freedoctor17

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Hi sorry if this is annoying of me to ask, but did everyone who got waitlisted have this wording in their update? Do they say the highly regarded applicant thing for everyone that they put on the waitlist??

"... I am happy to inform you that you are a highly regarded applicant to whom we would like to offer a position on the waitlist."
got the same thing. generic message i guess
 
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f my subscription to MSAR expired, does anyone still have access and would be willing to post the waitlist stats and information?
 
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WL. The past two days have been incredibly stressful and discouraging. I thought I’d be stronger and handle this well, but I was wrong... it hurts... quite a bit. My heart almost feels like it got physically heavier. But moments like these force me to reflect with a wider scope. I’m not participating in this arduous process so that I can slap a fancy school’s name on my diploma. I’m not doing this so I can show all my family/friends/facebook how impressive I am. I’m not doing this to prove something to myself—or anyone else. I’m doing this so that I can one day serve my future patients through the impacting role of a physician. So although it hurts, I encourage those who didn’t receive good news to spend some time in similar reflection. Yes, it would be a wonderful privilege to receive the educational experience that Columbia offers—but you do not need that to ultimately acheive your mission as a physician.

Congrats to those accepted
 
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Waitlist as well over here as well. Would almost have preferred an R as it seems the waitlist is massive
 

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get lit for my first post II R!!!!!! hope this isn't a sign of things to come for all my other decisions coming out in the next 2 weeks lol
 
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Please everyone do the right thing and decline your spot on the waitlist if you have another school that you prefer (and have an offer at).

Thanks!
Retweet. And if you're accepted but don't intend on matriculating, please don't wait to withdraw your acceptance. You'd really be doing a wonderful service to an anxious individual on the waitlist :)
 
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Got the accepted call yesterday/email this morning!!!!
 

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WL. The past two days have been incredibly stressful and discouraging. I thought I’d be stronger and handle this well, but I was wrong... it hurts... quite a bit. My heart almost feels like it got physically heavier. But moments like these force me to reflect with a wider scope. I’m not participating in this arduous process so that I can slap a fancy school’s name on my diploma. I’m not doing this so I can show all my family/friends/facebook how impressive I am. I’m not doing this to prove something to myself—or anyone else. I’m doing this so that I can one day serve my future patients through the impacting role of a physician. So although it hurts, I encourage those who didn’t receive good news to spend some time in similar reflection. Yes, it would be a wonderful privilege to receive the educational experience that Columbia offers—but you do not need that to ultimately acheive your mission as a physician.

Congrats to those accepted
I thought about this a lot too over the past few days. As much as it sucked, I hope we remember this when we're all doctors someday and have to give news, good or bad, to patients. I think we'll all be better doctors if we do.
 
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This whole process was ridiculous. While it is nice to get a personal phone call, the anxiety, rumors, conjecture and "fake news" was completely unnecessary. The schools should pick a date, stick to that date. Send an email blast to everyone to check the portal at the same time. In there is the good news, the bad news, and the WL. We are all adults who want to be doctors. We are not children. Congrats to everyone that got in. Good luck to the rest of us.
 
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This whole process was ridiculous. While it is nice to get a personal phone call, the anxiety, rumors, conjecture and "fake news" was completely unnecessary. The schools should pick a date, stick to that date. Send an email blast to everyone to check the portal at the same time. In there is the good news, the bad news, and the WL. We are all adults who want to be doctors. We are not children. Congrats to everyone that got in. Good luck to the rest of us.
I don't think their decision process is ridiculous as much as SDN makes it ridiculous. Like for an applicant who is not on SDN, who isn't seeing everyone else posting about their phone call or when they got an email or what they heard during their interview day vs another interview day, I think the process makes sense. We were told that we would hear one way or another by late feb/early march, and that is exactly what happened.
 

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I don't think their decision process is ridiculous as much as SDN makes it ridiculous. Like for an applicant who is not on SDN, who isn't seeing everyone else posting about their phone call or when they got an email or what they heard during their interview day vs another interview day, I think the process makes sense. We were told that we would hear one way or another by late feb/early march, and that is exactly what happened.
A lot of it is fueled by SDN, sure, but it's not like P&S doesn't know SDN exists and that people will get worried when they see other people getting decisions when they haven't. I was surprised how many people on the interview trail were on top of the threads here and used this website to track the progress of the application pipeline. Adcoms also definitely read these boards. I don't think it's too much to ask that schools deliver decisions in an organized and forthright way.

I'm not familiar with the intricacies of the application process and I'm perfectly wiling to defer to someone who provides a good reason why it would be inordinately difficult to pick a decision date and give everyone their results in a low stress way, but I haven't heard these reasons.
 
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A lot of it is fueled by SDN, sure, but it's not like P&S doesn't know SDN exists and that people will get worried when they see other people getting decisions when they haven't. I was surprised how many people on the interview trail were on top of the threads here and used this website to track the progress of the application pipeline. Adcoms also definitely read these boards. I don't think it's too much to ask that schools deliver decisions in an organized and forthright way.

I'm not familiar with the intricacies of the application process and I'm perfectly wiling to defer to someone who provides a good reason why it would be inordinately difficult to pick a decision date and give everyone their results in a low stress way, but I haven't heard these reasons.
My opinion is that phone calls seem unnecessary. While I'm sure some people like calling accepted students and accepted students may enjoying receiving a call, I would much prefer to get an email. It just seems inefficient for everyone to call every accepted student.
 
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My opinion is that phone calls seem unnecessary. While I'm sure some people like calling accepted students and accepted students may enjoying receiving a call, I would much prefer to get an email. It just seems inefficient for everyone to call every accepted student.
I think a good compromise would be to send out the waitlist/rejection emails the morning before acceptance calls start going out rather than the following morning.
 
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Does anyone know if the waitlist is need blind? I've heard of students getting called and offered scholarships at the same time as they get their offer of admission. So are the blinders lifted when they're evaluating the waitlist? Will my parents making less than $100k a year affect my chances?
 
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Does anyone know if the waitlist is need blind? I've heard of students getting called and offered scholarships at the same time as they get their offer of admission. So are the blinders lifted when they're evaluating the waitlist? Will my parents making less than $100k a year affect my chances?
Someone got accepted off the waitlist last year and was offered a full ride at the same time. I'm assuming they decide to accept you first then look at your financial aid to give you your package. Pretty they'd have some trouble on their hands if they didn't accept people based on family income...
 
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Does anyone know how merit aid here works? Have people already received scholarships, or when would that info come out?
 
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Does anyone know how merit aid here works? Have people already received scholarships, or when would that info come out?
I didn't think they offered merit aid here with the debt-free model, but I could be wrong. A brief website search doesn't support or refute this notion
 
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I didn't think they offered merit aid here with the debt-free model, but I could be wrong. A brief website search doesn't support or refute this notion
I’m confused what a debt free model is... if I don’t qualify for any aid, but my parents are not helping me., then I will need to take the full COA from loans.. do they take this into account?
 

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I didn't think they offered merit aid here with the debt-free model, but I could be wrong. A brief website search doesn't support or refute this notion
They do offer it. My tour guide mentioned they got merit aid but didn't qualify for the need based. They mentioned they also asked for a larger scholarship for the hell of it to see if they would give it and they ended up getting another large chunk of money.
 
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I’m confused what a debt free model is... if I don’t qualify for any aid, but my parents are not helping me., then I will need to take the full COA from loans.. do they take this into account?
No they don't, which is why even under a debt free model many will have debt. They will have some sort of formula for how much money they expect you and your parents to contribute. Most likely it's pretty complicated and varies by tax bracket, number of dependents, etc. but it could be something like 25% of your assets, 20% of your parent's income and 5% of their assets yearly. They will deduct that amount (known as EFC) from the total COA and award you the result number in aid. You're then left to pay the rest (you're EFC) through your own assets and parental contributions. If your parents don't contribute their EFC for whatever reason (choice or inability) you will need to cover the deficit with government loans and/or private scholarships/loans.
 
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Any idea what the cutoffs are? My parents income is high but they have not been very smart with their money and do not plan to give any financial support to me (I currently am self sufficient and do not receive any assistance from them)
 
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Any idea what the cutoffs are? My parents income is high but they have not been very smart with their money and do not plan to give any financial support to me (I currently am self sufficient and do not receive any assistance from them)
As this is a new model for them it's really unknown. If you want a number to think about take your fafsa efc from undergrad and subtract it from the COA (~$90,000). If Columbia's efc calculations are similar to the government's then that will roughly be how much aid you will get
 
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Does anyone know how Financial aid works for people who get off the waitlist? Do they give you your FA package before you would have to accept or decline the admission offer? It doesn’t seem like we are able to do any of the supplemental financial aid forms before getting an actual admission offer, since you need a CU ID to log into NetPartner.
 
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A lot of it is fueled by SDN, sure, but it's not like P&S doesn't know SDN exists and that people will get worried when they see other people getting decisions when they haven't. I was surprised how many people on the interview trail were on top of the threads here and used this website to track the progress of the application pipeline. Adcoms also definitely read these boards. I don't think it's too much to ask that schools deliver decisions in an organized and forthright way.

I'm not familiar with the intricacies of the application process and I'm perfectly wiling to defer to someone who provides a good reason why it would be inordinately difficult to pick a decision date and give everyone their results in a low stress way, but I haven't heard these reasons.
I don't think it makes any sense for P&S to adjust what they like to do because pre-meds get worked up on SDN. They think it's a nice personal touch to receive a call and many applicants like it. If you're nervous about what other people are receiving, then get off SDN.
 
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Does anyone know how Financial aid works for people who get off the waitlist? Do they give you your FA package before you would have to accept or decline the admission offer? It doesn’t seem like we are able to do any of the supplemental financial aid forms before getting an actual admission offer, since you need a CU ID to log into NetPartner.
yes they will let you see your financial aid before
 
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I'm not going to lie... I am pretty upset about my post-II rejection.

However... I am even more upset that my classmate was accepted into Vagelos despite having mediocre grades and cheating on her permanent record.... her father is an instructor at Vagelos.... there was never any doubt that she would be accepted.

This process disproportionately rewards people with money and privilege.
 

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Such is the way of the world: the connected get ahead while the rest of us must fight. However, we're pretty fortunate just to have gotten interviews at Columbia and will probably have the privilege of training to become doctors.
 
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Such is the way of the world: the connected get ahead while the rest of us must fight. However, we're pretty fortunate just to have gotten interviews at Columbia and will probably have the privilege of training to become doctors.
Well said
 
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Such is the way of the world: the connected get ahead while the rest of us must fight. However, we're pretty fortunate just to have gotten interviews at Columbia and will probably have the privilege of training to become doctors.
Yes it was a privilege to have been interviewed there, and I will become a doctor somewhere else. But I find it insulting how blasse you're being about this issue. Roughly 50% of medical students come from the top SES quintile... this contributes to the doctor shortages in rural and low income areas. The way to try to prevent these issues is to bring attention to it, not blindly accept it as a given.
 

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I, too, received a Columbia rejection; to be honest, I was quite disappointed. Especially after being told by the admissions committee at Cooperstown that they had high hopes for us! This problem is broader than medicine, to be sure: the pipeline's broken, Theta.
 
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Does anybody know what Columbia’s post-interview rejection policies are? I.e. do they reject a certain percentage of post-interview applicants regardless/are there specific reasons why one might be rejected instead of waitlisted?

I’m pretty shocked I was rejected instead of waitlisted especially considering I’ve gotten into other competitive schools and, from my perspective, performed well in all of my interviews.
 
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I heard that they reduced their number of spots by 25 this year... something about them losing space in one of their hospitals to Mt. Sinai

Also new AMCAS policy is making a lot of schools nervous. I know that, in response, University of Rochester accepted the bare minimum (e.g. 120 acceptances for 120 spots). This implies more wait list movement at Rochester. No idea how Columbia approached this new policy.

Traditionally (Columbia):
1000 Interviews
-200 rejections
-600 waitlist (100 of which get accepted)
-200 initial acceptances
 
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Wait listed here

Not gonna lie... half of the people at my P&S interview were sporting Canada goose and/or air pods

Med schools seriously need to make a bigger effort to have greater socioeconomic diversity (not just ethnic and racial)
I mean, the school is literally debt-free...
 

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Does anybody know what Columbia’s post-interview rejection policies are? I.e. do they reject a certain percentage of post-interview applicants regardless/are there specific reasons why one might be rejected instead of waitlisted?

I’m pretty shocked I was rejected instead of waitlisted especially considering I’ve gotten into other competitive schools and, from my perspective, performed well in all of my interviews.
Sometimes it just be like that... :)
Sorry, I couldn't resist. Puns about usernames aside, it really does feel random sometimes. Almost no one is going to get in everywhere.
 
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I heard that they reduced their number of spots by 25 this year... something about them losing space in one of their hospitals to Mt. Sinai

Also new AMCAS policy is making a lot of schools nervous. I know that, in response, University of Rochester accepted the bare minimum (e.g. 120 acceptances for 120 spots). This implies more wait list movement at Rochester. No idea how Columbia approached this new policy.

Traditionally (Columbia):
1000 Interviews
-200 rejections
-600 waitlist (100 of which get accepted)
-200 initial acceptances
Ah, so it seems like they do plan on rejecting post-interview - I know some schools only reject in special circumstances (like if you really mess up in the interview or demonstrate really poor personality traits throughout the interview day). This makes me feel better! Can I ask where you got that info from?