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The only way the WL doesn’t move is if not a single person gets disqualified by medical or security, and not a single person decides to go to a different school. That has literally never happened.
Do you happen to know if the waitlist acts as a queue pulling folks from a line or do they do re-look at the whole group once they've determine openings?

Second question, do you know if they to processes moral waivers before they offer conditional acceptance or does that happen later for the unconditional acceptance? I was under the impression it was the later as the conditional acceptance was purely academic from a SOM perspective.
 
Do you happen to know if the waitlist acts as a queue pulling folks from a line or do they do re-look at the whole group once they've determine openings?

Second question, do you know if they to processes moral waivers before they offer conditional acceptance or does that happen later for the unconditional acceptance? I was under the impression it was the later as the conditional acceptance was purely academic from a SOM perspective.
USU's waitlist = recommended for acceptance but there aren't any spots left, so I believe it's more of a queue.
 
Hey man, I just realized you're Navy. A good friend of mine/mentor and former Marine/mentee (same person lol) is a third year in the Navy. She went through EMDP2 to gain acceptance.
If she’s an MS3 in the Navy who did EMDP2 and is a former Marine, then I know who you’re talking about. I did EMDP2 as well. She’s a really good friend of mine.
 
If she’s an MS3 in the Navy who did EMDP2 and is a former Marine, then I know who you’re talking about. I did EMDP2 as well. She’s a really good friend of mine.
Small world! We were stationed in Lejeune together and I applied for EMDP2 the year before she applied but I wasn't accepted due to a restriction placed on me for refusing to re-enlist to accept orders to recruiting (I already knew I wanted to attempt medical school). We were able to use the stuff I learned with my package for her and she got in so it was definitely a silver lining to the whole experience. I've relied on her heavily throughout the application cycle for guidance and inspiration, she's a fantastic person!
 
Hi all! I interviewed in early September, and have yet to hear a decision. I reached out to my admissions counsellor in October (a couple days after the 15th) and she said I was still under review. It looks like people well past my interview date are hearing admissions decisions. My plan is to continue to patiently wait, but I’m not sure if/when I should follow up on my status (edit: or send in any updates) … anyone have any advice?

(My interview confirmation email said I MAY hear back within 8-10 weeks. This coming week is 10 weeks for me)
 
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Small world! We were stationed in Lejeune together and I applied for EMDP2 the year before she applied but I wasn't accepted due to a restriction placed on me for refusing to re-enlist to accept orders to recruiting (I already knew I wanted to attempt medical school). We were able to use the stuff I learned with my package for her and she got in so it was definitely a silver lining to the whole experience. I've relied on her heavily throughout the application cycle for guidance and inspiration, she's a fantastic person!
She’s mentioned you before haha. Very small world. Hope you get good news soon!
 
She’s mentioned you before haha. Very small world. Hope you get good news soon!
Small world indeed, I love that. It's not surprising but I never get tired of it. The military really is six degrees to Kevin Bacon, especially when you get into smaller fields and MOS/officer branches.

Back in early spring, I went through the admissions page and found a few students to annoy with questions. One of the people I reached out to, turned out we were both medics at Fort Bliss at the same time, we went through EFMB together when it snowed, hailed and froze everyone's camelbaks. A guy I went to basic and AIT with was one of her graders. The funny thing is this kind of stuff happens all the time.

Congratulations to everyone that's gotten a waitlist. It's not as elating as an acceptance outright but with how much movement because of disqualifications from security, medical, or just turning it down, well I'm pretty optimistic for you. Hopefully I'll be able to be optimistic for myself as well. I interviewed last week so the timeline puts my window around mid-January. ugh.
 
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Hi all! I interviewed in early September, and have yet to hear a decision. I reached out to my admissions counsellor in October (a couple days after the 15th) and she said I was still under review. It looks like people well past my interview date are hearing admissions decisions. My plan is to continue to patiently wait, but I’m not sure if/when I should follow up on my status (edit: or send in any updates) … anyone have any advice?

(My interview confirmation email said I MAY hear back within 8-10 weeks. This coming week is 10 weeks for me)
Well it looks like most of my group of interviewees (Sept 27) received their decisions today and now I'm with you hanging out until we hear from them. Maybe someone else can provide some additional feedback, but I plan to wait until 10 weeks from the date of my interview complete e-mail and then ask for an update. That puts me at Dec 14... but who's counting? :dead:
 
Well it looks like most of my group of interviewees (Sept 27) received their decisions today and now I'm with you hanging out until we hear from them. Maybe someone else can provide some additional feedback, but I plan to wait until 10 weeks from the date of my interview complete e-mail and then ask for an update. That puts me at Dec 14... but who's counting? :dead:
It seems like they are making admissions decisions on Thursdays and Fridays so I‘ll give it another week before I send an inquiry, if I decide to send one (so the week of the 22nd). I’m just reaching 10 weeks but the main thing that confuses me is why my decision is taking so long to come out —people who interviewed the same week I did heard back 4 weeks ago. It looks like part of that depends on admissions counsellors and other factors. Thanks for your perspective!

Guys, when you hear back is highly dependent on your counselor and the three people you get from the board. If they’re slow, it may take longer than expected.
Thank you for this. I appreciate your input!
 
Any interview tips from folks who already got through their 2 interviews?
It was very formal. Not as "conversational" as my other interviews, though not exactly deadpan business meeting stuff either. They both actively tried to ask difficult questions and get me out of my comfort zone. Probably my most difficult interview of the 5 I've attended, though not by a huge margin.
 
It was very formal. Not as "conversational" as my other interviews, though not exactly deadpan business meeting stuff either. They both actively tried to ask difficult questions and get me out of my comfort zone. Probably my most difficult interview of the 5 I've attended, though not by a huge margin.
Curious if others had this experience. Back when I was applying, my interviews (and most of my friends that I applied with) were basically the complete opposite: a few softball questions and then very informal conversation.
 
Curious if others had this experience. Back when I was applying, my interviews (and most of my friends that I applied with) were basically the complete opposite: a few softball questions and then very informal conversation.
Mine were very softball informal conversations. My interviewers did seem like they read my application so my questions were more elaborating on my experiences and a handful of canned question. Genuinely my favorite so far
 
Any interview tips from folks who already got through their 2 interviews?
(See below)

As a disclaimer, I'm a civilian reapplicant so I've had 4 interviewers to date.

The single most important question is "Why medicine, and why in particular military medicine?" or some variation of that. All four of my interviewers asked that. Three of my interviewers asked me about leadership ("Tell me about your most important/humbling leadership experience") and three of them also asked me about where I saw myself in the future ("... outside of, you know, medical specialties.").

The other question that all four interviewers asked me was "Do you have any questions?".

Aside from that, three of my four interviews were very conversational (almost too conversational, which can throw you off). The fourth interview was similar to a traditional "drill you with interview questions" interview but the Q/A session at the end was very conversational and casual. I talked about things like martial arts or research or rocket launchers or therapy pets (Shetland!) with my interviewers.

You generally won't get oddball questions ("What is your favorite microbe?") unless it's very specific to you (i.e. if you're passionate about microbiology).

Other interview questions that I encountered (mostly from that one interviewer):
-Why our school?
-What do you offer us?
-How would your friends describe you?
-What is the last book that you read?
-Tell me about your most significant research experience
-Tell me about the time you spent abroad (because I did medical volunteering abroad)
-What would you say is the biggest downside of military medicine and how do you plan on overcoming that?
-What military exposure do you have outside of your work with ROTC and veterans?
 
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Curious if others had this experience. Back when I was applying, my interviews (and most of my friends that I applied with) were basically the complete opposite: a few softball questions and then very informal conversation.
I think it's still true for the most part but it also depends on the interviewer. All of my interviewers asked the "Why mil med" question and 3/4 of them asked other softball questions (e.g. Tell me about yourself, tell me about your leadership experience/experience with military, etc.). Then, those three interviewers told me about the school and we would just talk for 30-45 minutes.

One of my interviewers just drilled me with interview questions and skipped the informal conversation part sans the Q&A session at the end (see above). Completely caught me off-guard.
 
I think it's still true for the most part but it also depends on the interviewer. All of my interviewers asked the "Why mil med" question and 3/4 of them asked other softball questions (e.g. Tell me about yourself, tell me about your leadership experience/experience with military, etc.). Then, those three interviewers told me about the school and we would just talk for 30-45 minutes.

One of my interviewers just drilled me with interview questions and skipped the informal conversation part sans the Q&A session at the end (see above). Completely caught me off-guard.
Yeah. I have heard the med students tend to be more formal about it. I plan to be a student interviewer and be super chill haha.
 
Yeah. I have heard the med students tend to be more formal about it. I plan to be a student interviewer and be super chill haha.
My student interviewer and I spent a lot of time talking about a mutual hobby, I think being chill is the way. After all, you're trying to find future colleagues and classmates that would be a good fit!
 
Medically disqualified after a great interview experience. Pretty bummed. Good luck to everyone else
 
The formal interviewer was a faculty member haha. But I definitely went into this application cycle hoping that you would be one of my interviewers 😉
Haha yeah they only let us interview as fourth years. So I’ll be doing it next year.
 
Medically disqualified after a great interview experience. Pretty bummed. Good luck to everyone else
Aw I'm so sorry to hear that. What types of things can get someone medically disqualified for? Isn't it just a regular physical/vision exam?
 
Aw I'm so sorry to hear that. What types of things can get someone medically disqualified for? Isn't it just a regular physical/vision exam?
Basically, if it's something that might cause an issue when you serve/impact your ability to serve, you can be disqualified for it. Previous injuries/surgeries, depression or ADHD (if you need medication), hemorrhoids, high blood pressure, poor depth perception (?), etc. Even if you don't currently have something but have a history of it (e.g. my BP is normal but it was high when I was younger due to anxiety, so I was DQ'ed for that).

You can get a lot of these waived, though. My blood pressure waiver was really just me telling the commissioning coordinator "My physician and medical records are literally MIA but I feel good and look good and this DoDMERB physical right here proves it."
 
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Basically, if it's something that might cause an issue when you serve/impact your ability to serve, you can be disqualified for it. Previous injuries/surgeries, depression or ADHD (if you need medication), hemorrhoids, high blood pressure, poor depth perception (?), etc. Even if you don't currently have something but have a history of it (e.g. my BP is normal but it was high when I was younger due to anxiety, so I was DQ'ed for that).

You can get a lot of these waived, though. My blood pressure waiver was really just me telling the commissioning coordinator "My physician and medical records are literally MIA but I feel good and look good and this DoDMERB physical right here proves it."
I get a little bit of White Coat Syndrome and my BP is high when im at the doctor's office but is normally fine. Hopefully i'll be ok!
 
I get a little bit of White Coat Syndrome and my BP is high when im at the doctor's office but is normally fine. Hopefully i'll be ok!
Haha the first time they took it my BP, I told the nurse that I normally get super nervous whenever someone takes my BP. It read something like 182/75 with a pulse of 133 so the nurse looked at me and just said, "I'll be back in 30 minutes, hopefully you calm down." That was enough to drop it to 118/74 with a pulse of 55.

It's definitely worth asking for some time because you get anxious at the doctor's office. Good luck!
 
Haha the first time they took it my BP, I told the nurse that I normally get super nervous whenever someone takes my BP. It read something like 182/75 with a pulse of 133 so the nurse looked at me and just said, "I'll be back in 30 minutes, hopefully you calm down." That was enough to drop it to 118/74 with a pulse of 55.

It's definitely worth asking for some time because you get anxious at the doctor's office. Good luck!
That sounds a bit passive aggressive but i'll ask for time and do some deep mediation, thank you!
 
Do both interviews happen during same week? My faculty interviewer has already reached out, but I have yet to hear from a student interviewer.
 
I received a request to formally request an age waiver today, so I'm not really sure how to take that but at least its forward progress.
 
Do both interviews happen during same week? My faculty interviewer has already reached out, but I have yet to hear from a student interviewer.
Yes, they normally occur during the same week. If your interviewer doesn't contact you by the Thursday of the week that you're scheduled to interview, you need to contact your Admissions Counselor.
 
You guys are amazing, will report back
 
Jeez, I leave for a day and the forum blows up.
So my 2 cents. Keep in mind I'm prior enlisted and was in my blues, no idea how that affected things, but I still got asked "why military medicine?"

Regarding medical standards:
DoD Instruction 6130.03 vol.1, Medical Standards for Military Service: Appointment, Enlistment, or Induction.


Some stuff is waiverable, some isn't. Don't ask me, I'm not a doctor yet... It's funnier if you knew I'm Asian and that my friends like to joke about that.

Anyway.
I had both interviews in the same week. Incidentally I also had my DoDMERB that same week as well but that's just how the schedule turned out.
Both of mine were faculty. They reached out on Thursday, Friday the week prior to set up a time. The windows seem to vary based on their schedule so keep that in mind.
It was conversational to a point. I could tell they were reading, not from a script but from a list of questions. They were all pretty standard. I got a bit of a curveball when my first interviewer asked me what the most influential book I ever read was and my brain took a dump. Still, I think my "why military medicine" answer offset that some. I've been told that's the most important question you can answer, to which I agree.

The nature of my job involves briefing full-bird colonels and the like, but as it was for something so critical for my personal aspirations, I was a bit nervous. It seemed like we got the "formal" part out of the way because after that we swapped some war stories and I asked about their careers and their research, we ended up talking about that for over half of both interviews. Turned out one was running a study on a TBI/PTSD treatment and I was able to send their contact info to a couple friends who have been struggling with that. The other runs a regional medical course I knew my unit would benefit from for pre-deployment training. I don't know if that helped me but at the very least I got my friends and my unit some options.

I had a minor freakout today over grades and prerequisites. I saw somewhere "prerequisite grade no lower than a C." My admissions counselor passively reminded me I got as far as post-interview so I guess it doesn't matter now, at least I hope that's what she meant. I'd like to beat the crap out of young-me for not caring. Hopefully that won't be what derails everything and it indeed doesn't matter.
 
Jeez, I leave for a day and the forum blows up.
So my 2 cents. Keep in mind I'm prior enlisted and was in my blues, no idea how that affected things, but I still got asked "why military medicine?"

Regarding medical standards:
DoD Instruction 6130.03 vol.1, Medical Standards for Military Service: Appointment, Enlistment, or Induction.


Some stuff is waiverable, some isn't. Don't ask me, I'm not a doctor yet... It's funnier if you knew I'm Asian and that my friends like to joke about that.

Anyway.
I had both interviews in the same week. Incidentally I also had my DoDMERB that same week as well but that's just how the schedule turned out.
Both of mine were faculty. They reached out on Thursday, Friday the week prior to set up a time. The windows seem to vary based on their schedule so keep that in mind.
It was conversational to a point. I could tell they were reading, not from a script but from a list of questions. They were all pretty standard. I got a bit of a curveball when my first interviewer asked me what the most influential book I ever read was and my brain took a dump. Still, I think my "why military medicine" answer offset that some. I've been told that's the most important question you can answer, to which I agree.

The nature of my job involves briefing full-bird colonels and the like, but as it was for something so critical for my personal aspirations, I was a bit nervous. It seemed like we got the "formal" part out of the way because after that we swapped some war stories and I asked about their careers and their research, we ended up talking about that for over half of both interviews. Turned out one was running a study on a TBI/PTSD treatment and I was able to send their contact info to a couple friends who have been struggling with that. The other runs a regional medical course I knew my unit would benefit from for pre-deployment training. I don't know if that helped me but at the very least I got my friends and my unit some options.

I had a minor freakout today over grades and prerequisites. I saw somewhere "prerequisite grade no lower than a C." My admissions counselor passively reminded me I got as far as post-interview so I guess it doesn't matter now, at least I hope that's what she meant. I'd like to beat the crap out of young-me for not caring. Hopefully that won't be what derails everything and it indeed doesn't matter.
You and I definitely had the same interviewer (the one that asked about the influential book). He didn't even really let me introduce myself (cut me off as I was answering "How are you") before asking me a bunch of interview questions. Completely caught me off guard but at least the Q&A with him was insightful and somewhat conversational.
 
Hi! Curious if anyone would be open to discussing the different branches of the military with me- I have done extensive research and spoken to mentors, however I feel my knowledge is rudimentary at best. I’d be happy to serve in any branch but curious if someone could help speak to the culture of each.
USU's website has a general "How to pick a branch" page: Medschool, Academics, MD Program, Pick a Branch

I can't really speak for the culture since I'm a civilian. From what I've seen, it's all pretty homogenous and a "brothers/sisters in arms" mentality except the occasional branch-specific joke ("Momma packed me a box of crayons", "You kind of run out of options on a ship", etc.). Obviously there's more than that but at the end of the day, they're all a part of the same military.
 
USU's website has a general "How to pick a branch" page: Medschool, Academics, MD Program, Pick a Branch

I can't really speak for the culture since I'm a civilian. From what I've seen, it's all pretty homogenous and a "brothers/sisters in arms" mentality except the occasional branch-specific joke ("Momma packed me a box of crayons", "You kind of run out of options on a ship", etc.). Obviously there's more than that but at the end of the day, they're all a part of the same military.
There are definitely different cultures in the different branches.
 
Hi! Curious if anyone would be open to discussing the different branches of the military with me- I have done extensive research and spoken to mentors, however I feel my knowledge is rudimentary at best. I’d be happy to serve in any branch but curious if someone could help speak to the culture of each.
Hi! Curious if anyone would be open to discussing the different branches of the military with me- I have done extensive research and spoken to mentors, however I feel my knowledge is rudimentary at best. I’d be happy to serve in any branch but curious if someone could help speak to the culture of each.
I think this would be a hard question to answer without bias. I’ve been navy for a decade. I love the navy, but if I had joined the airforce would I be saying how much I loved the airforce?

Honestly, I think the biggest factor, other than maybe the culture, is if you want to do operational medicine, and if so which type.

A friend of mine in the airforce does critical care MEDEVAC’s on airborne platforms, so if that’s something you’d be interested in, then the airforce.

I want to work trauma in a forward surgical
suite, so I want to stay navy and go greenside (with marines). Or, with a fleet surgery team on an amphib.

Army has a lot of different opportunities operationally - but I’m less familiar with their culture.

I enjoy the culture of the navy, the maritime aspect, and all of our maritime traditions. Plus, the ability to work in forward deployed billets with the marines is a huge factor for me. I also think the navy is a good mix of military lifestyle, but it’s not as rigid as the army might be.
 
Hi! Curious if anyone would be open to discussing the different branches of the military with me- I have done extensive research and spoken to mentors, however I feel my knowledge is rudimentary at best. I’d be happy to serve in any branch but curious if someone could help speak to the culture of each.
Current USUHS army student.
Army has the most residency opportunities and locations. If you're interested in a competitive speciality of medicine, joining the army is certainly the best move.
 
Hi! Curious if anyone would be open to discussing the different branches of the military with me- I have done extensive research and spoken to mentors, however I feel my knowledge is rudimentary at best. I’d be happy to serve in any branch but curious if someone could help speak to the culture of each.
I am active duty enlisted AF and have worked personally with officers if you want to DM me your questions
 
Current USUHS army student.
Army has the most residency opportunities and locations. If you're interested in a competitive speciality of medicine, joining the army is certainly the best move.
Hi! Curious if anyone would be open to discussing the different branches of the military with me- I have done extensive research and spoken to mentors, however I feel my knowledge is rudimentary at best. I’d be happy to serve in any branch but curious if someone could help speak to the culture of each.
I can only speak to the enlisted side, a bit of AMEDD, some of the aid station clinic stuff, some of the operational stuff. I can't speak to the officer side except that it's very VERY relaxed.
If you DM me I'll try answer within the scope of my experiences.
 
Hello all! I hope you all have a great upcoming Thanksgiving week.

Can anyone speak to waitlist movement at this stage of the game? I interviewed 27 Sep and was WL'd 13 Nov, and Air Force was my preferred branch as I am currently AD Air Force. Should we expect to not hear anything until April when acceptances are finalized through AMCAS? Or maybe hear earlier?

Thanks in advance!
 
Hello all! I hope you all have a great upcoming Thanksgiving week.

Can anyone speak to waitlist movement at this stage of the game? I interviewed 27 Sep and was WL'd 13 Nov, and Air Force was my preferred branch as I am currently AD Air Force. Should we expect to not hear anything until April when acceptances are finalized through AMCAS? Or maybe hear earlier?

Thanks in advance!
It's still somewhat slow as other applicants are waiting on II or acceptance decisions from other schools, waivers, etc. Since you received the WL decision early, I would say that you're high up on the queue (in a good way) and you'll likely hear back [well] before the March-May Commit to Enroll dates for other schools. The Choose your Medical School opens up in Feb. so we may also see more movement then.

Hard to tell for certain, though.
 
Hello all! I hope you all have a great upcoming Thanksgiving week.

Can anyone speak to waitlist movement at this stage of the game? I interviewed 27 Sep and was WL'd 13 Nov, and Air Force was my preferred branch as I am currently AD Air Force. Should we expect to not hear anything until April when acceptances are finalized through AMCAS? Or maybe hear earlier?

Thanks in advance!
I would expect it to have significant movement in March/April through around June.
 
Hey all! Not sure if anyone will have a solid answer for this but figured worth a shot to ask. I interviewed Nov. 1 and they said "MAY hear a response in 10-12 weeks". Does anyone know if this is an accurate estimate or have others heard earlier/later? Thanks!
 
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