients is kind of on the low end for most programs. I would have killed for that as a resident.

 

[Bah]

Can anyone tell me more about Loma Linda's IM program? Thanks!

 

[UCSDIM]

I have a question regarding Utah and Iowa. I have heard residents at both programs mention how hard they work, and this was a recurring theme throughout the interview day. I was wondering if anyone with knowledge of either program could comment on whether or not this was due to their schedules, or if residents were hinting that they were overworked or unsupported. I had a great time at both programs and was very impressed, but this was something I wanted to clear up as I make my rank list.

Also, if anyone could comment on the University of Florida Gainesville program, that would be great. The people seemed friendly, the hospitals were awesome, and I really liked the program director and chairman. However, I'm from the midwest and don't know anyone from my school or area who has attended, so any input from people regarding the culture of the program, friendliness, how happy residents are, etc. would be great. There isn't a lot of word-of-mouth about UF where I'm from.

Thanks to everyone who contributes to these threads, they've been a big help throughout the year.

I truly believe that EVERY half-way decent training program will make their residents work "hard". If they aren't, then I think there's something wrong. I get that there's a fine balance between working and learning, but with the ACGME regulations I feel that all programs have leveled out as far as work-load.

It really comes down to the culture of the program.

 

[throwaway19891234]

why is BIDMC considered not as prestigious as MGH/brigham and women's? it sounds like 20-25 years ago it was considered on par or even a tier above.

 

[redpanda]

why is BIDMC considered not as prestigious as MGH/brigham and women's? it sounds like 20-25 years ago it was considered on par or even a tier above.

I have no idea, but it's not like one is going to be trained badly or lack job opportunities on finishing at any of these programs. I did get distinctly different impressions about the culture of the programs on interview day though.

 

[jdh71]

I have a question regarding Utah and Iowa. I have heard residents at both programs mention how hard they work, and this was a recurring theme throughout the interview day. I was wondering if anyone with knowledge of either program could comment on whether or not this was due to their schedules, or if residents were hinting that they were overworked or unsupported. I had a great time at both programs and was very impressed, but this was something I wanted to clear up as I make my rank list.

Also, if anyone could comment on the University of Florida Gainesville program, that would be great. The people seemed friendly, the hospitals were awesome, and I really liked the program director and chairman. However, I'm from the midwest and don't know anyone from my school or area who has attended, so any input from people regarding the culture of the program, friendliness, how happy residents are, etc. would be great. There isn't a lot of word-of-mouth about UF where I'm from.

Thanks to everyone who contributes to these threads, they've been a big help throughout the year.

I think any state university program you are going to be really busy in IM - just no way around it. With that said, there has been ZERO gossip about malignancy from Utah or Iowa that I can remember.

UF is supposed to be good and well respected generally.

 

[jdh71]

Can anyone tell me more about Loma Linda's IM program? Thanks!

It's been awhile, but it's a busy University program. You get VA experience. I'm not sure how much they do out at Riverside Country now that that UCR has it's own program. My thoughts were solid but not glamorous. They like to take their own for the most part into their fellowships, IIRC, and they have them all, though GI, Cards, and Pulm are probably more "stand-out" than the rest, but still not "big name". I think the location actually isn't that bad for the "Inland Empire" - Redlands close by is nice and I think a quaint little spot. Everything else you might want to do in SoCal is about an hours worth of freeway time (more if it's a busy time) to everything else.

You could definitely do worse. I'd label them solid middle tier, and I actually liked them and ranked them in the high middle. They might have been like 5 on my list and I ranked 12.

 

[meliora27]

Don't know much about the Philly programs. Upcoming interviews at Drexel and Jefferson. Can anyone provide any insight into these programs. Thinking GI at this point. Thanks

 

[dyeguy21]

Don't know much about the Philly programs. Upcoming interviews at Drexel and Jefferson. Can anyone provide any insight into these programs. Thinking GI at this point. Thanks

So in the Philly landscape there are a lot of players. UPenn, Jeff, Drexel, Lankenau, Virtua, Crozer, Bryn Mawr, Einstein, Temple, and even Christiana isn't out of play. So knowing that its mostly UPenn v. Jeff in the city proper, both big teaching institutes, both with world class attendings.

So pros of Jeff:
+ Faculty, I'd say 7/8ths of the medical attendings love to teach. Like will not shut up levels of teaching.
+ Residents, lots of them, and they all hang out together....all the time. It's not an act they put on during interview day. They really are that tight knit.
+ Nursing, MAGNET hospital and for 4/5ths of the nurses it shows. They know a lot about patients, are helpful in correcting mistakes, and never had an order/lab draw issue (overall VERY LOW levels of scutwork, labs are drawn without hesitation and on time, you have to get things that are like RIGHT NOW urgent) There is a PICC team on site and they are pretty darn quick about getting things done in a timely fashion.
+ Diversity of patients- It's in center city philly so you get the gamut. We have a lot of refugees that come in, private payers, and the elderly...so you'll see it all.
+ For GI, we do Liver transplant and have Colorectal surgery as well, you have a hepatology service as one of your general months and you will be able to work up liver failure like nobody's business. You also get to see UC/Chron's treatments and different surgical treatments for common ailments. There is a large endo-suite as well.
+ Location. If you like the big city life, it's right next to about 10 bars (all of which have happy hours adjusted for medical people), you have all major sports, a good public transport system, fun free city events, and amazing restaurants (When you're there please try to get at LEAST some Federal Doughnuts...also avoid Geno's for cheese-steaks, that's there for tourists and it tastes like crap)
+ High board pass rate and fellowship match rate is pretty damn high with both in house and east coast matches. Jeff is a big name in the East and opens a lot of doors.
+ Food provided at noon-conference. Your "Jeff" card money works at a lot of the nearby restaurants (including an Au Bon Pain connected to the hospital and a Starbucks about 100-150 feet from the hospital)

Neutral:
* They run short/long call for admitting (so black, one, one, and gold weekends) Services are usually pretty busy. They run a 1 upper, 1 intern, 1 sub-i (if applicable), 2 med student team, so you are capped at 14 which isn't too bad.
* Decent cafeteria with a wide variety of options, including a power hour (coffee for $0.50), however, its not open 24/7 and nearby restaurants also close around 11pm/midnight so overnight food can be rough.

Cons:
- Still using paper charts. There is an online "chart," but its proprietary and all you can do is order things and get results (consults are transcribed into it, but usually a while after the note appears in the chart). Nurses really try to keep the charts near the desk, but sometimes they go missing, or someone else is using them, or you have to go back to the floor to put a note in the chart...can put a real crimp on your day. Also reading handwriting can be a pain, requiring extra phone calls. There is a separate outpatient EMR (allscripts) which can sometime get annoying alt+tabbing between all the different systems when they get admitted. (They're getting EPIC supposedly late 2016/early 2017, doesn't help us that much)
- 4% in-city tax (live or work in the city you automatically pay 4% to the city ON TOP of state and federal taxes) which at their rate comes out to about $2000/year going to a tax (this would also apply at Drexel)
- Housing costs, its philly so yea...anything near center city is usually pretty expensive if you want space. That being said they all do it already so there are options.

That's all I have for Jeff, don't know much about Drexel

 

[Bah]

It's been awhile, but it's a busy University program. You get VA experience. I'm not sure how much they do out at Riverside Country now that that UCR has it's own program. My thoughts were solid but not glamorous. They like to take their own for the most part into their fellowships, IIRC, and they have them all, though GI, Cards, and Pulm are probably more "stand-out" than the rest, but still not "big name". I think the location actually isn't that bad for the "Inland Empire" - Redlands close by is nice and I think a quaint little spot. Everything else you might want to do in SoCal is about an hours worth of freeway time (more if it's a busy time) to everything else.

You could definitely do worse. I'd label them solid middle tier, and I actually liked them and ranked them in the high middle. They might have been like 5 on my list and I ranked 12.

Thank you!!

 

[Lifelong Student]

Medical College of Wisconsin doesn't get much talk around here. Generally considered "mid-tier". Can anyone shed some insight who may know more about the program? In terms of other Midwest mid-tiers like rush/loyola/uic how does it stack up?

Very clinically oriented historically (recent trend towards more academic people in IM), and since it's not hooked up to a university it doesn't usually get listed in those USNWR lists of research funding. Medium size program with (anectdotally, just judging from people I've talked to) happy residents and a popular program director. Those who want to do fellowship have little or no trouble doing so, albeit mostly in mid-tier midwestern places. Particular strengths in Hem/Onc and Allergy/Immunology. Milwaukee is a good place to live, but the hospitals themsleves are located towards the suburbs.

Overall, I'd consider it a solid lower-mid-tier academic program of roughly equal quality to the Chicago places you list. Maybe a little below UIC? Maybe a little above Loyola or Rush? Depends on what you want to do, obviously.

 

[fantasty]

Actually, Iowa seemed like a pretty busy program during my interview day. Some of the interns at the dinner said they had abt 6 to 7 ptnts during their ward months. I guess I wasn't too surprised since I think its the only academic and tertiary care center in the state. Great program

I guess it's a perspective thing. The fact that this was about the busiest the interns got, to me, meant that the program was a little on the more "Cush" side compared to others I've seen with caps at 10 and hit them often

I'm thinking that is pretty atypical. Honestly, might be that the interns you spoke with were on the lighter rotations? Maxing out at 5-6 doesn't sound right. Sure, on good months and less busy services, that seemed pretty close to average per intern, but certainly not the max. Cannot really comment on "relative cushness" due to limited exposure to other places.

But, echoing the strengths of the program at Iowa - gen med inpatient is a good mix of bread & butter (due to the VA) and zebras / tertiary level stuff (due to the large cachement area - like VN said - the referral base is huge and its one of the limited options for low-income Iowans.

 

[GoRavens234]

Could someone compare and contrast Boston University and Tufts for me?

Thank you

 

[sevenplus3]

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Also, if anyone could comment on the University of Florida Gainesville program, that would be great. The people seemed friendly, the hospitals were awesome, and I really liked the program director and chairman. However, I'm from the midwest and don't know anyone from my school or area who has attended, so any input from people regarding the culture of the program, friendliness, how happy residents are, etc. would be great. There isn't a lot of word-of-mouth about UF where I'm from.
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hey, UF M4 here. my read –
culture: work hard (as with anywhere intern year), but not crazy, and have a life outside the hospital. pgy3s I've met came off as competent and confident. "quality education in the company of friends" or something like that is what the PD dubbed it, and I'd agree.
friendliness: definitely. attendings I've worked with have been pretty collegial, and I've had some fantastic role models. residents seem to like/befriend/cover for each other.
happiness: sure, see above
gainesville: university town (~40k undergrads), great if you're into college football and/or raising a family. cost of living is cheap; I'd guess that most of my classmates pay on average ~500/month for rent.
if you have any specific questions, feel free to pm me.

 

[studbud]

why is BIDMC considered not as prestigious as MGH/brigham and women's? it sounds like 20-25 years ago it was considered on par or even a tier above.

It's because BIDMC is not part of Partners which is the greater umbrella of a ton of hospitals in and around Boston that is slowly taking over everything. So BI is considered the evil nonconforming stepchild. At least that's my impression.

 

[byurazorhog]

I'm curious what people's thoughts on ranking an IM program with only 1 university hospital vs. another comparable program with opportunities for rotating through multiple different types of hospitals are. These 2 programs are otherwise fairly similar in almost all other aspects.The program with just the one university hospital has super strong clinical training there whereas the other gives you exposure to VA, county and privately-insured patients as well. I am matching into a combined residency and I should say also that what gives me the hardest time deciding is the strength of the other residency program at these 2 places. Ughh, decision, decision.

 

[dyeguy21]

I'm curious what people's thoughts on ranking an IM program with only 1 university hospital vs. another comparable program with opportunities for rotating through multiple different types of hospitals are. These 2 programs are otherwise fairly similar in almost all other aspects.The program with just the one university hospital has super strong clinical training there whereas the other gives you exposure to VA, county and privately-insured patients as well. I am matching into a combined residency and I should say also that what gives me the hardest time deciding is the strength of the other residency program at these 2 places. Ughh, decision, decision.

It comes down to personal preference, honestly. If you like being in one spot and not having to deal with multiple EMR systems, teams, and a VA then the single is for you. If you prefer to have a "varied" experience (and patient population) and see what life in a VA is like then go for the multiple location program.

 

[gutonc]

I'm personally a fan of a varied, but not crazy training program. I think 2 locations is ideal, especially if one is a VA or County hospital. More than that and you start to lose the ability to work closely with the same faculty and run the risk of being a little disjointed.

My program had two sites and I loved that. Places with only one or 3+ training sites lost points in my rank list calculus.

YMMV of course.

 

[ROL2015]

Does anyone have personal experience with MUSC? Any thoughts about the program from interview? The residents didn't seem very excited about the program when I interviewed, they mostly talked about the location as the best thing.

 

[liluv3399]

Hi can anyone tell me about VCU program? I interviewed at mostly mid-tier programs like Temple, UIC, Wake Forest, Baylor etc..and I have no geographic preferences. I will have total of 12 places to rank by the end of Jan. and wasn't sure whether that would be enough to match. Just trying to limit interviews in January so wondered about VCU program in general and the location too. Thanks!

 

[ForeverIM]

Hello fellow SDNers,

I was wondering if you guys could help me out with your experience with a few programs. This isn't a "help me rank thread" I just would like to have all the information I could have before making a decision. I don't care much about prestige or geographical location.

1.Arrowhead Regional Medical Center, Colton, CA
- I know this has a bad reputation in the past of being scut heavy (as are most community hospitals) but I think that there is a new direction in the last few years that minimizes that. Established DO program with newer MD program. The location is pretty bad, but there are decent places to live around the area. They take 4 IM interns a year. It's a level 2 trauma center that is only lacking a CT surg. Nice Hospital.

2. Lehigh Valley, PA
- Gorgeous hospital, switching over to EMR. Has connected fellowships. Area is boring but not bad. Level 1 trauma center. Also community program. Dually accredited program.

3. Henry Ford, MI
- Hospital system is great with recognized name. Connected fellowships. Location is give or take. Strong didactics. Uses EPIC for EMR. Program has both DO and MD counterparts.

Any additional feedback would be awesome, making this rank list is almost the hardest part of med school! Thanks so much for all your help!!!

ForeverIM

 

[jdh71]

Hi can anyone tell me about VCU program? I interviewed at mostly mid-tier programs like Temple, UIC, Wake Forest, Baylor etc..and I have no geographic preferences. I will have total of 12 places to rank by the end of Jan. and wasn't sure whether that would be enough to match. Just trying to limit interviews in January so wondered about VCU program in general and the location too. Thanks!

Supposed to be a nice program. But it's smaller college town in/near the mountains. If you're more of a city guy, might be best not to waste their time, but it's a very solid program.

 

[jdh71]

Hello fellow SDNers,

I was wondering if you guys could help me out with your experience with a few programs. This isn't a "help me rank thread" I just would like to have all the information I could have before making a decision. I don't care much about prestige or geographical location.

1.Arrowhead Regional Medical Center, Colton, CA
- I know this has a bad reputation in the past of being scut heavy (as are most community hospitals) but I think that there is a new direction in the last few years that minimizes that. Established DO program with newer MD program. The location is pretty bad, but there are decent places to live around the area. They take 4 IM interns a year. It's a level 2 trauma center that is only lacking a CT surg. Nice Hospital.

2. Lehigh Valley, PA
- Gorgeous hospital, switching over to EMR. Has connected fellowships. Area is boring but not bad. Level 1 trauma center. Also community program. Dually accredited program.

3. Henry Ford, MI
- Hospital system is great with recognized name. Connected fellowships. Location is give or take. Strong didactics. Uses EPIC for EMR. Program has both DO and MD counterparts.

Any additional feedback would be awesome, making this rank list is almost the hardest part of med school! Thanks so much for all your help!!!

ForeverIM

FWIW, I'd go to SoCal before the others, but I'm sure fellowship chances are better coming out of Henry Ford overall. Don't know much about Lehigh.

 

[ForeverIM]

FWIW, I'd go to SoCal before the others, but I'm sure fellowship chances are better coming out of Henry Ford overall. Don't know much about Lehigh.

Thanks for the reply! Is that just due to location?

 

[jdh71]

Thanks for the reply! Is that just due to location?

Thanks for the reply! Is that just due to location?

Yeah. I think if you're seriously chasing fellowship, hold your nose and rank HF higher.

 

[Instatewaiter]

Hi can anyone tell me about VCU program? I interviewed at mostly mid-tier programs like Temple, UIC, Wake Forest, Baylor etc..and I have no geographic preferences. I will have total of 12 places to rank by the end of Jan. and wasn't sure whether that would be enough to match. Just trying to limit interviews in January so wondered about VCU program in general and the location too. Thanks!

The clinical training at VCU is solid. It is trying to assert itself as a research program over the last decade or so. It is a solid mid-tier program which serves a mainly indigent patient population. I think it delivers good training with faculty that are very interested in teaching. It perhaps is less known nationally and its fellowship matches tend to be local because of this. It has a strong reputation in the mid-Atlantic but is largely unknown far outside of the mid-Atlantic.

Richmond is a mid-sized city about 2 hours from the mountains, beach or DC. It has a burgeoning restaurant scene and affordable cost of living. People who live there and grew up there plan to stay. Everyone I know who grew up there and moved away for college or training is planning on moving back to Richmond. The inner city is dangerous (as are most inner cities) but the suburbs are very safe and a close drive. Public transit isn't all that great so a car is a must. It is situated on the James River and the city has made use of the waterfront with restaurants, bars and such near/on the water.

 

[Applicant9999]

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[jdh71]

Got a somewhat late interview offer at UPMC but only dates left are when I have other interviews scheduled, wondering if people can comment on Mayo rochester vs UPMC for IM residency. Interested potentially in cards, know mayo is superior in this, but is mayo a fellowship focused program like cleveland clinic? Also not sure if late interview means I am less likely to get ranked...

Go to Mayo.

 

[choc_mint]

Thank you!

 

[fantasty]

Go to Mayo.

I was actually going to suggest the opposite, based on Applicant's mention of how fellowship-focused Mayo is (at least by reputation). To be clear, I'm not knocking Mayo. But, if one is turned off by fellows' training superseding residents' training, I'd pick a solid academic program (like UPMC) over Mayo (unless the same happens at UPMC specifically, but I haven't heard that, and I know about the same number of folks who went to each).

 

[jdh71]

I was actually going to suggest the opposite, based on Applicant's mention of how fellowship-focused Mayo is (at least by reputation). To be clear, I'm not knocking Mayo. But, if one is turned off by fellows' training superseding residents' training, I'd pick a solid academic program (like UPMC) over Mayo (unless the same happens at UPMC specifically, but I haven't heard that, and I know about the same number of folks who went to each).

My opinion. Is it's a bit irrelevant because Mayo opens so many doors. One will find a cards match from UPMC, no problem, everything else being equal Mayo is the better choice if your gunning for the cards match. I see your point just think there's more chess to be played on this difference.

 

[ROL2015]

Does anyone have anything to say about work environment or teaching at MUSC, UNC, or Wakeforest

 

[Instatewaiter]

Does anyone have anything to say about work environment or teaching at MUSC, UNC, or Wakeforest

Reputation wise, UNC wins.
Location wise, MUSC wins.

 

[cp3340]

Does anyone have any thoughts or opinions of this place? I interviewed here and it seemed like a nice place. It was IMG heavy, but it seems like they do very well in the fellowship match? Philly would be a cool city to live and I would like to do GI, eventually. Thank you. The only thing that seems like a turn off is the paper charting and that everyone in Philadelphia seems to not even apply to this place. Does it have a bad reputation/ is it not prestigious at all?

 

[throwaway19891234]

how does UCSD stack up to places like UCLA, Mayo, UPMC, Wisconsin, in terms of clinical training and training competent and confident physicians? Obviously can't beat the location, but slightly concerned due to its former malignant reputation (at least on sdn)

to clarify further, obviously i'll get great fellowships at any of these programs so not concerned there. just want a nurturing environment where i'll learn become super competent

 

[UCSDIM]

how does UCSD stack up to places like UCLA, Mayo, UPMC, Wisconsin, in terms of clinical training and training competent and confident physicians? Obviously can't beat the location, but slightly concerned due to its former malignant reputation (at least on sdn)

to clarify further, obviously i'll get great fellowships at any of these programs so not concerned there. just want a nurturing environment where i'll learn become super competent

I can only give you what I hear from other residents, but what I do hear is that fellowship programs and community jobs are happy to have UCSD residents. With that said, I can't "compare" what it's like to train at UCSD to those other programs since I haven't trained there. Nothing but great things can be said about UCLA (I hear it's busy and they work you), Mayo, and Wisco. Regardless, because of the ACGME stuff, all programs have equalized over the last 5 years. You're still going to work hard where ever you go. Just check to see if the residents are happy.

Bottom line- you will become super competent at UCSD (or any of those other places you mentioned).

 

[journalism]

so... did everyone who interviewed at Einstein Montefiore in the Bronx get an "invitation to meet the residents" today? wondering if i have a schedule conflict whether i need to switch some things around...

 

[throwaway19891234]

I can only give you what I hear from other residents, but what I do hear is that fellowship programs and community jobs are happy to have UCSD residents. With that said, I can't "compare" what it's like to train at UCSD to those other programs since I haven't trained there. Nothing but great things can be said about UCLA (I hear it's busy and they work you), Mayo, and Wisco. Regardless, because of the ACGME stuff, all programs have equalized over the last 5 years. You're still going to work hard where ever you go. Just check to see if the residents are happy.

Bottom line- you will become super competent at UCSD (or any of those other places you mentioned).

thanks for the response!

 

[Yona33]

how does UCSD stack up to places like UCLA, Mayo, UPMC, Wisconsin, in terms of clinical training and training competent and confident physicians? Obviously can't beat the location, but slightly concerned due to its former malignant reputation (at least on sdn)

to clarify further, obviously i'll get great fellowships at any of these programs so not concerned there. just want a nurturing environment where i'll learn become super competent

I wouldn't call UCSD nurturing, but it's obviously a very strong program with a good rep. Mayo is more nurturing, but San Diego >>>>>> Rochester. You've got to really want to be nurtured for that trade-off to make sense.

 

[Sachin Tendulkar]

Does anyone have any idea about the categorical internal medicine residency program at Mount Auburn Hospital? Also, if anyone has interviewed there in past, can you please share the interview experience?

 

[Instatewaiter]

I have never heard of the place

 

[ChessMaster3000]

Does anyone have any idea about the categorical internal medicine residency program at Mount Auburn Hospital? Also, if anyone has interviewed there in past, can you please share the interview experience?

pretty sure no one has heard of it.