2023-2024 Baylor

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taco1572 said:
statistically speaking, what are the chances of me ending up at temple vs houston? I visited BCM Houston and Temple and while I’m ok-ish with ending up at Temple, I feel a lot more comfortable with the Houston vibes since I’ve only ever lived in bigger metropolitan cities. Confused on whether I should take the risk or not bc BCM Houston is hands down my top choice
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The dean of temple said they match you and he chooses people who are more entrepreneurial + there are BSMD + MDPHD that are guaranteed houston so it’s more like 80 20
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MCAThiccy said:
This hasn't been brought up, at least not near me. I will ask around on Monday. Also, we have an upcoming open house this upcoming saturday 🙂
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Open House Nov 4th?

Can you please provide link to sign up with details/times?

Thanks!
 
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pathological community sounds like a community of ill people. don't people usually just say pathology community
 
texasvandy said:
Currently all residency programs in Temple fall under this - Is there a plan to call them BCM - Scott and White Medical Center (Temple) program?
Texas A&M College of Medicine-Scott and White Medical Center (Temple) Program
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Not sure if I’m interpreting this question correctly but from what we’ve been told, all residencies at BSWH Temple will be home residency programs for BCM Temple students and they’re working on seeing if an equivalency would be worked out for BCM Houston residencies as well. That way if a BCM MS4 from either campus in the future applies to psych residency, their home programs would be the BCM Houston psych residencies as well as the BSWH-Temple psych residency program.
 
medlifestressin said:
Not sure if I’m interpreting this question correctly but from what we’ve been told, all residencies at BSWH Temple will be home residency programs for BCM Temple students and they’re working on seeing if an equivalency would be worked out for BCM Houston residencies as well. That way if a BCM MS4 from either campus in the future applies to psych residency, their home programs would be the BCM Houston psych residencies as well as the BSWH-Temple psych residency program.
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Yes it is what I was asking. 2023-24 season, the residency is being called A&M for BSWH Temple programs.

I was wondering if in a year or two they will be relabelled BCM. It sounds like that is what they are telling you.
 
Rite1234 said:
I have my interview this Friday, and I'm a little nervous about it. Getting into Baylor would be amazing!
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Depends on the interviewer but mine were great! They read my application and asked me questions based on that so it was on the easier side. Good luck 🙂
 
RightAngleC said:
Depends on the interviewer but mine were great! They read my application and asked me questions based on that so it was on the easier side. Good luck 🙂
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Thank you for the advice!
 
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2023applicantxd said:
The dean of temple said they match you and he chooses people who are more entrepreneurial + there are BSMD + MDPHD that are guaranteed houston so it’s more like 80 20
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that’s a good point - are you sure that all BSMD applicants are guaranteed houston?
 
I’ve been somewhat keeping up with this thread, but for clarities sake: there’s a chance that, if attending here, you can be sent to a campus outside of Houston without being able to choose?
 
burneracc said:
I’ve been somewhat keeping up with this thread, but for clarities sake: there’s a chance that, if attending here, you can be sent to a campus outside of Houston without being able to choose?
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The current Baylor process says you go through match and they will assign you a campus.

Someone came up with 81:19 odds for Houston vs Temple based on number of seats at each.
 
burneracc said:
I’ve been somewhat keeping up with this thread, but for clarities sake: there’s a chance that, if attending here, you can be sent to a campus outside of Houston without being able to choose?
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Yes, 40 people are sent to their campus in Temple! They fill it with volunteers at first. The selection process on filling the remaining spots in Temple was not disclosed, however we were told that something they look for are students with a business-y, leadership, entrepreneurial vibe on my interview day

edit: ranking Temple>Houston is not a guarantee to the Temple campus
 
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yearofmagicalthinking said:
Yes, 40 people are sent to their campus in Temple! They fill it with volunteers at first. The selection process on filling the remaining spots in Temple was not disclosed, however we were told that something they look for are students with a business-y, leadership, entrepreneurial vibe on my interview day
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Thanks a lot for the insights. Do you know when OOS students are notified of their campus selection?
 
You're given a portal link with campus selection preference about a week after matching. Then you learn which campus you're placed in a few weeks later (happened on March 17th, 2022).
 
Also, we just finished our penultimate exam today for Cardio, Respiratory, and Renal! Lots of info covered (such as meds, interventions, ultrasound, diseases, and ethics/social determinants of health). We're about to celebrate with a get together. For those coming to the open house tomorrow, ask us about our halloween costume party and us throwing a pie at the dean!
 
I finished up the interview today, and Baylor solidly impressed me. The new curriculum changes are really amazing, and they sound fantastic. The staff and students were super nice and inviting.

As far as my interview portions went, they were relatively dry and not conversational. My interviewers rapidly fired questions at me, which threw me a bit off.

Otherwise, this school is amazing, and a lot of the programs are exciting.
 
Rite1234 said:
I finished up the interview today, and Baylor solidly impressed me. The new curriculum changes are really amazing, and they sound fantastic. The staff and students were super nice and inviting.

As far as my interview portions went, they were relatively dry and not conversational. My interviewers rapidly fired questions at me, which threw me a bit off.

Otherwise, this school is amazing, and a lot of the programs are exciting.
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That was my experience with the interview here as well. Definitely the most stressful interview I’ve had so far.
 
MCAThiccy said:
You're given a portal link with campus selection preference about a week after matching. Then you learn which campus you're placed in a few weeks later (happened on March 17th, 2022).
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okay ty for the info, kinda messed up on their end tho cause someone's decision could depend on being near family in houston or the tmc
 
medguy0824 said:
okay ty for the info, kinda messed up on their end tho cause someone's decision could depend on being near family in houston or the tmc
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There are many other med schools with several locations which do this the same way.
It’s one more factor and a smallish element of chance to take into consideration.
If you must be in Houston there are 3 other options
 
Doctor...I_hope said:
The interview was great. Also, the fact that clinicals are going to be pass/fail soon, makes Baylor more appealing
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Honestly, this is slightly concerning to me on first glance. Please educate me: isn't this bad in terms of distinguishing yourself as an applicant for residencies? Like, how will residency PD's respond to pre-clerkship P/F, step 1 P/F, and now clinical P/F? The only concrete way that I see to distinguish yourself (academically) at BCM is through AOA and Step 2
 
While remaining completely professional I must say a few things: do not let not being matched into your preferred campus deter you from applying or interviewing at Baylor. Please understand that some individuals may prefer the regional campus over the central campus. As such they will preferentially be placed to the regional campus. Logically, the more individuals who are placed to the regional campus, the less likely you are to be placed in the regional campus if you do not want to be placed there. We are making the effort to preferentially select individuals who want to be placed in the regional campus so that individuals who do not want to be placed in a regional campus have less likelihood of being placed there.

With that being said, I want to clear up a few misconceptions. The students at the regional campus are not individuals who have lower mcat scores or lower gpas. We all deserve to be Baylor students and we all worked hard for our positions. Personally, these are some of the nicest people I've ever met I'm glad to be in their company. Often enough, I feel that I am not happy with my life. That's something I've been dealing with since my teens. At first, I was a little upset that I was placed in the temple campus. However, if I was in Houston, I would be severely depressed and I don't know what I would do to myself if I ever was in that situation again. Do I still have bouts? Of course. That's life. But I have 39 other people I can lean on and cry and hold when I need them. We celebrate our birthdays, we go to each other's houses and have dinners, we play tennis and pickleball, we go to our Dean's house and have dinner and read journal articles with him, and we love to be in each other's company.

When I get private messages of asking on whether we are lower tiered or lower ranked compared to the Houston students, or when individuals say that they love Baylor but they would hate to be placed in temple and if I could speak to the Dean to help them stay in Houston-- it upsets me. You're in a position where you have the privilege to apply to medical school and you have the privilege of being accepted into a medical school. Life doesn't owe you anything. Be grateful that you got into a medical school while some individuals are on their third cycle and have not received an interview and will not enter medical school.

If you truly do not wish to be placed at temple, appeal the decision. More often than not you will be shifted into the Houston campus. Do not feel entitled to anything in this life. Your goal in life is to help those who are dying, and you can learn those skills and empathy anywhere.

A great doctor is not measured by where they got their education, but by what they do with their education.
 
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I agree. AOA is only based off of shelf exams during your clinical rotations. Also, I believe that clinical rotations will be pass fail. The main ways that we are distinguishing ourselves from other schools is through Step 2, volunteering, research, AOA, and Dean's distinction.
 
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MCAThiccy said:
While remaining completely professional I must say a few things: do not let not being matched into your preferred campus deter you from applying or interviewing at Baylor. Please understand that some individuals may prefer the original campus over the central campus. As such they will preferentially be placed to the regional campus. Logically, the more individuals who are placed to the regional campus, the less likely you are to be placed in the regional campus if you do not want to be placed there. We are making the effort to preferentially select individuals who want to be placed in the regional campus so that individuals who do not want to be placed in a regional campus have less likelihood of being placed there.

With that being said, I want to clear up a few misconceptions. The students at the regional campus are not individuals who have lower mcat scores or lower gpas. We all deserve to be Baylor students and we all worked hard for our positions. Personally, these are some of the nicest people I've ever met I'm glad to be in their company. Often enough, I feel that I am not happy with my life. That's something I've been dealing with since my teens. At first, I was a little upset that I was placed in the temple campus. However, if I was in Houston, I would be severely depressed and I don't know what I would do to myself if I ever was in that situation again. Do I still have bouts? Of course. That's life. But I have 39 other people I can lean on and cry and hold when I need them. We celebrate our birthdays, we go to each other's houses and have dinners, we play tennis and pickleball, we go to our Dean's house and have dinner and read journal articles with him, and we love to be in each other's company.

When I get private messages of asking on whether we are lower tiered or lower ranked compared to the Houston students, or when individuals say that they love Baylor but they would hate to be placed in temple and if I could speak to the Dean to help them stay in Houston-- it upsets me. You're in a position where you have the privilege to apply to medical school and you have the privilege of being accepted into a medical school. Life doesn't owe you anything. Be grateful that you got into a medical school while some individuals are on their third cycle and have not received an interview and will not enter medical school.

If you truly do not wish to be placed at temple, appeal the decision. More often than not you will be shifted into the Houston campus. Do not feel entitled to anything in this life. Your goal in life is to help those who are dying, and you can learn those skills and empathy anywhere.

A great doctor is not measured by where they got their education, but by what they do with their education.
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@MCAThiccy is an outgoing person who keeps it real. What a great support and leader you have been on SDN :biglove:
 
I couldn’t agree more with MCAThiccy. From what I saw and heard yesterday, Temple gives fantastic opportunities to distinguish yourself, especially being so tight and familiar with the Dean and other faculty (much more personalized relationships and letters). Either way, coming from a phenomenal school like Baylor carries substantial weight on its own. Thank you MCAThiccy, you’re the best.
 
MCAThiccy said:
Also, we just finished our penultimate exam today for Cardio, Respiratory, and Renal! Lots of info covered (such as meds, interventions, ultrasound, diseases, and ethics/social determinants of health). We're about to celebrate with a get together. For those coming to the open house tomorrow, ask us about our halloween costume party and us throwing a pie at the dean!
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Duuuude - you better not be involved in throwing the pie. You still need to collect the key to the city and be declared defacto head of Temple campus. Decorum is important.
 
MCAThiccy said:
Did not throw it— just witnessed it
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Good, we need to get that key to the city and have background control of the school. you dont want to mess up that ortho and uro invites to be called neuro-derm-path-ortho-uro specialist.

on a side note this is texas and civilized people pour gatorade on their leaders. what is this pie business..
 
Reanox24 said:
Honestly, this is slightly concerning to me on first glance. Please educate me: isn't this bad in terms of distinguishing yourself as an applicant for residencies? Like, how will residency PD's respond to pre-clerkship P/F, step 1 P/F, and now clinical P/F? The only concrete way that I see to distinguish yourself (academically) at BCM is through AOA and Step 2
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You might be right about being able to distinguish oneself. however, I hope the residency PDs do a holistic review that includes the quality of LOR (which I believe could be based on performance). Also, they did not really give details, I think the student just briefly mentioned it.
 
Doctor...I_hope said:
You might be right about being able to distinguish oneself. however, I hope the residency PDs do a holistic review that includes the quality of LOR (which I believe could be based on performance). Also, they did not really give details, I think the student just briefly mentioned it.
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There is also research. This year is turning out to be a bit of a mess for residency applications without a step 1 score (only people who seem to have them are IMGs who take their time with the tests or didnt get in before) and some large primary care areas like internal medicine are giving too many interviews to some and none to others. The decisions are being made on Step 2 and AOA quite a bit at least based on those who are getting interviews everywhere. It is quite possible they have research also covered.

In 2-3 years you will definitely have a better idea and the landscape will keep changing too. Lot of the interviews now are also based on geography preference and signalling to specific programs and each specialty doing them differently.

Edit: Step 1s are also available for people with gap years.
 
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texasvandy said:
There is also research. This year is turning out to be a bit of a mess for residency applications without a step 1 score (only people who seem to have them are IMGs who take their time with the tests or didnt get in before) and some large primary care areas like internal medicine are giving too many interviews to some and none to others. The decisions are being made on Step 2 and AOA quite a bit at least based on those who are getting interviews everywhere. It is quite possible they have research also covered.

In 2-3 years you will definitely have a better idea and the landscape will keep changing too. Lot of the interviews now are also based on geography preference and signalling to specific programs and each specialty doing them differently.
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I am not a med student so I haven’t been able to uniquely understand the stress of having a non-P/F Step 1, but my goodness does the decision to make it P/F seem like a complete catastrophe. Looking forward even less to navigating the residency application landscape
 
Reanox24 said:
I am not a med student so I haven’t been able to uniquely understand the stress of having a non-P/F Step 1, but my goodness does the decision to make it P/F seem like a complete catastrophe. Looking forward even less to navigating the residency application landscape
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Some schools have already gone to P/F for rotations like Vanderbilt. In a way, it ensures unequal grading since not everyone is being graded the same with different attendees in their rotations who have their own idiosyncracies and many also can be FMGs who might expect some obsequious behavior from the students to grade them high. When a school is recruiting very high achieving students, it is hard to say some did extremely well while others were bottom 10% just based on uneven grading during the rotations.
 
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