2009-2010 Stony Brook Application Thread

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Has anyone received their financial aid package yet? When should we be expecting??

Thanks
 
AudiFan said:
Has anyone received their financial aid package yet? When should we be expecting??

Thanks
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I think it is completely ridiculous that Stony has not sent out any financial aid packages.

Second look was not that amazing.

My opinion of the medical school has changed.
 
Fishulous said:
yea thanks for your help, im trying to retain my optimism. Currently I'm on three waitlists and am about to become a reapplicant...so that optimism thing is getting progressively more and more elusive...plus i loooove stony~🙄
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Hey, I'm in the EXACT same boat (Nova and NYCOM are my other 2 waitlists) and Stony Brook is my absolute top choice... I'm keeping my fingers crossed we'll both be at Stony Brook this fall!!! And like others have been saying, May 15 is just around the corner so let's stay optimistic. :luck:
 
LIDO said:
I think it is completely ridiculous that Stony has not sent out any financial aid packages.

Second look was not that amazing.

My opinion of the medical school has changed.
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I don't think they sent out financial aid packages before May 15 last year. But as a state school you can basically assume that all you'll be getting is loans. It's still pretty competitively priced nonetheless.

Out of curiosity why didn't you think second look was "amazing"?
 
skinMD said:
I don't think they sent out financial aid packages before May 15 last year. But as a state school you can basically assume that all you'll be getting is loans. It's still pretty competitively priced nonetheless.

Out of curiosity why didn't you think second look was "amazing"?
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i think it still depends on the school though. downstate gave me $8000 per year and stony gave me only loans. but i picked stony anyway partly because i'm superficial and stony is ranked higher on US news than DS. :laugh:
 
skinMD said:
I don't think they sent out financial aid packages before May 15 last year. But as a state school you can basically assume that all you'll be getting is loans. It's still pretty competitively priced nonetheless.

Out of curiosity why didn't you think second look was "amazing"?
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I agree second look was not that amazing. I was expecting more... I still like stonybrook though and will be attending.
 
I called the admission office today to ask them if there has been any waitlist movement and I was told that due to a high no. of applicants they made the HP list which is different from the waitlist . And applicants in the HP list will be given priority than the general waitlist. I also asked the lady if interview date mattered because on this forum I noticed that people who interviewd late in the season are receiving emails about HP list but she didnt know anything about that. I interviewed in November and was waitlisted in december. Also when I went there for my interview nobody mentioned about the HP list so Im assuming it was done later this year...not sure...Just thought of posting this to clear confusions about the HP list and waitlist !! Now that I know this ..I dont have hopes but lets see...good luck to everyone!
 
gingko said:
I called the admission office today to ask them if there has been any waitlist movement and I was told that due to a high no. of applicants they made the HP list which is different from the waitlist . And applicants in the HP list will be given priority than the general waitlist. I also asked the lady if interview date mattered because on this forum I noticed that people who interviewd late in the season are receiving emails about HP list but she didnt know anything about that. I interviewed in November and was waitlisted in december. Also when I went there for my interview nobody mentioned about the HP list so Im assuming it was done later this year...not sure...Just thought of posting this to clear confusions about the HP list and waitlist !! Now that I know this ..I dont have hopes but lets see...good luck to everyone!
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This information makes no sense. Why would they form a new list just because there were a lot of applicants? They still interview the same amount of applicants as far as I know. Why would the gross number effect the waitlist?
 
softmed said:
This information makes no sense. Why would they form a new list just because there were a lot of applicants? They still interview the same amount of applicants as far as I know. Why would the gross number effect the waitlist?
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Well this is what the lady told me. She told me since they had more applicants it was getting more difficult and confusing. And to avoid that they reactivated the HP list which they use to have it 10 years back or smth..And it may not make sense bc we dont get all the info and how they do it so I really cant say much...
 
Based on what I have read on the forum, I think this is what has happened:

They interviewed the same amt of ppl, gave out acceptances... and realized that everyone was holding their acceptance.

People who interviewed late... some of them scored well enough on the interview to get an acceptance, but they could not give them an acceptance because there were too many acceptances outstanding.

Those people became the HP waitlist.

I don't think that anyone has gotten bumped up form waitlist to high priority waitlist.

so it kind of looks like ppl who made it to the general waitlist scored something on the interview that merits reg waitlist... and ppl who are on the HP are ppl stony would normally have accepted.

that is my best guess.
 
skinMD said:
I don't think they sent out financial aid packages before May 15 last year. But as a state school you can basically assume that all you'll be getting is loans. It's still pretty competitively priced nonetheless.

Out of curiosity why didn't you think second look was "amazing"?
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My personal feedback / opinion of the second look:

The day started out with the dean welcoming the class. His speech was not prepared, not invigorating, and lacked insight. I was disappointed.

The presentations were not focused. NO ACTIVITIES to meet other students besides lunch....no sport games, social hour, greet/meet.

They spent a ton of time in the stimulation clinic....I heard as medical students we don't touch those stimulation bodies all too much.

Stony Brook medical was recently ranked as one of the TOP medical schools for the most unhappy faculty/teachers. The article is located in Newsday for viewing..... subscription is needed so the link will not be posted. I brought this article up at lunch and the medical students gave me a total BS explanation.

I still think Stony is a good medical school.....but probably not the best school for me.
 
LIDO said:
My personal feedback / opinion of the second look:

The day started out with the dean welcoming the class. His speech was not prepared, not invigorating, and lacked insight. I was disappointed.

The presentations were not focused. NO ACTIVITIES to meet other students besides lunch....no sport games, social hour, greet/meet.

They spent a ton of time in the stimulation clinic....I heard as medical students we don't touch those stimulation bodies all too much.

Stony Brook medical was recently ranked as one of the TOP medical schools for the most unhappy faculty/teachers. The article is located in Newsday for viewing..... subscription is needed so the link will not be posted. I brought this article up at lunch and the medical students gave me a total BS explanation.

I still think Stony is a good medical school.....but probably not the best school for me.
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ya...stony brook sux0rs. don't come here. to cope with the boredom i started a stony SOM starcraft 2 league. anyone?
 
LIDO said:
Stony Brook medical was recently ranked as one of the TOP medical schools for the most unhappy faculty/teachers. The article is located in Newsday for viewing..... subscription is needed so the link will not be posted. I brought this article up at lunch and the medical students gave me a total BS explanation.
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Was their BS explanation something along the lines of, "rankings are stupid and meaningless"? Because that doesn't sound like BS to me.
 
Sorry if this has been asked, I looked through the thread but didn't find anything. Are there people that live very off campus, like closer to the city? I may be living with my girlfriend, and she'd be commuting into Connecticut. Some sort of compromise would be nice...
 
imnastywitit said:
Based on what I have read on the forum, I think this is what has happened:

They interviewed the same amt of ppl, gave out acceptances... and realized that everyone was holding their acceptance.

People who interviewed late... some of them scored well enough on the interview to get an acceptance, but they could not give them an acceptance because there were too many acceptances outstanding.

Those people became the HP waitlist.

I don't think that anyone has gotten bumped up form waitlist to high priority waitlist.

so it kind of looks like ppl who made it to the general waitlist scored something on the interview that merits reg waitlist... and ppl who are on the HP are ppl stony would normally have accepted.

that is my best guess.
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I think I interviewed the last day of interviews, and if not the last day then pretty close to the end. Someone specifically said at the interview day, "You are not interviewing for the waitlist, we have n amount of acceptances to give out and we've only given out y of them, so we have plenty more to hand out." I don't remember any of the actual numbers though. But it definitely was enough for all of us to feel relieved. So unless she was just not telling the truth, this can't be the case.
 
softmed said:
Was their BS explanation something along the lines of, "rankings are stupid and meaningless"? Because that doesn't sound like BS to me.
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Why is this "ranking" stupid? It was a SURVEY given to the faculty/teachers at the medical school. On the survey the faculty/teachers at Stony ranked themselves as being the unhappiest. I am sure that misery will trickles down to the student body. Not just a "stupid" ranking.

The BS explanation was something totally irrelevant. The medical students claimed that, "living on Long Island makes you miserable, and therefore the medical teachers at Stony are unhappy." Ummm....the survey was not about living on Long Island....it was about working at Stony. Plus, you can tell the medical students were clearly uncomfortable and avoiding the question.

Makes me think twice about the school.
 
Ok2Panic said:
I think I interviewed the last day of interviews, and if not the last day then pretty close to the end. Someone specifically said at the interview day, "You are not interviewing for the waitlist, we have n amount of acceptances to give out and we've only given out y of them, so we have plenty more to hand out." I don't remember any of the actual numbers though. But it definitely was enough for all of us to feel relieved. So unless she was just not telling the truth, this can't be the case.
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I interviewed in February, and from the spiel i got, it seemed that we were already essentially interviewing for a waitlist. They may give out x number of acceptances overall each year but they had already given out more acceptances than spots in the class. So yes by the end of the year they hand out x acceptances, but I think that number is dependent on how many people decline their offers first....

i guess my theory doesnt work if they over accept their class size.
 
LIDO said:
Why is this "ranking" stupid? It was a SURVEY given to the faculty/teachers at the medical school. On the survey the faculty/teachers at Stony ranked themselves as being the unhappiest. I am sure that misery will trickles down to the student body. Not just a "stupid" ranking.

The BS explanation was something totally irrelevant. The medical students claimed that, "living on Long Island makes you miserable, and therefore the medical teachers at Stony are unhappy." Ummm....the survey was not about living on Long Island....it was about working at Stony. Plus, you can tell the medical students were clearly uncomfortable and avoiding the question.

Makes me think twice about the school.
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http://www.newsday.com/news/health/survey-low-job-satisfaction-at-stony-brook-med-school-1.1842668

What I mean is that surveys are notoriously unreliable, especially among small populations like medical colleges. Next year for all we know Stony Brook could end up the happiest medical school in the United States just because of a few outliers. And it doesn't say Stony Brook is ranked at the bottom, it says it was near the bottom in several categories.

If surveys are unreliable, the news' sensationalism makes newspapers even more unreliable. In fact, I would rank local newspapers as one of the most unreliable sources possible. Newspapers need to sell subscriptions and it wouldn't surprise me if they were making it sound like unhappiness is far worse than it actually is. Maybe past the first two paragraphs they gave us some perspective, and some facts and figures, but unfortunately I can't read that since I have no subscription.

Some questions I want answered: How much lower are they ranked in the categories? How does this compare to other years (is this just an odd year)? Historically, how reliable are the surveys? What is their response rate? What is their sample size? These things are extremely important when deciding whether to take a poll serious or not.

I'm not some Stony Brook student/faculty/etc--I'm on the waitlist and I'm thinking it's not likely that I'll be accepted. It's not my number one choice, although I would love to go here. I'm just trying to get the facts straight.
 
robobjj said:
I interviewed in February, and from the spiel i got, it seemed that we were already essentially interviewing for a waitlist. They may give out x number of acceptances overall each year but they had already given out more acceptances than spots in the class. So yes by the end of the year they hand out x acceptances, but I think that number is dependent on how many people decline their offers first....

i guess my theory doesnt work if they over accept their class size.
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i mean... at this point... we've all gotten conflicting answers. when i asked the admissions person if they overaccept, her answer was 'absolutely'.

When i asked her and the dean, in person, if i could know my place on the waitlist they said absolutely not.

I do know from my sources that the stony waitlist moves every year, between a little and a moderate amount.

The real question is: are they even going to make it past the HP list? are they even going to consider the regular waitlist before the HP list has been exhausted?

also it really depends on how many ppl are holding acceptances. so its all really hard to say. if there are only like 10 ppl on the hp list... then i could see them getting thru it... but 50? idk. 50 on the hp list and then another 300 on the WL is just a ton of people, and apparently it is ranked but update letters 'are considered'.
 
mcgyver said:
ya...stony brook sux0rs. don't come here. to cope with the boredom i started a stony SOM starcraft 2 league. anyone?
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Lol if I get in Ill play...just share a beta key and o wait...the getting in part...that's tops right now.
 
jimgard said:
Sorry if this has been asked, I looked through the thread but didn't find anything. Are there people that live very off campus, like closer to the city? I may be living with my girlfriend, and she'd be commuting into Connecticut. Some sort of compromise would be nice...
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living near the ferry would be a good compromise depending on how far away from the ferry landing in connecticut your girlfriend would have to be commuting, though she can take her car onto the ferry: http://www.bpjferry.com/
 
can anyone at stony brook speak about the general weekly structure of classes during the first two years? how much of it is required stuff, and how much of it can you just watch after the fact?
 
first semester, you have anatomy lab from about 1 to 4ish mon, tues, wed, and fri. in the morning on those days, you have biochem lecture from 930-1130. there are clicker questions that count as part of your grade in biochem, so the vast majority of people go to that (as well as to anatomy lab). thursdays are devoted to our "how to be a good doctor" class...the majority of that is mandatory, but not all of it is. often in the afternoon, you will have a session either at the clinical skills center or your clinical site. second semester is more of a mixture of mandatory and non-mandatory. there are maybe five classes (or sometimes more, but rarely less) or so a week that are mandatory...but this varies a lot from class to class. the same holds for second year. depending on the system, there may be something mandatory everyday or nothing mandatory for the whole class...there is generally class from 830-1130 and 1-3.
 
skinMD said:
living near the ferry would be a good compromise depending on how far away from the ferry landing in connecticut your girlfriend would have to be commuting, though she can take her car onto the ferry: http://www.bpjferry.com/
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Thanks, I looked into the ferry. It seems like a good option, except it's very expensive...
 
codenamekris said:
first semester, you have anatomy lab from about 1 to 4ish mon, tues, wed, and fri. in the morning on those days, you have biochem lecture from 930-1130. there are clicker questions that count as part of your grade in biochem, so the vast majority of people go to that (as well as to anatomy lab). thursdays are devoted to our "how to be a good doctor" class...the majority of that is mandatory, but not all of it is. often in the afternoon, you will have a session either at the clinical skills center or your clinical site. second semester is more of a mixture of mandatory and non-mandatory. there are maybe five classes (or sometimes more, but rarely less) or so a week that are mandatory...but this varies a lot from class to class. the same holds for second year. depending on the system, there may be something mandatory everyday or nothing mandatory for the whole class...there is generally class from 830-1130 and 1-3.
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At least I get lunchtime =) I've had to eat lunch in lectures this past year b/c I squished all my classes in a few days. :laugh:
 
Batzmarucy831 said:
At least I get lunchtime =) I've had to eat lunch in lectures this past year b/c I squished all my classes in a few days. :laugh:
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a lot of people ended up finding ways to not go to lectures anyway.
 
mcgyver said:
a lot of people ended up finding ways to not go to lectures anyway.
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I think my senioritis may carry over. I dunno if I can get back into my freshman mode again. Well aren't notes posted online anyway on this fancy system?
 
everyone takes turns writing up notes for lectures...audio and video are also posted online.
 
So who is gonna be 'that guy' who calls in once a week to ask if wailist has moved? I'm not gonna do it... I don't have the guts to do it lol.

But from previous years threads... there always is that one person lolz.

anywho, if any of you do call to ask... be sure to post on here if the waitlist has moved 😉.
 
imnastywitit said:
So who is gonna be 'that guy' who calls in once a week to ask if wailist has moved? I'm not gonna do it... I don't have the guts to do it lol.

But from previous years threads... there always is that one person lolz.

anywho, if any of you do call to ask... be sure to post on here if the waitlist has moved 😉.
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High priority list has moved!!!! I got an acceptance this morning!!!!!!!!!! Good luck fellow waitlisters
 
lil said:
High priority list has moved!!!! I got an acceptance this morning!!!!!!!!!! Good luck fellow waitlisters
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Congrats! That's like a shining beacon of hope for the rest of us... or I'm a total optimist.
 
thats awesome!!

are you gonna attend??

one thing i wana ask that has been asked a bunch of times on here: has anyone been promoted from the WL to the high priority WL? did anyone get HPWL before say feb??? maybe some of us were promoted w/o being told?? hmm...
 
lil said:
High priority list has moved!!!! I got an acceptance this morning!!!!!!!!!! Good luck fellow waitlisters
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Hey lil, how did you get your acceptance. Call? Email? Snail mail? Express mail?
 
abcd54321 said:
Hey lil, how did you get your acceptance. Call? Email? Snail mail? Express mail?
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they called me, but i didn't have service so they left me a message to call them back ASAP. also, ms. acevedo emailed me the same day telling me to call them.
 
imnastywitit said:
thats awesome!!

are you gonna attend??

one thing i wana ask that has been asked a bunch of times on here: has anyone been promoted from the WL to the high priority WL? did anyone get HPWL before say feb??? maybe some of us were promoted w/o being told?? hmm...
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I called and they told me that "no students will move from WL to HPL, it doesnt work that way".....once all the students are accepted off the HPL..WL students will be contacted. (hearing this I almost lost all hopes) But the she told me that they expect to see WL movement began in mid june!! so maybe there is a little hope..
 
Yeah i thought Mary would be on top of this already... Did you sumbit your Fafsa?
 
mercy82 said:
Yeah i thought Mary would be on top of this already... Did you sumbit your Fafsa?
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i don't like to say negative things about my own school but stony brook financial aid is really slow. i think most of us did not receive aid until july.
 
mercy82 said:
Yeah i thought Mary would be on top of this already... Did you sumbit your Fafsa?
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I submitted my FAFSA back in March, and soon afterwards, I sent in the institutional forms. I have not heard since though. From other forums, I'm assuming we'll be having pretty much all loans. My only concern is the MPN gets through, since I took out some loans for college.
 
I know this is gonna throw a wrench into all of the waitlist theories that are floating around here... but I was just accepted and was not on the HP list! I did send updates of my status and reaffirmed my desire to attend, maybe that helped me out a bit. Anyways I'm off to celebrate, see you in the fall!

And about that SC2 league, count me in 🙂
 
lumanistic said:
I know this is gonna throw a wrench into all of the waitlist theories that are floating around here... but I was just accepted and was not on the HP list! I did send updates of my status and reaffirmed my desire to attend, maybe that helped me out a bit. Anyways I'm off to celebrate, see you in the fall!

And about that SC2 league, count me in 🙂
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Congrats man!!!. See you at second look? what is the SC2 league
 
lumanistic said:
I know this is gonna throw a wrench into all of the waitlist theories that are floating around here... but I was just accepted and was not on the HP list! I did send updates of my status and reaffirmed my desire to attend, maybe that helped me out a bit. Anyways I'm off to celebrate, see you in the fall!

And about that SC2 league, count me in 🙂
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pm me your email i'll send you a google doc of current players :laugh:
 
lumanistic said:
I know this is gonna throw a wrench into all of the waitlist theories that are floating around here... but I was just accepted and was not on the HP list! I did send updates of my status and reaffirmed my desire to attend, maybe that helped me out a bit. Anyways I'm off to celebrate, see you in the fall!

And about that SC2 league, count me in 🙂
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Congrats! if you don't mind can you please share when you were interviewed/waitlisted. are u IS?
ps I hope i get in though im rather terrible at sc...:laugh:
 
I got accepted today and I also was just on the regular waitlist. I have not really sent them anything since my interview, so anyone can still get in. I have been putting things in motion to go to Jefferson in Philly so now I am really confused. Stony brook is half the price of Jefferson once you get in state tuition. Any thoughts?
 
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