2016-2017 Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai Application Thread

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Congrats!!! Did you get an email or portal change?
 
Also, does anyone know if they release acceptances in order of interview date?
 
Does anyone know if deferred people will hear any sort of official accept/waitlist/reject decision or is the deferral email essentially a waitlist? (I was deferred in December and am just wondering if I should expect to hear anything from them before May or like ever.)
 
happypenguin28 said:
Does anyone know if deferred people will hear any sort of official accept/waitlist/reject decision or is the deferral email essentially a waitlist? (I was deferred in December and am just wondering if I should expect to hear anything from them before May or like ever.)
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Last year deferrals got a decision in early March. The year before that they didn't. I called and was told once that they would send "something" pertaining to our status. So I'm not sure
 
Well damn.. was not expecting today to be the day

Any more SDN acceptances from today out there or just the 2 so far? Last year there were 7 reported on the Friday


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linsanity17 said:
Well damn.. was not expecting today to be the day

Any more SDN acceptances from today out there or just the 2 so far? Last year there were 7 reported on the Friday


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Seems like just the two. Fingers crossed for tomorrow.

Congrats, though, to those who did get in. Ave, Imperator, morituri te salutant, and all that. 🙂
 
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Agreed! any idea why they would scatter it out? Trying my hardest to keep the hope levels up tonight sigh


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I think someone mentioned this before, but last years thread put most acceptances on Fridays generally, with rejects and wait lists the following Mondays. Not sure if the pattern will hold true for this cycle.

As for why they have decided to scatter acceptances, my paranoid and overwrought mind firmly believes that medical schools enjoy toying with our emotions.
 
TulipF said:
I think someone mentioned this before, but last years thread put most acceptances on Fridays generally, with rejects and wait lists the following Mondays. Not sure if the pattern will hold true for this cycle.

As for why they have decided to scatter acceptances, my paranoid and overwrought mind firmly believes that medical schools enjoy toying with our emotions.
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Went on a little neurotic search: the acceptance dates in December January and March of the last cycle and November and January of this cycle were all on Fridays. Have to believe that this March is not going to break that pattern!!


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Code_Red said:
I was accepted earlier today. Interviewed beginning of January.
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Frack. Looks like they may have broken the pattern.

linsanity17 said:
Went on a little neurotic search: the acceptance dates in December January and March of the last cycle and November and January of this cycle were all on Fridays. Have to believe that this March is not going to break that pattern!!


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Does anyone know if deferred applicants will be updated on their status?
 
22:) said:
Does anyone know if deferred applicants will be updated on their status?
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I'm unsure but I've called about this a few times and haven't gotten a good response (they have indicated an update sometimes and other times were completely unclear)
 
trying so hard not to be obssessive about this... but... geez just want to get some kind of update. i guess this is why they say dont get super attached to one school during application cycle
 
linsanity17 said:
Hmm maybe something at 3:30 again today? Sigh wishful thinking


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Clearly the admissions office is active. Just got an email from them. Naturally, it had nothing at all to do with my MD application. *Sigh*
 
TulipF said:
Trying. They are not picking up. Phone just rings on for a day and an age before going to the busy tone. No way to leave a voice mail either. Aren't the business hours 9-5?
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Oh blast it. I give up. After 4 tries, I am assuming they are not there or just unwilling to pick up the phone. Either way, this is ridiculous. Our interview group was told that we were supposed to hear 4 weeks ago. Probably the subject of my next rant-esque sentences has been raised before, but what happened to courtesy? It feels like this entire application process is entirely devoid of any on part of the medical schools. I am not referring to Icahn in particular, but generally across the board. Between the "ghosting" rejections and the lack of any (any - at this point, I would be please with a "Sorry, we're overburdened right now, we'll let you know some time between May and never") communication of what is going on, this entire farcical application process has been an exercise in how much can we demand from our applicants while giving next to nothing in return. I am not asking for acceptances, I am asking for basic professional courtesy. Icahn hasn't been so bad (except for the lack of communication ~ if you can take the time to send me junk mail, you can definitely update me on my application status), but some other places and some of the other stories I have heard...

Someone on last year's thread said that this whole experience has been "humbling" and that they cherished the application experience. I don't. I just feel tired. If I had more energy, I would probably feel angry, but I am well past that point. How is it that undergraduate colleges who receive easily more than 3 times the number of applications are more able to provide basic courtesy than medical schools? I am well aware "it is just the way things are" and that if I want to get in I "just have to go through the process just like everyone else" (which I did, and I did). Nevertheless, just because something is done this way, doesn't mean it is the right way.

I could go on, but I really hate being the person who rants on the internet. Although, looking back at this post, that ship may have already sailed.
 
TulipF said:
Oh blast it. I give up. After 4 tries, I am assuming they are not there or just unwilling to pick up the phone. Either way, this is ridiculous. Our interview group was told that we were supposed to hear 4 weeks ago. Probably the subject of my next rant-esque sentences has been raised before, but what happened to courtesy? It feels like this entire application process is entirely devoid of any on part of the medical schools. I am not referring to Icahn in particular, but generally across the board. Between the "ghosting" rejections and the lack of any (any - at this point, I would be please with a "Sorry, we're overburdened right now, we'll let you know some time between May and never") communication of what is going on, this entire farcical application process has been an exercise in how much can we demand from our applicants while giving next to nothing in return. I am not asking for acceptances, I am asking for basic professional courtesy. Icahn hasn't been so bad (except for the lack of communication ~ if you can take the time to send me junk mail, you can definitely update me on my application status), but some other places and some of the other stories I have heard...

Someone on last year's thread said that this whole experience has been "humbling" and that they cherished the application experience. I don't. I just feel tired. If I had more energy, I would probably feel angry, but I am well past that point. How is it that undergraduate colleges who receive easily more than 3 times the number of applications are more able to provide basic courtesy than medical schools? I am well aware "it is just the way things are" and that if I want to get in I "just have to go through the process just like everyone else" (which I did, and I did). Nevertheless, just because something is done this way, doesn't mean it is the right way.

I could go on, but I really hate being the person who rants on the internet. Although, looking back at this post, that ship may have already sailed.
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Absolutely well said. I want to go to school with you haha. This process is exhausting. Out of curiosity what is the junk mail that you (and others) received from Sinai? I am deferred right now and did not get that correspondence
 
Drp695 said:
Absolutely well said. I want to go to school with you haha. This process is exhausting. Out of curiosity what is the junk mail that you (and others) received from Sinai? I am deferred right now and did not get that correspondence
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It is just stuff about applying to their MPH program or certificate of clinical research or some-such like that. I made the mistake of handing over my email to them in my junior year when I was still looking for ways to fill the gap year I wanted to take. Mt. Sinai does not post any information online and emailing them was the only way to get any information. Unfortunately, once they have your email, they never quit, despite unsubscribing.
 
linsanity17 said:
Sigh this process is just so hard y'all, I absolutely feel you Tulip


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Hard isn't so much the issue. If we are trying to become doctors, we have essentially signed up for a lifetime of "hard." I don't mind the amount of work that has to go into the application process (the pre-reqs, the studying for the MCAT, the absurd amount of essay writing ~ Did you know by this point I could have written a novel? The average mystery novel is around 60,000 words in length. I have written roughly 70,000. More, if you count all the drafts and scrap.). What I do mind is the exclusionary and discourteous aspects of applying. I've talked about discourtesy before, so I will stick to exclusionary. Every medical school out there claims they want "diversity" and yet make the mere process of applying so costly, immediately narrowing their applicant pool to at least middle class or above applicants. I am lucky that I have enough financial support that I can shell out roughly $900 in a single day for primary applications and $1800 in the space of a month for secondary applications without any concern. Not everyone can, nor should they have to. Even with AMCAS Fee waivers, the cost is still inordinate for applicants who are just starting out and are on their own. I am not saying it is impossible to pay these application fees (people do save up), but it just makes the process just that much more and unnecessarily harder.

On top of that, what is with schools that send secondary applications to applicants that they either know they won't accept or so late in the cycle, the likelihood of acceptance is so incredibly slim? I understand some schools are trying genuinely to get a holistic picture of their applicants and therefore a secondary application really can make the difference, but for schools that are more GPA or MCAT oriented, who won't even consider a candidate that doesn't have acceptable (to them) statistics, they should be upfront and fair to applicants by filtering applications and sending secondaries only to whom they genuinely are interested in. Alongside sending secondaries to applicants on the last week that schools have interview slots open, this is just a sleazy and unethical money grab on the part of the medical schools.

The problems tick on. I remember, once, years ago, having the opportunity to sit down and discuss medical school applications with a friend of my mother's, who happened to be a former member of an admissions committee in one of the medical schools in the southern part of the U.S. (I wasn't interested in applying to the school). I remember him telling me that admissions committees are well aware that some medical school applicants use essay writing and letter writing services to write their primary and secondary applications, and that they (the ad coms) consequently took what they were reading lightly, treating the essays as a lesser piece of the whole application process. I was appalled. For starters, it has never even occurred to me (Yes, I know I am a naive child) that someone would go as far as to get someone else to write their essays. It is like using steroids or performance enhancing drugs when doing sports ~ cheating. It greatly disadvantages those who are competing on their own merit and skill. I am a good writer, but I can't compete with someone who has been writing professionally for 30 years. Secondly, I was pissed ~ if ad coms know this is happening, why haven't they done anything to prevent this? It could be just this one case of a jaded committee member, but even so, there are measures that they can taken if ad coms really do suspect this. Some graduate and undergraduate programs run the essays they receive through plagiarism and writing style checkers. However, this school just chose to do nothing, turning all the applicants hard work into a fool's errand and the application process itself less meaningful.

Oh God, I'm back to ranting again. Someone, anyone - please confiscate my keyboard until such time that I can be relied on to internet responsibly. :troll:

Wait. One last thing, and I swear I'll stop ranting about this. It was not always this way. The application process was significantly different 20 years ago. I've asked around and confirmed this. This means that there is a different way of selecting people who you think will do well or be a credit to your institution. I am not so much for going back in time, but I do wish someone would ask the medical schools to introspect a little.
 
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linsanity17 said:
Damn just realized I was drinking my troubles away when I wrote this last night hahahaha


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Probably my response comment was a bit overkill, huh? If it helps you have waaaaaay better control of the English language when drinking your troubles away than I do. Apparently I break out into sporadic bursts of sign language that is mostly just cursing and calling people "malformed cows."

It could be worse. My friend likes to nibble on stranger's ears when she gets drunk.
 
I suppose that if there's good news at the end of this wait it won't be too bad, or will at least help us forget the delay. But if we're all just waiting around to learn that there is more waiting to be done (via waitlisting), then that'd just be agonizing. Especially since every weekday feels like it's a "maybe today" kind of day.
 
TulipF said:
Hard isn't so much the issue. If we are trying to become doctors, we have essentially signed up for a lifetime of "hard." I don't mind the amount of work that has to go into the application process (the pre-reqs, the studying for the MCAT, the absurd amount of essay writing ~ Did you know by this point I could have written a novel? The average mystery novel is around 60,000 words in length. I have written roughly 70,000. More, if you count all the drafts and scrap.). What I do mind is the exclusionary and discourteous aspects of applying. I've talked about discourtesy before, so I will stick to exclusionary. Every medical school out there claims they want "diversity" and yet make the mere process of applying so costly, immediately narrowing their applicant pool to at least middle class or above applicants. I am lucky that I have enough financial support that I can shell out roughly $900 in a single day for primary applications and $1800 in the space of a month for secondary applications without any concern. Not everyone can, nor should they have to. Even with AMCAS Fee waivers, the cost is still inordinate for applicants who are just starting out and are on their own. I am not saying it is impossible to pay these application fees (people do save up), but it just makes the process just that much more and unnecessarily harder.

On top of that, what is with schools that send secondary applications to applicants that they either know they won't accept or so late in the cycle, the likelihood of acceptance is so incredibly slim? I understand some schools are trying genuinely to get a holistic picture of their applicants and therefore a secondary application really can make the difference, but for schools that are more GPA or MCAT oriented, who won't even consider a candidate that doesn't have acceptable (to them) statistics, they should be upfront and fair to applicants by filtering applications and sending secondaries only to whom they genuinely are interested in. Alongside sending secondaries to applicants on the last week that schools have interview slots open, this is just a sleazy and unethical money grab on the part of the medical schools.

The problems tick on. I remember, once, years ago, having the opportunity to sit down and discuss medical school applications with a friend of my mother's, who happened to be a former member of an admissions committee in one of the medical schools in the southern part of the U.S. (I wasn't interested in applying to the school). I remember him telling me that admissions committees are well aware that some medical school applicants use essay writing and letter writing services to write their primary and secondary applications, and that they (the ad coms) consequently took what they were reading lightly, treating the essays as a lesser piece of the whole application process. I was appalled. For starters, it has never even occurred to me (Yes, I know I am a naive child) that someone would go as far as to get someone else to write their essays. It is like using steroids or performance enhancing drugs when doing sports ~ cheating. It greatly disadvantages those who are competing on their own merit and skill. I am a good writer, but I can't compete with someone who has been writing professionally for 30 years. Secondly, I was pissed ~ if ad coms know this is happening, why haven't they done anything to prevent this? It could be just this one case of a jaded committee member, but even so, there are measures that they can taken if ad coms really do suspect this. Some graduate and undergraduate programs run the essays they receive through plagiarism and writing style checkers. However, this school just chose to do nothing, turning all the applicants hard work into a fool's errand and the application process itself less meaningful.

Oh God, I'm back to ranting again. Someone, anyone - please confiscate my keyboard until such time that I can be relied on to internet responsibly. :troll:

Wait. One last thing, and I swear I'll stop ranting about this. It was not always this way. The application process was significantly different 20 years ago. I've asked around and confirmed this. This means that there is a different way of selecting people who you think will do well or be a credit to your institution. I am not so much for going back in time, but I do wish someone would ask the medical schools to introspect a little.
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Love these insightful rants. Honestly, dental admissions seems to be so much more courteous and manageable. They receive a super large amount of applications each year too but seem to give out decisions in a timely and organized manner. I'm sure there are things that medical schools could learn from them


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Called Admissions this morning. Newest update is that we may hear back "hopefully by next week." The waiting game continues... Stay strong guys! Hopefully just a few more days of waiting! But it didn't sound like today is the day...
 
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Called Admissions this morning. Newest update is that we may hear back "hopefully by next week." The waiting game continues... Stay strong guys! Hopefully just a few more days of waiting! But it didn't sound like today is the day...
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Is that for deferred applicants?

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Is that for deferred applicants?

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I didn't ask specifically about deferred applicants. My question was more of a general question since they mentioned during my interview day that we would hear back by the end of February.
 
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Called Admissions this morning. Newest update is that we may hear back "hopefully by next week." The waiting game continues... Stay strong guys! Hopefully just a few more days of waiting! But it didn't sound like today is the day...
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What....I can't
 
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I didn't ask specifically about deferred applicants. My question was more of a general question since they mentioned during my interview day that we would hear back by the end of February.
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