2014-2015 Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences Application Thread

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Current MSIV here. I'll try to answer a few questions.



This is accurate except I don't know why you would buy another stethoscope, the one they give you is fine. I've been using it throughout my rotations and I don't have any trouble hearing things I need to hear. I don't know anyone in my class who replaced it except for a couple people whose parents gave them one as a gift. This definitely isn't what you need to worry about before you get into school.



Most people do not live within "walking distance" per se. There aren't a lot of apartments that are really close to the school. A lot of people share houses or live in apartments on the Metro. Grosvenor is a popular location. You should really try to find something along the metro because parking is a nightmare at school and it's almost impossible to get a parking permit to park there, unless you're carpooling with at least 2 other people. Even if you end up having clinical rotations at the school or at Walter Reed, you may not be allowed to park on base. This changed since my class started and it has screwed us over because a lot of people live out farther away and were counting on being able to drive in and park. My advice is to make sure that you can get to school without driving from where ever you decide to live. Riding a bike isn't a bad option either. That being said, you can find 1 bedroom apartments from 1500-2000 with varying amenities in the Bethesda area. Finding a 3 or 4 bedroom house and splitting the rent is often a money saver.

Yeah this does sound like a much better idea. Does the school help incoming students find housing? Or are we completely on our own?
 
Yeah this does sound like a much better idea. Does the school help incoming students find housing? Or are we completely on our own?

You're basically on your own. The student spouse's group used to maintain a list of properties that were available but I have no idea if they still do. I'd check craigslist, check out ahrn.com, and usually there's a Facebook group for your incoming class and people can hook up with others who are looking for places. If you have a question about a particular area where you find something, let me know. I share a house with some classmates near Randolph Rd and Veirs Mill. It's not a bad drive, but we've had carpool parking. You can bike from that area too.
 
I applied here August 6 but still haven't received a secondary email yet (as of Aug 10). Did it take a few days for everyone else?

Did your primary get verified on August 6th?

USUHS does not screen for secondaries.
 
My primary was verified back in June from AMCAS... I only just now added the school on the 6th. I expected to receive an automated secondary email within the first two days
It's the weekend now so I wouldn't stress about it yet. See if it comes part way through Monday. If it doesn't it can't hurt to call Tuesday and ask if it was received.
 
My primary was verified back in June from AMCAS... I only just now added the school on the 6th. I expected to receive an automated secondary email within the first two days

You actually don't have to wait for them to send you a secondary. The entire secondary application can be found on USUHS's website. Just go there and start filling it out. When you receive an email, they'll just give you the link to their own website with all the secondary instructions and materials.
 
You actually don't have to wait for them to send you a secondary. The entire secondary application can be found on USUHS's website. Just go there and start filling it out. When you receive an email, they'll just give you the link to their own website with all the secondary instructions and materials.
True. No reason you can't start on it.
 
Sorry for the late post here. Reapplicant from last year. I interviewed 10/24/13, loved USUHS, waitlisted, and removed myself from the waitlist due to personal reasons (I probably wouldn't have gotten off the waitlist anyways). USUHS = my number 1 school after interview. Still is.

Submitted Secondaries 7/10. Confirmation 7/15. Retaking the MCAT in 9/12/14, so probably not getting an interview invite until at least a month after.

Stats for the nosy since somebody will probably ask me. 3.6 GPA, 31/28/X MCAT, solid ECs if you ask me. Compared to somebody else... I don't know.
 
When yall are talking about receiving a packet in the mail for medical, what all was contained in that? I have not received the mail version, but I can get into everything on dodmets. Is it fine to just go ahead and do all of my scheduling now with the info listed there?

How long after giving your SSN did you log onto dodmets?
 
Hey, I've been dying to go to USUHS since I've heard about it, but I'm not to sure about my academics.

3.2/s 3.1 undergrad. 27 MCAT first time applying 3 years ago
Done a MBS at Tufts, have a 3.64, and 30 MCAT

300 hours volunteering at hospital since 14
4 years as an EMT
2 Year Paramedic (900 hours internship)
Also volunteered at a marathon as a medical help.

AMCAS Verified 7/28
USUHS App completed 8/7

Am I on track to get an interview?
 
Reapplicant here! Rejected pre-interview last year. ~3.0 sGPA, ~3.2 cGPA, 32 MCAT, ~5 yrs direct patient care experience and currently doing a post bacc graduate program. I'm not putting to much faith in being offered an II this year (I assume they'll want to wait until I'm done with my post-bacc?), but I applied and submitted my secondary in July, so hoping anyway! Good luck to all other applicants and congrats on those who already received IIs.
 
Hey, I've been dying to go to USUHS since I've heard about it, but I'm not to sure about my academics.

3.2/s 3.1 undergrad. 27 MCAT first time applying 3 years ago
Done a MBS at Tufts, have a 3.64, and 30 MCAT

300 hours volunteering at hospital since 14
4 years as an EMT
2 Year Paramedic (900 hours internship)
Also volunteered at a marathon as a medical help.

AMCAS Verified 7/28
USUHS App completed 8/7

Am I on track to get an interview?

Can't say for sure, but I'm hoping you're good because that's where I hope to be in a year from now (after I finish my post-bacc)! I visited USUHS last year and they said that they seem to look pretty highly upon post-bacc work as long as you performed well, have a good MCAT, and are an overall good fit for the school.
 
I think I am in trouble. I can barely do just 10 pushups....am I screwed?

Haha I love the little discussion on this topic. You can start training right now! Just do a few every moment you get, and you will easily get to 30! I actually did not make the weight limit before my physical exam, and all that happens is you get to re-take it a month later. I'm 5'8", usually 185lbs. I had to cut weight to get down to the limit last year. The silly part is that it is all tape measure, so if you don't make the weight it is very hard to pass. Just some of my 2 cents.

Also for funzies.

Pushup #- just did 80.
Pull-up #- did 25 max out yesterday
2 mile time: 13 mins flat (before I sprained my ankle).
Sit-ups- Never maxed out and hardly do them. probably do ~ 35.
 
Does anyone know what the process is if you have to be taped for body fat % for exceeding the max weight? I've been looking at the requirements, and I'm pretty sure that's going to be the case for me, so was just wondering how much time that tacks on to the process. Thanks!


sure do. Skip to page 37 if you only care about the charts. http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r600_9.pdf
Based on my experience last year, it seems passing the weight limit is much easier (see my comment above for more details). I think the process to qualify if you do not make the weight limit is a waiver process, which will delay your application and has potential to be denied. Get on an training program and work your ass off is my best advice to you.
 
Haha I love the little discussion on this topic. You can start training right now! Just do a few every moment you get, and you will easily get to 30! I actually did not make the weight limit before my physical exam, and all that happens is you get to re-take it a month later. I'm 5'8", usually 185lbs. I had to cut weight to get down to the limit last year. The silly part is that it is all tape measure, so if you don't make the weight it is very hard to pass. Just some of my 2 cents.

Also for funzies.

Pushup #- just did 80.
Pull-up #- did 25 max out yesterday
2 mile time: 13 mins flat (before I sprained my ankle).
Sit-ups- Never maxed out and hardly do them. probably do ~ 35.

@snappaz Do you know if they are very strict on minimum weight limit as well? I was initially 7 lbs short 2 weeks ago and I did my best to gain 4 lbs since then.. but I am still currently 3 lbs short of their minimum weight for my height. I have my physical exam in 10 days and I am afraid if I wouldn't meet their minimum weight... It's pretty hard for me to gain weight because I'm a 5'2" girl who had a pretty stable weight throughout my life... (max fluctuation of about +/- 2lbs)
 
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I just scheduled my physical as well! Going to complete it well before my Sept. interview.
 
@snappaz Do you know if they are very strict on minimum weight limit as well? I was initially 7 lbs short 2 weeks ago and I did my best to gain 4 lbs since then.. but I am still currently 3 lbs short of their minimum weight for my height. I have my physical exam in 10 days and I am afraid if I wouldn't meet their minimum weight... It's pretty hard for me to gain weight because I'm a 5'2" girl who had a pretty stable weight throughout my life... (max fluctuation of about +/- 2lbs)

DrMinion, I do not know the answer to that, but I would suggest keeping your shoes on, eating before, and wearing a thick sweater to the weigh-ins. Stuff your pockets with rocks? I don't know. The physical exam is a hospital weigh-in procedure. They do not strip you down and make you weigh in officially. They can also just ask you what your weight is, and you just tell them what you think it is (over the minimum, I hope).

What I neglected to tell you (sorry, it was last year) all is that the tape measure stuff only occurs if you do not make weight requirements at the physical exam. Then you will have to go to a military recruiting station for them to weigh and measure you. Here is what happened to me:

1. Physical exam- they simply asked me what my weight was and I said 184 (max for my height is 174).
2. Had to go to the Marine recruiting station for a tape measure (I went in at 185 thinking this was a simple body fat assessment, and I failed because it was a tape measure calculation for body fat %. I think I would've passed if they used calipers.) Considering I was 205 a few months prior due to a lot of heavy weight lifting, I figured 185 was skinny enough and would be suffice. I was pretty chunky last year. Huge mistake.
3. I had to re-take the body assessment a month later (month later because that is the minimum time before you can redo) - In that time, I stopped lifting weights, did more cardio work, and I did some last minute weight cutting to get to 169 lbs (just in case they measured me at 5'7. I was 5'7.5 but the marine station rounded me up to 5'8). I passed, and this was in January! I interviewed in late October last year. That's how much failing these little things can affect your application status!

I hope you all can learn something useful from my anecdotal experience. Have a good night ya'll.
 
Applied here. Scored pretty low on the MCAT, so not really expecting an interview. But would love to go here! Prior service. Hoorah Navy!
 
So heavy-lifting isn't a good idea for training? I mean if it is done by tape yeah im probably screwed too. But this is the lowest body fat Ive ever had and I do body building, and have been for the past 2 years to prepare for the military.
Height: 5'10
Weight: 205
Pushups: 40
Sit ups: 40 (still working on a faster technique)
2 mile run: Havent attempted yet.
Pull ups: most I have is 15, depends on how low the bar is
Curls: I can usually curl 45 on each arm on a normal day 15 times, on a good day it is 50.
Bench: Anywhere between 215 and 230 15 times
lol
 
sure do. Skip to page 37 if you only care about the charts. http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r600_9.pdf
Based on my experience last year, it seems passing the weight limit is much easier (see my comment above for more details). I think the process to qualify if you do not make the weight limit is a waiver process, which will delay your application and has potential to be denied. Get on an training program and work your ass off is my best advice to you.

Thanks! I appreciate you sharing your experience. I guess I have an odd body type, in that I'm probably one of the few who will have no problem passing the tape test (tiny waist), but would probably have to starve myself to meet the weight requirements. I'll continue to up my cardio in the hopes of not needing that added step, but appreciate knowing exactly where I need to be tape-wise too.
 
So heavy-lifting isn't a good idea for training? I mean if it is done by tape yeah im probably screwed too. But this is the lowest body fat Ive ever had and I do body building, and have been for the past 2 years to prepare for the military.
Height: 5'10
Weight: 205
Pushups: 40
Sit ups: 40 (still working on a faster technique)
2 mile run: Havent attempted yet.
Pull ups: most I have is 15, depends on how low the bar is
Curls: I can usually curl 45 on each arm on a normal day 15 times, on a good day it is 50.
Bench: Anywhere between 215 and 230 15 times
lol

Saxappeal, did you get an II? If so, congrats!
 
Nah not yet, still waiting. Verified 8/14. How long did it take you after you were verified Sean?
 
Nah not yet, still waiting. Verified 8/14. How long did it take you after you were verified Sean?

No worries then! My application was marked complete (secondary received, letters received, prereqs deemed satisfactory) and forwarded to review on July 16th. I got my II exactly three weeks later.

Assuming the same timeline, you'll probably get an II early September for an October interview, which (I think) is still very early, even for USUHS.
 
Thanks! I appreciate you sharing your experience. I guess I have an odd body type, in that I'm probably one of the few who will have no problem passing the tape test (tiny waist), but would probably have to starve myself to meet the weight requirements. I'll continue to up my cardio in the hopes of not needing that added step, but appreciate knowing exactly where I need to be tape-wise too.

All that info is in the link I posted, but here it is anyways. They will 1) take your height and weight, 2) tape you around the neck, 3) tape you around the stomach area right below the belly button, then 4) take those measurements and match it to a chart to determine body fat %.

The chart is in the link I posted. Hope that helps.
 
I am sure some have said this already, but I just want to clarify that if you meet the weight range for your height, then there will be no tape-measuring or body fat analysis.
 
2 minutes isn't a lot of time willis. If I had more time, I could do a lot more. I am accustomed to a certain bar height at my gym, I've tried other heights and it doesn't work as well.
 
I think I was going too slow for pushups. I know I can do more. Same withsitups. Is there a video that demonstrates the proper form for sit ups and pushups? Because also for sit ups I am doing too slow, and I know I can do more.
Also, do they perform a pullup test or a curl/bench test anyway or is that just irrelevant?
 
And, the 40 pushups in 2 minutes was my diagnostic score. The first time I did it so I knw I can do more
 
Saxappeal1, try incorporating pushups in your workouts. I do about an hour on chest, presses and flies. And then at the end, I burnout on pushups. My chest is usually fried by then, so you can really feel the burn. I usually do around 500-600 pushups at the end. Usually takes about 10 to 15 sets, but it helps a lot! When I was in the Navy, I used to max out on pushups 100+ at the PFT because of this trick. Good luck!
 
Ok sure, my mistake was probably benching like a bodybuilder. So my only chest workout should be pushups now?
 
Well I do bodybuilding as well. You don't have to change any of your workouts, just add pushups, pull ups, and situps. Can't expect to squat 400 lbs if you don't squat.
 
I generally work pushups in with benching. set of 5 225 bench, 10 pushups, repeat 3 times. So should I just make it like 50 at the beginning?
 
I've got a quick question regarding pay during residency.

When you finish USUHS and start residency, you get promoted to O-3 (captain) with <2 years experience. When you continue residency, does your captain's salary increases every year as your time in service increases? I understand that while in USUHS, you get paid the same salary all four years (O-1 with no prior), but when you become a captain, does your salary increase every year?

For example, at the beginning of residency I'll make O-3 with <2 years experience. At the 4th year of residency, will I make O-3 with 4 years of experience, which is quite a bit higher than O-3 with <2 years experience?

Thanks!
 
I've got a quick question regarding pay during residency.

When you finish USUHS and start residency, you get promoted to O-3 (captain) with <2 years experience. When you continue residency, does your captain's salary increases every year as your time in service increases? I understand that while in USUHS, you get paid the same salary all four years (O-1 with no prior), but when you become a captain, does your salary increase every year?

For example, at the beginning of residency I'll make O-3 with <2 years experience. At the 4th year of residency, will I make O-3 with 4 years of experience, which is quite a bit higher than O-3 with <2 years experience?

Thanks!

Yes, after school the years in service accumulate appropriately.
 
I just completed my physical and eye exams. Both were over extremely quickly, much much much faster/better than MEPS!

I didn't even do a urine/blood test at the DoDMERB physical, which is nice.
 
I just completed my physical and eye exams. Both were over extremely quickly, much much much faster/better than MEPS!

I didn't even do a urine/blood test at the DoDMERB physical, which is nice.

For physical, how was it like? If there's no urine/blood test, then was it just like a quick medical history checkup and height/weight measurement? I have my physical scheduled this Friday and I'm still working on meeting the minimum weight requirement ;( ughhh
 
For physical, how was it like? If there's no urine/blood test, then was it just like a quick medical history checkup and height/weight measurement? I have my physical scheduled this Friday and I'm still working on meeting the minimum weight requirement ;( ughhh

I think the physical will vary somewhat depending on the person. I've heard many people doing a urinalysis for DoDMERB exams, but no one asked me to do it during my exam. Overall, the physical is extremely chill and low-key.

Here's what I did:

Eye Exam:
It only took me around 10 minutes. In addition to checking my eyes, I had to do a depth perception and color test, both of which I got 100%.

Physical:
It includes a blood pressure test, an audio test, and a full body physical in which a physician (or PA) listens for your heart rate, checks the movement of your joints, pushes down on your stomach, etc. And yest, you'll have to strip yourself down for the genital examination, but this part is very quick. As for height/weight, they'll probably just ask you for your measurements and basically take your word for it. However, don't quote me on that.

Keep in mind that what you'll be asked to do might be slightly different from what I've listed above. But for the most part, it'll be a cakewalk.
 
I think the physical will vary somewhat depending on the person. I've heard many people doing a urinalysis for DoDMERB exams, but no one asked me to do it during my exam. Overall, the physical is extremely chill and low-key.

Here's what I did:

Eye Exam:
It only took me around 10 minutes. In addition to checking my eyes, I had to do a depth perception and color test, both of which I got 100%.

Physical:
It includes a blood pressure test, an audio test, and a full body physical in which a physician (or PA) listens for your heart rate, checks the movement of your joints, pushes down on your stomach, etc. And yest, you'll have to strip yourself down for the genital examination, but this part is very quick. As for height/weight, they'll probably just ask you for your measurements and basically take your word for it. However, don't quote me on that.

Keep in mind that what you'll be asked to do might be slightly different from what I've listed above. But for the most part, it'll be a cakewalk.

Thanks so much for clarification! Hopefully mine goes well too!
 
Thanks so much for clarification! Hopefully mine goes well too!

And I forgot to mention, they'll also ask you to read out loud a really hilarious paragraph in order to see if you can pronounce words fluently without stuttering. The paragraph is about some weird grandfather.
 
Speaking of the physical, is that the only medical thing we have to do in order to attend USUHS? Or is there some additional medical exam later down the road?
 
They're supposed to have a urine test. There is a spot on the form for it. Just dipstick though so it doesn't have to go off to the lab.

Are you sure? Because no one asked me to do a urine test! And I was reading forums on the Internet and it seems that some other people also didn't have to do a urine test.
 
I can verify that. Just finished my physical and I had to give a urine sample.

Oh wow...I actually went back to my testing place and asked them about the urine sample. They told me that they are no longer required?!?!

Looks like I have to call DoDMETS...
 
I can verify that. Just finished my physical and I had to give a urine sample.

Just heard back from DoDMETS....

You do NOT need to give an urine sample unless the results of the basic physical suggest otherwise. If you need to give a sample, you will be contacted!
 
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