AF was my first preference and I was waitlisted. Interviewed 11/7 and heard back last week. Keeping my fingers crossed that the waitlist moves quickly though!Anyone who preferenced air force accepted yet? I feel like I've only seen army and navy.
AF was my first preference and I was waitlisted. Interviewed 11/7 and heard back last week. Keeping my fingers crossed that the waitlist moves quickly though!Anyone who preferenced air force accepted yet? I feel like I've only seen army and navy.
inAF was my first preference and I was waitlisted. Interviewed 11/7 and heard back last week. Keeping my fingers crossed that the waitlist moves quickly though!
Haha i'm sure we know each other then, since our interview group was so friendly! I'm sure you'll hear back soon, and I hope it's all good news!I interviewed the same day! Haven't heard anything yet though. Crossing my fingers X
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Interviewed 10/31 and still haven't heard a word. No call about acceptance or letters about wait-list/alternate/hold. The only special circumstance for me is that I'm waiting on a medical waiver to clear. Anybody else from Oct. not hear back yet?
I just got notified that they can't give me a waiver for a knee injury I received during military training. I'm definitely disappointed but wish you all the best.
That's my picture in the avatar - I'm 6'1" and 230 lbs.; I can do 18 pullups, 85 pushups, 90 situps in a minute and run the 1.5 miles in 10:30. But, per Navy standards, I should not exceed 206 lbs, therefore I get taped every time.
I just had my periodic health assessment. I was considered obese. As a matter of fact, I was considered high-risk for health issues, because I only eat 1 cup of fruit per day (I take a multivitamin), I don't sleep enough (I sleep as much my body wants to), I floss periodically (every other day, probably), I'm obese, and there was something else I can't remember. The point I am trying to make is that it is entirely unsophisticated to group everyone (who are different) into a set of rules (that are the same).
Neither of the examples I mentioned above are major issues, in fact, my colleagues and I find them funny; however, the collection of bureaucratic nonsense is a serious matter and it is driving many good people away from the military. I am separating from the military to pursue medical school and did not apply to USUHS, HCSP, or HPSP whose payback commitments I find to be surreptitious, because my experiences during 5-years as a Naval Officer could not justify it.
I feel obligated to caution everyone without prior military experience against devoting approximately 17+ years (4 years medical school +7, X years residency x 2, plus GMO years, if Navy) of your life to the military medicine without having yet experienced it. I'm not urging you to not do it, but it's a huge commitment, so be cautious with your decision.
Importantly, good luck!
I am 5'8 and 180 lbs; and I have roughly the same fitness numbers as you do. I do think the weight standards are a little silly, but you gotta admit that it is a quick and standard way to weed out some who may not do so well in the military. In all seriousness, does it matter how strong you are when you have a gun?
I respect your caution of military medicine, but I have a different experience. I dreamed of being in the NAVY when I was a kid. In fact, fleet week was the best time of my life. During college, I found my passion in science, yet I still wanted to be in the military. Something about the clean and fit lifestyle with the periodic adventures really spoke out to me. Maybe it's because I grew up low-income and never had the opportunity to travel, ever. All in all, military medicine is the convergence of 3 things that are very important to me right now: military, science, and adventure. Most importantly, I can see myself making a career out of military medicine.
They made their decision prior to the interview based on the information in my packet. They received my application in early October. I don't know if that helps you at all.Hey Darth Doc, I'm in the waiver process right now. How long did they take to get back to you about the knee injury? It's been 3 weeks for me and still waiting
I respect your opinion. As a kid, I too grew up dreaming of joining the military. In fact, I grew up on a military base, because my mother and father were enlisted Marines. Like you, I never had the opportunity to travel until I deployed to Afghanistan, which I requested and extended, because I found the work so meaningful. Besides that deployment, my experience and that of my colleagues has been completely traditional-corporate; i.e. zero adventure with a lack of creativity and innovation. But, that's not too far off from most jobs, but it's very different from the job I expect to have as a physician, which is why the military is no longer an option for me and may not be for some of you.
Go figure, that the vision you had as a kid is betrayed by your adult reality. It would be a tough, 17-year lesson to figure out that the adventure you seek is no where to be found, and that the freedom you seek to practice a speciality of your choosing is also out of reach. And, should you choose to specialize, you will be faced with an income-disparity that will seem unfair until you pay-back your obligated time and sign up for many more years to get the big multi-year retention bonus, should they offer it; and, if they do, your paycheck will still be significantly less than it would be in the civilian sector. That may not seem important now, but that could come at a cost to your family, should you desire to provide in a manner that is on par with your civilian counterparts. These are big decisions to make as a young men and women.
I understand duty, honor and loyalty. I consider it noble to join the military. Yet, as a 31-year old looking to make a positive impact on the world and my family, I find that the military is too restrictive to meet my specific needs. I can't tell you how fortunate I am to have had the opportunity to learn this before being enticed by benefits afforded by USUHS and HPSP. I would be putting on the rank of LCDR next year; instead, I am happy to trade all of that in and take on debt for opportunity as an unrestricted MS1. I'll take opportunity over a pension anyday.
I'm not trying to split hairs, but as a private MS1 you'll also face restrictions. In the 2013 match 78.8% of US MD Seniors matched into one of their Top 3 choices. 82.2% of USUHS seniors matched their first choice internship specialty and first choice training site (versus 53% for the National Match) and 86% matched to their first choice interest specialty. Yes you will face limitations in the military but as a USUHS senior you'll have the edge over your HPSP counterparts and you'll experience match rates exceeding the national average.
I'm not trying to split hairs, but as a private MS1 you'll also face restrictions. In the 2013 match 78.8% of US MD Seniors matched into one of their Top 3 choices. 82.2% of USUHS seniors matched their first choice internship specialty and first choice training site (versus 53% for the National Match) and 86% matched to their first choice interest specialty. Yes you will face limitations in the military but as a USUHS senior you'll have the edge over your HPSP counterparts and you'll experience match rates exceeding the national average.
Hey doc shamrock. I interviewed 11-14. No word yet. I calculate we would hear first week after new years.
That's a good statistic,
Splitting hairs is a good exercise, and I encourage it for decisions as important as this one. As a civilian MS1 you will be restricted by your own ability and achievements; of course residency placement is competitive process and that competition is higher in the civilian sector. Those numbers you presented for military must be taken with a grain of salt, because the military issues you an approved list of specialties to which you are able to apply to for residency, and the military training hospitals are severely limited to mostly 3 teaching hospitals across the DoD (of which I worked at the largest for three years); thus, they are inherently biased. In fact, the military match rates reflect a lower degree of competitiveness for residency programs, and this is a fact not lost on most folks in academic medicine. As a result, a less competitive medical graduate would have a higher chance of getting into a general surgery residency program in the military.
As a style point, MS1 is your first year in medical school, Ms4 year is your last. I am a MS3 at USU, graduating in 2015. Our class was the first class under the new curriculum. During my MS1 and MS2 years, I did numerous tours for applicants and would frequently make one observation, do not go to USUHS if you do not want to serve in military medicine. Bare minimum, you will spend 10 years (after graduating) practicing medicine in the military healthcare system (unless you are one of 2 PHS students). Having just finished my clerkship year rotating at several of our major training hospitals, I can say with some confidence that USUHS graduates have a definitive advantage in the military match. You could conceivably do several rotations in one residency program. If at the end of 3 rotations a program doesn't want you, you were not meant for that program. Additionally, USUHS graduates make up a network in military medicine that makes the service academy monopoly ("ring knockers") on the broader officer corps seem junior varsity. There are many more than 3 training hospitals in the military. All of the residency programs compare well with their civilian counterparts in regards to board pass rates. If you have long-range aspirations of working in a prestigious academic institute, by the time you are able to leave military medicine, your residency program will be much less significant to your competitiveness than your subsequent fellowships and time as an attending physician. To bring it back to my initial observation, if you want to be a military doctor, it is really difficult to find a better option than USUHS. If you just want a free education, HPSP is probably a decent option.
Hubriz has his own reasons for not pursuing a career in military medicine. That's his deal, and his time on the line is appreciated. However, I don't think that many of his views on either military medicine (or height and weight standards) are the most accurate reflections of reality for the majority of candidates. Your best information will probably be found with either current students at USUHS or physicians serving now. If you are a contender (invited for an interview), and on the fence, grab hold of as many MS1 and 2s as you can during your interview or ask LTC Saguil for some contact information on current stude nts. There is a fair amount of disinformation in this forum (one example would be most comments on height-weight requirements). Your best bet is to go to the source, and not rely on other internet adventurers.
Good luck, and I'll see some of you in the fleet.
Yes, what do I know. 🙂
As a style point, MS1 is your first year in medical school, Ms4 year is your last. I am a MS3 at USU, graduating in 2015. Our class was the first class under the new curriculum. During my MS1 and MS2 years, I did numerous tours for applicants and would frequently make one observation, do not go to USUHS if you do not want to serve in military medicine. Bare minimum, you will spend 10 years (after graduating) practicing medicine in the military healthcare system (unless you are one of 2 PHS students). Having just finished my clerkship year rotating at several of our major training hospitals, I can say with some confidence that USUHS graduates have a definitive advantage in the military match. You could conceivably do several rotations in one residency program. If at the end of 3 rotations a program doesn't want you, you were not meant for that program. Additionally, USUHS graduates make up a network in military medicine that makes the service academy monopoly ("ring knockers") on the broader officer corps seem junior varsity. There are many more than 3 training hospitals in the military. All of the residency programs compare well with their civilian counterparts in regards to board pass rates. If you have long-range aspirations of working in a prestigious academic institute, by the time you are able to leave military medicine, your residency program will be much less significant to your competitiveness than your subsequent fellowships and time as an attending physician. To bring it back to my initial observation, if you want to be a military doctor, it is really difficult to find a better option than USUHS. If you just want a free education, HPSP is probably a decent option.
Hubriz has his own reasons for not pursuing a career in military medicine. That's his deal, and his time on the line is appreciated. However, I don't think that many of his views on either military medicine (or height and weight standards) are the most accurate reflections of reality for the majority of candidates. Your best information will probably be found with either current students at USUHS or physicians serving now. If you are a contender (invited for an interview), and on the fence, grab hold of as many MS1 and 2s as you can during your interview or ask LTC Saguil for some contact information on current students. There is a fair amount of disinformation in this forum (one example would be most comments on height-weight requirements). Your best bet is to go to the source, and not rely on other internet adventurers.
Good luck, and I'll see some of you in the fleet.
Currently at another medical school interview with a applicant who interviewed with us on 10/31. Said he heard back last Wednesday about his acceptance into the Air Force. Apparently (the Air Force at least) calls you to extend their offer.
This was almost definitely me. I actually went into this cycle hoping I would end up at the med school you are referring to but I was totally blown away by USUHS and it ended up becoming my #1. On a related note I've been holding a conditional acceptance for a month even though I'm medically cleared is there any reason I should be worried about getting an unconditional? If anyone has any questions for me about stats or anything else feel free to ask I've been lurking for a long time I owe sdn some answers.
I was wondering if anyone has updated USUHS on last term's grades. If so, who did you email them to?
Anyone who interviewed 11/14 or later hear back yet?
P.S. Sorry, but its been almost a month since it was last asked.
I interviewed 11/14 and was conditionally accepted early December
Good luck!
Eek! Thanks for the info. Mind sharing what service?
I got my first choice, Army
On the bright side, they haven't rejected you yet so they must be further considering you. Based off of last years thread, the list moves fast.
I make a little over $2000 every pay period (15th and 30th of the month). This depends on your home state of record, though, as that affects your taxes.Does anyone know exactly the take home pay after taxes an O1 with no prior service or dependents would make per year while at USUHS? Thanks!
I make a little over $2000 every pay period (15th and 30th of the month). This depends on your home state of record, though, as that affects your taxes.
Didn't BAH go down for the area?Number should go up another $40 or so. BAH and pay both increase at the start of the year.
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Didn't BAH go down for the area?
Congratulations! What a wonderful call to receive. Second only to an acceptance.I received a call from Dr. Saguil yesterday saying that I was a very competitive applicant on the wait list and should receive a spot in March or April. Even though it was not an acceptance it is nice to know where I stand. Here's to hoping that my waiver is approved quickly.
I received a call from Dr. Saguil yesterday saying that I was a very competitive applicant on the wait list and should receive a spot in March or April. Even though it was not an acceptance it is nice to know where I stand. Here's to hoping that my waiver is approved quickly.
I received a letter on December 23 that said I was on the wait-list and was dated for December 18. I interviewed November 7.Congratulations! What a wonderful call to receive. Second only to an acceptance.
What date were you waitlisted? thx
I selected Army with Air Force and Navy a close second as I am prior Army enlisted and I interviewed on 11/7.That's awesome medicman. Good luck with the waiver process. If you don't mind sharing, what service did you choose, and what date did you interview? JW for reference as I anxiously await a call myself.
Here is my timeline, some information for those anxiously waiting like I was.
Secondary submitted 7/17/13
Interviewed 10/24/13
Selected Navy
Received waitlist letter on 12/17/13 (Letter was dated 12/4/13)
Body Composition Test (12/6/13 and 1/8/14)- 8 pounds over the limit for my height the first time. Dropped 13 pounds for the second time.
Medical Waiver Process- Submitted additional info for waivers around 11/25/2013. Received a medically qualified status from DODMERB around 1/4/2014.
No phone calls 🙁. USUHS is my top choice, so I hope I get in off the waitlist.