2012-2013 University of Texas Southwestern Application Thread

[TheTruckGuy]

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I do believe that Alpha Omega Alpha admits students based solely on their USMLE Step 1 score. So a more highly competitive school should in theory challenge you more, and thereby encourage you to score higher on the USMLE thereby making entry into the AOA easier.

There is no reason to go to a lower ranked school unless you:

#1. Can't afford a higher ranked school
#2. Can't qualify for a higher ranked school
#3. Have reached the point in your life when you no longer want to compete

There is nothing wrong with, after having worked very hard to score in the top of your class for all of the pre-medical curriculum and to score well on the MCAT, to desire to "take a break" for awhile and begin to enjoy your life. But to desire to go to a low ranked school because you think it will be easier to get high grades is flawed logic. Few patients will care where you did your medical school training, and no patient will ever ask you if you were in the honor society. Since the end goal of our career is to provide the best patient care possible, I feel it is important to view things from the patient's perspective.

Rankings often take into account a lot of variable, and usually don't include subjective metrics or things outside the walls of the school. Like location of the school, safety of the neighborhood, quality of life for students, facilities for students (lockers, rec room, study spaces, etc), and professor's teaching abilities, among others.

On a side note, I had a dream last night that I some how got in here. Hopefully it's a good sign.

 

[cyanide12345678]

You guys are probably right. It probably will be harder to be in the AOA at UTSW considering the caliber of everyone around. But honestly, I'm not sure how important that is for getting into a competitive residency. I think factors that matter the most are your USMLE scores, recommendation letters from individuals within that specialty, and research/exposure to that specialty. If you want to get into a competitive program, then you'll need like a 260 on the step. If you can get that, then you can atleast be top 30% of the class (which isn't AOA), but none the less it is decent 🙂

 

[cyanide12345678]

We had a dermatologist talk about derm and how competitive it is. He said that if anyone of us (referring to MS1s) wants to go into dermatology, then we need to be working at a research lab right now. And we need to have atleast 3 papers published in a dermatology journal to be considered an "average" applicant.

 

[rubisco88]

I heard from some docs that some top residency programs won't even look at your app if you aren't in aoa.

 

[Whatyousay]

I'm trying to figure out who you are *humph* 😛...

You were part of the group that baked zucchini bread for everybody? It was delicious!

Does anyone think it will be slightly easier to get into the aoa honor society by going to a less competitive/lower tier school? I heard it's important to be in the aoa if you want to go into a competitive specialty. Theoretically do you have a lower chance of getting into the honor society at utsw than other Tx schools because of the caliber of students?

Here's the criteria for selection at UTSW:
http://utswaoa.wordpress.com/join/criteria-for-selection/

AOA is not a requirement for competitive specialties. Although some programs do like to see AOA on your application, it's more like "icing on the cake" than anything else. It's not so much a negative if you don't have it as it is a positive if you do have it.

The National Resident Matching Program conducts a biennial survey of residency directions about what factors they consider important in evaluating candidates:
http://www.nrmp.org/data/programresultsbyspecialty.pdf

There are at least a dozen factors that matter more than AOA membership (Step 1, clerkship grades, letters of rec., etc.). Even for the more competitive specialties like derm or radonc, AOA is one of the least significant factors in drawing an interview. Heck, Harvard, Stanford, and Yale don't even have AOA chapters.

Don't pick a school because of the probability of getting AOA (I say it deserves the same weight as whether or not you like the school's colors). Consider fit, how you like the area, whether you like your classmates, how the curriculum / ECs fit in with your educational philosophy, etc. AOA is going to be hard to get at any school ... the cream of the crop at one school would very likely be the cream of the crop at another. At UTSW, the grade you get is the grade you earn. If you make an A, you make an A, irrespective of how the rest of the class does. If you're looking to get into an "elite" residency, you're going to be dealing with competition regardless of where you go.

tl;dr: Picking a school solely because you think it would be easier to get into AOA is silly, and will probably lead to regrets down the road. Most residency directors don't seem to care all that much about AOA ... why should you?

 

[Whatyousay]

I heard from some docs that some top residency programs won't even look at your app if you aren't in aoa.

Well, guess that means no one from Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Mayo, or UCSD matched into a top residency program.

 

[Justin Stuart]

We had a dermatologist talk about derm and how competitive it is. He said that if anyone of us (referring to MS1s) wants to go into dermatology, then we need to be working at a research lab right now. And we need to have atleast 3 papers published in a dermatology journal to be considered an "average" applicant.

I am yet to understand why dermatology is such a competitive specialty.

 

[Whatyousay]

I am yet to understand why dermatology is such a competitive specialty.

No call + compensation (largely cash 'n carry = mostly elective, no Medicaid) + hours (9-5).

Basically, it's a lifestyle specialty.

 

[rubisco88]

If there is is no aoa at a school of course they won't care. It's like going to an elite hs that doesn't rank. I think it hurts though when elite schools are doing ranking or aoa though just like it hurt applicants who score high on the sat but don't rank in the top 10 percent because the class is the best of the best. If the ranking information is available I'm sure they will use it. If you go to Harvard and they don't rank, obviously they'll have to give you the benefit of the doubt based on your usmle score.

I just think you'd be hurting students who are the bottom of the best of the best or just average when you put into effect any sort of ranking or honor society. Obviously these other elite schools realize there is an advantage for students by not having ranking or an aoa.

 

[cyanide12345678]

You were part of the group that baked zucchini bread for everybody? It was delicious!

I don't think I can take any credit for that. It was all because of a certain amazing asian. Oh and the person who did most of the baking worked at a bakery for several years 😛 So really...all the credit goes to those two people 🙂

 

[Justin Stuart]

No call + compensation (largely cash 'n carry = mostly elective, no Medicaid) + hours (9-5). Basically, it's a lifestyle specialty.

Yes, I understand. But it would be the same thing for dentistry. And in Dallas, we have dentists who are advertising face lifts, nose jobs, and eyelid lifts. How a dentist can consider a facelift to be within his/her "scope of practice" is beyond me, but it seems they are able to get away with it.

 

[tn4596]

Yes, I understand. But it would be the same thing for dentistry. And in Dallas, we have dentists who are advertising face lifts, nose jobs, and eyelid lifts. How a dentist can consider a facelift to be within his/her "scope of practice" is beyond me, but it seems they are able to get away with it.

Maxillofacial surgery, maybe. Just the same thing as a dermatologist can be a "cosmetic surgeon" and to procedure that a plastic surgeon usually would do: breast jobs, eye lift, ...


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[Whatyousay]

To anyone worrying about AOA:

Worry about interviews and acceptances first. Don't start comparing two schools until you get acceptances from two schools.

The application process can be long and stressful. Don't make it harder than it already is

 

[cyanide12345678]

Premeds are such gunners 😛 You guys do know that it's a lot more important to figure out which field you're interested in versus being in some top residency program, right? I mean sure you might make a lot of money sitting in a dark room while looking at images all day, but that's not for everyone 🙂

So at the end of the day, you need to figure out what you love to do, not what is prestigious or makes a lot of money. Because if you go into something just for the prestige, you might not love your life.

Happiness comes first. Do what makes you happy.

 

[annonymous819]

II invite, oos.

Looks like its a two day interview process, does anyone have more information on friday clinical rounds? I would love to attend on Friday, but have uth that day and really dont want to have to buy another ticket down to TX if I can save the money.

 

[SBR249]

II invite, oos.

Looks like its a two day interview process, does anyone have more information on friday clinical rounds? I would love to attend on Friday, but have uth that day and really dont want to have to buy another ticket down to TX if I can save the money.

Friday should be optional I think.

 

[cyanide12345678]

II invite, oos.

Looks like its a two day interview process, does anyone have more information on friday clinical rounds? I would love to attend on Friday, but have uth that day and really dont want to have to buy another ticket down to TX if I can save the money.

Clinical rounds are optional. But about 60% of those interviewing do them. Essentially you get to hang out with a couple of 3rd years and an attending as they go from patient to patient. You get a sneak peak into the life of a 3rd year (without any interview glamour in my opinion). After the clinical rounds there is a power point where they go over why Southwestern is awesome. And then they answer a lot of questions about financial aid and all that good stuff followed by an amazing dinner.

Then Saturday is really a repeat of Friday, except no clinical rounds and the power point presentation is a little shorter too. So friday = Alot more information abt UTSW than Saturday. But saturday is more than enough to get a feel for the school.

 

[mrfuumanchu206]

Alright I'm an MS1 at Southwestern and I'm going to try and give you an accurate account of everything.

I myself was having a hard time picking UTSW because of the perceived gunner reputation of the school (which was true some 4 - 5 years ago before the college system and absolute grading). So as an outsider before, I too was weary of this reputation. Essentially, the reputation came from 5 or so years ago and individuals who do not go to UTSW only rely on heresay that goes around about the school (which is that it's a gunner school). But having attended 3 weeks of school, I can tell you that the gunner reputation is absolutely wrong.

So what changed in 5 years? First, the college system was introduced. Ask any rice student how amazing the college system is and why they love Rice and they will tell you 🙂 The college system fosters friendly competition between colleges, and it really brings together individuals 🙂 it's like having 6 small families within the class. Now that changed a lot, but ofcourse absolute grading meant that there was no curve anymore 🙂 One person's success was not the failure of another person anymore. So people really started helping each other. And you would be amazed at how much everyone is helping!!!!! I have never seen such a cohesive and helpful group of individuals in my life. Ask any question on our class of 2016 facebook group, and you'll get 10 responses within an hour with people chiming in. People are sharing notes all the time (we have an O drive which is accessible to only UTSW students, so essentially students go ahead and post their notes on there). I don't attend lectures personally (i like sleep), so I like those notes 🙂 and before our first exam, people were compiling notes and making all sorts of helpful sheets and posting those on the O drive. I remember one person posted EXTREMELY helpful flashcards 🙂 I used those to review. And another person took 150 pages of material and condensed it into 14 pages of essential facts you need to know 😛 So really...I've honestly NEVER seen this kind of sharing between people. A good friend of mine posts emails out his notes every lecture (he takes good notes lolz). And then ofcourse if you're having any sort of trouble with the VPN or anything, just ask on the facebook group and BAM someone will immediately help out.

While we have a really cohesive student body, we have some amazing people that go to school. The caliber of people at UTSW is just astounding. Everyone is super helpful, but at the same time, everyone is brilliant. I know a person (MS2) who is a part of 4 organizations and an anatomy TA (as well as a dad for 2 beautiful children). You would think that he wouldn't have time for life and other things. But I had a few questions about medical school before classes had started, and he sat down for an hour or so and told me about everything 🙂 And then I have some amazing class fellows. This is the most amazing group of individuals I have met honestly.

And I guess it is worth mentioning that we at UTSW know how to have fun!!! I have had more fun in 3 weeks of med school compared to my 4 years of college. I have already gotten to know half of my class by name (a good 120 people). I am not kidding when I say that every day of the weekend we have atleast 3 - 4 social events happen. For example, yesterday, after anatomy lab (boohooo for anatomy), a group of people went to velvet taco for dinner (not that exciting huh?). So that was at 7 pm. From there we went to Beer garden (and doesn't matter if you don't drink 🙂...I don't drink but it's always fun hanging out with my friends). And then from there we went to mckinney street (whihc is where all the bars are) and we were at quarter bar. And then, we went to the den, which is a pretty cool dance club/bar. And yes, we all danced the night away 🙂 The point is, we all like having fun 🙂 med school is hard. And we understand what everyone is going through. And once it's the weekend, we all go out and have fun. I have honestly been to more social gatherings at UTSW than my entire college career.

Now that I look back, I LOVE my life at UTSW. I am extremely happy that I chose this school over my other options. Having met the people at school, I can say for a fact that the unhappy/gunner reputation for the school is not true. We are a happy bunch 🙂 I did my undergrad at Rice U. And people at Rice are the happiest students EVER (according to US news atleast ). And honestly, I'm happier than I've been at Rice, which is saying A LOT since I was very happy at Rice as well.

If anyone has any questions/concerns about UTSW, shoot me a message. And I will get back to you guys (which btw reminds me that the student rep from MS1 who was just elected to represent UTSW at the interviews is an AMAZING person. Just yesterday she brought 50 lbs of flour and was baking zucchini bread and pound cakes for everyone at school. A lot of poeple were helping as well).

I like pretty much everything about this post.

I'd also like to add my two cents as a 3rd year who's been through some of the most stressful parts of medical school (STEP 1 and 2 months of 3rd year). Yea, people will get stressed out, I'm pretty sure it's a universal truth that people will be stressed when they're about to take an 8 hour test that determines their life. It's not a very fair time to evaluate the "happiness" of the students.

I will say that I have a friend at Baylor who tells me that she doesn't like her class and wishes she had come to UTSW. I think it will all come down to which school fits your personality. Both are great schools and both train fantastic physicians, but after interviewing at both schools you should notice a very distinct difference between the two schools.

For me, what sold UTSW over Baylor was the fact that I saw somewhere in the neighborhood of 75-100 students come out to greet us at UTSW (even the weekend before a test) and met maybe 5 students at Baylor. The fact that student's cared enough and love their school enough to come out and talk to complete strangers spoke great volumes to me.

My friends who interviewed at other schools last year always came up to me and the first thing they would ask me was "Why do so many other schools trash UTSW? Is everybody here really that intense?" All I had to do was point out the 75 students that had come out to greet them and they pretty much knew it was a bit of sour grapes, misinformation, and lingering stereotypes that really aren't true anymore.

Also...stop worrying about AOA. I'm a 3rd year and I'm not even worrying about it as much as you guys.

P.S. Cyanide... you had too many smiley faces in your post...they wouldn't let me add anymore (insert sadface)

 

[mohad]

I like pretty much everything about this post.

I'd also like to add my two cents as a 3rd year who's been through some of the most stressful parts of medical school (STEP 1 and 2 months of 3rd year). Yea, people will get stressed out, I'm pretty sure it's a universal truth that people will be stressed when they're about to take an 8 hour test that determines their life. It's not a very fair time to evaluate the "happiness" of the students.

I will say that I have a friend at Baylor who tells me that she doesn't like her class and wishes she had come to UTSW. I think it will all come down to which school fits your personality. Both are great schools and both train fantastic physicians, but after interviewing at both schools you should notice a very distinct difference between the two schools.

For me, what sold UTSW over Baylor was the fact that I saw somewhere in the neighborhood of 75-100 students come out to greet us at UTSW (even the weekend before a test) and met maybe 5 students at Baylor. The fact that student's cared enough and love their school enough to come out and talk to complete strangers spoke great volumes to me.

My friends who interviewed at other schools last year always came up to me and the first thing they would ask me was "Why do so many other schools trash UTSW? Is everybody here really that intense?" All I had to do was point out the 75 students that had come out to greet them and they pretty much knew it was a bit of sour grapes, misinformation, and lingering stereotypes that really aren't true anymore.

Also...stop worrying about AOA. I'm a 3rd year and I'm not even worrying about it as much as you guys.

P.S. Cyanide... you had too many smiley faces in your post...they wouldn't let me add anymore (insert sadface)

Ok, this is good to hear. What other positive aspects do you think UTSW has that drew you to the school? I guess this is open ended though for anyone attending.

 

[annonymous819]

Clinical rounds are optional. But about 60% of those interviewing do them. Essentially you get to hang out with a couple of 3rd years and an attending as they go from patient to patient. You get a sneak peak into the life of a 3rd year (without any interview glamour in my opinion). After the clinical rounds there is a power point where they go over why Southwestern is awesome. And then they answer a lot of questions about financial aid and all that good stuff followed by an amazing dinner.

Then Saturday is really a repeat of Friday, except no clinical rounds and the power point presentation is a little shorter too. So friday = Alot more information abt UTSW than Saturday. But saturday is more than enough to get a feel for the school.

Thanks for the info, like I said I would love to go, but not enough to buy two separate round trip tickets down there. It is easier if I just hop to uth friday, then utsw saturday and fly home. That saves tons of money.

 

[Whatyousay]

Thanks for the info, like I said I would love to go, but not enough to buy two separate round trip tickets down there. It is easier if I just hop to uth friday, then utsw saturday and fly home. That saves tons of money.

Yeah, that's fine.

I did the UTH-UTSW doubleheader last year, and I didn't really feel like I missed out on much. Just rest up before your interviews, because those are going to be a long two days.

 

[Salaam]

Has anyone received the email about the HIPAA training for this Friday? I've checked my spam file like they said in the invitation, but I'm still not finding it.

 

[redoitall]

Has anyone received the email about the HIPAA training for this Friday? I've checked my spam file like they said in the invitation, but I'm still not finding it.

I was wondering the same thing.

Sent via my crappy phone.

 

[BLMTX]

Yeah, I got it the next day after the invite...

 

[redoitall]

Yeah, I got it the next day after the invite...

You kind posting the info?

Sent via my crappy phone.

 

[BLMTX]

You kind posting the info?

Sent via my crappy phone.

Here is the text of the email regarding HIPAA training. It won't do you much good unless you have been given a user name and password (so you need to have the email). The email subject was "Access Information."

Dear #####,

Greetings. You are receiving this message as you may be a medical school applicant, a short term contractor or a Temporary employee with access to protected health information (PHI). You may have taken a HIPAA training course in the past for UT Southwestern Medical Center through the self-registration process. This message is to inform you our training process has changed.

As a result of your new status or your previous registration, you have been granted access to MyLearning, the new UT Southwestern learning management system. If you have completed your training you may disregard this message and ignore any future messages from this address. However, if you are an applicant to the UT Southwestern Medical School and have elected to participate in our Clinical Rounds program as part of your interview experience, you will need this information in order to complete your HIPAA training.

Your access information is:
user id: ######
password: ##########

Please complete all future training by clicking on the following URL: https://my.swmed.org/MyLearning.html
Once logged in you will need to change your password by clicking the "Change Password" link in the left menu.

Please do not reply to this email. If you have questions about the contents of this notice, please contact [email protected]

 

[redoitall]

^^^ thanks mate. I saw, this, text in a pdf document attached to the first email, but I have never received the email itself. I have emailed admissions about this. Weil keep, you posted.

Sent via my crappy phone.

 

[Salaam]

^^^ thanks mate. I saw, this, text in a pdf document attached to the first email, but I have never received the email itself. I have emailed admissions about this. Weil keep, you posted.

Sent via my crappy phone.

I just got a response from admissions. She said she'd make sure to email it out by tomorrow morning. Some error on the part of the tech system. Should get the passcodes soon!

 

[cyanide12345678]

Good luck to everyone interviewing this saturday!!! I guess I might be seeing some of y'all on friday and/or saturday (depending on how behind I am for my biochem exam lolz) 😀

 

[Salaam]

Good luck to everyone interviewing this saturday!!! I guess I might be seeing some of y'all on friday and/or saturday (depending on how behind I am for my biochem exam lolz) 😀

Thanks Cyanide! Any last minute tips for the interviews?

 

[StrikeX2]

IS UT Southwestern affiliated with any undergraduate institutions? Some medical schools allow you to take current courses in their undergraduate/graduate campuses for free if schedule allows permits and I was wondering if this is a possibility at UTSW. Thanks!

 

[Whatyousay]

IS UT Southwestern affiliated with any undergraduate institutions? Some medical schools allow you to take current courses in their undergraduate/graduate campuses for free if schedule allows permits and I was wondering if this is a possibility at UTSW. Thanks!

To my knowledge, UTSW is not officially affiliated with any undergraduate institution.

However, UTSW does partner with other institutions for some of the dual degree programs (i.e. UT Dallas for MBA, UT-H for public health). In addition, UTSW offers quite a few elective courses to supplement the medical curriculum (medical Spanish, medical humanities, finance, etc.).

 

[cyanide12345678]

Thanks Cyanide! Any last minute tips for the interviews?

Have questions about the school 🙂 Don't be afraid to ask hard questions. I straight up asked an interviewer about the gunner reputation of Southwestern lolz 😛 (ofcourse I don't recommend asking that kind of a question).

Also, MAKE SURE TO GO OVER THE QUESTIONS IN THE SDN INTERVIEW DATABASE!!!!!!!!!

Most importantly, just remember to relax. Interviews are surprisingly casual.

 

[Celerity]

Have questions about the school 🙂 Don't be afraid to ask hard questions. I straight up asked an interviewer about the gunner reputation of Southwestern lolz 😛 (ofcourse I don't recommend asking that kind of a question).

Also, MAKE SURE TO GO OVER THE QUESTIONS IN THE SDN INTERVIEW DATABASE!!!!!!!!!

Most importantly, just remember to relax. Interviews are surprisingly casual.

I second that. My interviewer was 20 minutes late to my first interview and he held me 15 minutes over. I had to tell the next interviewer what happened because I was late and it was fine. I still got in. Just relax and have a conversation.

 

[mairaj24]

Can someone give me a link to this interview question database. I cannot find it for the life of me.

 

[mairaj24]

Got it nvm.

 

[sliceofbread136]

Fun interview, went great! Bbq was good.

 

[StrikeX2]

i am so excited to visit this place! I got my ii today (OOS); secondary was completed on 8/29. good luck everyone!

 

[redoitall]

The school is great, and what is being done is quite impressive. You can feel a commitment to do what's best to train students in an impeccable way. Truly loved the school. I have mixed feeling regarding my interviews. I wished they had gone better. It is so hard to read into them. I am thinking that even rejected student walk out with a good feeling usually. So imagine if the feeling is not great.
Now the interviewers were quite nice, the conversations (as they like to call them) just didn't seem as "engaged" as at other places, a bit more detached. I want to stress that the interviewers were kind. They didn't grill me, or ask me tough questions, pretty standard stuff. Perhaps it also has to do with the fact that I care a bit more at this school than as others, or that I felt a bit more impressed and intimated. I don't really know.
In any event, the school is absolutely fantastic. No doubt about it. It is a deal that is hard to beat at all level (financial, education quality, learning environment, facilities and so...). And the admission folks are outstanding.

Good luck to all.

 

[imymemine]

The school is great, and what is being done is quite impressive. You can feel a commitment to do what's best to train students in an impeccable way. Truly loved the school. I have mixed feeling regarding my interviews. I wished they had gone better. It is so hard to read into them. I am thinking that even rejected student walk out with a good feeling usually. So imagine if the feeling is not great.
Now the interviewers were quite nice, the conversations (as they like to call them) just didn't seem as "engaged" as at other places, a bit more detached. I want to stress that the interviewers were kind. They didn't grill me, or ask me tough questions, pretty standard stuff. Perhaps it also has to do with the fact that I care a bit more at this school than as others, or that I felt a bit more impressed and intimated. I don't really know.
In any event, the school is absolutely fantastic. No doubt about it. It is a deal that is hard to beat at all level (financial, education quality, learning environment, facilities and so...). And the admission folks are outstanding.

Good luck to all.

chin up, redoitall! don't let any interview or admissions decision define you--I got rejected from a bunch of dream schools and I'm still standing. also, even if the interview didn't go as well as you would have liked, remember it's only one part of the application. I def had some shaky interviews at places and still got in. plus, I believe that UTSW accepts close to half of all interviewees, and they make acceptances all the way until basically the last minute in june. i remember feeling the same anxiety this time last year, don't let it get to you, and use what you learned to do better at the next interview!

 

[rubisco88]

What's the lowest MCAT you've heard of getting into UTSW? Better yet..does anyone have the range of scores reported by the MSAR?

 

[La Presse]

What's the lowest MCAT you've heard of getting into UTSW? Better yet..does anyone have the range of scores reported by the MSAR?

About 24. They post ranges on their websites.


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[redoitall]

chin up, redoitall! don't let any interview or admissions decision define you--I got rejected from a bunch of dream schools and I'm still standing. also, even if the interview didn't go as well as you would have liked, remember it's only one part of the application. I def had some shaky interviews at places and still got in. plus, I believe that UTSW accepts close to half of all interviewees, and they make acceptances all the way until basically the last minute in june. i remember feeling the same anxiety this time last year, don't let it get to you, and use what you learned to do better at the next interview!

Thanks imymemine. I guess the wait will be long and excruciating. I wouldn't say that the interviews were bad by any means. Just felt a bit "cold". Ah well we'll see. I hope to match somewhere at least. Que sera sera.

Did you guys send thank you notes systematically? Do you think that helps?

 

[imymemine]

Thanks imymemine. I guess the wait will be long and excruciating. I wouldn't say that the interviews were bad by any means. Just felt a bit "cold". Ah well we'll see. I hope to match somewhere at least. Que sera sera.

Did you guys send thank you notes systematically? Do you think that helps?

I believe I looked up my interviewers' emails on the UTSW website when I did it. Everyone says thank you notes don't help (they probably filled out your eval a long time ago by now) but in general I did them anyway.

 

[Salaam]

This school is awesome. The interview days were so informative and well put-together. Definite top choice!

 

[Whatyousay]

I believe I looked up my interviewers' emails on the UTSW website when I did it. Everyone says thank you notes don't help (they probably filled out your eval a long time ago by now) but in general I did them anyway.

One of my interviewers filled out my evaluation form in front of me DURING the interview last year. I had to constantly stop myself from staring at the sheet

Thank you notes are nice gestures, but I doubt that they make any difference.

 

[Celerity]

I believe I looked up my interviewers' emails on the UTSW website when I did it. Everyone says thank you notes don't help (they probably filled out your eval a long time ago by now) but in general I did them anyway.

As soon as interviews are over the evals are filled out. Interviewers are specifically instructed not to hold students longer than the allotted time.

In practice several people were held over by their interviewers

 

[redoitall]

One of my interviewers filled out my evaluation form in front of me DURING the interview last year. I had to constantly stop myself from staring at the sheet

Now that you mention it, I wonder if my interviewer didn't have a form already filled out (typed). Listed 4 things in there. I didn't try to read what they were, but it seemed to be comments with respect to my profile.

Well, my fate is sealed; yet we can still be polite.

Thanks for all the input.

 

[rwhite002]

What are the Essays for the secondaries? Thanks!!

 

[StrikeX2]

you can get to the secondary here. you dont need to wait for tmdsas verification to begin filling out ur secondary.

https://studentaffairs.swmed.org/gateway2/login.aspx?ReturnUrl=/gateway2/views/mygateway.aspx

on a side note, for those of you guys who did the hipaa elearnings, how many elearnings were there? I distinctly remember seeing two elearnings when I opened it this afternoon. Logging back just now, I only see one. thanks guys!