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Hello everyone,

I'm at the point where I need to cancel a few interviews.

Thoughts on which 2 to keep? (I've got a strong northeast bias, but only I can tell how important is that to me.) What I'm asking is would it be crazy to keep Temple and cancel UVA or UMD? Is UNC a must see?

Temple
University of Maryland
UVA
UNC
Tufts
 
vman51 said:
Hello everyone,

I'm at the point where I need to cancel a few interviews.

Thoughts on which 2 to keep? (I've got a strong northeast bias, but only I can tell how important is that to me.) What I'm asking is would it be crazy to keep Temple and cancel UVA or UMD? Is UNC a must see?

Temple
University of Maryland
UVA
UNC
Tufts
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Again, only you can decide how important it is for you to be in the NE (where you won't see the light of day for most of the next 3 years anyway) but on the most objective basis possible (which isn't that objective), yes, you'd be crazy to skip UNC and UVA with UMD right on the cusp there. But definitely those 3 above Tufts and Temple...again, speaking "objectishly".
 
vman51 said:
Hello everyone,

I'm at the point where I need to cancel a few interviews.

Thoughts on which 2 to keep? (I've got a strong northeast bias, but only I can tell how important is that to me.) What I'm asking is would it be crazy to keep Temple and cancel UVA or UMD? Is UNC a must see?

Temple
University of Maryland
UVA
UNC
Tufts
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Personally I would keep UVA and UNC. Depends on what you want though. I think these places have a stronger national reputation for fellowship positions and stronger training.

It wouldn't be crazy if you really, really wanted to train in philly or boston and didn't want to be in C-Ville, Baltimore or Raleigh.
 
Hi Guys,

Can anyone give me an insider look on the following programs:
MUSC
Tulane
USF

I don't know much about them aside from what's on the website and their location, and I'm considering dropping one or two of them to ease up interview costs.

Thanks!
 
Whats the view on Des Moines Osteopathic Internal Medicine program or their program in general? I understand its part of the UofIowa which is a solid program. Is this a livable city for single guys? How is the lifestyle here.
 
Stevewonders90 said:
Whats the view on Des Moines Osteopathic Internal Medicine program or their program in general? I understand its part of the UofIowa which is a solid program. Is this a livable city for single guys? How is the lifestyle here.
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Where did u hear it's u iowa?
 
Stevewonders90 said:
Whats the view on Des Moines Osteopathic Internal Medicine program or their program in general? I understand its part of the UofIowa which is a solid program. Is this a livable city for single guys? How is the lifestyle here.
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Des Moines is actually cooler than you might think but I'm not going to try and sell you it's a small Chicago or anything.

I knew guys who did residency there and it was solid training (the hospital is big and handles just about everything except transplants) but didn't do them any favors when it came time to try and interview for fellowships - just being honest - though I think they said most folks still matched somewhere.

It would probably be ok for a single guy. I mean why not? What learned in. It's residency and fellowship is that a guy can live just about anywhere for three years. It's just three years.
 
Yeah sorry its affiliated. I guess most Iowa programs are?

What about getting ostoepathic fellowships like GI?
 
Stevewonders90 said:
Whats the view on Des Moines Osteopathic Internal Medicine program or their program in general? I understand its part of the UofIowa which is a solid program. Is this a livable city for single guys? How is the lifestyle here.
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I'm not sure if the affiliations have changed, but the DM campus is linked to the medical school, but I'm not sure what extent the residency programs are affiliated.

DM is supposedly a nice city to live in but I can't really comment on that.

Iowa City, on the other hand, is very much a college town. Definitely a fine place to live for a single resident. Lots of stuff to do for a city that size. Collegetown prices for living, though. Easy to get around. Although a lot of young professionals are married with kids, there are still plenty of young and single folks. IM program is a nice mix of common / bread & butter (mostly through the VA) and rare / tertiary care (as UIHC is the major referral location for 1/2 of the state). Don't really know of anyone who wanted cards or GI who didn't get it.
 
gutonc said:
Again, only you can decide how important it is for you to be in the NE (where you won't see the light of day for most of the next 3 years anyway) but on the most objective basis possible (which isn't that objective), yes, you'd be crazy to skip UNC and UVA with UMD right on the cusp there. But definitely those 3 above Tufts and Temple...again, speaking "objectishly".
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Why do you say those 3 above Tufts specifically? What are your thoughts (and any other people!) on Tufts' IM program? I mean pros/cons.

I interviewed there and it underwhelmed me. The residents were nice but were so-so on enthusiasm about their program (could just be the specific resident). PD was nice with a long tenure but ehh about being personable to the applicants; residents seemed to love him though. Residents said they work hard and admitted sometimes they can go over the 80 hour work week if need be. But overall, none of them are worried about the fellowship match and getting what they want.
 
Anyone have updated thoughts on the Stanford IM program? My understanding is that the "new" administration has been in place a few years now and was wondering what the feel is. Any change in where it stacks up against other top programs?
 
Has anyone heard from Maimonides Medical Center IM yet? Thanks
 
Does anyone have any experience rotating at JMH or IM residency at this hospital? Is the training good? How is the atmosphere in this residency? workload? balance? If any one has some light to shed on the program, I would really appreciate it.
 
Hammergin said:
Anyone have updated thoughts on the Stanford IM program? My understanding is that the "new" administration has been in place a few years now and was wondering what the feel is. Any change in where it stacks up against other top programs?
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In my opinion, definitely in Tier 1. The last few years they have been as competitive as anyone in terms of who they get and where they send people for fellowships. Though their leadership has now been in place for several years they are still young and creative & the residents seem very happy.

You can't go wrong with any program in this tier. Each place has particular strengths and relative weaknesses, so see if they are the best fit if/when you go out there. Good luck!
 
Does anyone have experience with the internal medicine department at WMUSOM. I tried google but can't get much info. Trying to see how good of a program it is.

Thanks
 
anyone have thoughts on Western Michigan University IM program in Kalamazoo, MI?
 
I need some help in clarifying which of these Internal Medicine community programs are thought of to be the better programs. I currently am unable to attend interviews at all of these programs due to invite overlap. As not being from the area I really do not have much information to go on besides the websites.

1) is Yale-Waterbury or Yale-Norwalk a better program

2) is Mt.Sinai St Lukes - roosevelt or Mt. SInai Beth Israel a better program

Can anyone who goes to any of these programs describe what the resident class is like and how they match into fellowship? The help is greatly appreciated.
 
Yona33 said:
In my opinion, definitely in Tier 1. The last few years they have been as competitive as anyone in terms of who they get and where they send people for fellowships. Though their leadership has now been in place for several years they are still young and creative & the residents seem very happy.

You can't go wrong with any program in this tier. Each place has particular strengths and relative weaknesses, so see if they are the best fit if/when you go out there. Good luck!
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I disagree. We have a good friend who is a full Professor of Internal Medicine at Stanford who feels the program is overrated and the clinical training is poor compared to most other California academic programs. The program remains competitive because of the name "Stanford".......I have heard this from most. The medical school has the same issue...
 
BrainBuff said:
I disagree. We have a good friend who is a full Professor of Internal Medicine at Stanford who feels the program is overrated and the clinical training is poor compared to most other California academic programs. The program remains competitive because of the name "Stanford".......I have heard this from most. The medical school has the same issue...
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So Stanford is in the bottom half of the academic programs in California? Not many people would buy this.
 
Riiiiiight. Your friend is entitled to his or her opinion, but the facts (competitiveness, fellowship match data) speak for themselves. Stanford is a great program and one on the rise. Of course not the only great program out there but in the mix with any of them.
 
gaomusic said:
Why do you say those 3 above Tufts specifically? What are your thoughts (and any other people!) on Tufts' IM program? I mean pros/cons.

I interviewed there and it underwhelmed me. The residents were nice but were so-so on enthusiasm about their program (could just be the specific resident). PD was nice with a long tenure but ehh about being personable to the applicants; residents seemed to love him though. Residents said they work hard and admitted sometimes they can go over the 80 hour work week if need be. But overall, none of them are worried about the fellowship match and getting what they want.
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It is fine but it really depends on what your options are and what you are hoping to do. It probably matches a bit better in fellowship than one might think and the program is all right but little is special about the program unless you are dying to live in Boston.
 
Thinking of cancelling some interviews. Anyone have any input on the quality/fellowship opportunities of:

Yale Norwalk
Lutheran Medical Center
St Barnabas Med Cntr (NJ)
Montefiore New Rochelle
St Mary's (waterbury CT)
Univ of Chicago (Northshore)
Flushing Hospital Medical Center
NSLIJ Forest Hills
NY Methodist
 
choc_mint said:
Does anyone know anything about Interfaith Hospital, Brooklyn NY Internal Medicine residency? I heard the program has been in financial crisis since 2012 and that the program was almost closed in 2013. New management implemented on May 2014. The latest news available (Sept 2014) about Interfaith hospital is that their ER wait is the longest among NY hospitals.

Got an IV from there.. Seeing the reputation, I am conflicted whether or not to attend the IV. If anyone has reliable information from someone in the program, please share it here. Thank you!
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Didn't rotate there but have spoke to other students who have. Its a mostly IMG run hospital, and the hospital itself isnt nice. Thats kind of where my conversation ended, sorry couldn't be of more help.
 
Gubernaculum13 said:
Thinking of cancelling some interviews. Anyone have any input on the quality/fellowship opportunities of:

Yale Norwalk
Lutheran Medical Center
St Barnabas Med Cntr (NJ)
Montefiore New Rochelle
St Mary's (waterbury CT)
Univ of Chicago (Northshore)
Flushing Hospital Medical Center
NSLIJ Forest Hills
NY Methodist
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There's only really one decent program on that list, UC-Northshore. I assume the rest of your interviews (15+, right?) are at better programs than these. If you can swing it I'd cancel all of those.
 
rd31 said:
So Stanford is in the bottom half of the academic programs in California? Not many people would buy this.
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Yona33 said:
Riiiiiight. Your friend is entitled to his or her opinion, but the facts (competitiveness, fellowship match data) speak for themselves. Stanford is a great program and one on the rise. Of course not the only great program out there but in the mix with any of them.
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No need to get hysterical about my post .. okaaayyyyy ??? Stanford is a research power house. Clinically it is not one. That is a fact. Patient access and diversity is not one of the strengths of Palo Alto and Santa Clara Valley. And that does not mean either it is at the "bottom of the academic programs in California". I love Stanford and for reasons I do not need to divulge here, I am very familiar with their program. Let's leave it at that. At the end, it is a matter of preference of what you want for your training and where you want to spend the next few years at.

I encourage you all to rank it number one, please.
 
BrainBuff said:
No need to get hysterical about my post .. okaaayyyyy ??? Stanford is a research power house. Clinically it is not one. That is a fact. Patient access and diversity is not one of the strengths of Palo Alto and Santa Clara Valley. And that does not mean either it is at the "bottom of the academic programs in California". I love Stanford and for reasons I do not need to divulge here, I am very familiar with their program. Let's leave it at that. At the end, it is a matter of preference of what you want for your training and where you want to spend the next few years at.

I encourage you all to rank it number one, please.
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You are certainly entitled to your opinion but I could not disagree more with your 'facts.' Stanford is a large MediCal provider and probably has one of the most ethnically diverse populations in the country, particularly with a very large immigrant population. SCV is a county hospital with essentially all underserved patients. The VA is also a big part of their program (with a typical veteran population).

But as you say, in the end, it is a matter of preference. Best to all in making your choices.
 
I am not from the area and need some help delineating the middle/lower their programs in NYC. How would one go about ranking the following programs for an IM residency.

SUNY stonybrook
SUNY downstate
St. Lukes-Roosevelt
Lenox Hill
Beth Israel
Rutgers-Newark
 
jdh71 said:
This plus 1000
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Thanks! I think Ill go on UC- Northshore but was looking for one more "safety" program in the tri-state area (northeast). I guess ill just pick one, unless there is one that someone knows is a little better. Thanks!
 
Yona33 said:
You are certainly entitled to your opinion but I could not disagree more with your 'facts.' Stanford is a large MediCal provider and probably has one of the most ethnically diverse populations in the country, particularly with a very large immigrant population. SCV is a county hospital with essentially all underserved patients. The VA is also a big part of their program (with a typical veteran population).

But as you say, in the end, it is a matter of preference. Best to all in making your choices.
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The ethnic makeup of Santa Clara is 52,359 (45.0%) White, 3,154 (2.7%) African American, 43,889 (37.7%) Asian, 22,589 (19.4%) Hispanic.
The ethnic makeup of Palo Alto is 41,359 (64.2%) White, 17,461 (27.1%) Asian, 1,197 (1.9%) African American, 17,461 (27.1%) Asian, Hispanics are 3,974 persons (6.2%).

The most diverse regions in the country are considered to be those that have close to an even distribution of residents across the most common ethnic groups- around 25% each. The Stanford area is NOT one of the most ethnically diverse regions in the country. Stanford has a hard time competing from patients in an area with a population of less than 200 000. In addition, most patients coming from elsewhere in search of "expert" medical opinions will end up at .........UCSF which is 32.6 miles away - in part because they fly into San Francisco.

That's is the problem with Stanford, and those are "facts". But you are entitled to your opinion. And I agree to disagree with you.
 
BrainBuff said:
The ethnic makeup of Santa Clara is 52,359 (45.0%) White, 3,154 (2.7%) African American, 43,889 (37.7%) Asian, 22,589 (19.4%) Hispanic..
The ethnic makeup of Palo Alto is 41,359 (64.2%) White, 17,461 (27.1%) .Asian., 1,197 (1.9%) .African American., 17,461 (27.1%) Asian, .Hispanics .are 3,974 persons (6.2%).
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The most diverse regions in the country are considered to be those that have close to an even distribution of residents across the most common ethnic groups- around 25% each. The Stanford area is NOT one of the most ethnically diverse regions in the country. Stanford has a hard time competing from patients in an area with a population of less than 200 000. In addition, most patients coming from elsewhere in search of "expert" medical opinions will end up at .........UCSF which is 32.6 miles away - in part because they fly into San Francisco..

That's is the problem with Stanford, and those are "facts". But you are entitled to your opinion. And I agree to disagree with you..
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If you believe that the entire makeup of the Stanford population is Palo Alto, then go on believing those numbers.

But I will similarly agree to stop with this micturition contest with you.

Good luck to the OP -- draw your own conclusions when you visit!
 
I've seen that this has come up a few times, but apparently CCF's IM program doesn't quite meet up to CCF's reputation in general? I have 13 other low/mid tier academic program interviews scheduled and I was thinking about cancelling this one. I ultimately want to do a fellowship that is moderately competitive, and I hear that they don't take many of their own. I'm not crazy for cancelling this, right?
 
ggpia2343 said:
I've seen that this has come up a few times, but apparently CCF's IM program doesn't quite meet up to CCF's reputation in general? I have 13 other low/mid tier academic program interviews scheduled and I was thinking about cancelling this one. I ultimately want to do a fellowship that is moderately competitive, and I hear that they don't take many of their own. I'm not crazy for cancelling this, right?
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No.
 
Hey guys, can anyone share any insight on Mt. Sinai beth israel vs. LIJHS? I'm thinking about canceling one. And I'm hoping to do cardiology. Thank you!
 
kari123 said:
Hey guys, can anyone share any insight on Mt. Sinai beth israel vs. LIJHS? I'm thinking about canceling one. And I'm hoping to do cardiology. Thank you!
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Both are pretty similar as far as reputation and training goes. NSLIJ will probably give you a better chance at cardio based on BI's last year cardio match (their website had 1 person). Two very different programs though, NSLIJ is a wealthy hospital on long islang with 40 something residents. BI is in the city
 
Any thoughts on the following community programs? Looking for a wide range of pathology and am interested in pursuing a fellowship. Interviewing at academic programs as well

UC Northshore vs UPMC Mercy vs Albert Einstein (Philly)

Thanks!
 
What are people's thoughts about Case Western vs Ohio State? Including any thoughts about Cleveland vs Columbus.
 
PublicEnema said:
What are people's thoughts about Case Western vs Ohio State? Including any thoughts about Cleveland vs Columbus.
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As always it depends what you are looking for, but at least in terms of reputation Case is significantly ahead of Ohio State.

Cleveland vs. Columbus = Equally depressing.
 
I know there has been a lot of Cleveland Clinic bashing on this forum, so I wanted to create a new thread without so much negativity. CC vs Hopkins Bayview?
 
Could anyone speak to U Colorado's IM program? I feel like I have repeatedly heard that you can expect to be overworked and push 80hrs weekly in addition to needing to travel to multiple hospitals. Most of the good that I have heard is reputation and their pulm/cc program. Anyone willing to offer up why it would be a better option than Minnesota/OHSU?
 
LovelyBRass said:
rutgers
stony
slr
BI
lenox
downstate

my biases: university > community, then programs in good locations with AMGs, then acknowledging downstate is the worst
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Can you elaborate on downstate? Do they generally take their residents for their fellowships? Where would you rank jacobi?
 
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