CHOOSE YOUR OWWN IV - Game Thread

[supershorty]

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As long as they're alive roles that give result of "guilty" or "not guilty" will get the opposite results

I've realized that this is more powerful than I realize because at least per the Wiki, more affs give guilty/not guilty as a result than I thought (I thought based on my previous cop results just saying someone was not mafia that maybe the guilty/not phrasing was specific to one of the other type of seer mechanics, but it's not on the Wiki that way)

 

[potentialsheltervet]

@potentialsheltervet you did react to this fwiw

Yeah, I asked you why afterward lol

 

[Zenge142]

roles that give result of "guilty" or "not guilty"

Which would be Cops (And JOATs 1x Cop ability), Seer, FBI Agent, Conspiracy Theorist... I think that's more or less all of them?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

well
Dubz is not mafia unless someone out there chose psychotrooper, then

 

[samac]

I did expect this to garner more of a reaction

That’s the hard part in multiball. I’m like aight cool

 

[Zenge142]

Which would be Cops (And JOATs 1x Cop ability), Seer, FBI Agent, Conspiracy Theorist... I think that's more or less all of them?

Although it bothers me that Conspiracy Theorists will investigate as Guilty to "Other Alien Investigators" and the only other Alien Investigator I can find seems to be Town Cop-of-all-Trades

 

[fruitsalad]

Idk zenge has a lot of strong egg opinions

explain mildly

 

[samac]

I don't feel like it's that big of a revelation in this setup, unfortunately. It's one of those things that's like "cool, okay", but in this setup, negatives mean a lot less than positives.

I checked several scum in CYO II but because the seering roles only tell you one faction, it's just kind of meh when you get a negative result. which is all I got in that game and I'm still bitter about it.

I'm less interested in that and more interested in why you chose Dubz.

WHY ARE YOU HERE

 

[potentialsheltervet]

hi, fruit.

 

[Zenge142]

explain mildly

I mean I definitely won't explain this "mildly" so someone else should take the wheel

 

[samac]

Me: not a single Dubz is on a single village list

PSV: Dubz is being townread

I did today (begrudgingly)

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I did today (begrudgingly)

yes, I'm not sure why Dubz is acting like she is not being townread

 

[Zenge142]

I did today (begrudgingly)

But she's not mafia!... or she's not...not mafia! or she is mafia... Those are different I swear

 

[fruitsalad]

With the caveat that I haven't read more than half the thread at this point and thus have very little idea what's happening, the players I do not feel I have a good grip on are the following:
barks
rae
fruit
beans
SAR

i don’t know how to feel about this

i keep getting grouped with other scumreads i mentioned

 

[fruitsalad]

well SAR is currently neutral

 

[potentialsheltervet]

i don’t know how to feel about this

i keep getting grouped with other scumreads i mentioned

because you aren't necessarily all scumming together?

 

[fruitsalad]

I also feel like scum would have taken the opportunity to bus spurs when he was unanimously sus read yesterday

unanimously? really?

 

[Zenge142]

because you aren't necessarily all scumming together?

Insert Multiball.gif here

 

[fruitsalad]

I mean the end of the last night cycle he was pretty clearly going down the next day. I don’t know how spurs feels about being bussed (have we seen that before? Idk) but it would've been prime for it to look like an early push before he actually started getting a wagon

really? such strong statements

 

[Clem J]

Yeah, I asked you why afterward lol

I...don't understand the question then? I feel it's pretty clear? I'm not trying to be evasive, I genuinely just don't know how to answer

 

[fruitsalad]

because you aren't necessarily all scumming together?

it’s looking retaliatory is my point

i list scumreads, scumreads list me and each other in their own scumreads

 

[potentialsheltervet]

it’s looking retaliatory is my point

i list scumreads, scumreads list me and each other in their own scumreads

Uhhhh if you're scumreading, especially if it was before Zenge said anything, then I genuinely had no idea.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I...don't understand the question then? I feel it's pretty clear? I'm not trying to be evasive, I genuinely just don't know how to answer

I don't understand the lock town claim lol. Why? How?

 

[Clem J]

I don't understand the lock town claim lol. Why? How?

...because I don't think they'd choose a not-town alignment given the combination of their general proclivities and recent play history?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

...because I don't think they'd choose a not-town alignment given the combination of their general proclivities and recent play history?

Oh! This is jogging my memory now.

 

[Clem J]

Oh! This is jogging my memory now.

It's literally in what I quoted smh

 

[beans2020]

rae/spurs - UNLIKELY due to rae's heavy push on spurs. I doubt there would be bussing to this nature on N1 of the game.
clem/spurs - POSSIBLE. There is nothing unpairing between the two of them. Spurs discusses not wanting to vote Clem bc of pushing him hard last game and then proceeds to village read him. Clem doesn't say anything specific about Spurs.
SAR/spurs - POSSIBLE. I don't think either of them said anything about the other except for Spurs saying he didn't have a read on SAR.
kitz/spurs - UNLIKELY. Spurs started scumreading kitz after the derp!clear when most everyone else was village reading her. I don't know why spurs would throw his nooblet (comparatively) packmate under the bus like that AND draw that much attention to her.
dubz/spurs - POSSIBLE? There isn't anything massively unclearing between the two of them. Dubz starts as soft village reading spurs and he ends up in the POE later which does feel like a natural progression. Spurs doesn't offer much of an opinion on Dubz. The answer here is IDK.
samac/spurs - UNLIKELY due to both mutually sussing one another starting early in the game.
alissa/spurs - POSSIBLE. There are barely any interactions between alissa and spurs besides mutually village reading each other.
apop/spurs - POSSIBLE. There isn't much unpairing between the two of them. Spurs village reads apop and apop says she thinks spurs is neutral, maybe scum but unclear. That's it.
zenge/spurs - UNLIKELY due to spurs pushing for a zenge yeet D1.
barks/spurs - UNLIKELY due to barks voting spurs D1 pretty early on. I don't think there would be a bussing attempt like this.
psv/spurs - POSSIBLE. Very few interactions - spurs village reads PSV and PSV doesn't have much to say about spurs except for gentle questioning why people are scumreading him.
shorty/spurs - UNLIKELY. Shorty is sus of spurs right off the bat. Also, if we believe shorty's claim about JOAT and being vanillaized I'm not sure this is even worth pursuing.
fruit/spurs - UNLIKELY. Spurs becomes sus of fruit very quickly and fruit reciprocates that. I don't think they would have interacted in that way as partners.

 

[Zenge142]

All Players who May not have had any village role options:

Rae, Dubz, samac, apop, Barks, PSV, Fruit

 

[fruitsalad]

Let's talk about fruit
Why is he being widely village read?

i’m not widely village read, i’m actively attacked by scum

 

[beans2020]

Guys that took forever. I will do the spurs/beans post too but it will not be right this second bc I need a break
The Tl;DR is that PSV, apop, alissa, SAR, and clem seem like possible wolf partners for spurs.
Of this group the interactions between spurs and alissa made me the most suspicious.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

All Players who May not have had any village role options:

Rae, Dubz, samac, apop, Barks, PSV, Fruit

How are you deducing this?

 

[Zenge142]

How are you deducing this?

Discard roles were Scum = It's possible they weren't given any non-scum choices

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Discard roles were Scum = It's possible they weren't given any non-scum choices

Hmm.

 

[apoptosis09]

Discard roles were Scum = It's possible they weren't given any non-scum choices

How likely is it that a person gets all scum choices, Mr Numbers?

 

[apoptosis09]

How likely is it that a person gets all scum choices, Mr Numbers?

(This reads back a little sassy but I meant it positively 😅)

 

[samac]

How are you deducing this?

The dc list I think

 

[kitzsuna]

I woke up this morning wondering if I gave kitz too quick of a clear, but after my interactions with her yesterday, I don't have any idea how I'm going to sort her because I've pulled healthy teeth in a cadaver lab with less effort than I felt like I was putting in to get anything out of her yesterday.

But i gave you fruit 🥹

 

[supershorty]

But i gave you fruit 🥹

Why'd you choose me?

 

[fruitsalad]

Me: not a single Dubz is on a single village list

PSV: Dubz is being townread

wait what? she only said you’re not mafia?

 

[fruitsalad]

Why'd you choose me?

OKAY I AM CLOSING SDN AND NOT COMING BACK BEFORE 12:30. PLEASE DEPLOY SLAPS IF I DO, INCLUDING IF I REACT TO ANYTHING.

shorty pls

 

[fruitsalad]

unless central time

 

[fruitsalad]

HEY! HEY HEY HEY! IT'S NOT 12:30!

thank you zenges

 

[fruitsalad]

Tipsy, yeah probably

explain briefly pls

 

[potentialsheltervet]

wait what? she only said you’re not mafia?

naur

 

[kitzsuna]

Anyway, I have higher priorities than sorting that slot today, and I still feel like that derpclear moment felt like lost townie. The responses that she gave me weren't all that different from how she played as town in the last game. Hopefully she answers my question about what she'd lie detect if she could, because I think that would give me the most info about her tbh.

Ngl head empty and havent even been thinking about that since i didnt have that ability this game

After sleep i am leaning more towards voting fruit or beans or barks. I didnt like all of fruits vote flips but he did explain his thought process if i recall

 

[fruitsalad]

Dubz is not mafia.

i’m confused

 

[samac]

i’m confused

Cop shot

 

[fruitsalad]

well
Dubz is not mafia unless someone out there chose psychotrooper, then

… i don’t know what a psychotrooper is, hold pls while i read that giant role list

 

[supershorty]

unless central time

Even if it was central time, it wouldn't be 12:30 yet lol

 

[fruitsalad]

Cop shot

yes but i think i’m missing something since that only rules out WZ being mafia not implying she’s village