Program Specific Questions

[gutonc]

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I received an interview invite from Cornell today, but every single interview date on interview broker had already been taken. So I clicked a day that works for me and am now on the "waitlist" for that day. Is this typical for programs to offer more interview spots than are available, or should i contact their program regarding this issue.

Yes and Maybe. In that order.

 

[schpooner]

I'm trying to wrap my head around some of the west coast community programs. I'm an east coast MD grad looking to head back to the west coast and hoping to set myself up for a life of academics and a relatively competitive fellowship. I applied to mostly university affiliated programs, but I threw in some "community" ones although I'm coming to understand the differences between the two types are not that cut and dry...

What is the general sense of UCLA Harbor and Olive View, for instance? A forum search pulls up a pretty lively debate about the opportunities available out of these programs. Obviously not as academically focused as Reagan, but how are grads of these programs viewed after their training?

How about SCVMC vs Kaiser Santa Clara? I can see their current resident rosters, but I'm not quite sure how to interpret it in the context of fellowship opportunity.

I know that Cal Pacific is a solid program. Would I be crazy to rank it above tried and true "academic" programs like USC or Irvine or Davis?

Obviously I'm confident in getting "good training" from all these programs I applied to. But would fellowship/employment opportunities afterwards be geographically or otherwise restricted?

 

[Beacopp665]

I received an interview invite from Cornell today, but every single interview date on interview broker had already been taken. So I clicked a day that works for me and am now on the "waitlist" for that day. Is this typical for programs to offer more interview spots than are available, or should i contact their program regarding this issue.

I would keep checking interview broker honestly. Fortunately I was able to schedule my interview today, but when I looked about 10 minutes ago there were several dates that had "1 spot left" so you may catch it at a time when you can schedule

 

[throwaway19891234]

I would keep checking interview broker honestly. Fortunately I was able to schedule my interview today, but when I looked about 10 minutes ago there were several dates that had "1 spot left" so you may catch it at a time when you can schedule

hmmm just checked again and almost every single date has 5+ people on waiting list (others have 3 minimum). frustrating, maybe they will open more dates. for the other programs i got interview offers yet, multiple dates have been open.

frustrating that i waited a few hours before trying to sign up since i had to confirm available dates

 

[GreenLED]

Hello, I am looking to cancel ~5 interviews soon so that those spots can go to other people. I'm interested in cardiology. Which of the following programs do you suggests I cancel? thanks.

Iowa
Case western
Dartmouth
Georgetown
Rochester
Utah
Albert Einstein
Illinois
Indiana
Minnesota

 

[johndoe3344]

Hello, I am looking to cancel ~5 interviews soon so that those spots can go to other people. I'm interested in cardiology. Which of the following programs do you suggests I cancel? thanks.

Iowa
Case western
Dartmouth
Georgetown
Rochester
Utah
Albert Einstein
Illinois
Indiana
Minnesota

Keep Iowa, Case, Dartmouth, Georgetown, UMinn

 

[jdh71]

Hello, I am looking to cancel ~5 interviews soon so that those spots can go to other people. I'm interested in cardiology. Which of the following programs do you suggests I cancel? thanks.

Iowa
Case western
Dartmouth
Georgetown
Rochester
Utah
Albert Einstein
Illinois
Indiana
Minnesota

Uh. How many interviews are you planning on going to?

 

[doctorbucky]

Uh. How many interviews are you planning on going to?

Hello, I am looking to cancel ~5 interviews soon so that those spots can go to other people. I'm interested in cardiology. Which of the following programs do you suggests I cancel? thanks.

Iowa
Case western
Dartmouth
Georgetown
Rochester
Utah
Albert Einstein
Illinois
Indiana
Minnesota

If I were you, I'd keep Case, Dartmouth, Georgetown, Utah & Illinois. Iowa & Indiana are much weaker programs (harder for Cards fellowship). In addition, I've heard some iffy the things about the Iowa program (changing program directors, instabilty etc).

 

[GreenLED]

Uh. How many interviews are you planning on going to?

About 15ish.

Thanks for input everyone. Additional thoughts appreciated.

 

[jdh71]

About 15ish.

Thanks for input everyone. Additional thoughts appreciated.

If 15 why not go to them all until you need to start peeling away?

If you really want to get rid Of a few toss Georgetown, Albert Einstein, and UIC.

The rest I think are worth going to

 

[schpooner]

I'm trying to wrap my head around some of the west coast community programs. I'm an east coast MD grad looking to head back to the west coast and hoping to set myself up for a life of academics and a relatively competitive fellowship. I applied to mostly university affiliated programs, but I threw in some "community" ones although I'm coming to understand the differences between the two types are not that cut and dry...

What is the general sense of UCLA Harbor and Olive View, for instance? A forum search pulls up a pretty lively debate about the opportunities available out of these programs. Obviously not as academically focused as Reagan, but how are grads of these programs viewed after their training?

How about SCVMC vs Kaiser Santa Clara? I can see their current resident rosters, but I'm not quite sure how to interpret it in the context of fellowship opportunity.

I know that Cal Pacific is a solid program. Would I be crazy to rank it above tried and true "academic" programs like USC or Irvine or Davis?

Obviously I'm confident in getting "good training" from all these programs I applied to. But would fellowship/employment opportunities afterwards be geographically or otherwise restricted?

Bump anyone? TL;DR: which community programs on west coast to drop?

 

[GreenLED]

If 15 why not go to them all until you need to start peeling away?

If you really want to get rid Of a few toss Georgetown, Albert Einstein, and UIC.

The rest I think are worth going to

thanks.

i'm over 15 already. The programs i listed are ones i'm not too familiar with, thus may consider canceling. thanks for your thoughts

 

[jdh71]

thanks.

i'm over 15 already. The programs i listed are ones i'm not too familiar with, thus may consider canceling. thanks for your thoughts

Gotcha. On that list I think Minn, Case, Dartmouth, and Utah are the ones you *really* should not miss.

 

[chahn85]

A question about UTSW. No doubt it seems like a great program, and I am thinking of ranking it highly. One concern I have is its reputation for malignancy, and I have a family. Is this still the case, and will I be able to spend any meaningful time with my family if I end up at UTSW?

 

[Rocher]

Can anyone in the know comment on UNC's schedule for inpatient rotations in PGY 2-3? It says on their website, "upper level ward months are split in two, with half of the month spent as the day resident, and the other half as the night resident". Is it 8a-8p on days and 8p-8a on nights?

 

[jdh71]

A question about UTSW. No doubt it seems like a great program, and I am thinking of ranking it highly. One concern I have is its reputation for malignancy, and I have a family. Is this still the case, and will I be able to spend any meaningful time with my family if I end up at UTSW?

Working lots of hours /= "malignancy"

@obiwan any comments?

 

[fantasty]

If I were you, I'd keep Case, Dartmouth, Georgetown, Utah & Illinois. Iowa & Indiana are much weaker programs (harder for Cards fellowship). In addition, I've heard some iffy the things about the Iowa program (changing program directors, instabilty etc).

Not sure I agree with the concern about Iowa. Old PD is still active as education director, and the new PD has been continually recognized as an educator (can't say that I know anything about how that translates to PD skills). Couple of years out personally, but didn't know anyone who wanted cards or GI who wasn't able to get it.

 

[visari]

A question about UTSW. No doubt it seems like a great program, and I am thinking of ranking it highly. One concern I have is its reputation for malignancy, and I have a family. Is this still the case, and will I be able to spend any meaningful time with my family if I end up at UTSW?

malignant to me means you get yelled at, publicly humiliated, laughed at, asked to do scut work like blood draws and patient transportation and be abusively overworked above your ACGME duty hours ... if that what you mean by malignant then no, UTSW won't do that to you ... if you just mean busy or non-cushy ..then yes ..it is a busy program

 

[visari]

FYI there are only a handful of programs that I think are actually malignant ..they mostly tend to congregate in the NYC area

 

[CaptainCrunch7]

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[visari]

Hey guys I was looking for some input as to which interviews to keep among this group of places. I have about 10 places that I'm definitely going to in addition to these, planning on interviewing at 15-18 total. I'm not limited geographically and am looking for the strongest training program with the end goal being a cardiology fellowship

Dartmouth, Brown, Hopkins Bayview, Cedars Sinai, Tufts, Case, CCF, Jefferson, UIC, Wisconsin, Colorado, OSU, Loyola

Thanks!

I would drop Cedars, Tufts, UIC and Loyola (this one first). Personally I would drop CCF but it might be a good bridge to Cardiology fellowship.

 

[jdh71]

Hey guys I was looking for some input as to which interviews to keep among this group of places. I have about 10 places that I'm definitely going to in addition to these, planning on interviewing at 15-18 total. I'm not limited geographically and am looking for the strongest training program with the end goal being a cardiology fellowship

Dartmouth, Brown, Hopkins Bayview, Cedars Sinai, Tufts, Case, CCF, Jefferson, UIC, Wisconsin, Colorado, OSU, Loyola

Thanks!

If you're going to keep five?

Dartmouth (unless you could never abide a smaller city without a large metro area), Brown, Case, Wisconsin. Those four I guess would be my personal definitely go see. I'm not sure you miss out on too much by missing the rest and if these are a few of your "other" program possibilities, I'm betting you're doing fine otherwise.

I think 15 interviews is too much. But that's just me.

 

[johndoe3344]

Hey guys I was looking for some input as to which interviews to keep among this group of places. I have about 10 places that I'm definitely going to in addition to these, planning on interviewing at 15-18 total. I'm not limited geographically and am looking for the strongest training program with the end goal being a cardiology fellowship

Dartmouth, Brown, Hopkins Bayview, Cedars Sinai, Tufts, Case, CCF, Jefferson, UIC, Wisconsin, Colorado, OSU, Loyola

Thanks!

In addition to what JDH recommended, I'd probably keep Bayview as well. Yes, it's a "community" program, but since your end goal is a cards fellowship at a strong training program, you should be aware that its match list rivals that of a top 20 IM program.

 

[med20140]

Hey guys, I have a question is University of Nevada - Reno or is the Vegas campus the better IM Program?

I noticed that the actual medical school is in Reno, but the Vegas program has better fellowships like Cards, GI, etc. whereas Reno only has palliative care & geriatrics. Thanks!

 

[med20140]

How is the Wayne State / Detroit Medical Center IM Program? Is it considered mid-tier or low-tier? Thank you!

 

[gutonc]

How is the Wayne State / Detroit Medical Center IM Program? Is it considered mid-tier or low-tier? Thank you!

When you consider that the "mid-tier" includes about 70% of the programs out there, go ahead and put it in the mid-tier, if that means anything to you (which it shouldn't).

 

[kuuj3307]

Hey guys I was looking for some input as to which interviews to keep among this group of places. I have about 10 places that I'm definitely going to in addition to these, planning on interviewing at 15-18 total. I'm not limited geographically and am looking for the strongest training program with the end goal being a cardiology fellowship

Dartmouth, Brown, Hopkins Bayview, Cedars Sinai, Tufts, Case, CCF, Jefferson, UIC, Wisconsin, Colorado, OSU, Loyola

Thanks!

I went to Wisconsin last week. It really stood out. PD is phenomenal, and his vision for what he wants out of his residents and the program resonates. I would definitely go on that one. I loved it.

 

[throwaway19891234]

how does the reputation of hopkins bayview compare to university programs like north carolina, Iowa, wisconsin, minnesota, florida, maryland?

 

[johndoe3344]

how does the reputation of hopkins bayview compare to university programs like north carolina, Iowa, wisconsin, minnesota, florida, maryland?

Hopkins Bayview is probably the strongest "community" program in the country. It is typically thought of as being on par with a upper mid-tier university program (though its fellowship matches are as good as a top tier program). Geographic preferences aside, I would probably rank: UNC > UW-Madison / Bayview > UIowa / UMinn / UMD > Florida, though others may disagree.

 

[obiwan]

Working lots of hours /= "malignancy"

@obiwan any comments?

yeah, UTSW is a busy program and yeah you probably will spend a little less time with your family as compared to say if you went into something like being a teacher but malignant it is not.

PM if you have specific ?s

 

[Rocher]

I need to cancel 1-2 of these interviews: VCU, MUSC, UF, Brown. Which ones would you guys cancel?

 

[bobow98]

I need to cancel 1-2 of these interviews: VCU, MUSC, UF, Brown. Which ones would you guys cancel?

Depends on how important being in a warm place is for you.

 

[Rocher]

Depends on how important being in a warm place is for you.

I honestly don't care at all.

 

[bobow98]

I honestly don't care at all.

In that case we need some more experience people here to help.

 

[gutonc]

I need to cancel 1-2 of these interviews: VCU, MUSC, UF, Brown. Which ones would you guys cancel?

Keep VCU and Brown.

 

[hawksfan]

I wanted to do one interview on each coast, since I'm Midwestern born and raised, so I applied to a few programs on each. I've gotten interviews at UCSD, Boston University, Dartmouth Hitchcock, and MUSC. I don't particularly want to pay for all three flights (I have it scheduled currently so I could go from Boston to Dartmouth the same week), so am looking to cancel one. I was thinking about canceling MUSC, but if anyone has any other opinions I would appreciate them! Not sure of the caliber of these programs, but grateful to have gotten the interview opportunities. Thanks!

 

[johndoe3344]

I wanted to do one interview on each coast, since I'm Midwestern born and raised, so I applied to a few programs on each. I've gotten interviews at UCSD, Boston University, Dartmouth Hitchcock, and MUSC. I don't particularly want to pay for all three flights (I have it scheduled currently so I could go from Boston to Dartmouth the same week), so am looking to cancel one. I was thinking about canceling MUSC, but if anyone has any other opinions I would appreciate them! Not sure of the caliber of these programs, but grateful to have gotten the interview opportunities. Thanks!

I'd do the same in your shoes. Then again, I like the city life, so YMMV.

 

[gutonc]

I wanted to do one interview on each coast, since I'm Midwestern born and raised, so I applied to a few programs on each. I've gotten interviews at UCSD, Boston University, Dartmouth Hitchcock, and MUSC. I don't particularly want to pay for all three flights (I have it scheduled currently so I could go from Boston to Dartmouth the same week), so am looking to cancel one. I was thinking about canceling MUSC, but if anyone has any other opinions I would appreciate them! Not sure of the caliber of these programs, but grateful to have gotten the interview opportunities. Thanks!

Cancel MUSC.

 

[schlieren]

I'm so delighted to see how popular Dartmouth-Hitchcock is in this thread. It is indeed a very friendly and strong program. Welcome! 😍

 

[asrhx4]

Anyone have any experience with the Lenox Hill program? On their website, it seems like they have relatively decent fellowship placements, and working next to central park sounds pretty appealing. But it's still a community program right? Even though they were bought out by the LIJ/Hofstra program?

 

[piptazo]

I called UC Davis today, and the PC told me my app is currently "on hold." From what she said, seems like they've only had one round of invites yet. Any one have experience with this / how to interpret the "on hold"? Is an interview still a possibility after this? Is it normal to send out all invites just at once? The PC said she'd note I called and am interested, though this is my absolute first choice and is kind of making my head spin. Appreciate any advice!

 

[visari]

Anyone have any experience with the Lenox Hill program? On their website, it seems like they have relatively decent fellowship placements, and working next to central park sounds pretty appealing. But it's still a community program right? Even though they were bought out by the LIJ/Hofstra program?

and paying to live in Manhattan is even more appealing

 

[asrhx4]

and paying to live in Manhattan is even more appealing

So they are in no way associated with the subsidized housing that the LIJ system provides?

 

[visari]

So they are in no way associated with the subsidized housing that the LIJ system provides?

I truly don't know. I would defer to somebody who is familiar with the LIJ system. I know for a fact though that Cornell's system is a joke and you still end up paying most of your salary on renting a studio the size of a prison cell.

 

[gutonc]

So they are in no way associated with the subsidized housing that the LIJ system provides?

Last I checked (which was a long-ass time ago natch), the subsidized housing that NS-LIJ-Hofstra-Hoffa-Whatever provided was out on Long Island. LH did have some subsidized housing but it was minimal and total s*** (not to mention not enough for everyone that wanted it).

That said, the way the NYC housing market is going, if they let you crash in a free ICU bed for <$1000 a month you should probably jump on it.

 

[asrhx4]

I truly don't know. I would defer to somebody who is familiar with the LIJ system. I know for a fact though that Cornell's system is a joke and you still end up paying most of your salary on renting a studio the size of a prison cell.

That's honestly what i'm worried about. I would love to live in NYC but if there was no help from the program (like what LIJ offers) , I doubt i'd seriously consider it. Gotta start paying off these loans at a a reasonable time...

 

[asrhx4]

Last I checked (which was a long-ass time ago natch), the subsidized housing that NS-LIJ-Hofstra-Hoffa-Whatever provided was out on Long Island. LH did have some subsidized housing but it was minimal and total s*** (not to mention not enough for everyone that wanted it).

That said, the way the NYC housing market is going, if they let you crash in a free ICU bed for <$1000 a month you should probably jump on it.

haha thanks for the advice. I'd rather not live in an ICU bed.

 

[gutonc]

haha thanks for the advice. I'd rather not live in an ICU bed.

It's better than what you'll be able to live in for <$2K a month in the city.

 

[DTUD]

Not much luck finding Cook County Hospital's fellowship match information, any ideas how well they fare at placing residents back into academia for fellowship (especially for Pulm Critical Care ?)

 

[Gubernaculum13]

Anyone have an insight into Lehigh Valley IM program? What percent DO/MD/IMG>? Do they match GI? thanks!