2017-2018 University of Pennsylvania (Perelman)

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freesiaparesthesia said:
Am also a white male athlete from California. Will be going elsewhere.
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Now if I can get a black male non-athlete to give up a spot.....lol
 
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UnassumingToad said:
Can any current M1s confirm that Perelman is now pass/fail for the entirety of the didactic curriculum (e.i. until December of M2)? I remember this being advertised at interview day, but after looking at the pamphlet that was handed out, it looks like it is P/F until December of M1, and then H/P/F for the remaining year of classroom learning. Considering all of Perelman's peer institutions are P/F for the didactic years, this is a really major consideration for me, so thank you in advance for any input you have!

Edit: The website says it is P/F until December of M2, so I assume the pamphlet is out of date!!! Would still appreciate confirming this, though.
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Confirmed.
 
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med2018ihope said:
what exactly is internal ranking used for?
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Some schools *supposedly* keep internal rankings and then use "coded language" when making recommendations to residency programs. E.g. "@med2018ihope is a superlative candidate" = @med2018ihope is in the top 10% of our super secret Area 51 rankings vs. "student X is a quality candidate" = student X is whatever.

EDIT: I should add that I didn't know even about this practice until a current Penn student told me about it at my interview day as an example of something Penn does not do.
 
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Talked to a current student yesterday about AOA/internal ranking. Here's what she said (she's a current M1):

"Penn is all pass/fail in the preclinical years, starting with our class (thank goodness!). It’s super super chill, with all tests being multiple choice. Even if you do fail a test you can just retake it - the professors want you to pass, so they do their absolute best to make sure everyone does. They do keep track of grades internally, and there is AOA. However they don’t send internal rankings to residencies or other schools or anything, they mainly keep track to make sure no one is falling behind. AOA thing is kinda dumb, but it’s not a thing on anyone’s mind bc everything is pass/fail and it’s not something you have too much control over in preclinical years (or past that I think - no 3rd or 4th years ever talk about it either). It sounds stressful but it really isn’t - no one seems to care or talk about rankings or anything, and preclinical especially is incredibly relaxed."
 
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I made a throwaway to ask a potentially embarrassing question lol.

Can any current student comment on whether Penn drug tests before pre-clinical? I assume before you enter the clinics, but idk if I should be prepared for a test orientation week. I live in a legal marijuana state, so like I just want to know if I should stop enjoying it a few months in advance! It's cool either way, I just like to know.

Thanks. Hopefully I don't get judged to hard for this haha :angelic:
 
I emailed my faculty interviewer and he forwarded my email to associate director of admissions who said "PSOM changed in January of 2018 the grading of module 2 to Pass/Fail." and "The P/F grade is the only grade that will appear on the student transcript. As far as departmental records are concerned, the information would be used to identify students experiencing difficulty before possible failing. There are study hours and help in all courses to aid the students."
 
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med2018ihope said:
NVM found it! :
Anesthesiology (6)
Brigham and Women’s Hospital
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania x2
Johns Hopkins
NYP-Columbia
NYP-Cornell

Child Neurology (1)
Emory

Dermatology (8)
Hofstra
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania x2
Mayo
NYU
Stanford
UCSF
University of Connecticut
Vanderbilt

Emergency Medicine (11)
Brown
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania x4
Icahn SOM-Mt. Sinai
Icahn SOM-St. Lukes
Maimonides Med Center
MGH x2
Washington

ENT (6)
Cincinnati
Harvard x2
Icahn SOM-Mt. Sinai
Michigan
University at Buffalo

Family Medicine (5)
Colorado
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania
Lancaster x2
University of Illinois

General Surgery (11)
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania x5
Lankenau
Oregon Health and Science University
Temple
University of Rochester
VCU
Yale

Internal Medicine (32)
Brigham and Women’s Hospital x2
Colorado
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania x11
Mayo
MGH x5
NYP-Columbia
NYP-Cornell
NYU x2
UCSF x2
Vanderbilt x2
Washington x2
Yale x2

Interventional Radiology (Integrated) (2)
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania
Icahn SOM-Mt. Sinai

Medicine-Pediatrics (2)
MGH
Yale

Medicine-Psychiatry (1)
Tulane

Neurology (7)
Barnes-Jewish
Brigham and Women’s x2
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania x3
University of Massachusetts

Neurosurgery (3)
Duke
Stanford
UPMC


OBGYN (2)
Emory
UCSF

Ophthalmology (11)
Duke
Harvard
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania
Michigan x2
Mt. Sinai
Northwestern
Pittsburgh
Stanford
University of Miami
University of Southern California

Orthopaedic Surgery (6)
Duke
HSS x2
NYMC-Westchester
NYU
UCSF

Pathology (1)
Brigham and Women’s Hospital

Pediatrics (13)
Boston Children’s x3
CHOP x6
St. Louis Children’s x2
Washington
Yale

Plastic Surgery (Integrated) (2)
Georgetown
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania

Psychiatry (6)
Beth Israel Deaconess
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania x3
UCSF
Yale

Psychiatry-Family Medicine (1)
UPMC

Radiology-Diagnostic (3)
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania
MGH
UPMC

Radiation Oncology (2)
Emory
Stanford

Urology (2)
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania
University of Miami

Other PGY1:
Medicine-Prelim (17)
Beth Israel Deaconess
Brigham and Women’s Hospital
Maryland-Mercy
MGH
Montefiore-New Rochelle
Pennsylvania Hospital x8
SSM St. Mary’s Hospital
St. Mary’s Medical Center
University of Massachusetts
Yale

Surgery-Prelim (6)
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania x2
Jackson Memorial
Lankenau
Northwestern
UVA

Transitional (11)
Colorado Health Foundation
Crozer-Chester x5
Reading
Riverside Community Hospital
Santa Clara Valley Med Center
St. Joseph Mercy
UPMC
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Just makin me want to get off the waitlist even more haha. Those general surgery matches <3
 
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Accepted off waitlist! Is it beneficial to go to all penn preview events or which are the most important?
 
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Insidious said:
Accepted off waitlist! Is it beneficial to go to all penn preview events or which are the most important?
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Holy cow, congrats! I'm actually shocked that they accepted someone off the waitlist this early???
 
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Who else has started looking for an apartment? I really want a single but those prices are high...
 
Got an email today that my status has been updated. Accepted off the waitlist!
 
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BlackOrthoSurg said:
Email, phone call or both?
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Got a call making sure my letter of intent was legit and then got an email the next day!

Edit: Legit as in I didn't send multiple intents to different schools
 
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Hero2shot said:
They updated the estimated CoA for 2018-2019 in the last few days (maybe today) so I am hoping soon.
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I spoke to the financial aid department last week and they said awards will be mid April. they did not give a specific date
 
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Has anyone been able to access the preview host site through the applicant portal? Mine's giving me an error message
 
The student host portal is up now
 
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Insidious said:
Accepted off waitlist! Is it beneficial to go to all penn preview events or which are the most important?
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That's awesome! Congrats! Any advice on what you did to get off?
 
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afcpanda said:
That's awesome! Congrats! Any advice on what you did to get off?
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Wrote a strong letter of intent! I definitely recommend if you are sure you want to attend. Good luck!
 
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FA Packages are up! Well for me at least. Didn't get an email, but saw it on the FA tab of the application portal
 
Does anyone know if need based aid is fixed for the 4 years, or do we need to reapply each year?
 
bobeanie95 said:
Does anyone know if need based aid is fixed for the 4 years, or do we need to reapply each year?
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I remember from interview day they said it was fixed over four years, unless there is some financial circumstance that would warrant reapplication for more money.

Side note: anyone else still waiting? My refresh game hasn't been this high since admissions came out.
 
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extramilemed said:
Side note: anyone else still waiting? My refresh game hasn't been this high since admissions came out.
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I literally just got mine like 10ish minutes ago! It wasn’t up when I checked earlier.

Did anybody receive any information about merit scholarships, or is it just need based right now?
 
number9 said:
I literally just got mine like 10ish minutes ago! It wasn’t up when I checked earlier.

Did anybody receive any information about merit scholarships, or is it just need based right now?
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Grr still nothing for me.

Last year, it seemed they released merit and need-based at the same time.
 
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number9 said:
I literally just got mine like 10ish minutes ago! It wasn’t up when I checked earlier.

Did anybody receive any information about merit scholarships, or is it just need based right now?
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wondering this as well--would anyone be willing to share if their letter mentioned merit aid plzz?
 
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