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Should the 30% match within the system be a concern? Wasn't NS-LIJ guaranteeing residency spots as incentive for enrolling in a new med school in case people couldn't match elsewhere?
Should the 30% match within the system be a concern? Wasn't NS-LIJ guaranteeing residency spots as incentive for enrolling in a new med school in case people couldn't match elsewhere?
Very true. I had also been thinking they may disproportionately have wanted to stay on Long Island--the first hofstra class was likely strongly interested in being located there!I don't think this number is surprising. The home program draws a lot from its own even in more established schools. The LIJ programs are plenty strong, no?
It's hard to know the reality of this unless we know where lij ranked on people's lists.
I believe there is also some loan forgiveness on student loans taken out through North Shore-LIJ if you do residency or work there, so that might be an incentive. If you are interested in staying in the area long-term, LIJ is a great place to work.Very true. I had also been thinking they may disproportionately have wanted to stay on Long Island--the first hofstra class was likely strongly interested in being located there!
Should the 30% match within the system be a concern? Wasn't NS-LIJ guaranteeing residency spots as incentive for enrolling in a new med school in case people couldn't match elsewhere?
To those who signed up for revisit weekend: did you receive an e-mail confirmation after filling out the online registration?
I didn't.
How're you guys planning to dress for the revisit weekend? Casual both days?
someone said in the facebook group that Saturday is casual and Sunday is business casual.
Any current students have a match list for hofstra's first class they could share here?
Categorical spotsAny current students have a match list for hofstra's first class they could share here?
Here is my honest opinion of Hofstra.
The 1st year class i believe is composed of stronger applicants than subsequent years due to it's financial aid. If i'm not mistaken, the averages dropped the following year. Anyway, there are many plusses and some negatives to the school. Positives include it's curriculum, EMT training, and being part of a very wealthy system. Negatives include short track record, etc.
Since ~10 ppl decided not to participate in the match, that is literally 25% of the class for whatever reason. That is significantly much higher than other medical schools.
The match list is not bad for a new school, however compared to other schools with comparable avg MCAT/GPAs (Stony, Downstate), the match list is subpar, but since it is a new school, it will probably improve in the future. Also ~25% of the class got #1 choice which is half of national average of 50% for US grads.
For pre meds, and even MS1/MS2s, it's hard to judge a rank list solely based on name of the program because while Yale might sound very impressive and have a very big brand name to the general public, it might not be a great program in certain specialties. (one example is Emergency medicine. The top 3 not order, is NYC/LI is Jacobi, Downstate, NYU, not cornell/columbia, sinai, so just becareful when you are looking at a rank list)
Breaking down the rank list for you, hofstra did very well in Internal medicine. Also props for sending a person into ENT, Ortho, Optho, and Rad Onc, all very competitive specialties. With that said, the rest is subpar/par except here and there.
I marked some opinions below, but keep in mind that Hofstra did well for it's first ever graduating class!
Anesthesiology
Yale-New Haven, CT - mid tier. Less competitive than the 3 Manhattan programs
Emergency Medicine
Hofstra NS-LIJ, NY - uncompetitive
Maimonides, NY- uncompetitive
Maimonides, NY - uncompetitive
NY Presbyterian, NY - mid
Kaweah Delta Health Care District, CA - dont know
Yale-New Haven, CT - mid
Internal Medicine - overall, very strong list for IM
Duke, NC - very competitive
Tufts, MA - mid
Hofstra NS-LIJ, NY - mid
Jefferson, PA - competitive
Mount Sinai, NY - very competitive
Albert Einstein/Montefiore, NY - competitive
Vanderbilt, TN - very competitive
Neurology
Jefferson, PA - very strong program
Hofstra NS-LIJ, NY - weak.
Ophthalmology - any match is good in optho.
Boston University Medical Center, MA
Orthopedic Surgery - any match is good.
Hofstra NS-LIJ, NY
Otolaryngology - any is good
UConn, CT
Pathology
USC, CA
Pediatrics - peds uncompetitive
Jefferson, PA
Hofstra NS-LIJ Cohen's Children's Hospital, NY - mid
PM&R - PMR is uncompetitive in general
Schwab Rebab Hospital, IL
Psychiatry -
Hofstra NS-LIJ Zucker Hillside Hospital, NY
Rad Onc - competitive
SUNY downstate, NY
Radiology - not impressed
Lenox Hill Hospital, NY
Hofstra NS-LIJ, NY
Boston University Medical Center, MA
Surgery - not impressed
Hofstra NS-LIJ, NY
Holy match list, people. I'm not sure when it'll be posted officially on the SOM's page, but, since I know you all are curious, here are some of the highlights. 100% match (29 people), ~30% matched within the health system, almost all of them matched to one of their first four choices, and the majority of the class that did not match within the health system is going to a program where most medical schools have never sent a resident. Big names include: Duke, USC, Yale, MSK, Jefferson, Columbia, Sinai, Einstein, NYU, and Vandy.
Hey guys - had a thought/question that I just wanted to pose to the forum :
How much weight are you placing on the significance of the match results from Hofstra this year? My question arises from the fact that Hofstra SOM's first class was, from what I understand, composed of rock star applicants that were poached with full scholarships. I don't know how objectively competitive I will be in four years, but I am inclined to say that this first graduating class out of Hofstra will be skewed towards the upper end of the competitiveness spectrum because of the quality of candidates in the cohort. Do you all think this will affect the match results this year in ways that make it so that we cannot interpret them as the typical match record for the school on a given year after this one?
Hopefully that wasn't too confusing... Thanks for your thoughts!
Did anyone of you guys get financial aid information? I think we are supposed to get it before April 1st.
Your assessment of the caliber of the programs Hofstra students matched at is accurate, although your interpretation of the results is not. To all applicants: where a student matched at cannot be taken at face value. 30% of the graduating class couples-matched, which is a whole different ballgame. I also want to echo what MedicalStudent2015 said above. Multiple students ranked Hofstra NS-LIJ as #1 or #2 on their ROL, because of proximity to family or because their significant other currently works in the area.
I do wonder if you are a student at Hofstra though. If so, you will know that of the initial class of 40 students, 4 were MD/PhD's, 1 student passed away 2 years ago because of brain cancer, and 6 people took a year off (1 going into derm, 2 considering plastic surgery, 1 going into integrated cardiothoracic surgery, 1 waiting for her husband to couples-match). All of this contributed to only 29 people entering the match, and Hofstra had a 100% match rate for the graduating class.
Yes, IM applicants had a great match. 3 of the 6 AOA students from my class went into IM. The deans of the school (Dr. Smith, Dr. Catanese, Dr. Batonelli) were IM doctors. I am not sure whether that contributed to the strong IM showing (it certainly didn't influence my decision to NOT go into IM).
The inaugural class definitely has a number of high-achieving students who probably could have gone to a top-20 US medical school. From my knowledge, the current MS3s had just as high of average USMLE step 1 score as my class, if not 1-2 points higher. I am not sure what you mean by "averages dropping" (are you talking about college GPA/MCAT scores? if so, I have not seen a single residency who cared about your college GPA/MCAT score). If you can provide contradicting evidence, I am more than happy to admit that I am wrong in this aspect.
In conclusion, I think the match was good, but not exceptional. If ~50% of students got their #1 choice, then you would have seen the likes of BWH, UPenn, UCLA, etc., and everyone would have been "wow"-ed by Hofstra. Yet most of us matched at one of our top-3/4 choices, consistent with national averages.
As Hoya2009 above said, no doors will be closed by your coming to Hofstra. Your chances at cracking into a top academic institution is similar to that of any other non-top 20 US medical school. The rest depends on you.
I agree w you mostly. The reason I left those things out is because couples matching is common everywhere not just hofstra. People couples matching shouldn't have a huge effect. There are couples couples matching to derm/neurosurgery at other schools so I didn't mention it.
I also understand the ppl taking yr off thing. I personally saw it as a negative vs an established school BC as mentioned above, ppl go into deem, rad onc, plastics from many schools including stonybrook downstate Einstein etc and other similar schools. However hofstra had a much larger percentage of ppl taking Yrs off while other ppl in other schools are mostly applying right away unless their applications are deemed lacking. So either the hofstra applicants lack confidence (possibly BC its a new school) or their app was lacking and they want to boost it. Either way applying to derm is nothing new or special so that's why I saw that as a negative compared to established schools but will probably be 'fixed' as time goes on.
Same reasoning w ranking a place 1 due to location. Happens everywhere. Not new w hofstra. Ppl rank stony 1 for being close to spouse etc.
Yes I was mentioning MCAT mainly BC step scores are heavily influenced by curriculum. Many carribean students have 250-270+ but ppl still say US trained are higher quality. But either way its fine. But if current ms3 has higher step score that's definitely a good sign!!
Either way hofstra is doing great for a new school and I have lots of faith for its future successes. However at the moment I would choose Sinai Cornell Columbia over hofstra.
Just got my financial aid award package... Anyone else dissapointed?
Don't see an award on my portal yet, but I resubmitted FAFSA corrections on the 19th. Do you get an email telling you to go check your portal?
Just got my financial aid award package... Anyone else dissapointed?
did anyone get scholarships or is it all loans? I didn't make the priority deadline but I'm jc how the packages look
I received a substantial scholarship. I'll most likely attend here due to it.
I got it today but found out about it at second look.Would you mind telling me if you got a scholarship just now with your financial aid package? Or a while ago? I talked to a few people at the second look day who said they had already gotten merit scholarships... I was wondering if they awarded all of those to people earlier and April 1 was just for the normal loans, etc., or if those people just got their FAFSA stuff in way before me.
Did anybody else not get a financial aid package yet?
I'm pretty sure I submitted all my applications in before March 20.
I got it today but found out about it at second look.
Did you receive a "preliminary" package or is it the actual finalized financial aid package?
They told me on second look that they had a lot of applications so don't be surprised if it's a couple days after April 1 even if you got everything in on time. she said we should hear by next week at the latest
Sorry to ask this again, but does anyone know if Hofstra also has a high priority list, or if it's just one wait list?
Does anyone know if scholarships are usually renewed for the 4 years, or is it only for one year? My package says "annual scholarship", but then the description says it "may be a one time award".
If its need based it is semi renewable. I was told that if your income and your parents income stays the same your award will also be similar but that it will go up or down based on any changes.Does anyone know if scholarships are usually renewed for the 4 years, or is it only for one year? My package says "annual scholarship", but then the description says it "may be a one time award".
Beat me to it :0I asked the same question in response to my aid package. The award is need based, so as long as your need stays the same you can expect a similiar award package each year, although it is not guaranteed.
UPMC?I will be withdrawing this week. I was very impressed but I have a offer from somewhere else I can't refuse. I hope someone else gets my schloarship! Gl to those on the WL.