2009-2010 Georgetown Application Thread

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I interviewed at the beginning of January as well. And if i am not mistaken, i believe someone said that we would know before the end of February. I just hope we find out tomorrow or next week sometime.
 
I just got an email this morning about my Financial Aid appointment. I still haven't gotten anything about my RSVP. Have they firmed up the schedule any more than the loose outline they already had? Also, what are people wearing to this thing? It is business casual, right?

I just heard back about my RSVP today, sent yesterday. No details yet about specifics on the schedule. Slacks and a dress shirt, probably, in terms of attire.


So who here is going to second look day?

I will be there, definitely. Then spending a fun weekend in DC, seeing all the tourist things and night hot spots.
 
i just heard back and i interviewed at the beginning of january.
i got placed in the competitive applicant pool for further consideration.. this means i'm waitlisted right?
 
i just heard back and i interviewed at the beginning of january.
i got placed in the competitive applicant pool for further consideration.. this means i'm waitlisted right?

yeah. not a horrible thing though. you still have a good chance at acceptance
 
i just heard back and i interviewed at the beginning of january.
i got placed in the competitive applicant pool for further consideration.. this means i'm waitlisted right?

If you don't mind me asking, what day did you interview? (I'm trying to gauge whether or not i should expect to hear something)
 
i just heard back and i interviewed at the beginning of january.
i got placed in the competitive applicant pool for further consideration.. this means i'm waitlisted right?

I got the CAP e-mail too. I just sent in a LOI though, so now I'm not really sure what else to say in this e-mail we're supposed to send....
 
If you don't mind me asking, what day did you interview? (I'm trying to gauge whether or not i should expect to hear something)

I interviewed 1/6, and heard back 2/22.

So I'm about to write the letter, and I remember Ms. Sullivan giving us a general guideline: why Georgetown is right for you, and why you are right for Georgetown..
Is that correct? Or should I include more info?
 
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Interviewed, waiting
kiwi09 (i: 11/16)

Rejected post-interview
aero4
CanKinMed (i: 9/1, r: 10/19)
FML (i: 9/2, r: 10/19)
BlueElmo (i: 9/3, r: 10/19)
c17h (i: 9/9, r: 10/19)
6760French (i: 9/14, r: 10/27)
GTV (i: 9/18, r: 10/27)
JediZero (i: 10/15, r: 11/23)
ProtonatedAlchy (i: 10/22, r: 12/8)
HateTheMCAT (i: 10/30, r: 12/11)

Accepted
bamtuba (a: 10/19)
MCP1 (i: first week Sept., a: 10/19)
orange4me (i: 9/4, a: 10/19)
gallodeportiva (i: 9/17, a: 10/27)
gabz (i: 10/2, a: 11/13)
anxiousteen (i: 10/20, a: 12/8)
Dantheman1828 (i: 10/26, a: 12/8)
TaylorMDhopeful (i: 11/5, a: 12/22)
GoDucks (i: 11/6, a: 12/22)
comoroa (i: late Nov., a: late Jan.)
medmannamdem (i: 12/2, a: 2/4)

CAP
lamedica
elizalandry
linkin06 (i: 9/4, cap: 10/19)
mrmilad (i: 9/9, cap: 10/19)
mannyowens (cap: 10/27)
jackson1 (i: 9/14, cap: 10/27)
sportygirl10 (i: 9/25, cap: 11/6)
gobucks4life (i: 10/1, cap: 11/4)
He2 (i: 10/6, cap: 11/23)
Stormchica2 (i: 10/7, cap: 11/23)
DCBME2007 (i: 10/28, cap: first week dec.)
whs386 (i: 10/28, cap: 12/8)
AyCaramba (i: 11/13, cap: 1/21)
iCarly (i: 11/30, cap: 1/21)
swmmr984 (i: 12/2, cap: 2/2)
Reeknee (i: 1/4, cap: 2/22)
fgw13 (i: 1/6, cap: 2/22)

CAP, withdrew/no loi
Bryson17 (cap: 10/19)
kierkegaard (cap: 10/27)
KTD (i: 9/23, cap: 11/6)
copper coins (i: 9/25, cap: 11/6)
mdeast (i: 9/28, cap: 11/6)
doctor2014 (i: 11/4, cap: 12/18)

Accepted off CAP
Legacy87 (i: 9/11, cap: 10/27, a: 1/14)
lstone13 (a: 1/15)
MacBookMD (i: 9/17, a: 1/15)
tatchle1 (cap: 10/19, a: 1/15)
CUBR (i: 9/29, cap: 11/13, a: 1/15)
RocknAction (i: 9/8, loi: 11/2, a: 1/15)
GoBeers (i: 10/28, cap: 12/8, a: 1/15)
vitty (i: 9/25, loi: 11/16, a: 1/20)
Omar Gooding: (i: 10/7, a: 1/20)
nickv429 (i: 10/15, a: 1/20)
 
It's kind of encouraging that so many people have been accepted off the cap. Do any of these people have any suggestions on what to write in the letter?
 
I think you should just be honest. I basically stated all the reasons (narrowed it down to 3-4 main points) why Georgetown was my first choice and how I am a good fit for the program. I was a little blunt, stating that I would certainly attend if given the chance but that is true for me and I don't think you need to say something along those lines if it is not true. If you want any more ideas PM me, otherwise good luck!
 
Same here, I narrowed it down to three main points and was frank enought to say that if accepted, I would be matriculating in the fall, which is 100% true. If it's absolutely your number 1 choice, just make it clear and I think that they would love to have you as long as the spots are available. GL!

Anyone know if there's a facebook group or anything for GUSOM c/o 2014? Maybe PM me if there is??
 
I didn't write a letter for GU, but I wrote some for other schools. I always had a few main points that tied back to something I've done. This (hopefully!) made me look like I knew what I was talking about, like I was talking the talk AND walking the walk, and most importantly, like I'd be a valued asset to their school. I tried to pick specific points that would apply only to that one school (not "I like the integrated systems-based curriculum" or "I like the atmosphere").

For example, someone could have the following points:

#1: "I'm interested in global health because I spent a summer abroad volunteering in India, and GU has a great global health program. The XYZ Fellowship would allow me to continue my work in India next summer."

#2: "I'm passionate about working in underserved communities because I grew up in an area with few resources and I volunteered in a free clinic during college. GU has a strong emphasis on community service and runs XYZ, a free clinic which I'd love to be involved in."

#3: "I enjoy learning about history so much that I minored in it. Living in D.C., home to America's greatest history museums, would be a dream come true."

My advice (take it with a grain of salt): don't have your love of "cura personalis" as a main point unless you have a unique reason for supporting the doctrine. It will almost certainly be overused.
 
Well put. I have heard however, that they are not fond of people really over emphasizing their desire to go to DC. Like Cura Personalis, you could and should mention it but don't make it the focus of your essay.

I didn't write a letter for GU, but I wrote some for other schools. I always had a few main points that tied back to something I've done. This (hopefully!) made me look like I knew what I was talking about, like I was talking the talk AND walking the walk, and most importantly, like I'd be a valued asset to their school. I tried to pick specific points that would apply only to that one school (not "I like the integrated systems-based curriculum" or "I like the atmosphere").

For example, someone could have the following points:

#1: "I'm interested in global health because I spent a summer abroad volunteering in India, and GU has a great global health program. The XYZ Fellowship would allow me to continue my work in India next summer."

#2: "I'm passionate about working in underserved communities because I grew up in an area with few resources and I volunteered in a free clinic during college. GU has a strong emphasis on community service and runs XYZ, a free clinic which I'd love to be involved in."

#3: "I enjoy learning about history so much that I minored in it. Living in D.C., home to America's greatest history museums, would be a dream come true."

My advice (take it with a grain of salt): don't have your love of "cura personalis" as a main point unless you have a unique reason for supporting the doctrine. It will almost certainly be overused.
 
I would also emphasize fit. How do you fit in with the culture at GTown? Also, how will you benefit from going to GTown and how will GTown benefit from you going there? I also wrote about what I hoped to do with my education from GTown. Make it unique.

I also heard Dr. Lauerman is a very straight to the point person. Make it direct.

Those were just some of my thoughts when I wrote my letter. GL to you.
 
I didn't write a letter for GU, but I wrote some for other schools. I always had a few main points that tied back to something I've done. This (hopefully!) made me look like I knew what I was talking about, like I was talking the talk AND walking the walk, and most importantly, like I'd be a valued asset to their school. I tried to pick specific points that would apply only to that one school (not "I like the integrated systems-based curriculum" or "I like the atmosphere").

For example, someone could have the following points:

#1: "I'm interested in global health because I spent a summer abroad volunteering in India, and GU has a great global health program. The XYZ Fellowship would allow me to continue my work in India next summer."

#2: "I'm passionate about working in underserved communities because I grew up in an area with few resources and I volunteered in a free clinic during college. GU has a strong emphasis on community service and runs XYZ, a free clinic which I'd love to be involved in."

#3: "I enjoy learning about history so much that I minored in it. Living in D.C., home to America's greatest history museums, would be a dream come true."

My advice (take it with a grain of salt): don't have your love of "cura personalis" as a main point unless you have a unique reason for supporting the doctrine. It will almost certainly be overused.

Thank you for that advice. Also, you were accepted off the CAP without writing a letter? I thought that was practically required to get off the CAP...
 
I wasn't on the CAP. You are right--you can't get accepted off the CAP without a letter!!
 
So I will be seeing you guys at second look day, but I was wondering (for those who have gotten into their in state schools) how much are you concerned about the debt?

do you think there are benefits to going to GT versus a state school...
 
For me, there are benefits of going to Georgetown over my state school. I thought about this for awhile and in the end it will mean ~40-50K difference over four years. While at this point in my life it is a lot, I don't think it is worth fretting over too much because I will be in the position to pay it off eventually. Instead, I want to go to Gtown b/c I got the best feeling while I was there compared to my state school and the programs as well as focus of the school is in line with what I want. Secondly, I have grown up in Cali my whole life and though I want to come back for residency, I would like to have the experience of living on the east coast.


So I will be seeing you guys at second look day, but I was wondering (for those who have gotten into their in state schools) how much are you concerned about the debt?

do you think there are benefits to going to GT versus a state school...
 
I'm choosing GT over my state school, OHSU, too. I had three reasons:

#1. I got a bad vibe from OHSU for lots of school-specific reasons.
#2. I spent my whole life on the west coast, and most of that time in Portland--it's time for a change.
#3. Judging by my east-coast interviews, people there know very little about the northwest and schools like OHSU. If I go to OHSU, it will be harder to get a good residency outside of the west coast. There's also the problem that residency coordinators might think I only got into OHSU because it's my state school.

Plus, I don't want to pay for a bunch of plane tickets again when I do my residency interviews! 😀

If I wanted to go into FP, I'd be singing a different tune.
 
I'm dealing with this question right now -

I'm kind of stressing out. It is very hard to decide if the 18,000 dollars a year more at Georgetown is worth it compared to my instate school (VCU).

Any thoughts?

Does it make any difference if I want to stay in VA (or DC) for residency? How much does the name of the school help with residency as compared to your grades and board scores?

Tough decision.
 
People will say that the name of your med school doesn't make a huge difference when it comes to applying for residency, just like they say that the name of your undergrad doesn't make a huge difference when applying to med school.

If the second of these statements were true, though, why was it that over half the people I met on the interview trail came from top 20 universities? Top 20 universities account for a TINY fraction of the applicants, yet a HUGE percentage of the acceptances. Food for thought.

My theory: fancy high schools feed top 20 universities which feed prestigious med schools, so why should I believe that the buck stops there? I'm glad for the opportunity to enter this portal, even if it's late in the game.

That said, everyone seems to agree that your happiness in med school is by far and above the biggest factor determining how well you'll do both during med school and beyond.
 
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People will say that the name of your med school doesn't make a huge difference when it comes to applying for residency, just like they say that the name of your undergrad doesn't make a huge difference when applying to med school.

If the second of these statements were true, though, why was it that over half the people I met on the interview trail came from top 20 universities? Top 20 universities account for a TINY fraction of the applicants, yet a HUGE percentage of the acceptances. Food for thought.

My theory: fancy high schools feed top 20 universities which feed prestigious med schools, so why should I believe that the buck stops there? I glad for the opportunity to enter this portal, even if it's late in the game.

That said, everyone seems to agree that your happiness in med school is by far and above the biggest factor determining how well you'll do both during med school and beyond.

Without going down that road, I think there are a LOT of confounding variables in play regarding what you said, but nonetheless, I think you could make the argument that going to a prestigious medical school can only help. Now the question is, is Georgetown considered a prestigious medical school, and if so, how much money would that be worth...
 
Yeah, as said above, the most important thing is that you go to a school where you feel comfortable and confident that you can do well in their program. That being said, if you judge how good a med school is by where they send their graduates for residencies, Georgetown is hard to beat. If you want options nationally, this school matches people across the entire country and at most of the top notch programs in a multitude of residencies. Even a lot of your awesome top notch state schools don't have matches like this. If you rank by US news research, eh, Georgetown is good but nothing too "standoutish", however, their methodology is concerning so I would consider it but wouldn't over emphasize it. If options and the ability to go anywhere in the country is what you are looking for in a school, this school will provide the means to get you there that a lot of other "better ranked" programs won't.
 
Yeah, as said above, the most important thing is that you go to a school where you feel comfortable and confident that you can do well in their program. That being said, if you judge how good a med school is by where they send their graduates for residencies, Georgetown is hard to beat. If you want options nationally, this school matches people across the entire country and at most of the top notch programs in a multitude of residencies. Even a lot of your awesome top notch state schools don't have matches like this. If you rank by US news research, eh, Georgetown is good but nothing too "standoutish", however, their methodology is concerning so I would consider it but wouldn't over emphasize it. If options and the ability to go anywhere in the country is what you are looking for in a school, this school will provide the means to get you there that a lot of other "better ranked" programs won't.

👍
 
I really liked Georgetown, and I too am from the Northwest. I didn't like my "state school" at all after talking to some students there, and decided to not even interview, even though its considered one of the best schools in the country. Didn't feel like they cared about their students or anything. Downside: Georgetown means HUGE debt load compared with what I would get at other places. Still, I felt like here they actually wanted me, as opposed to other places that tried to make it come off as them being too good for me.

I'm not sure where I will end up yet, but I really liked Georgetown. Now if I can only find some way to afford it...

On that note, does anyone know what kind of scholarships they give out if any?
 
Accepted today!
Interviewed mid-late Jan.

Also interested in what kinds of scholarships they give out... does anyone know about this??
 
Yeah, I'm definitely going here even though it will cost me 150k more than my state school, but I do have extenuating circumstances for this that further make the choice to go here easier. Bottom line, I liked this program so much and agree that they take a genuine interest in their students. They certainly treated us better on interview day than at a lot of other places and were anything but "stuck up". In this economy, and any other for that matter, this cost difference is a huge issue. I guess everyone has to weigh the pros and cons and figure out for themselves what the best decision will be, which will probably be different for a lot of people and that's okay. Good luck to everyone who has tough decisions to make! I hope we all make the right ones...:xf: decisions are always a good thing though 🙂
 
I pretty much have the same reasons as everyone else for choosing GU over my state school. I'm from NJ so my state schools aren't exactly a bargain either, so the price difference isn't ridiculously dramatic. I also just got the best overall feel from Georgetown - it seems like the program really matches my interests and what I want to get out of med school, and I think I will do well with the curriculum. Since I'm not really sure what specialty I want to go into, it's definitely reassuring to see such diversity in the match list.

According to my interviewer, both NJ and CA are pretty overrepresented at GUSOM, so I figure I can't be too wrong if a lot of other people have made the same choice..
 
So I will be seeing you guys at second look day, but I was wondering (for those who have gotten into their in state schools) how much are you concerned about the debt?

do you think there are benefits to going to GT versus a state school...


I'm probably going to use the Air Force to pay for school, so the more expensive the school, the better: I'm not getting my time's worth if I go to a cheap school. I'm from Colorado and they are very focused on primary care but I'm leaning towards specializing in surgery, so GT's match list is sucking me in. Plus, I'd be fun for my wife to run around DC (rather than Denver) while I am spending endless hours with all of you, studying until we all pass out from exhaustion. It's gonna be great!😀
 
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Thanks for the input everybody. I guess I cant really make a decision until I find out how much my state and GT will cost in the end (if there is any scholarship, need or merit based) but as of now it looks like a difference of about $80,000. I am pretty sure I want to go into surgery, possibly general or orthopedic. So I am not sure how big of a deal 80 G's will be in the future.

The other thing I have been thinking about is whether I have any advantage when it comes to going into ortho, if I decide to go to GT. I know they have good match statistics but is that because of the school or the merit of students (which I guess could be a function of the school) and University at Buffalo seems good too...

On another note, does anyone remember what the class schedule is like at GT, like 9-5 everyday or just mornings, etc...
 
I'm probably going to use the Air Force to pay for school, so the more expensive the school, the better: I'm not getting my time's worth if I go to a cheap school. I'm from Colorado and they are very focused on primary care but I'm leaning towards specializing in surgery, so GT's match list is sucking me in. Plus, I'd be fun for my wife to run around DC (rather than Denver) while I am spending endless hours with all of you, studying until we all pass out from exhaustion. It's gonna be great!😀


I'm glad someone else got the "primary care or bust" vibe from Colorado. It means I wasn't just reading too much into things. Colorado is my other choice, so I am trying to decide between that and Georgetown. Still, Denver isn't a bad city, and their football team is WAAAAAY better than the Redskins.

I'll ask again: does ANYONE know ANYTHING about what kind of financial aid scholarships/etc they possibly have? Military isn't an option for me like it is for rakotomazoto, although I would if I could. I just don't want to be in debt for the rest of my life.
 
do you guys know if Gtown accepts more than one update letter?

Thanx
 
Who can comment on the daily schedule of M1's at Gtown...?

VCU is basically 9 to 1PM something like that at least...

I think (but I'm not sure) that Gtown is more of an all day thing - comments??

By the way, for what it's worth (and I hope that tuition is worth something), I'm definitely headed to Gtown - so it will be good to meet all of you...😀
 
This was brought up earlier in the thread. Basically we have class from 8or9-12or1 everyday then we may have classes in the afternoon from like 2-4. I think it depends on the day/week and the later classes are more health care related like "physician patient communication" and "service learning".
Who can comment on the daily schedule of M1's at Gtown...?

VCU is basically 9 to 1PM something like that at least...

I think (but I'm not sure) that Gtown is more of an all day thing - comments??

By the way, for what it's worth (and I hope that tuition is worth something), I'm definitely headed to Gtown - so it will be good to meet all of you...😀
 
I interviewed in November, waitlisted in December, do you think it's too late for an update letter?
 
I interviewed in November, waitlisted in December, do you think it's too late for an update letter?

They might think it's a bit odd that you waited over two months, but on the other hand, if something changed between then and now and you genuinely want to attend Georgetown now, it can only help.
 
Did anyone notice the giant match list map in the hallway? Does it seem like most of the pins remain in the region (DC/MD/VA)considering that a large portion of the class isn't from the East Coast originally?

Well isn't that common for most schools? Most people go into residencies that are close to the med school. Besides, I just counted all the DC/MD/VA residents for 2009 and it came out to 72/220. About 50 of those were those who went right back into the GU hospital. On the other hand, about 50 ended up in CA/OR/WA.
 
i counted like 23 people who matched into a california residency. it ended being like 11.5% of last year's class. i guess that's no so bad.
 
Does anyone know if they have a more definite schedule for the Second Look day? I am trying to plan out the day transportation-wise.
 
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