2017-2018 Seton Hall - Hackensack Meridian

[jazzmetal]

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Yeah they got back my email and told me things we already know. No secondary, deadline to submit is May 15th, rolling admissions, interviews expected to start mid-late April, will interview until class is full.

Thanks for the confirmations! They never replied to my email or my voicemail. I feel so left out. 😉

 

[euronsilence]

if no ii's by today then probably nothing till next week tuesday

 

[Uveitis]

does anyone know or has anyone heard about what the average MCAT score will be around?

What about science GPA?

If someone had put a gun to my head and made me speculate/guess, I would say somewhere around the range of 3.65 GPA and 510 MCAT range. If I remember correctly, the inaugural class for Hofstra was around 3.60, 33 MCAT (~514) - but that was with a regular application cycle. Its truly hard to say with what we have here. They could easily just go "safe" with a number heavy first class, just to increase the chance of a stronger match score / pass rate, and bragging rights.

 

[lolahola]

So the school offers the 3 year track where you can go straight into residency after 3rd year if they offer the program Hackensack. But what about stuff like Derm/PM&R/etc where they dont offer a residency? The 4th year research elective wouldnt be very helpful when already applying to residency spots, especially in competitive fields like derm. The school seems pretty flexible and do you think they would allow you to take the research year earlier (between clinical and advanced clinical)?

I don’t think there’s any point worrying about these things till IIs when people can actually talk to the people in charge

 

[deleted787552]

Thats what I was confused about because they offer plastics/ortho/rads and those tend to be specialties that require a research year but they said if they have the program, you can just apply after 3rd year. Im already planning on a research yeah wherever I go. I also did get how you could match after 3rd year if you take STEP in january. Maybe they do an internal placement or something like that.

From their timeline, it looks like you'll be taking Step 1 in Jan-Feb and Step 2 in Aprilish so you could theoretically be prepared to go through the match system and start applying then. It seems more likely that if you plan on doing a residency there you would have decided that earlier in the fall of that year to be integrated into it.

 

[aeina]

Tossed primary in the pool! Though a week late. Good luck everyone 🙂

 

[cloudcomputingunicorn]

Do any of you applying have acceptances in hand? Did anyone get into HMS and still apply here? Genuinely curious.

 

[CyrusHabs7695]

Do any of you applying have acceptances in hand? Did anyone get into HMS and still apply here? Genuinely curious.

Im on a few MD WLs, DO acceptance. I saw you got into UCSF, I think. Youd actually go here over there?????


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[WD9201NY]

Do any of you applying have acceptances in hand? Did anyone get into HMS and still apply here? Genuinely curious.

I know a few people applying to Seton Hall who have acceptances, however its because they are NJ residents who havent been accepted to a NJ school yet

 

[buckoh24]

Do any of you applying have acceptances in hand? Did anyone get into HMS and still apply here? Genuinely curious.

I have a MD WL and 1 to hear from. V interested in the school because of the unique curriculum. But I think someone would take HMS because its well established and the school has had time to figure out what works and what doesnt. The administration st SHU have worked at other institutions but there are probably going to be kinks here and there that may need worked out. But the proximity to NYC may attract those who may want to end up there for residency.

 

[captainhindsight]

I have a MD WL and 1 to hear from. V interested in the school because of the unique curriculum. But I think someone would take HMS because its well established and the school has had time to figure out what works and what doesnt. The administration st SHU have worked at other institutions but there are probably going to be kinks here and there that may need worked out. But the proximity to NYC may attract those who may want to end up there for residency.

I have a couple acceptances to MD programs and am on a couple waitlists and would absolutely go here over all but potentially one of them for those reasons

 

[humblethinker]

I have a couple acceptances to MD programs and am on a couple waitlists and would absolutely go here over all but potentially one of them for those reasons

what is it about the other MD program acceptances that weakens them enough to have you consider a brand new program?

 

[captainhindsight]

what is it about the other MD program acceptances that weakens them enough to have you consider a brand new program?

It’s not that the other programs are weakened, I just have personal reasons to move to the area, and that combined with the unique cirriculum, human dimension element etc is enough to bump it up (at least theoretically before I even see the campus lol) plus honestly I think it would be cool to be part of an inaugural class

 

[buckoh24]

It’s not that the other programs are weakened, I just have personal reasons to move to the area, and that combined with the unique cirriculum, human dimension element etc is enough to bump it up (at least theoretically before I even see the campus lol) plus honestly I think it would be cool to be part of an inaugural class

I also think the school will do pretty well in the match because of the location and it being associated with an established school already. Also SHU had a medical school before so I think they have some experience that will help with the startup.

 

[mrlosangeles]

what is it about the other MD program acceptances that weakens them enough to have you consider a brand new program?

Location, location, location.

 

[lolahola]

Location, location, location.

As someone from NJ this is the most love I have ever seen for my state (even though I know most people only like the location because its close to NYC).

 

[mrlosangeles]

As someone from NJ this is the most love I have ever seen for my state (even though I know most people only like the location because its close to NYC).

You'll see a lot of LA/SF people 😎 Plus, Newark Airport is in NJ.

Shrugs.

There is probably IS preference.

 

[Lebron23theking]

They replied to my email about letters of rec. They aren't as flexible as I thought they might be and they are requiring a medical professional to write a lor. I could prob get one but I feel like it's too late in the game to approach someone now. Had two science profs and a supervisor for an extracurricular activity.

 

[deleted867159]

They replied to my email about letters of rec. They aren't as flexible as I thought they might be and they are requiring a medical professional to write a lor. I could prob get one but I feel like it's too late in the game to approach someone now. Had two science profs and a supervisor for an extracurricular activity.

If you have a Committee Letter you'd be fine not having a Medical Professional one.

 

[Lebron23theking]

If you have a Committee Letter you'd be fine not having a Medical Professional one.

My school doesn't do committee letters unfortunately

 

[jazzmetal]

They replied to my email about letters of rec. They aren't as flexible as I thought they might be and they are requiring a medical professional to write a lor. I could prob get one but I feel like it's too late in the game to approach someone now. Had two science profs and a supervisor for an extracurricular activity.

Don't give up without asking someone! Make it easy by including in your request a list of points that would support your application. Seton will accept 4 letters, per MSAR, so use the three you have now and see if you can add even a short letter from a medical professional to meet their requirement so that they'll consider your application complete and review it. They are accepting primaries until May 15, so give yourself at least a few days to see if you can get any traction on this extra letter before you throw in the towel.

 

[Ravali]

From what I understood, the committee letter counts for 2 letters. But Seton hall requires three in total. Is this correct?

 

[Lebron23theking]

Don't give up without asking someone! Make it easy by including in your request a list of points that would support your application. Seton will accept 4 letters, per MSAR, so use the three you have now and see if you can add even a short letter from a medical professional to meet their requirement so that they'll consider your application complete and review it. They are accepting primaries until May 15, so give yourself at least a few days to see if you can get any traction on this extra letter before you throw in the towel.

I appreciate the encouragement ❤️ I'll see what I can do!

 

[humblethinker]

They replied to my email about letters of rec. They aren't as flexible as I thought they might be and they are requiring a medical professional to write a lor. I could prob get one but I feel like it's too late in the game to approach someone now. Had two science profs and a supervisor for an extracurricular activity.

from my understanding a LOR as a formality to add to an application has no value. not having a LOR to check a box will not eliminate you from consideration; everyone has a different circumstance and I am sure they understand that. it would be contrary to the emphasis on holistic admissions if they eliminated you because you didn't check a box that didn't add value to your application --- no two applications are the same...unless your box checking.

 

[deleted867159]

From what I understood, the committee letter counts for 2 letters. But Seton hall requires three in total. Is this correct?

Three are required. They must be from:
1. Health Care Professional
2. Academic Professor
3. Flexible one, can be from physician, professor, supervisor, etc.

Having a Committee Letter will allow you to remove two of the listings above.

So: Yes, you're correct.

 

[clearlystressed]

If you have a Committee Letter you'd be fine not having a Medical Professional one.

How did you receive this information? I asked a similar question through email and they haven't responded yet. Thank you

 

[YellowZebra]

Any idea what exactly they are asking for in "essay" section under their updates.
I have updates I am uploading under Volunteer Activity / Work Experience, but I also have an essay that further explains my motivations for pursuing medicine. Do you think this is appropriate to upload? It's only about a page.

 

[jazzmetal]

How did you receive this information? I asked a similar question through email and they haven't responded yet. Thank you

^^^ See the previous post from @Chicks_Money_Power_Chicks - it's on their website: a committee letter can replace two of the three required individual letters.

 

[CyrusHabs7695]

Any idea what exactly they are asking for in "essay" section under their updates.
I have updates I am uploading under Volunteer Activity / Work Experience, but I also have an essay that further explains my motivations for pursuing medicine. Do you think this is appropriate to upload? It's only about a page.

If its something already talked about it in your primary/personal statement, then no its not worth mentioning

 

[jazzmetal]

Any idea what exactly they are asking for in "essay" section under their updates.
I have updates I am uploading under Volunteer Activity / Work Experience, but I also have an essay that further explains my motivations for pursuing medicine. Do you think this is appropriate to upload? It's only about a page.

They have a box titled "Updated Essay" and you have an update to your essay, so... sounds like a fit to me. I really don't see how it could hurt.

 

[clearlystressed]

I'm just really confused about the part with the recommendation letters. On AMCAS, I don't see a way in which you can modify it. Let's say my committee packet already has 4 letters in it. SHU is meaning to say that those 4 letters are going to substitute for just 2 letters, and thus, one additional letter is required for applying?

 

[euronsilence]

I'm just really confused about the part with the recommendation letters. On AMCAS, I don't see a way in which you can modify it. Let's say my committee packet already has 4 letters in it. SHU is meaning to say that those 4 letters are going to substitute for just 2 letters, and thus, one additional letter is required for applying?

I think all it means is that if you have a committee or packet, then you only need to satisfy two of the letter types (with letters existing in your packet)

 

[deleted906520]

So, my university compiles a committee “packet” which includes like:
Academic professor letter
Biomedical research , doctor letter
Clinical research letter
Volunteer supervisor letter
Scholarship abroad supervisor letter
Committee letter by the premed office

I feel like that’s sufficient...but it’s a packet...

 

[7331poas]

man is this thread more neurotic than others?

If you have a committee letter then send it. If its acceptable they will accommodate. If it isn't then they wont. Unless you had some back-log of "medical professional" letters then worrying has zero purpose here.

 

[buckoh24]

Does anybody know knows the area wanna comment about it?

 

[DelayedGratification]

Does anybody know knows the area wanna comment about it?

what would you like to know? And where are you coming from?

 

[boogiecousins94]

Does anybody know knows the area wanna comment about it?

The Jersey Turnpike is the greatest road in the United States

 

[buckoh24]

what would you like to know? And where are you coming from?

I grew up rural and now live in a city with like 1mil people and did college at a school with 60,000 students. So seton is way different than that. And how safe is the general area? Is it a quiet town? Idk. I know NYC is close.

 

[jazzmetal]

I'm just really confused about the part with the recommendation letters. On AMCAS, I don't see a way in which you can modify it. Let's say my committee packet already has 4 letters in it. SHU is meaning to say that those 4 letters are going to substitute for just 2 letters, and thus, one additional letter is required for applying?

Correct. Either submit three individual letters, or a committee packet plus one more individual letter.

 

[leedle leedle leedle lee]

I'm just really confused about the part with the recommendation letters. On AMCAS, I don't see a way in which you can modify it. Let's say my committee packet already has 4 letters in it. SHU is meaning to say that those 4 letters are going to substitute for just 2 letters, and thus, one additional letter is required for applying?

Seems like the responses to this specific question have all been speculation from the wording on that webpage. Like you said, a committee letter can have multiple letters from a healthcare professional, science professor, etc—they’re compiled together in a single source. It doesn’t make sense that sending the exact same information on 3 separate documents would be acceptable, but pasting them all onto the same one would not. Has anyone actually confirmed this with an admissions person?

 

[jazzmetal]

Seems like the responses to this specific question have all been speculation from the wording on that webpage. Like you said, a committee letter can have multiple letters from a healthcare professional, science professor, etc—they’re compiled together in a single source. It doesn’t make sense that sending the exact same information on 3 separate documents would be acceptable, but pasting them all onto the same one would not. Has anyone actually confirmed this with an admissions person?

I have not, but - a committee letter is what it is. It counts as one letter. That's not speculation; that's the definition.

 

[leedle leedle leedle lee]

I have not, but - a committee letter is what it is. It counts as one letter. That's not speculation; that's the definition.

How to Work with Pre-Health Advisors and Committees - Student Doctor Network

See “letter packet.” There are different types of committee letters.

 

[buckoh24]

Seems like the responses to this specific question have all been speculation from the wording on that webpage. Like you said, a committee letter can have multiple letters from a healthcare professional, science professor, etc—they’re compiled together in a single source. It doesn’t make sense that sending the exact same information on 3 separate documents would be acceptable, but pasting them all onto the same one would not. Has anyone actually confirmed this with an admissions person?

Do committee letters have specific requirements? My school doesnt have one so not too sure. I think schools may have different letters needed for the committee so maybe theirs only hits 2 of the 3 letters needed. Like someone could have done research with a PhD but that isn't a healthcare professional even tho it would count as a research letter for the committee. I agree that its kinda weird to have to submit another if all 3 letter requirements are met in the committee letter but that may just be how they do things. Like one of the schools asking for 1 bio, 1 physics, 1 chem, and 1 humanities. Schools kinda make up their own rules. Idk how flexible SHU will be since its their first cycle.

 

[jazzmetal]

How to Work with Pre-Health Advisors and Committees - Student Doctor Network

See “letter packet.” There are different types of committee letters.

Correct, but by my read (in this article and everywhere else), they count as a single letter no matter how they are bundled.
Not worth arguing about, though. Seton's website reads pretty clearly to me, but of course people should contact admissions directly if they are concerned.

 

[CyrusHabs7695]

You all need to each individually call the school tomorrow and explain your situation and ask them. Nobody on here can give a 100% answer to your questions

 

[jazzmetal]

You all need to each individually call the school tomorrow and explain your situation and ask them. Nobody on here can give a 100% answer to your questions

I think the reason that people are asking here is that Seton is not picking up the phone, or replying to everyone's voicemails and emails.
EDIT: Someone could start a different thread and ask @gonnif, @Goro...

 

[JohnJacobJungler]

man is this thread more neurotic than others?

I think the reason that people are asking here is that Seton is not picking up the phone, or replying to everyone's voicemails and emails.
EDIT: Someone could start a different thread and ask @gonnif, @Goro...

I think the first post is why they are not picking up the phone. I called back in early March and they answered first time. We all just need to wait until the interview season gets underway

 

[WD9201NY]

You all need to each individually call the school tomorrow and explain your situation and ask them. Nobody on here can give a 100% answer to your questions

I concur, if you have the slightest question about this application, I suggest all of you SDNers call Seton Hall tommorow and demand to speak to an admissions representative. If they wont let you speak with one, keep calling. Don't let something as silly as an admissions technicality ruin your chances at a career in medicine.

 

[buckoh24]

also they are probably extremely busy now if they are trying to start interviews in the next couple of weeks and fill the class before their mid july start date. And the phone number they provided me was different than the one on their site. They are probably trying to just take care of the billions of apps they got in 1 week.

 

[mrlosangeles]

I concur, if you have the slightest question about this application, I suggest all of you SDNers call Seton Hall tommorow and demand to speak to an admissions representative. If they wont let you speak with one, keep calling. Don't let something as silly as an admissions technicality ruin your chances at a career in medicine.

I also concur! Make sure to give them your AMCAS ID