2011-2012 University of Wisconsin Application Thread

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these might be useful to others so if you don't mind i'll ask here. what year are you and what do you like most about the school and city so far?

The school, I really like the curriculum, systems based in the second year. And, during the first year, there is a decent amount of clinical integration with it. I also like being to travel around the state for rotations and see various aspects of healthcare that I would otherwise be unable to see. The culture of the school was also a large draw, very laid back, the staff and faculty take a personal interest in your success. Also, the P/F grading during first year helps with camaraderie, I felt, and also took away the gunner incentive. This attitude largely carried over into second year.

Also, I really liked the fact that the faculty are very supportive in seeing students pursue their own interests, whether through research or MPH, or community service. They are very flexible and helpful in facilitating the pursuit of such interests.

These were all feelings that I did not get from other schools i interviewed at, from the faculty or students I met.

Also, the facilities are new(ish). The school is very self contained with a great library. Its separated from the undergrad campus which is nice.

The city, its a good city to go to school in, though I intend on leaving at the first chance I get. Do my four years here and get out. The biggest positive to the city, in my opinion, is that it is cheap to live in and there is very little traffic. I prefer larger cities to small college towns, but on a student budget this is a great place to be.

Oh, I'm a third year.
 
The school, I really like the curriculum, systems based in the second year. And, during the first year, there is a decent amount of clinical integration with it. I also like being to travel around the state for rotations and see various aspects of healthcare that I would otherwise be unable to see. The culture of the school was also a large draw, very laid back, the staff and faculty take a personal interest in your success. Also, the P/F grading during first year helps with camaraderie, I felt, and also took away the gunner incentive. This attitude largely carried over into second year.

Also, I really liked the fact that the faculty are very supportive in seeing students pursue their own interests, whether through research or MPH, or community service. They are very flexible and helpful in facilitating the pursuit of such interests.

These were all feelings that I did not get from other schools i interviewed at, from the faculty or students I met.

Also, the facilities are new(ish). The school is very self contained with a great library. Its separated from the undergrad campus which is nice.

The city, its a good city to go to school in, though I intend on leaving at the first chance I get. Do my four years here and get out. The biggest positive to the city, in my opinion, is that it is cheap to live in and there is very little traffic. I prefer larger cities to small college towns, but on a student budget this is a great place to be.

Oh, I'm a third year.

looking at your mdapps profile, what made you choose university of wisconsin over your alma mater? timing? wanted to go somewhere new? or something else?
 
looking at your mdapps profile, what made you choose university of wisconsin over your alma mater? timing? wanted to go somewhere new? or something else?

Honestly, the facilities here were a huge draw for me, all new and shiny and such. Also, I just got a better feel from the students ehre that I met. It was definitely a tough decision though. The only other school I was contemplating was SUNY-Stony Brook, which felt a lot like Madison to me, only more suburban which I didn't know was possible... And the didn't do video taping of their lectures at the time, which we do.

So, in essence, I went totally based on feel. I am sure I would have been fine at MN of Stony Brook, or other schools, as far as the education goes, I just liked the feel of UW-Madison more. The faculty are super supportive, they have a vested interest in us succeeding, the student body ismotivated and collegial, and I really like the facilities.
 
Hi guys, I was wondering if anyone knew how OOS friendly UW is (and what they look for in OOS applicants)?

Thanks in advance!
 
Hi guys, I was wondering if anyone knew how OOS friendly UW is (and what they look for in OOS applicants)?

Thanks in advance!

"Friendly" is a rather subjective term, so I'll supply you with objective data.
http://www.med.wisc.edu/education/md/admissions/about-our-entering-class/107
The matriculating numbers are at about a 75/25 split as you can see... but the acceptances are more evenly distributed between IS and OOS (from different pool sizes obviously). And like any other medical school, UW looks for you to be all you can be. The application is cheap, $56, so you might as well apply! Good luck!
 
Hi everyone,

I'm a 4th year at UW and I'd be happy to answer any qs you might have. I was involved in admissions during my first couple years at UW so I know a fair amount about the process.
 
Like drizz I just wanted to offer up myself for any questions people may have about UWSMPH. I'm an M1 this year so the application and interview process is all really fresh. I know a fair deal about the med school in general too. I'm going to volunteer to give tours during interviews (which start 9/23) so I hope to see many of you this fall! As good as any of you think this school is I'm extremely confident that it's better. Way better. Best of luck!
 
these might be useful to others so if you don't mind i'll ask here. what year are you and what do you like most about the school and city so far?

I'll post my $0.02 here.

School:

1) Incredibly supportive faculty. They want you to succeed and will go to great lengths to help you. I was presenting at an international meeting (more about research later) and missed a week of school and small groups. The attending leading (an orthopedic surgeon, no less) my small group arranged to meet me the following week during lunch to teach me the small group material individually and even bought me lunch! This is only one example but there are many. On the wards, the faculty and residents are always nice (you'll hear horror stories from other schools, read the "clinical rotations" forums for examples) and I've never encountered malignant behavior on the wards. They make an effort to teach and let med students do far more in many cases than theyd be able to do at some programs. I was able to do full surgeries under supervision of an attending when no residents were around and they'd seen me do it before.

2) Amazing research opportunities. All students are eligible for the Shapiro summer program between m1/2 which gives you $6k in research funding for 8-12 weeks of research and gets you an automatic poster/oral presentation. Other research opportunities are present as well. I was able to travel to more than 10 national/international meetings in 4 different countries to present research, all expenses paid. I was also able to publish many papers and had a lot of support from research faculty, grad students, and staff.

3) Students/environment: I'm not exagerrating when I say that people in WI in general and at UW SMPH specifically are the nicest you'll meet anywhere, and are generally just good people. Despite there being grades m2/3 I've never seen any competitive behavior and people generally share notes, study guides, whatever, regardless of the situation. Many people buy test banks and/or textbooks and share them. I've had classmates switch activities, shifts, call etc without thinking about it, usually when you email about this type of stuff people will volunteer in minutes!

4) City: I have to preface this with two disclosures 1) I am a Madison native 2) I love big cities and will end up in one. That being said, Madison is a pretty awesome place to live. It has low cost of living, lots of great restaurants, a decent amount of cultural events, and is close to other major cities. I think the nightlife is somewhat underrated, but is a bit lacking in terms of dancing, that being said, there are a lot of cool bars/lounges, especially on the near east side. Madison has a lot of comfortable places where it's easy to be a regular. I'm currently in San Francisco on a rotation and still miss some of my old haunts!

5) Schedule: The schedule for m3/4 is pretty flexible and will be more so now with the class of 2015 moving to a 4 week neurology clerkship. That will let all required coursework besides the preceptorship, surgery month, and sub-I to be done in m3, giving you 4.5 months of elective time to use for away rotations, electives, international rotations, or vacation.

6) facilities: with the exception of the anatomy lab, all the m1/2 facilities are brand new (built in 2004). There are two brand new research buildings that are/will be built right next to the med school as well. The hospital, VA, and children's hosp are all attached to the med school. Most people will do 3 months away during 3rd year and some amount away as a 4th year, so you'll get exposure to many health systems including urban and rural medicine.

If you have any qs, feel free to PM me.
 
I'll post my $0.02 here.

School:

1) Incredibly supportive faculty. They want you to succeed and will go to great lengths to help you. I was presenting at an international meeting (more about research later) and missed a week of school and small groups. The attending leading (an orthopedic surgeon, no less) my small group arranged to meet me the following week during lunch to teach me the small group material individually and even bought me lunch! This is only one example but there are many. On the wards, the faculty and residents are always nice (you'll hear horror stories from other schools, read the "clinical rotations" forums for examples) and I've never encountered malignant behavior on the wards. They make an effort to teach and let med students do far more in many cases than theyd be able to do at some programs. I was able to do full surgeries under supervision of an attending when no residents were around and they'd seen me do it before.

2) Amazing research opportunities. All students are eligible for the Shapiro summer program between m1/2 which gives you $6k in research funding for 8-12 weeks of research and gets you an automatic poster/oral presentation. Other research opportunities are present as well. I was able to travel to more than 10 national/international meetings in 4 different countries to present research, all expenses paid. I was also able to publish many papers and had a lot of support from research faculty, grad students, and staff.

3) Students/environment: I'm not exagerrating when I say that people in WI in general and at UW SMPH specifically are the nicest you'll meet anywhere, and are generally just good people. Despite there being grades m2/3 I've never seen any competitive behavior and people generally share notes, study guides, whatever, regardless of the situation. Many people buy test banks and/or textbooks and share them. I've had classmates switch activities, shifts, call etc without thinking about it, usually when you email about this type of stuff people will volunteer in minutes!

4) City: I have to preface this with two disclosures 1) I am a Madison native 2) I love big cities and will end up in one. That being said, Madison is a pretty awesome place to live. It has low cost of living, lots of great restaurants, a decent amount of cultural events, and is close to other major cities. I think the nightlife is somewhat underrated, but is a bit lacking in terms of dancing, that being said, there are a lot of cool bars/lounges, especially on the near east side. Madison has a lot of comfortable places where it's easy to be a regular. I'm currently in San Francisco on a rotation and still miss some of my old haunts!

5) Schedule: The schedule for m3/4 is pretty flexible and will be more so now with the class of 2015 moving to a 4 week neurology clerkship. That will let all required coursework besides the preceptorship, surgery month, and sub-I to be done in m3, giving you 4.5 months of elective time to use for away rotations, electives, international rotations, or vacation.

6) facilities: with the exception of the anatomy lab, all the m1/2 facilities are brand new (built in 2004). There are two brand new research buildings that are/will be built right next to the med school as well. The hospital, VA, and children's hosp are all attached to the med school. Most people will do 3 months away during 3rd year and some amount away as a 4th year, so you'll get exposure to many health systems including urban and rural medicine.

If you have any qs, feel free to PM me.

thanks for the info! as a MSTP applicant, these are some encouraging words.
 
Gotta say, all of the current medical students posting to help out is a good sign of the type of people that go to Wisconsin. Wisconsin is one of my top picks without a doubt, and this was encouraging thank guys!
 
thanks for the info! as a MSTP applicant, these are some encouraging words.

One cool thing about the MSTP here is that some of the people do some pretty amazing projects during it, the original PC-VIPR paper was written by a MD-PhD, Andrew barger, pretty nice feather in his cap there 🙂
 
I am currently an undergraduate at the University of Wisconsin-Madison but am an Illinois resident. I know I won't get preference because I am OOS, but will the fact that I am a student here help? I hope so! I love Madison and want to stay here another 4 years!
 
I am currently an undergraduate at the University of Wisconsin-Madison but am an Illinois resident. I know I won't get preference because I am OOS, but will the fact that I am a student here help? I hope so! I love Madison and want to stay here another 4 years!

It helps a lot actually. UW loves it's alums.
 
Can't wait to submit their secondary tomorrow. I hate having things hang over my head.
 
Submitted! Finally done with all of my secondary applications!
 
is everyone copying and pasting their activity descriptions from amcas?
 
is everyone copying and pasting their activity descriptions from amcas?

Dude no you want to elaborate in secondaries

In general that's true, but someone mentioned earlier in this thread that the school has no problem whatsoever with copying and pasting.

I think the point of that section is to have us put our AMCAS stuff in chronological order for them so that they don't have to do it. That question isn't designed to have new revelations about you.
 
In general that's true, but someone mentioned earlier in this thread that the school has no problem whatsoever with copying and pasting.

I think the point of that section is to have us put our AMCAS stuff in chronological order for them so that they don't have to do it. That question isn't designed to have new revelations about you.

Once you submit the secondary, you can see what the activity portion is for. It creates a bar graph type timeline which shows how long you did each activity. I don't think they want in depth descriptions for each things.
 
Since this school doesn't do update letters, do you guys think its worth it to wait till september to add in my grades for the courses that I'm taking in summer and additional hours worth of EC's? Or should I just submit now?
 
So the consensus on the Activities section on this secondary is that it's acceptable to copy/paste from AMCAS? I understand that the main purpose of that section is to generate that bar graph, but I just don't want to look like I'm lazy or something...
 
Since this school doesn't do update letters, do you guys think its worth it to wait till september to add in my grades for the courses that I'm taking in summer and additional hours worth of EC's? Or should I just submit now?

Submit ASAP unless your GPA is going to significantly improve.

To answer the other people's Qs, cut/pasting activities is just fine.
 
considering applying here but have a question about lor requirements. the website says that 3 must be academic and 1 nonacademic however all of my writers are faculty members but i have one from an MD who i volunteered with and my research PI who is also my work supervisor.

would any of these two count as nonacademic since they never taught me in a class but are still faculty members or can i not apply here because i dont meet the lor requirements? thanks
 
considering applying here but have a question about lor requirements. the website says that 3 must be academic and 1 nonacademic however all of my writers are faculty members but i have one from an MD who i volunteered with and my research PI who is also my work supervisor.

would any of these two count as nonacademic since they never taught me in a class but are still faculty members or can i not apply here because i dont meet the lor requirements? thanks

Yes. I asked this exact question, and was told by the director of admissions that the letter from my PI (faculty but never taught me) would count as the non-academic letter. One stipulation being that I specified that my PI's letter did not focus on my academic credentials.
 
Yes. I asked this exact question, and was told by the director of admissions that the letter from my PI (faculty but never taught me) would count as the non-academic letter. One stipulation being that I specified that my PI's letter did not focus on my academic credentials.

+1

I also asked if I could use a letter from my PI and they said yes.
 
Gotta say, all of the current medical students posting to help out is a good sign of the type of people that go to Wisconsin. Wisconsin is one of my top picks without a doubt, and this was encouraging thank guys!

Incoming M1 this fall. What is a pro about school here? We have class from 8am-12pm or 9-12 everyday, none of this 8am-4pm business. Twice a week we have afternoon small groups from about 1-3:30 or so, the rest of your day is free. P/F is looking really nice too
 
Do they want scholarships too. May be a stupid question but I don't care I want to know anyway 😀
 
Any parents on this thread? Parenting as life activity? Lol how do I put an quantitative number as to how many hours/week I am a parent?
 
Received a complete email today. Sounds like we won't hear from them for a while.

"The next step is for the Admissions Committee to do the preliminary review of your application to determine whether or not you will be selected to interview. The Admissions Committee will begin this process in late September. Review order is based upon strength of application and the date of submission of the secondary application. Interview invitations will be extended beginning in late September through February. Our interview dates begin in early October. Invitations to interview come via email."
 
Question for current students- how Nontrad friendly are they here? I'm OOS with an engineering background.

Uw is one of the very most if not most non-trad friendly schools in the US. A 49 y/o guy who was a gardener graduated last year and is now doing a residency in plastics at UCI.
 
Received a complete email today. Sounds like we won't hear from them for a while.

"The next step is for the Admissions Committee to do the preliminary review of your application to determine whether or not you will be selected to interview. The Admissions Committee will begin this process in late September. Review order is based upon strength of application and the date of submission of the secondary application. Interview invitations will be extended beginning in late September through February. Our interview dates begin in early October. Invitations to interview come via email."

Interviews are only on Fridays, I think the first date will be 10/7 for regular admissions (EDP are the month before) and invites typically went out around 9/20.
 
Hey SDNers ---

Can anyone who has already submitted tell me a little bit about how the final format of the secondary looks once you submit? I've heard that it comes out as some sort of graph with all your activities, but then where do the activity descriptions appear?

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!! 😀😀😎
 
Hey SDNers ---

Can anyone who has already submitted tell me a little bit about how the final format of the secondary looks once you submit? I've heard that it comes out as some sort of graph with all your activities, but then where do the activity descriptions appear?

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!! 😀😀😎

Madisongraph.jpg


This is what the graph looks like, activity names are to the left (I cut them out of the pic). Below the graph, the activities' descriptions are listed in a very similar manner to the AMCAS app.
 
Has anyone still not received a complete status? I did have to submit a day late because of a mistake I made on the application, but I've given it a couple of business days. My fee shows as paid, but my letters show as not yet received even though I assigned them through AMCAS back in July.
 
Has anyone still not received a complete status? I did have to submit a day late because of a mistake I made on the application, but I've given it a couple of business days. My fee shows as paid, but my letters show as not yet received even though I assigned them through AMCAS back in July.

My letters haven't yet been marked as received either. I'd give them at least until next week before thinking about contacting them.
 
My letters haven't yet been marked as received either. I'd give them at least until next week before thinking about contacting them.

Thanks. Yeah, I didn't want to go all neurotic on them just yet. 🙂
 
Has anyone still not received a complete status? I did have to submit a day late because of a mistake I made on the application, but I've given it a couple of business days. My fee shows as paid, but my letters show as not yet received even though I assigned them through AMCAS back in July.

I got my complete email yesterday, but I happened to be on the computer the night of the 19th and submitted at around 12:02. :laugh: I'm figuring they had a pretty big batch come in all at once, so I wouldn't worry for a week or so.
 
I got my complete email yesterday, but I happened to be on the computer the night of the 19th and submitted at around 12:02. :laugh: I'm figuring they had a pretty big batch come in all at once, so I wouldn't worry for a week or so.

That was exactly what I did. Probably why we got complete emails yesterday.
 
I submitted Sunday afternoon, received a complete email yesterday. Things take time, don't stress about it.
 
Hi guys,
Is there a character or word limit for the activities descriptions?
How much is appropriate to write??

Thanks! Good luck!
 
Is anyone else STILL not complete? I know they sent that "don't contact us within 7-10 days" email, so I don't want to pester the office. Just wondering if anyone's in the same boat.

I also have a new thing on the status about whether my WI residency has been determined, even though I submitted that form when I submitted my MCW application in June.
 
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