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Cyla123 said:
Even though wayne doesn't have a neurosurgery program, can wayne med students still try to specialize in neurosurgery after taking steps2 and applying for residency?
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Medical students can apply to any specialty they want. People just look for home programs for competitive specialties because it makes it easier to match.
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Has anybody gotten the email for the MD admissions tour? I want to go but they gave way too little notice for touring on Jan 22 :/
 
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Anyone here know about the volunteer/service organizations at Wayne State medical school? What type of student services or clubs are at this school?
 
Is a February IS II a long shot for an acceptance? I know it’s rolling admission, but if we were interviewing 100% for a waitlist spot it seems like they’d say that then right?
 
premedmich3 said:
Is a February IS II a long shot for an acceptance? I know it’s rolling admission, but if we were interviewing 100% for a waitlist spot it seems like they’d say that then right?
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I mean, if they are interviewing you then you have a chance of acceptance, but given how many acceptances have already been given and how many interviewees are still waiting on decisions, it's pretty clear that chances are much lower at this point in the cycle
 
Cyla123 said:
Even though wayne doesn't have a neurosurgery program, can wayne med students still try to specialize in neurosurgery after taking steps2 and applying for residency?
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Henry Ford Hospital (one of our larger clinical affiliates) has a neurosurgery residency. While its dual affiliated with MSU, you'd still have the opportunity to do electives there. I also know several M4s who are applying to neurosurgery so its something that you can definitely do from Wayne State (or any other medical school).
 
CaptainWEMT said:
Henry Ford Hospital (one of our larger clinical affiliates) has a neurosurgery residency. While its dual affiliated with MSU, you'd still have the opportunity to do electives there. I also know several M4s who are applying to neurosurgery so its something that you can definitely do from Wayne State (or any other medical school).
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Thank you for this helpful information. 🙂
Does Henry Ford also have an orthopedic surgery residency?
 
Miminko said:
Has anybody gotten the email for the MD admissions tour? I want to go but they gave way too little notice for touring on Jan 22 :/
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Any idea if this tour for "admitted students" going to be different from the tour they had for the "interviewed students"? Maybe a current MD student can answer. Thanks.
 
arya1967 said:
Any idea if this tour for "admitted students" going to be different from the tour they had for the "interviewed students"? Maybe a current MD student can answer. Thanks.
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In the past, it was the same
 
For any current WSUSOM students, is there any free parking near the med school that you recommend? Where do you park on campus that’s walkable from the med school? If you do paid parking, which do you recommend? Some insight on this would be appreciated
 
umich2023 said:
For any current WSUSOM students, is there any free parking near the med school that you recommend? Where do you park on campus that’s walkable from the med school? If you do paid parking, which do you recommend? Some insight on this would be appreciated
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It's best to just get a parking pass (they send you a hangtag) and have it registered to the parking lot by Scott Hall (the med school) that way if you're ever in a pinch you can have definite parking. Its right across the street from both the med library, commons, and Scott and its right on Detroit Med Center (DMC) property so it's the most convenient. You can find more stuff here Welcome
and you can call them or email if you have specific questions about lots/where to go. Permits are a pay by semester. I did undergrad here and a MS at the SOM and its cheaper if you're going to be here 4+ times a week than paying by day. You can also load money onto your student ID (OneCard) and its like $4/day to park as a student in the lots. There's also street parking through Park Detroit but you have to feed the meter and a lot of them are only a 2 hour max.
 
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prettyfly4agnat said:
Hey guys, I got my waitlist in December (the 14th to be exact), and I have sent an update/letter of intent, as well as an updated transcript. Is there anything else I can do? I really wanna go here, I just don't know what else to do. It's been a very stressful month, so any help is appreciated. Also, what are my chances of getting in? (511 MCAT, 3.7 GPA, 1500 clinical hours)
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Send an update letter. Include your activities especially any volunteer/service you’ve done since you interviewed or after submitting application. Did you send thank you letters?
 
lcmb said:
Send an update letter. Include your activities especially any volunteer/service you’ve done since you interviewed or after submitting application. Did you send thank you letters?
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Include ties to Michigan somehow.
 
I really love the school, but I already sent an update letter in November. Should I send a letter of interest?
 
lcmb said:
Include ties to Michigan somehow.
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I already sent a letter of intent (with updates), and made clear my continued community outreach. I also sent thank you letters to my interviewers. Is there anything else I can possibly do?
 
havil said:
hey guys i am in my junior year in my second semester right now, and I am only taking 4 courses instead of 5 (so 12 credit hours instead of 15). Will that make me look bad? Will it hinder my application for med school?

has there anyone who has not completed a full load schedule and still got an II or A here?
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kinda late to respond lol but I took 12 credits my second semester junior year and I got an A, I think it's a non-issue
 
@merandderek I have a couple questions:

  1. I read that y'all have a full week off for every of the 3 exams in a block? So basically an entire week with 0 lectures or activities besides studying for the exam? Just surprised bc that's SWEET
  2. Why is the P4 exam not as stressful? Is the question content easier or is it just easier because of the fact you did 3 exams on the block before?
  3. What requires mandatory in-person attendance within the curriculum?
  4. What usually facilitates the community feel in the class, despite it being 300 students? Is it the Warrior MD Houses? I'd imagine that something specific has to help alleviate the large class feel
 
Also, when you get honors, it doesn't seem like it's per course - it's for the whole year?
 
hey is wayne state a true pass fail? I heard their grading scheme is very complicated
 
Sandman23 said:
@merandderek I have a couple questions:

  1. I read that y'all have a full week off for every of the 3 exams in a block? So basically an entire week with 0 lectures or activities besides studying for the exam? Just surprised bc that's SWEET
  2. Why is the P4 exam not as stressful? Is the question content easier or is it just easier because of the fact you did 3 exams on the block before?
  3. What requires mandatory in-person attendance within the curriculum?
  4. What usually facilitates the community feel in the class, despite it being 300 students? Is it the Warrior MD Houses? I'd imagine that something specific has to help alleviate the large class feel
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P4 is moreso an ethics-based class as opposed to a hard science class. So the exam questions follow the same pattern and the concepts in the course are more intuitive. Most people find it easier because, as long as you pay attention in the sessions and to the patterns in the practice questions, you should be able to easily approach most of the questions on the exam. So you don't need to put in too much effort to pass it.

All your small group sessions have mandatory in person attendance. I highlighted them in a previous post if you scroll a bit up. The only thing that doesn't require attendance are your lectures because those are asynchronous and online.

Definitely the houses/learning communities. They put you into smaller groups and you get to work with those people for most of the year. So they make approaching a group of people and making friends less intimidating because they already did that for you for the first 5 people you will meet. From there, your group just keeps expanding as each person makes more friends. So you really feel like an intertwined community.

Yes, honors is scoring one standard deviation above the mean for the whole year. So the SD and the mean are the averages of the 3 SDs and 3 means from the three blocks. So you can't honor an individual course, just the year
 
merandderek said:
P4 is moreso an ethics-based class as opposed to a hard science class. So the exam questions follow the same pattern and the concepts in the course are more intuitive. Most people find it easier because, as long as you pay attention in the sessions and to the patterns in the practice questions, you should be able to easily approach most of the questions on the exam. So you don't need to put in too much effort to pass it.

All your small group sessions have mandatory in person attendance. I highlighted them in a previous post if you scroll a bit up. The only thing that doesn't require attendance are your lectures because those are asynchronous and online.

Definitely the houses/learning communities. They put you into smaller groups and you get to work with those people for most of the year. So they make approaching a group of people and making friends less intimidating because they already did that for you for the first 5 people you will meet. From there, your group just keeps expanding as each person makes more friends. So you really feel like an intertwined community.

Yes, honors is scoring one standard deviation above the mean for the whole year. So the SD and the mean are the averages of the 3 SDs and 3 means from the three blocks. So you can't honor an individual course, just the year
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I was wondering about their #1 as well, the week you get off after the block is that week completely class/lab free or are there still mandatory things to attend?
 
Aqua Life said:
I was wondering about their #1 as well, the week you get off after the block is that week completely class/lab free or are there still mandatory things to attend?
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Sorry, thought I answered that. It's a complete week off. You have 0 responsibilities during that week. They usually refrain from even unlocking the next block's canvas page so students don't feel pressure to start looking at the new material.
 
merandderek said:
Sorry, thought I answered that. It's a complete week off. You have 0 responsibilities during that week. They usually refrain from even unlocking the next block's canvas page so students don't feel pressure to start looking at the new material.
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No you're totally fine! Wow, that's really awesome of them! So aside from like official school breaks we would also get off 3 weeks during the semester basically??
 
Aqua Life said:
No you're totally fine! Wow, that's really awesome of them! So aside from like official school breaks we would also get off 3 weeks during the semester basically??
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3 weeks off spread off over the full year! So one week off at the end of Sept/beginning of Oct, 1/1.5 weeks off around Christmas, and then you have a month off in March as your "summer break" between M1 and M2. In M2, we had a week off at the end of June (this was a bit longer than a week because we didn't start again until after the fourth of July), another week off at the end of Sept/beginning of Oct., and then dedicated once you finish December exams through mid-March.
 
merandderek said:
3 weeks off spread off over the full year! So one week off at the end of Sept/beginning of Oct, 1/1.5 weeks off around Christmas, and then you have a month off in March as your "summer break" between M1 and M2. In M2, we had a week off at the end of June (this was a bit longer than a week because we didn't start again until after the fourth of July), another week off at the end of Sept/beginning of Oct., and then dedicated once you finish December exams through mid-March.
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Ahh got it!! So there is no summer break between M1 and M2 other than for the month of March and then we start M2 in April?

And then for M2 dedicated are we completely off from classes/labs/all that and just solely studying time from after December exams until mid March?
 
wayne state requries a minmum of 3 LOR and a max of 5, would it look better if i submit 5 LOR?
 
Mr.Smile12 said:
This is a good time to do a little research. 🙂 We cover this in Becoming a Student Doctor.

Clue: I don't think the prompt does a great job defining "healthcare issues". A lot of issues can be loosely connected as healthcare issues. (If they struck out the word healthcare, that would be clearer. )

Message if you need to.
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in becoming a student doctor? can you please elaborate?
 
Couple Qs:
  • I saw on a previous post that the first 3 exams in a block are in-house & the one at the end is NBME. Is the P4 exam the one that is NBME?
  • Also, would you say that in-house exams are in line enough with Step to help you become ready for it before you begin dedicated or does it bog you down into details?
 
is there anyone from the early december interview group (like 12/1) that has heard anything? this is getting pretty crazy lol
 
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