2009-2010 University of Minnesota (Twin Cities) Application Thread

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Bdwy said:
i just submitted my secondary app two weeks ago...30N, bcpm 3.5, but i'm an international student...any thoughts about to my chances of an interview???
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Here is some number for you:

during 2009 cycle, internetional student applied: 222, interviewed: 12, matriculated: 3
 
Bdwy said:
i just submitted my secondary app two weeks ago...30N, bcpm 3.5, but i'm an international student...any thoughts about to my chances of an interview???
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I'm an international, and am interviewing in two days, but I have been complete since Nov... I will just say, it's tough applying as an international student since you are considered an OOS at every school, and only schools where that status doesn't matter are highly competitive private schools such as Ivy League schools. I have no idea about your chance, but I did have 36Q and 34R with ~3.8 BCPM. I think your stats aren't that bad, but the adcom might not look so favorably on your writing unless you have a good verbal score. For international students, they do want to know that you have a good command of the English language. All that said, you never know. I had absolutely no ties to Minnesota, and didn't even expect an interview here, but I did get the invite, so you never know.
And if things do not work out this cycle, you can always try to better prepare yourself and apply again. That's what I did, and it's looking better this time around. So, hang in there, and good luck.

On another note, anyone interviewing this Thursday (Jan 28th) going to the coffee hour? For those of you who have already interviewed and went to the coffee hour the night before your interview, how was it?
 
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Coffee hourwas a good time, very informative, and very relaxed. Go if you can, but you wont be missing out on anything if you missed it.

- By the way anyone going to make a facebook group soon? I'd love to help out.
 
Tutmos said:
Thanks, I feel better now with a 32. 😉
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I wouldn't mind if you lowered it another point, then I'd be average... And you'd be ABOVE average. Sounds like a good deal to me...
 
I just called the admissions office and they told me I'm going to be reviewed on Feb. 3rd. I interviewed on Nov. 12th and since I did not get a call friday I was really nervous that a rejection letter was on the way. So relieved! 🙂
 
Moogle Man said:
We all know who you are now. BWA HA HA! Kidding. Thanks for making the group.
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Well in theory you would all know next year anyway ;0)
I really don't care if people know my stats, so it's fine either way

And no prob, I figured I had the extra 5 minutes it took to make the group. I was thinking of making it "Entering Class of 2010" so all the Flex program people would feel loved, but all the other U of MN-Med groups had the other wording so I went with "tradition" 😛

Do people want like info about housing posted on the group? Or just for fun? Any specific info? Let me know!
 
Bdwy said:
i just submitted my secondary app two weeks ago...30N, bcpm 3.5, but i'm an international student...any thoughts about to my chances of an interview???
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I am an international student, and went to the U. Got a 28M (verbal :beat:) and have a 3.78 BCMP/ 3.75 overall. I interviewed at the end of December after being done with my secondary in November. Haven't heard anything yet as Dean White said that they were going to look at every intl students they interviewed before deciding which ones they would pick for the three (I am not sure about this, apparently it has changed) spots; he said sometime around April. You already submitted yours so it's just a matter of waiting now, but in November, I asked around at the school and they had ~290 intl students who applied. Last year they had ~222 and only interviewed 12, a 5% chance...Applying this late did reduce your chance, but lots of other stuff beyond your numbers goes into the selection! At this point, your chances are less than 4-5%...
 
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ChoSanah said:
I am an international student, and went to the U. Got a 28M (verbal :beat:) and have a 3.78 BCMP/ 3.75 overall. I interviewed at the end of December after being done with my secondary in November. Haven't heard anything yet as Dean White said that they were going to look at every intl students they interviewed before deciding which ones they would pick for the three (I am not sure about this, apparently it has changed) spots; he said sometime around April. You already submitted yours so it's just a matter of waiting now, but in November, I asked around at the school and they had ~290 intl students who applied. Last year they had ~222 and only interviewed 12, a 5% chance...Applying this late did reduce your chance, but lots of other stuff beyond your numbers goes into the selection! At this point, your chances are less than 4-5%...
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They have exactly 3 spots for intl students? Interesting... I didn't know they had a specific # pre-determined for the number of spots available for intl students. Suddenly not feeling so hot about my chances. Interview tomorrow... And I definitely don't like that they are gonna wait till Apr to look at my app....🙄
 
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gte770m said:
They have exactly 3 spots for intl students? Interesting... I didn't know they had a specific # pre-determined for the number of spots available for intl students. Suddenly not feeling so hot about my chances. Interview tomorrow... And I definitely don't like that they are gonna wait till Apr to look at my app....🙄
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It might have been bumped up to six for this year, I am not sure. The number of matriculants in the previous years has been three though.
 
ChoSanah said:
It might have been bumped up to six for this year, I am not sure. The number of matriculants in the previous years has been three though.
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If 12 ppl are interviewed for 6 spots, I would be very happy and relieved. From what I've seen and heard today, I absolutely love this place! But, I guess if they bumped up the number of spots, they are probably interviewing more ppl, too.

I guess I'll find out more tomorrow.
 
I don't see any reason they'd increase the number of international slots if the class size isn't changing much. That would mean they're excluding more state / US residents to do so. That's pretty amazing to get an interview with a 28 as an international student.
 
During my interview day, Dean White said he made the case for 6 last year because those particular students had strong ties to Minnesota.
 
gte770m said:
If 12 ppl are interviewed for 6 spots, I would be very happy and relieved. From what I've seen and heard today, I absolutely love this place! But, I guess if they bumped up the number of spots, they are probably interviewing more ppl, too.

I guess I'll find out more tomorrow.
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Good luck! They got more intl students this year too, so that might have been another reason.

Tutmos said:
I don't see any reason they'd increase the number of international slots if the class size isn't changing much. That would mean they're excluding more state / US residents to do so. That's pretty amazing to get an interview with a 28 as an international student.
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Lucky me, I guess!
 
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Is there a published stat for interview vs. invite percentage posted anywhere? I found number of interviews for 2009 entering class but not the number of invites, only matriculants.


Edit: Nevermind,found it earlier in the thread. I'm a bit surprised, almost a 50% acceptance rate for those interviewed.
 
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Great place! I really liked it today. Interview was looooooong (~90min), but not at all stressful. I got only one tough question at the end to which I gave a high-risk answer even before realizing what I had done, but it turned out the interviewer completely agreed with me somehow...
Everything about the school was great... except it's really crowded...
 
gte770m said:
Great place! I really liked it today. Interview was looooooong (~90min), but not at all stressful. I got only one tough question at the end to which I gave a high-risk answer even before realizing what I had done, but it turned out the interviewer completely agreed with me somehow...
Everything about the school was great... except it's really crowded...
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Please do tell. What was this high risk answer and what was the question?
 
gte770m said:
I'm an international, and am interviewing in two days, but I have been complete since Nov... I will just say, it's tough applying as an international student since you are considered an OOS at every school, and only schools where that status doesn't matter are highly competitive private schools such as Ivy League schools. I have no idea about your chance, but I did have 36Q and 34R with ~3.8 BCPM. I think your stats aren't that bad, but the adcom might not look so favorably on your writing unless you have a good verbal score. For international students, they do want to know that you have a good command of the English language. All that said, you never know. I had absolutely no ties to Minnesota, and didn't even expect an interview here, but I did get the invite, so you never know.
And if things do not work out this cycle, you can always try to better prepare yourself and apply again. That's what I did, and it's looking better this time around. So, hang in there, and good luck.

On another note, anyone interviewing this Thursday (Jan 28th) going to the coffee hour? For those of you who have already interviewed and went to the coffee hour the night before your interview, how was it?
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thanks for the reply. that's what i was thinking. it'll just be a pain going through everything again if i have to reapply.

anyhow, you have excellent stats. glad to hear the interview went well. about the high risk answer, maybe the interviewer appreciated you being yourself and giving an original answer that wasn't safe.
 
also what did you mean by the school being crowded? do you mean the med school or the whole campus in general?
 
The school seemed really crowded because everyone was indoors. Huge student population all walking around underground makes it for a very crowded scene.

As for the question and perhaps not-so-wise answer, the interviewer asked what I thought was the greatest challenge for our generation (doesn't have to be a medical issue). I didn't even pause for long or think deeply, and said I thought the prevalence of moral relativism was the greatest challenge because I think it reduces human life to a senseless, mindless, random game in which nothing can be called good, fortunate, bad or evil. He and I did not have the same religious affiliation (in fact he was agnostic, I think), but we kinda had follow-up discussion about that answer, and ended up talking about different religions, historic events, distortion of different religions and so on.

Maybe some people may not see these as a tough question or high-risk answer, but I think had my interviewer been an atheist or someone with a very relativistic world view, it could have been a disaster, I think.
 
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rejected today. pre-interview. OOS so it's not a big shock. But at least now I can tell my bf he owes me the app fee since he was the one wanting me to apply there! haha:meanie:
 
Sometimes, as pre-med students we get so wrapped up in the whole process and don't take time to look at the world around us. We get so anxious and antsy and think, "what the heck is wrong with the review committee!!! Why haven't they gotten back to me!! It's been TWELVE weeks!" Unfortunately, one of the people that sits on the review committee lost her son this fall (to cancer I believe). All makes sense now uh? So while it's so hard to wait (nearly impossible actually) there is a reason...
 
sarahjane2 said:
Sometimes, as pre-med students we get so wrapped up in the whole process and don't take time to look at the world around us. We get so anxious and antsy and think, "what the heck is wrong with the review committee!!! Why haven't they gotten back to me!! It's been TWELVE weeks!" Unfortunately, one of the people that sits on the review committee lost her son this fall (to cancer I believe). All makes sense now uh? So while it's so hard to wait (nearly impossible actually) there is a reason...
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Thank you for the post.👍
 
sarahjane2 said:
Sometimes, as pre-med students we get so wrapped up in the whole process and don't take time to look at the world around us. We get so anxious and antsy and think, "what the heck is wrong with the review committee!!! Why haven't they gotten back to me!! It's been TWELVE weeks!" Unfortunately, one of the people that sits on the review committee lost her son this fall (to cancer I believe). All makes sense now uh? So while it's so hard to wait (nearly impossible actually) there is a reason...
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You can't really put all of the "lateness" on this incident. If you read past years' threads, the U is infamous for lags and a general slow pace. If this were the only year people were waiting so long, then yes, that would be an incredibly valid excuse.

The entire U is like this, though, not just undergrad. They don't set tuition for the fall until a meeting in July, so in August EVERYONE is trying to get financial aid figured out. It took me over a year to get a biology minor added and only got added then because I started a calling/e-mailing campaign. I guess when the med school does not even send secondaries out until September or whatever, it should be expected that there will be a longer wait.

Thank you for sharing this information, though!
 
sassilysweet said:
You can't really put all of the "lateness" on this incident. If you read past years' threads, the U is infamous for lags and a general slow pace. If this were the only year people were waiting so long, then yes, that would be an incredibly valid excuse.

The entire U is like this, though, not just undergrad. They don't set tuition for the fall until a meeting in July, so in August EVERYONE is trying to get financial aid figured out. It took me over a year to get a biology minor added and only got added then because I started a calling/e-mailing campaign. I guess when the med school does not even send secondaries out until September or whatever, it should be expected that there will be a longer wait.

Thank you for sharing this information, though!
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Sorry!! I totally meant to put their infamous "lateness" as a qualifier in my post and completely forgot. You're absolutely right...I didn't know about the whole financial aid situation before now. That's frustrating!!
 
sarahjane2 said:
Sorry!! I totally meant to put their infamous "lateness" as a qualifier in my post and completely forgot. You're absolutely right...I didn't know about the whole financial aid situation before now. That's frustrating!!
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I think that the medical school is on its own schedule for tuition rates (or at least Dean White seemed confident it would be what was listed), so hopefully we won't have to deal with this sort of financial aid situation for next fall, but it was incredibly frustrating when I attended full/half-time the last year and a half, trying to figure out if I needed a private loan to pay for the rest of my bills. The answer I got when I asked about that was,"Well, you don't have to pay tuition until October". Yes, but I need to pay rent in September and October....

Sorry for the rant, there are many great things about the U but I seem to manage to experience all the negatives. Except that I had a friend who's tuition payment was "lost". That never happened to me, at least. 🙄
 
How far in advance of interviews, in days, do they give you the details of time place etc. and final on which day?
 
This place is really expensive for a public medical school. Jesus Christ.
 
Tutmos said:
How far in advance of interviews, in days, do they give you the details of time place etc. and final on which day?
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I got an interview invite one week and replied with my preferred dates and within the next week received my confirmation e-mail with the agenda and whatnot.

I would assume how far in advance you know depends on what dates they have left to interview for. I believe I was invited 10-22 and I think I knew before Halloween that I was interviewing 11-16 (The earliest date offered I think was 11-12).

Hope that helps.
 
For instate, it's like the 2nd most expensive public school in the nation
 
Was there a committee meeting on 2/3? I dont know if I've been reviewed or not. I've received no phone call or news in the mail. I'm assuming that if I was reviewed in the 1/20 meeting that I would have received something by now. Unless rejection/waitlist letters take a while to be mailed :/
 
Hey Amigos -

Did anyone who got interviewed on Dec 3rd 2009 get their results?

Cheers -

Vincent
 
I heard the same about a 2/3 meeting, but have heard nothing on my end. I interviewed 12/3 as well.
 
There was definitely supposed to be a 2/3 committee meeting.

Interviewed 12/10 and still haven't heard anything
 
KingDamascus said:
There was definitely supposed to be a 2/3 committee meeting.

Interviewed 12/10 and still haven't heard anything
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Same interview day here. From the pattern I observed, they usually gave out acceptances the week after the committee meeting. So we should all cross our fingers during Valentine's week:xf::xf::xf:
 
Good luck with a phone call this week. I wouldn't get too bent out of shape if you don't get one though. As I mentioned in another post I'm pretty sure they take people they didn't accept outright into the next meeting and keep doing that. Once you're better than the bottom of the outright accepted group you get the call. If you're still in the group getting moved from meeting to meeting at the end of the season you become the waitlist. What makes one person better than another is the real mystery though.*

*I have no inside knowledge or any reason to know any of this for certain. It seems a reasonable assumption though. 🙂
 
Tutmos said:
Good luck with a phone call this week. I wouldn't get too bent out of shape if you don't get one though. As I mentioned in another post I'm pretty sure they take people they didn't accept outright into the next meeting and keep doing that. Once you're better than the bottom of the outright accepted group you get the call. If you're still in the group getting moved from meeting to meeting at the end of the season you become the waitlist. What makes one person better than another is the real mystery though.*

*I have no inside knowledge or any reason to know any of this for certain. It seems a reasonable assumption though. 🙂
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I don't think this is true, as I understand some people already got waitlist letters
 
Alive and well said:
So here is the new news. When your file is decided on, it either is accepted or waitlisted. Waitlisted notification goes out right away through snail mail. If you are accepted, they don't always call right away because they want your file to go through a "scholarship board" before they call people. I don't know if they always wait on it going through the scholarship board first before notifying people on acceptances, but that was just what the U of M guy just told me.

The next scholarship board is scheduled to meet on Thursday.

Soooo if you were told that your file was decided on, and you don't get a letter in the mail a few days later, you are probably accepted! .... Or so the U of M man says. But I guess we'll still need to wait on that phone call.....
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I knew someone had posted about this before
 
Are you threatening me?


This will be the challenge of being a non-traditional. The odds are quite good that most people will be too young to remember Beavis and Butthead and this line from Cornholio. 😀 People will instead think that I'm upset.

So you think they take more than a month to go through a scholarship board? There appear to be a large number of people in this thread that had an interview at the same time as others, others who have been accepted already for over a month, maybe two. Did the people that heard first not get reviewed for a scholarship? I think my theory better explains the facts that we have on hand and also makes sense that the school would want to maximize the level of students they get without letting some borderline ones off the hook in case they need them at the end. Putting them on a waitlist may push them to another school.

Let's work on finding evidence against my grand theory. :scared:
 
I interviewed 11/5 and have heard NOTHING! Is this good or bad? Any thoughts?
 
PoniNo1 said:
I interviewed 11/5 and have heard NOTHING! Is this good or bad? Any thoughts?
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Hi PoniNo1,

Though I feel for the most part the committee accepts, waitlists, and rejects applicants at the same rate (i.e., candidates that interview around the same date hear back around the same time, regardless of the decision), I tend to believe that they do hold off on making decisions for some applicants. Two years ago, my friend interviewed in January and waited and waited while those that interviewed several months after her heard back. Then she was notified that she was on the waitlist and given position number 3. Seeing as how she was that close to acceptance, I feel the committee was holding back. She was in a gray area so they held onto her application until they came to a decision on how many initial acceptances to give out. She was then accepted right away in June, when the waitlist started to move.

I think you'll hear back soon, but I bet more than a few candidate's applications will be dragged out as such.
 
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