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[212kindofgal]

II URM LM72 unreal!!

Congrats! When were you complete?

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[Garod]

Congrats! When were you complete?

7/20!! I blanked out this morning feeling it was a joke

 

[deleted1103863]

II, ORM, OOS but with ties, 52X, 4.0! I was complete mid August and it looks like they're scheduling super close, since all the dates were within the next 2-3 weeks. Super excited for this one, wasn't really expecting to hear back from them tbh. Got the notification in the middle of an exam so I really went through the emotional roller coaster this morning lol

 

[sa242]

pathways II! URM, OOS no ties, 520/3.61! I was complete mid-August and the only dates were next week lol

 

[Garod]

pathways II! URM, OOS no ties, 520/3.61! I was complete mid-August and the only dates were next week lol

Let me guess interviewing on tuesday or wednesday?

 

[sa242]

Let me guess interviewing on tuesday or wednesday?

nope Thursday and Friday were available

 

[Garod]

nope Thursday and Friday were available

I see!! Congrats !!

 

[Garod]

Does HMS accepts Thank you notes?

 

[sadstudent325]

pathways II just now! OOS but with ties, ORM, LM 78.5, complete 7/24

 

[graeme]

Does HMS accepts Thank you notes?

Yes, they have instructions on the canvas site, you are supposed to send them to an email address (depending on if you interviewed HST vs. Pathways), rather than uploading them to AMP.

 

[sleepypremed22]

pathways II! OOS ORM complete w/in first couple days

 

[deleted1074206]

pathways II! OOS ORM complete w/in first couple days

How far out are they scheduling?

 

[Garod]

Yes, they have instructions on the canvas site, you are supposed to send them to an email address (depending on if you interviewed HST vs. Pathways), rather than uploading them to AMP.

thank you!!

 

[cofactorcoenzyme]

pathways II! OOS ORM complete w/in first couple days

are you able to share your LM? i have seen you on several top school threads where you've gotten a II, but for some reason never state your LM even when people ask. it's your choice of course, i just think it would be more helpful to others who reference these threads.

edit: didn't expect this to be so controversial haha

 

[gazelle_98]

II pathways. Complete mid august. LizzyM 77 WARS 100 ORM. Only scheduling a week out!

 

[MD_Loading...]

Pre-II R, complete 7/8. Oh well, I hope Harvard makes good use of my $100+ donation

 

[mdog31415]

Pre-II R, complete 7/8. Oh well, I hope Harvard makes good use of my $100+ donation

So, it's ironic I ask this considering HMS is my #1 school and I ought to know this, but I thought they announced all rejections at the same time in February. Or did I misread the adcoms info again? I'm gonna guess the latter lol

 

[richi108202]

So, it's ironic I ask this considering HMS is my #1 school and I ought to know this, but I thought they announced all rejections at the same time in February. Or did I misread the adcoms info again? I'm gonna guess the latter lol

I thought the same. Closest thing I could find was their timeline which says "Early March | All admissions decisions are sent out via email on the same date, whether candidates are accepted, declined, or waitlisted."
Link: Timeline

 

[deleted1114112]

I thought the same. Closest thing I could find was their timeline which says "Early March | All admissions decisions are sent out via email on the same date, whether candidates are accepted, declined, or waitlisted."
Link: Timeline

Yup, I asked this during interview so unless I misheard or something this is true haha

 

[Garod]

So, it's ironic I ask this considering HMS is my #1 school and I ought to know this, but I thought they announced all rejections at the same time in February. Or did I misread the adcoms info again? I'm gonna guess the latter lol

I think its rejections post II that starts to get sent out late feb

 

[seaturtles123]

Does anyone have an interview type listed next to their interview date in the portal?

 

[overnightoats4ever]

Does anyone have an interview type listed next to their interview date in the portal?

I do! It's for Pathway (NP) versus HST right?

 

[MD_Loading...]

So, it's ironic I ask this considering HMS is my #1 school and I ought to know this, but I thought they announced all rejections at the same time in February. Or did I misread the adcoms info again? I'm gonna guess the latter lol

They are referring to post-interview Rs here I think

 

[MatchboxFox]

II Pathways this morning! Complete 10/22. LM 76.

 

[deleted1074206]

II Pathways this morning! Complete 10/22. LM 76.

Congrats! How far out are they scheduling interviews

 

[deleted1092328]

II

mstp and HST

c: ~early october

 

[mickmars51]

any other mstp folks glued to the secondary portal checking their status daily? LOL

 

[CH3OH-CH2CH3OH]

II just now. Pathways. SHOCKED. complete 7/14

 

[allseasons]

II just now. Pathways. SHOCKED. complete 7/14

I got an interview at Vanderbilt at 3 AM, went to sleep at 6 AM and had a dream I got an interview from Harvard. I woke up to an interview from Harvard. And a rejection from Harvard lol (HST).

 

[17throwaway13579]

how far out are they scheduling?

 

[allseasons]

how far out are they scheduling?

the nearest date was 2 days away. The furthest date was next friday.
Def not expecting anything post-II cause they probs have like a 10% acceptance rate at this point, unfortunately, but thrilled to have the opportunity.
My top choices were Harvard, Stanford, Penn, so at least I got 2/3 IIs!

 

[17throwaway13579]

That's it for this week. They seem to only send IIs on monday and tuesday mornings. 2 maybe 3 weeks left if lucky

 

[allseasons]

II to Pathways. Complete 10/22. This is my third II in the last 48 hours. I can’t speak.

What were the other 2 if you don't mind sharing?

 

[deleted1114112]

Wild that Harvard seems to have no correlation between time IIs were sent and stats, seriously hitting that holistic buzz lmfao. THey havn't even been too slow either, I wonder what caused them to send a bunch of 520xers II's nearly mid December lol.

 

[CH3OH-CH2CH3OH]

Wild that Harvard seems to have no correlation between time IIs were sent and stats, seriously hitting that holistic buzz lmfao. THey havn't even been too slow either, I wonder what caused them to send a bunch of 520xers II's nearly mid December lol.

I know I sent an update like 2 weeks ago of a 1st author pub that I had as submitted on app that got recently published in a high impact journal, so that could be part of it for me at least

 

[deleted1092328]

i genuinely don't understand what is so unique about pathways, ig you start ur clinical early but is that it?

 

[docsnkrs]

Anybody else’s “Status” tab gone or I’m tripping and there never was one?

 

[scioly]

Anybody else’s “Status” tab gone or I’m tripping and there never was one?

Do you see your application status under the "Home" tab?

 

[deleted1114112]

I know I sent an update like 2 weeks ago of a 1st author pub that I had as submitted on app that got recently published in a high impact journal, so that could be part of it for me at least

Seems like quick turnaround though, and that this was another wave of II's that they probably had planned anyway. In any case judging from your signature and other threads it doesn't really seem like a first author pub matters much for your app success LOL. Congrats though, huge achievement; best of luck with the interview!!

 

[allseasons]

i genuinely don't understand what is so unique about pathways, ig you start ur clinical early but is that it?

I think pathways is supposed to be the standard med school experience (just at Harvard), so there wouldn't be much unique about it. HST is the unique one.

 

[allseasons]

Wild that Harvard seems to have no correlation between time IIs were sent and stats, seriously hitting that holistic buzz lmfao. THey havn't even been too slow either, I wonder what caused them to send a bunch of 520xers II's nearly mid December lol.

not sure about the others, but my profile can essentially be summarized as one of the best among people that aren't exceptional aka no million dollar nonprofit started- but I was an early stage department director (non founding) of a small healthcare startup in the hundreds of thousands. no ten first author pubs in a top tier journal- but a few pubs in low impact journals (one first author). no exceptional clinical experiences, but multiple interesting experiences beyond most applicants. I would guess this is more of the early interviewed.

In an earlier post about who gets into Harvard in SDN from a med student there years ago, they mentioned that 10% of the class is essentially guaranteed admit, the best of the best. nature pubs, massive start ups, extremely impressive ECs. Another 40% are top tier but not guaranteed admit. A decent interview will get them through the door.

Then the remaining 50% is filled with people more like me, high performance but nothing that's gonna blow anyone away. Great interview performance + good fit relative to the rest of the class profile get this portion in.

I'll see if I can find the post.

 

[allseasons]

not sure about the others, but my profile can essentially be summarized as one of the best among people that aren't exceptional aka no million dollar nonprofit started- but I was an early stage department director (non founding) of a small healthcare startup in the hundreds of thousands. no ten first author pubs in a top tier journal- but a few pubs in low impact journals (one first author). no exceptional clinical experiences, but multiple interesting experiences beyond most applicants. I would guess this is more of the early interviewed.

In an earlier post about who gets into Harvard in SDN from a med student there years ago, they mentioned that 10% of the class is essentially guaranteed admit, the best of the best. nature pubs, massive start ups, extremely impressive ECs. Another 40% are top tier but not guaranteed admit. A decent interview will get them through the door.

Then the remaining 50% is filled with people more like me, high performance but nothing that's gonna blow anyone away. Great interview performance + good fit relative to the rest of the class profile get this portion in.

I'll see if I can find the post.

Found the post:

Harvard Med Student - AMA

Title says it. I remember being a premed and having lots of burning questions, only to get a meh answer most of the time. Ask away for the raw, no filter answers!

forums.studentdoctor.net

Harvard Med Student - AMA

Title says it. I remember being a premed and having lots of burning questions, only to get a meh answer most of the time. Ask away for the raw, no filter answers!

forums.studentdoctor.net

 

[deleted1114112]

not sure about the others, but my profile can essentially be summarized as one of the best among people that aren't exceptional aka no million dollar nonprofit started- but I was an early stage department director (non founding) of a small healthcare startup in the hundreds of thousands. no ten first author pubs in a top tier journal- but a few pubs in low impact journals (one first author). no exceptional clinical experiences, but multiple interesting experiences beyond most applicants. I would guess this is more of the early interviewed.

In an earlier post about who gets into Harvard in SDN from a med student there years ago, they mentioned that 10% of the class is essentially guaranteed admit, the best of the best. nature pubs, massive start ups, extremely impressive ECs. Another 40% are top tier but not guaranteed admit. A decent interview will get them through the door.

Then the remaining 50% is filled with people more like me, high performance but nothing that's gonna blow anyone away. Great interview performance + good fit relative to the rest of the class profile get this portion in.

I'll see if I can find the post.

I'm definitely not questioning the quality of student I'm just confused about the timeline haha. I interviewed like 2 months ago now and one of the admins went on a huge monologue about how amazing the applicants were this year and how many did extraordinary things to benefit people during COVID, and that they were already struggling to pick people for interview, bla bla bla, even mentioned they were pretty far along in the interview process.

Also to your analysis, you have to remember harvard admits like 200 kids, doubtful that they really need to stratify by those metric since there's definitely at least 200 of the first category, probably way, WAY than that more in the applicant pool. But yeah idk I remember linkedining the people in my cohort day and there was deadass a person in forbes 21 list...probably only a couple of those lmao

 

[deleted1114112]

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[DoctorFate]

Depends on a lot of factors but in theory yes, there's a lot of physician-entrepreneurs both in medical school and out of medical school. Stanford actively seeks these people, for example, and a lot of their grads don't even pursue residency post-MD, yet not many drop out.

If you have are running one and didn't plan on finishing medical school then why would you even want to go to medical school? Even if something starts being extremely profitable mid-medical school it still just flat out stupid to abandon such a versatile and prestigious degree—if you're smart or have any remote business sense, you know how fast things can go belly up in that venue.

It also matters how it ties into your narrative. If you run a gaming company and pitching it in your medical school application that's probably going to be largely meaningless and probably a net neutral or even negative. If you developed a way to bridge healthcare access in disadvantaged communities or language barrier communities in your city or something, then that's different. I know someone who interviewed here and Stanford who started a really techy healthcare company to facilitate easier access to results and appointment setups...idk what was so special about it but yeah.

The other thing is top schools like these play a little bit of a different game than other schools. One of their goals is increasing reputation and standing, and having a candidate drop out cause their startup took off is probably still a win for them as their name still becomes associated with the uni. Bill gates is very famously a Harvard drop out. It's not just restricted to undergrad either, elon musk dropped out of a Stanford PhD. I doubt either of those schools regret admitting them.

 

[deleted1114112]

The other thing is top schools like these play a little bit of a different game than other schools. One of their goals is increasing reputation and standing, and having a candidate drop out cause their startup took off is probably still a win for them as their name still becomes associated with the uni. Bill gates is very famously a Harvard drop out. It's not just restricted to undergrad either, elon musk dropped out of a Stanford PhD. I doubt either of those schools regret admitting them.

Totally. Still, even for medical school I just can't understand why you'd go through the effort of applying, doing 1 or 2 years, then stopping. In most cases, having a medical degree is straight up beneficial for your business/persona. Especially now where modern technology can essentially let you run an entire business from your laptop it just makes no sense to drop out lmao.

You also have to think about the stage at which your business would have to be for it to actually present as a worry for medical schools thinking you'd drop out. Not many people in the world not to mention medical school applicants have a business near that stage.

 

[Garod]

Totally. Still, even for medical school I just can't understand why you'd go through the effort of applying, doing 1 or 2 years, then stopping. In most cases, having a medical degree is straight up beneficial for your business/persona. Especially now where modern technology can essentially let you run an entire business from your laptop it just makes no sense to drop out lmao.

You also have to think about the stage at which your business would have to be for it to actually present as a worry for medical schools thinking you'd drop out. Not many people in the world not to mention medical school applicants have a business near that stage.

I dream to be an HMS drop out , I will probably end up like bill gates or Mike Zukerberg.

 

[whatsinaphage]

Pathways MD II just now, complete 9/21 LM 74.8

 

[DoctorFate]

Pathways MD II just now, complete 9/21 LM 74.8

Oh wow. Someone said earlier Harvard only sends IIs on Monday and Tuesday.

 

[KanekiS1E12]

This is one of my last 2 schools I’m still hoping for an II from. Looked at the last few years threads and I think next week or the week following would be the last weeks we may expect an II. Anyone know anything that might suggest that this season is running later or does that sound ab right?