CHOOSE YOUR OWWN IV - Game Thread

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WildZoo said:
It does remind me a bit of late Goats beans (granted I haven't actually read the posts!)

But idk if I care for the focus on pairing interactions specifically in this setup.

I should probably read the posts.
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This would be beans' first (likely) faction game right?
 
supershorty said:
I need people who have played with me before to please note that I AM TRYING REALLY HARD to not relentlessly go after something the way I did previously, even if I'm being persistent, because IT IS HARD FOR ME NOT TO AND I AM GENUINELY TRYING TO PLAY MORE GENTLY THAN I USED TO
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Sometimes if people repeatedly disengage from something, it's not because they're ignoring you to be annoying, it's because the game has stopped being fun and getting entrenched in something where obviously we're diametrically opposed and you think I'm being difficult when I'm not trying to be is not productive for anyone
And my priority is not on you being able to solve my aff right now because I would simply rather be yeeted than continue getting bogged down in something that is intensely not fun for me, and if you aren't helped in reading me from what I've given you so far that's fine. I get it. Please recognize this current gamestate is extremely frustrating for me to engage with in the first place and it's not like I'm intentionally trying to be specifically irritating for you.
 
samac said:
The work today feels village. I had her as a wolf lean yesterday but I don’t know if scum beans can replicate the effort she has had here.
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also did you actually read the content of that big post she made, or did you just go "big post lots of work"
 
I do remember her isoing herself though which is a little weird to do but it didn’t have pretty colors and it’s her take on herself and did not read it lol
 
samac said:
I do remember her isoing herself though which is a little weird to do but it didn’t have pretty colors and it’s her take on herself and did not read it lol
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To be fair, I specifically asked her to before I did my own ISO, because I wanted to know what she felt was unpairing.
 
beans2020 said:
rae/spurs - UNLIKELY due to rae's heavy push on spurs. I doubt there would be bussing to this nature on N1 of the game.
clem/spurs - POSSIBLE. There is nothing unpairing between the two of them. Spurs discusses not wanting to vote Clem bc of pushing him hard last game and then proceeds to village read him. Clem doesn't say anything specific about Spurs.
SAR/spurs - POSSIBLE. I don't think either of them said anything about the other except for Spurs saying he didn't have a read on SAR.
kitz/spurs - UNLIKELY. Spurs started scumreading kitz after the derp!clear when most everyone else was village reading her. I don't know why spurs would throw his nooblet (comparatively) packmate under the bus like that AND draw that much attention to her.
dubz/spurs - POSSIBLE? There isn't anything massively unclearing between the two of them. Dubz starts as soft village reading spurs and he ends up in the POE later which does feel like a natural progression. Spurs doesn't offer much of an opinion on Dubz. The answer here is IDK.
samac/spurs - UNLIKELY due to both mutually sussing one another starting early in the game.
alissa/spurs - POSSIBLE. There are barely any interactions between alissa and spurs besides mutually village reading each other.
apop/spurs - POSSIBLE. There isn't much unpairing between the two of them. Spurs village reads apop and apop says she thinks spurs is neutral, maybe scum but unclear. That's it.
zenge/spurs - UNLIKELY due to spurs pushing for a zenge yeet D1.
barks/spurs - UNLIKELY due to barks voting spurs D1 pretty early on. I don't think there would be a bussing attempt like this.
psv/spurs - POSSIBLE. Very few interactions - spurs village reads PSV and PSV doesn't have much to say about spurs except for gentle questioning why people are scumreading him.
shorty/spurs - UNLIKELY. Shorty is sus of spurs right off the bat. Also, if we believe shorty's claim about JOAT and being vanillaized I'm not sure this is even worth pursuing.
fruit/spurs - UNLIKELY. Spurs becomes sus of fruit very quickly and fruit reciprocates that. I don't think they would have interacted in that way as partners.
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This is going to be a weird question, Can you tell me how you came to those conclusions? Like did you work in 2 tabs or did you work in your role pm or what
 
Barkley13 said:
Why Rae?

Something was tingly there yesterday but I felt better later in the day/during night.
(I have no further details on this at this time)
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I feel like she is riding the coat rails of spurs and her contribution today has been trying to pull people off PSV.
 
samac said:
Like did you work in 2 tabs or did you work in your role pm or what
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I worked on my ISO just in the thread, rather than in my role PM like I used to, and as I was getting to the bottom of it, I did have the errant thought of "if the forum eats this, it's no one's fault but my own" :laugh:
 
supershorty said:
beans is one of the players who I feel like I really don't have a read on, and last night, a few of her comments didn't sit right with me, so despite saying that I wasn't going to do any ISOs this game (which I already have gone against by planning to ISO PSV later)... I did one lol.

tl;dr: I don't feel that there are any unpairing interactions here. If anything, I see beans make an offhand comment that Spurs was appealing because she believes he would choose scum, but that's hardly an unpairing interaction in my world, especially when she goes on to village lean him after that. She starts expressing more doubt of him later on, but it's after other people had expressed discomfort there, like me, Dubz, and others. I'm not going to say that can only be paired and sensing a change in the tide, because that would be silly - she is a newer player and it's possible that she started to get swayed by the opinions of others and came around to a more correct vibe on him. However, that's not the vibe that I have in the context of her being quick to reply to fruit and say that there are multiple clearly unpairing interactions. Additionally, I don't feel that her progressions on other players (namely samac and Zenge) are very natural, and I'm not keen on some of the things surrounding her CG vote.

I don't think this post is AI. However, it's important for later, so I pulled it.


I know that fruit felt that a series of posts starting with this one was backtracking in a sus way, and I'm not sure that I agree - I think that walking her initial sus of kitz and rae back feels okayish in the context of the rest of the thread.


I'm not sure that mentioning Spurs here feels organic, but this post mentions almost everyone that she had on her initial "willing to vote within this group" post (excluding fruit), so if I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt, she was working through that. If I'm not giving her the benefit of the doubt, it feels awkward and clunky to throw him in the way she did.


This feels pretty organic to me, I think.



I pulled this comment because I wanted to get on a soapbox, but it's not actually relevant to the rest of the ISO lmao
I'm not going to wolf read this comment necessarily, because it's phrased differently than what I'm about to soapbox about, but since it is a feeling that I hold strongly, I'm just going to put it out there for the record that I always think that dismissing D1 as random/a crapshoot/unlikely to get a wolf is wolfy. D1 has the purest interactions you're going to get, simply due to gamestate, and I think it's one of the most important days to look at retrospectively.


So ... there is NOTHING in this ISO prior to this post that actually says anything about why beans thought this. Unfortunately, I'd already fallen off being able to keep up with the vote tally in my spreadsheet - what I want to do is look at this and see how many people were already voting CG and if this feels bandwagony. In fact, throughout this entire ISO, other than the first comment about "would choose scum," there's very minimal content on CG to give any insight into the read there - and then she goes on later to say that she feels she's an easy misyeet, but... there's really no analysis at all.


I don't really like this hedginess and leaving the door open to backtrack these reads later if necessary.






Again, there is NOTHING to justify this statement. If this were a normal setup, I would say that this had me worried about TMI - however, that doesn't really apply the same way in this game because the scum also don't know someone is village, they just know someone isn't the same faction. I'm more bothered by the total lack of attention to CG in the rest of her ISO than I am by this comment made in this specific game. I'm particularly bothered by it because she stayed there, leading the wagon (disclaimer: because I don't have my spreadsheet up to date, I am not sure she actually was the one to start the wagon, though I know she wasn't the first person who ever voted CG yesterday because fruit did that before I fell off with tallying).


The timing of this is squidgy. I want to say that I can see it being town realizing that they're wrong - however, I don't think that Good Place is a good example because in early game, Spurs was an inclusive 3p, and that's not going to play the same way. Now, that being said, I do recognize that the time Spurs wolfed, beans was also a wolf, and I think it's harder to look back at a game where you were wolfing WITH someone and apply a town perspective of their play to then be able to read and recognize scummy posts of theirs later.

Wow I hate how I phrased that, but I'm going to leave it, because if I'm doing ISOs this game, the people who haven't played with me before get to experience the full level of unhinge that they can be, which includes me writing my thoughts out and then being like wtf does that even say.

Attempted rephrase: because beans was wolfing with Spurs in the noob game, it may be more difficult for her to necessarily see scummy posts from him in this game and directly apply reasoning of "oh this was similar to what he did in the noob game, where he was scum" because she wasn't trying to solve him in the noob game. She knew what he was.

Anyway, that's the more charitable take on this comment, and I typed that all out but don't really believe in it much myself. I don't like how the comment feels.


I don't know why this feels a little off to me, I might be confbiasing myself at this point, but the "there's still time for it to take off" reads with a weird connotation to me.




I personally hate statements like this because they feel a little "omg look at how towny I am".


Okay, so a couple things here. The samac read doesn't really track with the comments that she was making about how she wasn't sure if samac could be in her wolf range - that whole mason debacle had already happened by the time she was saying stuff like that. Similarly, moving Zenge up to a townlean doesn't fit with what she was saying before about him, for similar reasons. I have no real issues with her neutrals category, other than I think the 3p comment about me specifically was a touch odd because when she was expressing reservations about other vets, it was just about scum, whereas with me, it was ONLY 3p. I don't know how closely she was following the thread, because it did come up that I like being 3p, but it wasn't heavily discussed, and so to me, it feels like that line is planted by someone else telling her that I like 3p. However, since my current inclination is to pair her with Spurs, that doesn't really track because he wouldn't know that either, neither of them have ever played with me, and in fact, much of this roster didn't play my one really notable 3p game (though I was also 3p of a different flavor in 10th Anni, Numbers, and Make Your Own, and 2 of those were by request lol). Also interesting is that fruit has plummeted in her reads when the last thing that she said about him was that he was village, and the justification for dropping him all the way to her POE was that he was defensive (personally, I thought fruit's posts read as frustrated town, especially when there have been multiple games now where he's stated he's trying to change up his play). And finally, the Spurs read just feels like she's going with the wind there. I don't feel there's a natural progression of that read.


I pulled this because it mentioned Spurs, but I don't really have any commentary to add. I just hate quotes with nothing after them, so here we are.


I don't think Spurs was under "a lot" of heat. I think multiple players had expressed discomfort with him, but that's not the same in my world as people contingency voting, for example. That being said, I did notice something Spurs was doing in this game that was also a way that I used to get to a scum read on Truenamer (who I have a godread on), and it WAS related to this. So I'm not saying it's a bad observation - I just don't know that I believe it's coming from a towny mindset.


I'm probably reading into this too much, because my instinct is to say that this is a little over the top, but that's me being uncharitable and I used to confbias myself by not being cognizant of things like that. So while I don't like it, I'm not going to factor it into my read ... much.


Yeah, I don't think that interaction is at all unpairing. I don't think anything in this ISO was unpairing. I actually think the opposite.
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Season 6 GIF by Paramount+

Actually really good points under that spoiler tag tbh
 
samac said:
Season 6 GIF by Paramount+

Actually really good points under that spoiler tag tbh
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You convinced me to actually read it and I hate to say I think I'm seeing what they're seeing 😅
Makes me a little nervous bc last time I was on a beans vote I didnt feel great about it was a misyeet, but I'll see where this goes for now
 
supershorty said:
I need people who have played with me before to please note that I AM TRYING REALLY HARD to not relentlessly go after something the way I did previously, even if I'm being persistent, because IT IS HARD FOR ME NOT TO AND I AM GENUINELY TRYING TO PLAY MORE GENTLY THAN I USED TO
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I can attest to the effort here and as someone who has been relentlessly pursued (see casino post fake claim), it has not gone unnoticed or unappreciated
 
samac said:
I would just like to know where your head is at.
If you’re village I do want to find you
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well, I provided a list of the players I haven't really formed a read on. SAR is null because she's still not been here with me. beans's pair hunting to me seems... NAI? I'm not finding myself swayed. Rae and barks I have seen post while I've been lurking. Barks feels like... detached. Like she's just periodically tapping the glass. So I could go there. But who knows.
fruit was coming to conclusions that were truly so confusing to me that I don't know what to make of it.
 
samac said:
This is going to be a weird question, Can you tell me how you came to those conclusions? Like did you work in 2 tabs or did you work in your role pm or what
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It was 1 tab which is probably why it took forever lol. I listed everyone and then iso'd their interactions with spurs (+ spurs' interactions with them) and wrote down my conclusions here in the thread.
honestly the 2 tab thing would have saved so much time
 
Day 2 Yeet Tally
beans (3) - fruit, shorty, apop
rae () -
Barks (1) - alissa
PSV (3) - Zenge, samac, Clem
fruit () -
Zenge (1) - kitz

6/14
yeet close in ~5.5 hours
 
potentialsheltervet said:
well, I provided a list of the players I haven't really formed a read on. SAR is null because she's still not been here with me. beans's pair hunting to me seems... NAI? I'm not finding myself swayed. Rae and barks I have seen post while I've been lurking. Barks feels like... detached. Like she's just periodically tapping the glass. So I could go there. But who knows.
fruit was coming to conclusions that were truly so confusing to me that I don't know what to make of it.
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Do you believe a beans yeet might be the way to go?
 
potentialsheltervet said:
hm.
I will note rae seems to be relatively here, as seen in engaging with my dog comment and shorty's tag, but did not interact with game related content. Hm.
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I’m catching up. I just got home and have words to say but need to get my thoughts together.

I have a public health exam but I’m going to try to get some quick thoughts on the board first.
 
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