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REL, I think we can all collectively say that we appreciate your transparency SO much! Thank you!
+1, just now.Pre-II R just now
Yes, but I haven’t received anything after my waitlist notification via call like 2 weeks ago. What was your email/s about?Anyone else’s heart jump every time they get an email from here
Were you accepted from the waitlist or just accepted post interview?ACCEPTED! First one so I'm incredibly relieved
Post! I interviewed 2/12, OOS.Were you accepted from the waitlist or just accepted post interview?
I heard on March 8th so they must be giving it out in waves
Accepted this morning! Interviewed mid Feb
Accepted this morning! Interviewed mid Feb
Direct acceptanceCongrats future doc!! Just wondering if this was a direct acceptance or if you were accepted off the waitlist?
also curious about this but feeling like its too early@REL Maybe it’s too early to ask, but how does waitlist movement look now compared to previous years? Any less/more volatility?
I dont anticipate any significant WL movement for another 3-4 weeks...accepted applicants will begin to whittle by mid April....also curious about this but feeling like its too early
I hope to have a copy early in the week. I know it was another strong match. Listening to about 1/3 of the match announcements I heard lots of great matches at top institutions Duke, UPA, Emory, Stanford, Brown, Tufts, Cornell, MGen, Brigham, Vandy, Wash U, Baylor, UTSA, Walter Reed, NYC. It appears that about 1/3 stayed in FL. I will provide more early in the week.Do you know when UCF will post this year’s Match list? @REL
Additional LOR updates will not likely be reviewed by the committee after your file has been reviewed. About the only thing they will note at this point is Letters of Intent that have been uploaded. If you do add an Intent letter, make sure that you also advise the admissions office to that they can ensure that the committee is aware.@REL waitlisted OOS - unequivocally my top choice - does UCF take updated recommendations from new research employer? Thanks
Hi @REL! I'm a little confused -- you have previously said that once a candidate is placed on the WL, nothing will cause relative position to change, other than people dropping off. While I'm sure the adcom LOVES to see expressions of intent to enroll, exactly how do LOIs help, if the adcom goes down the list in order and the LOI doesn't impact relative position? Is it literally only in the case where two candidates have identical scores, and one sent a LOI and one didn't?Additional LOR updates will not likely be reviewed by the committee after your file has been reviewed. About the only thing they will note at this point is Letters of Intent that have been uploaded. If you do add an Intent letter, make sure that you also advise the admissions office to that they can ensure that the committee is aware.
Thank you VERY much for the clarification. Your posts are the reason UCF is probably the #1 school in country in terms of transparency!!!You are correct in that a Letter of Intent can only impact an applicant if we are visiting their total committee score. For example if we are at score 66 the committee will likely select one who has sent a letter of intent. They have no effect unless we get to that numerical address. In truth this will likely only impact applicants in the middle 1/3 as all of those above will likley get an offer at some point.
A letter of intent to enroll should only be sent IF it is an absolute final decision, so yes we will consider it a promise, it is an indicator of professionalism. If they promise and break it, it could be reported to the school where that applicant matriculates. That program may choose to keep an eye on that student for other indicators. A letter of intent should not be sent without that intent.
Going off of this question, will we receive notification of our status on the WL soon? Want to send something like this, but also don’t know if it’s appropriate given my spot... in addition, is it true that this is dependent on OOS/IS status? Like is it possible someone OOS could be x spots below a bunch of IS people, but still get an A given the OOS/IS ratio... or assuming a lot of other OOS people decline their acceptance?Thank you VERY much for the clarification. Your posts are the reason UCF is probably the #1 school in country in terms of transparency!!!
And, just to clarify for anyone having any remaining questions, given the gravity you give to LOIs, they really should only be sent by people in the middle third who honestly will drop everything and commit to UCF given the opportunity. And, even then, the odds of a LOI are influencing a decision are extremely low, because they will only make a difference, if at all, at the very lowest score you end up hitting (i.e., using your example, everyone with a 67 will receive a call, with or without a LOI, before LOIs are prioritized at 66).
There is no reason for anyone in the top third to make such a commitment because, in all likelihood, they are going to receive a call regardless. Similarly, there is no reason for anyone in the bottom third to send one because, historically, you never get that far into your WL. Correct?
TBH, given the risks of someone maybe wanting to change their mind, and the relatively low likelihood of it making a difference, it really sounds like they are only advisable for people in the middle third with no other WLs (or As) that a candidate would prefer, under any circumstances, over UCF.
Hopefully @REL will answer this. I was under the impression that they have different lists for IS and OOS in order to be able to maintain their target ratio without getting into spot jumping. Also, don't you already know your "status"? If so, I don't think anything has changed yet, since @REL has already indicated that they haven't started pulling yet.Going off of this question, will we receive notification of our status on the WL soon? Want to send something like this, but also don’t know if it’s appropriate given my spot... in addition, is it true that this is dependent on OOS/IS status? Like is it possible someone OOS could be x spots below a bunch of IS people, but still get an A given the OOS/IS ratio... or assuming a lot of other OOS people decline their acceptance?
We typically reorganize reorganize applicants into separate Florida/Non-Florida rosters after the final admissions committee meeting. That final meeting will be this week. We try to send out the monthly updates at the end of the month. In a normal season the wait list does not begin to move until the latter portion of April.Hopefully @REL will answer this. I was under the impression that they have different lists for IS and OOS in order to be able to maintain their target ratio without getting into spot jumping. Also, don't you already know your "status"? If so, I don't think anything has changed yet, since @REL has already indicated that they haven't started pulling yet
Will everyone receive a FA/scholarship phone call? Or only those that qualify?
Thank you! anxiously waiting to hearMine was by email.
Yes I think this is what @REL was saying in that there may be significantly more waitlist movement this time around. Same amount of people interviewed roughly, but it was easier for anyone to interview irrespective of his/her true interest in the program. Before the financial cost of getting to the school and interviewing may have led only those who were genuinely very interested, where is now all financial and most time constraints were eliminated. I feel this movement for the OOS might be even more significant bc of the flying/hotel costs removed here, but should apply to IS people too. As an OOS, I love this school a lot so I’d have come regardless of virtual/non virtual interviews, but it was definitely much more financially feasible for me to interview here with the virtual interview setting.@REL Since virtual interviews were "easier" to accept this cycle, in comparison to previous cycles, was there less people declining interviews because it was more financially feasible w/o all the traveling costs?
Not sure if this is making any sense but, If the same amount of students are interviewed (~450) and less people declined II offers, then the amount of people in total who received offers for interviews also went down as more had accepted and the quota for the 450 was met.
Yes, this happens at almost every meeting.@REL, Thank you for the detailed response. I truly appreciate you taking the time to highlight such important information. I had a quick question follow-up question. Is it possible for some in the upper 1/3rd to come off the WL after this final meeting?
This will come from our FA office and it should come via email. We hope that we can continue to give all admitted some amount of scholarship/grant......Will everyone receive a FA/scholarship phone call? Or only those that qualify?
Thanks for the good recap. Essentially in the past it took some effort and expense on the part of an applicant to interview which was not the case this year. But in all years there were very few who ever declined interviews.Yes I think this is what @REL was saying in that there may be significantly more waitlist movement this time around. Same amount of people interviewed roughly, but it was easier for anyone to interview irrespective of his/her true interest in the program. Before the financial cost of getting to the school and interviewing may have led only those who were genuinely very interested, where is now all financial and most time constraints were eliminated. I feel this movement for the OOS might be even more significant bc of the flying/hotel costs removed here, but should apply to IS people too. As an OOS, I love this school a lot so I’d have come regardless of virtual/non virtual interviews, but it was definitely much more financially feasible for me to interview here with the virtual interview setting.
We are likely to continue virtual zoom interviews for the next year to make it easier for the interviewees as well as the interviewers. We will also likely adjust our Virtual Visit to a ?monthly? visit that will last ?4-6? hours with a larger groups of applicants. We are leaning this way -- nothing absolute yet. What are your thoughts?? This will all be based on the perception that we can entertain larger groups in the building as we move forward.
We are likely to continue virtual zoom interviews for the next year to make it easier for the interviewees as well as the interviewers. We will also likely adjust our Virtual Visit to a ?monthly? visit that will last ?4-6? hours with a larger groups of applicants. We are leaning this way -- nothing absolute yet. What are your thoughts??
This is a really good initiative. Personally, I think the interviews and virtual visit should be 100% online; and the optional second-look for those who are willing/able can be in-person. Even if in-person continues -- virtual should be an option. Especially for people low on funds and with disabilities, it can be really hard to travel. And for all the reasons @nevergonnagiveyouup mentioned lol.We are likely to continue virtual zoom interviews for the next year to make it easier for the interviewees as well as the interviewers. We will also likely adjust our Virtual Visit to a ?monthly? visit that will last ?4-6? hours with a larger groups of applicants. We are leaning this way -- nothing absolute yet. What are your thoughts??
My thoughts are that this is very consistent with UCF being one of the very few schools that actually cares about what applicants think!!!We are likely to continue virtual zoom interviews for the next year to make it easier for the interviewees as well as the interviewers. We will also likely adjust our Virtual Visit to a ?monthly? visit that will last ?4-6? hours with a larger groups of applicants. We are leaning this way -- nothing absolute yet. What are your thoughts??
Wow...that's interesting. I remember Pitt Admission Dean definitely mentioning that they liked the virtual format for post-COVID cycles because of the flexibility. I did not expect it become a broad option post-COVID.It appears that almost all AAMC MD programs will continue with Virtual Interviews next cycle.
In a hypothetical situation, let's say someone were to send a letter of intent right now. Are you still held to the promise even if one were to be accepted off the waitlist in June when you've already purchased a place to stay at the other medical school you would attend? I love UCF but was wondering if it would be best to hold off on renting out a place at the other school until I hear back from you all. Thank you again for everything!You are correct in that a Letter of Intent can only impact an applicant if we are visiting their total committee score. For example if we are at score 66 the committee will likely select one who has sent a letter of intent. They have no effect unless we get to that numerical address. In truth this will likely only impact applicants in the middle 1/3 as all of those above will likley get an offer at some point.
A letter of intent to enroll should only be sent IF it is an absolute final decision, so yes we will consider it a promise, it is an indicator of professionalism. If they promise and break it, it could be reported to the school where that applicant matriculates. That program may choose to keep an eye on that student for other indicators. A letter of intent should not be sent without that intent.
Yes I am in the same situation. If we were to get off the waitlist in mid June or so, after another school’s CTE date or after paying deposit/arranging for housing, how would you suggest proceeding forwards. Love UCF, but can’t imagine the risk of leaving other medical school offers if I’m not sure of receiving admission here at UCF.In a hypothetical situation, let's say someone were to send a letter of intent right now. Are you still held to the promise even if one were to be accepted off the waitlist in June when you've already purchased a place to stay at the other medical school you would attend? I love UCF but was wondering if it would be best to hold off on renting out a place at the other school until I hear back from you all. Thank you again for everything!