England - Game Thread

[Crayola227]

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Still a lot to catch up on, but just to get something out there

Execute SAR

For reasons I need to look into that AM will hate.


Also, @samac , did you have to break the DocE v April tie?

Sar is dead

 

[WildZoo]

Okay. What are 3P. 3 different groups? 2 wolf and 1 village? Or 3 wolf and 1 village?

3p = third party. Non-wolf, non-village.

 

[Crayola227]

I'd prefer if having a hard edge isnt considered a part of my meta, ever. When I did that iso of Pleasy I was in a bad mood and totally tunneled into her and was a rude ***hole too.

That's not what I mean by hard edge. One could also say taking a firm stand, standing up to people, as examples.

 

[Animal Midwife]

That was fast. Why do you think she is village?

I've just become comfortable with Barks's playstyle over the years. I think her pushes have been good candidates to look into and seem to come from a genuine mindset.

 

[mkg323]

Who do you think we should be voting for instead of you? Sorry if you said this already and I missed it

To be entirely 100% fair, AM has given reasons when asked and given reads on other players outside of her initial focus list when asked.

I think Bread would be a good start. Cyndia would also be an option, I havent seen anything from her that stands out as different from Bioshock. I'd still like to see Alissa's explanation for why she presumably took Z out of her POE, or at least didn't put her vote back there during D1, as he hadn't posted much at the time. I'm reading him village from this push on me, because he's right I've been playing like garbage which sucks to admit.
And if AM gave her thoughts after, I might have missed them cause my brain is kinda fried right now.

 

[Stagg737]

SAR is dead, stagg

Well then I guess I'll get instant satisfaction about finding out if my tinfoil was right

 

[Crayola227]

What does one wolf flips mean? This is what I was thinking when I mentioned turning/conversion. I assume flips from one side to another?

Flip is a term hearkening back to table top card game origins. In the card game, when a player is voted to die, they flip their game card over revealing their role and affiliation in the game.

The reveal whenever a player dies, showing their affiliation and role in the write up, is the flip.

Also when someone "turns up" dead, or goes "tits up" I think flip sorta encapsulates that meaning too, so a good term all around imo.

Once we know who one wolf is, it will be easier to find their partners by looking at interactions or lack thereof.

 

[alissa14]

I think Bread would be a good start. Cyndia would also be an option, I havent seen anything from her that stands out as different from Bioshock. I'd still like to see Alissa's explanation for why she presumably took Z out of her POE, or at least didn't put her vote back there during D1, as he hadn't posted much at the time. I'm reading him village from this push on me, because he's right I've been playing like garbage which sucks to admit.
And if AM gave her thoughts after, I might have missed them cause my brain is kinda fried right now.

I took zenge out of my POE because I agreed with a reads list he posted Monday. I can quote it if you like

 

[PippyPony]

Day Two - Keep Calm and WW On - Vote Tally

AM (0) -
Alissa (1) - finn
Zenge (1) - Cray
Bobloblaw (1) - Ms P
Viscernable (3) - cyndia, capri, sunshine
LIS (1) -
Mayo (0) -
Sunshine (2) - LIS, DocE
DocEspana (1) - Mayo
WZ (0) -
Dina (1) - samac
Finn (2) - genny, alley
Ms P (1) - viscernable
MKG (5) - barks, zenge, Dubz, AM, dina
genny (0) -
Bread (1) - mkg

@mkg323[/USER] you are in the lead
19/24 players voting
Voting closes in <2 hours

 

[alissa14]

Oh btw the MsP/bob thing I read as v/v

 

[alissa14]

POE for me consists of cyndia, Capri, bread, finn, stagg (need more here), sporty (need more here), barks (solidly neutral), dubz (solidly neutral)

 

[capri1722]

I never mentioned SAR before her death

Bet

Am I the only one with a theory as to why this happened

^ on page 26. SAR died on page 37.

 

[alissa14]

Yeet capri

I could be wrong but I feel like mkg is gonna be a misyeet

 

[capri1722]

Damn I lost my place posting that...

...how tf did mkg get so ahead so fast?

 

[DocEspana]

You’re still in my neutrals and I don’t really follow his train of thought here, but I do find it interesting that you’re the one person who would meet his criteria for suspicion on Enigma’s death, and are the only one saying Enigma must have been random.

... which brings me to how the heck did Doc E go from it must be a PM partner of enigma (Samac), to rambling about defending Visc despite not even thinking she’s NOT a wolf necessarily, to defending MKG, to reaching a conclusion of a naked vote on me?!

I didn't say it NEEDED to be a p.m. partner of enigma. I only said we should look into that. Enigma has the sort of role that might give a half disclosure to a p.m. partner and would get themselves smoked by that p.m. partner if they happen to be a wolf. I'm just trying to read the tea leaves. I openly said right up from the beginning that it was a very subjective suspicion, that killing off a good role could theoretically happen by accident, and that I wanted more information. The vote was just a way to put pressure on people. I was requesting information on multiple different people at the same time.

You left out some of my other votes today. I voted a lot today.

I like visc. I'm not going to go out there and tell people that there's no way they are a wolf. I'm only saying that I don't like to vote against them and people should be aware that if there is a possibility they are going to come in first, I'm going to vote whatever it takes to protect them. So make sure if you want them lynched that they are up by two votes. But I can also admit they haven't been acting perfectly. But, they came to my rescue and I see no reason why the Lynch vote against them is particularly convincing. So I'm going to go out there and defend them.

I tried to lynch MKG yesterday. I strongly considered opening my day with voting to Lynch MKG again. But my criticism yesterday was of their approach. I thought it was too aggressive. I thought they had a bad read and they were being very aggressive about it. If you noticed, people are now criticizing them for not being aggressive enough. Some people think that's a wolfy characteristic. I think if you are currently leading in the Lynch vote and you're being very passive then you've already given up your fate that you're going to lose. It's not like they are dead to rights and someone knows their identity. generally speaking a wolf who knows they can argue their way out of the lynch is going to argue their way out of it. Doesn't feel like MGK is doing that. I have no idea if they're a wolf or not. But I know that there are really s***** wolf if they're not trying to fight off this lynch that they could easily shake off onto someone else. On the other hand, a lot of you prevet players seem very passive about being eliminated from the game. That's not my analysis of this game. That's my analysis of every game I play with you guys for the last few years (admittedly not the biggest sample). I said the vote is going down a little too easy. Take that analysis however you so wish. Like I said, some people are saying the fact that he is not being aggressive is the concerning thing. I'm saying the fact that he's not being aggressive actually reassures me.

And I told you I had a suspicion about you yesterday. Why are you surprised about this today? You only have two votes. Don't get so worked up about it. You might actually make people notice that wolf fur you got on your face. 😉

 

[WildZoo]

I think Bread would be a good start. Cyndia would also be an option, I havent seen anything from her that stands out as different from Bioshock. I'd still like to see Alissa's explanation for why she presumably took Z out of her POE, or at least didn't put her vote back there during D1, as he hadn't posted much at the time. I'm reading him village from this push on me, because he's right I've been playing like garbage which sucks to admit.
And if AM gave her thoughts after, I might have missed them cause my brain is kinda fried right now.

I thought you moved alissa into your village reads?

Idk it just makes me uncomfy that while I agree that cyndia and bread would be good places for pressure, it's kinda for the same reasons that you were saying shouldn't be used to pressure you.

 

[finnickthedog]

That I played this game like an addict when I was a medical student and resident. being an attending physician is a whole different bag of worms. Particularly considering my specialty is emergency medicine.

I was laughing to myself yesterday that when I signed up for this I had two shifts in 10 days. When the game actually started I was about to start a 5-day run of shifts.

Well sure, that definitely makes sense as an explanation for why you would miss things. But Cray suggested that she thought the types of things a person might miss could change depending on their affiliation and I was interested in more thoughts on that. But she doesn't seem to know quite how to apply that to this situation anyways.

I feel like she has talked about how to play WW more than she's wolfhunted or contributed to gamesolving. We discussed whether or not people should include village reads, and had differing opinions on it. Then, she explained why she was lurking when she got called out on it. I don't think that is AI, but a chunk of her posts mentioned that instead of focusing on playing the game. She also has spent the past two days tunneling on Alissa without any other people mentioned as suspicious to her.

This gets my goat. Seriously. Do not repeatedly argue with me (and by this I do not mean you directly) about my play style and then criticize me for having a lot of posts that were a response to that. I'd be happy to not spend so much time defending the way I play. But if people are going to argue with me about it... it's not reasonable to expect me not to respond.

As to the rest of this, I'm really glad the rest of you have crystal balls and are utterly confident in your reads after a single day of play... I'm not.

Though my thoughts have been brief I'm pretty sure I've touched on DocE, AM, MsP, samac, and April before she died. No one has responded or asked for elaboration.

The main reason I've mentioned alissa multiple times is because she disappeared. Do you disagree with my reasoning for being suspicious of her in the first place? If so, let's talk about that rather than just complaining that I'm tunnelling.

I also gave some thoughts on samac's theory. No response to that either.

I've engaged with several people today asking questions and investigating how I feel about certain people. I really resent being told that I'm not playing the game.

 

[finnickthedog]

POE for me consists of cyndia, Capri, bread, finn, stagg (need more here), sporty (need more here), barks (solidly neutral), dubz (solidly neutral)

Cool, but this is just a list of people. What's your reasoning?

 

[capri1722]

When was AM fishing?

Comparing the below two quotes, I feel like if you're gonna call the first one fishing then there's no reason the second one shouldn't also be fishing. It's less of a "actually fishing" and more of a "hypocritical" thing, I guess?

Am I the only one with a theory as to why this happened

What's your theory?

 

[alissa14]

I also would be down with a cyndia or bread vote if people wanted to move there. Seriously thinking the MKG vote is gonna be a misyeet

 

[Animal Midwife]

Yeet capri

I could be wrong but I feel like mkg is gonna be a misyeet

Do you feel capri more strongly than the other people in your POE already on the board?

 

[Crayola227]

This is my current thinking on that kill as well

For completeness sake as well, sometimes a wolf learns by PM that a PM partner doesn't trust them or a has a good read on a wolf partner. That can get them NK'd too.

PMs are dangerous, ppl. You get yourselves killed based on stuff said in PM and the rest of us can't help avenge you.

I understand samac wanting to shut down a theory TME's kill was because she was PM'ing samac, but no matter samac's Af it needs to be based on good reasoning and not just handwaving wolf reasons.

 

[DocEspana]

Well sure, that definitely makes sense as an explanation for why you would miss things. But Cray suggested that she thought the types of things a person might miss could change depending on their affiliation and I was interested in more thoughts on that. But she doesn't seem to know quite how to apply that to this situation anyways.


This gets my goat. Seriously. Do not repeatedly argue with me (and by this I do not mean you directly) about my play style and then criticize me for having a lot of posts that were a response to that. I'd be happy to not spend so much time defending the way I play. But if people are going to argue with me about it... it's not reasonable to expect me not to respond.

As to the rest of this, I'm really glad the rest of you have crystal balls and are utterly confident in your reads after a single day of play... I'm not.

Though my thoughts have been brief I'm pretty sure I've touched on DocE, AM, MsP, samac, and April before she died. No one has responded or asked for elaboration.

The main reason I've mentioned alissa multiple times is because she disappeared. Do you disagree with my reasoning for being suspicious of her in the first place? If so, let's talk about that rather than just complaining that I'm tunnelling.

I also gave some thoughts on samac's theory. No response to that either.

I've engaged with several people today asking questions and investigating how I feel about certain people. I really resent being told that I'm not playing the game.

I mean, I don't know what someone who consistently misses messages from the mod means. I told you that the one about royalty not being allowed to vote was not an accident. I thought that would be strategically useful for a conversation that I did end up having exactly the way I hoped it would go, but it was less impactful than I hoped because of things I didn't plan for out of my control.

I don't think I misread the one about PMs. Even going back and checking the messages, it was just me not being used to pre vet rules.

If you have an interpretation as to what not Reading two other messages from the mod means, feel free to let me know.

 

[finnickthedog]

I mean, I don't know what someone who consistently misses messages from the mod means. I told you that the one about royalty not being allowed to vote was not an accident. I thought that would be strategically useful for a conversation that I did end up having, but was less impactful than I thought it was going to be.

I was just interested in Cray's thoughts since she was the one who brought it up. As I said, I don't think you're playing dumb because I don't think that's your style and so therefore you must be genuinely missing things. In general, I'm more inclined to give that a village lean, but Cray seemed to have a more nuanced take on it.

 

[mkg323]

Nowhere have I ever said "post your reads on the whole roster" during D1. So untwist your panties and instead of being bitter that I'm being village read, show me and others why we should village read you.

I do like your Bread vote, for the record, but whining about untrue or irrelevant things does nothing to alter my read on you.

You wanted me to give reads on single-vote wagons yesterday. pretty much half the roster was on the board with a vote yesterday and you didnt like that I only gave reads on the ones with multiple votes. So dont get mad that I dont give more reads and then claim thats not what you asked for or wanted.

 

[Crayola227]

What does vote for lunches mean?

People use lunch instead of the word lynch. Autocorrect was the original origin of the joke for many. I am trying to get away from the word lynch out of respect for others' feelings although I don't share them.

 

[alissa14]

Cool, but this is just a list of people. What's your reasoning?

Well I don’t think I’m good at reading barks or dubz so I have them in my neutrals. I feel like a lot of cyndia and capri’s posts have been fluff and I just feel like I don’t know what their thoughts are because Capri especially just seems to comment on other people’s posts. Sporty and stagg haven’t posted enough to give a fair assessment of them. Bread hasn’t been on and only has said he’s catching up. And for you Finn, I felt like you voting me for asking if people had questions for me was a bit of a stretch, but it could be a difference in our play styles

 

[finnickthedog]

PMs are dangerous, ppl

You're speaking to my heart.

 

[mkg323]

I thought you moved alissa into your village reads?

Idk it just makes me uncomfy that while I agree that cyndia and bread would be good places for pressure, it's kinda for the same reasons that you were saying shouldn't be used to pressure you.

I was asking a follow up question from my ISO

 

[WildZoo]

Ok but now I am having deja vu about DocE playing dumb in one game a long time ago and it's going to really really bother me that I can't remember what game it was or if my brain is just making it up. But it feels real.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

What's crazy is that number is a lot higher than what it subjectively feels like. Which means she's posted but it hasn't made an impression on me, like saying a whole lotta nothing. Visc did that in the one game I read her as wolf despite VCA (and yes cleared her anyway) and in any case, when someone is participating but that's the feeling you get it isn't a good sign.

She sticks out to me b/c made the post about WW terms. Which I appreciate! But it is one post that is involved and adds nothing to wolf hunt

 

[alissa14]

Do you feel capri more strongly than the other people in your POE already on the board?

Yes because I feel like she is flying under the radar and I really would like to just see more

 

[PippyPony]

Day Two - Keep Calm and WW On - Vote Tally

AM (0) -
Alissa (1) - finn
Zenge (1) - Cray
Bobloblaw (1) - Ms P
Viscernable (3) - cyndia, capri, sunshine
LIS (1) -
Mayo (0) -
Sunshine (2) - LIS, DocE
DocEspana (1) - Mayo
WZ (0) -
Dina (1) - samac
Finn (2) - genny, alley
Ms P (1) - viscernable
MKG (5) - barks, zenge, Dubz, AM, dina
genny (0) -
Bread (1) - mkg
Capri (1) - alissa

@mkg323 you are in the lead
20/24 players voting
Voting closes in 1.5 hours

 

[Animal Midwife]

You wanted me to give reads on single-vote wagons yesterday. pretty much half the roster was on the board with a vote yesterday and you didnt like that I only gave reads on the ones with multiple votes. So dont get mad that I dont give more reads and then claim thats not what you asked for or wanted.

Yes. On D2. Because you were talking about wagonomics. And it's incomplete to focus on only the top wagons.

 

[finnickthedog]

Well I don’t think I’m good at reading barks or dubz so I have them in my neutrals. I feel like a lot of cyndia and capri’s posts have been fluff and I just feel like I don’t know what their thoughts are because Capri especially just seems to comment on other people’s posts. Sporty and stagg haven’t posted enough to give a fair assessment of them. Bread hasn’t been on and only has said he’s catching up. And for you Finn, I felt like you voting me for asking if people had questions for me was a bit of a stretch, but it could be a difference in our play styles

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this sounds to me like for the most part it's not that these people have done anything particularly wolfy to point to, you just don't like their levels of contribution?

Which if fair enough if that's the way you want to assess it, I just personally don't find it convincing.

 

[alissa14]

On a completely different note, my reaction score surpassed my message count a few weeks ago and I partially attribute this to cray reacting to my posts 😆 So thanks cray!!!

 

[alissa14]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this sounds to me like for the most part it's not that these people have done anything particularly wolfy to point to, you just don't like their levels of contribution?

Which if fair enough if that's the way you want to assess it, I just personally don't find it convincing.

Capri voting me on Monday seemed wolfy to me because they were other candidates on the board, she didn’t give much reasoning even though there was plenty of content to try to get better reads from, and my vote wasn’t going anywhere.

 

[finnickthedog]

Ok but now I am having deja vu about DocE playing dumb in one game a long time ago and it's going to really really bother me that I can't remember what game it was or if my brain is just making it up. But it feels real.

Well this would concern me because I was like 99% sure that DocE was not the type to play dumb and now you have me second guessing.

 

[WildZoo]

Well this would concern me because I was like 99% sure that DocE was not the type to play dumb and now you have me second guessing.

Sorry, I will try to figure out what game it was. For now you can assume that I'm having a stroke or something, but I put it out there in case anyone else who played with him a while back remembered it too.

 

[Crayola227]

I mean, I don't know what someone who consistently misses messages from the mod means. I told you that the one about royalty not being allowed to vote was not an accident. I thought that would be strategically useful for a conversation that I did end up having exactly the way I hoped it would go, but it was less impactful than I hoped because of things I didn't plan for out of my control.

I don't think I misread the one about PMs. Even going back and checking the messages, it was just me not being used to pre vet rules.

If you have an interpretation as to what not Reading two other messages from the mod means, feel free to let me know.

The truth is the things you're missing almost makes me want to lean you village, because I could more easily see you being more an absent minded villager than wolf. But village reading you for anything that isn't sharp play catching wolves makes me feel gross.

 

[Crayola227]

Ok but now I am having deja vu about DocE playing dumb in one game a long time ago and it's going to really really bother me that I can't remember what game it was or if my brain is just making it up. But it feels real.

I wouldn't put it past him. He's like the last player I would ever want to himboclear

 

[samac]

The way you are acting like he was trying to confuse you on purpose.....

Also noob wolf kill choices (although you had AM with you) of another noob N1 in another game impresses me not in the slightest for dismissing the TME kill as strategy. In fact I think it's fair to say in NKA (night kill analysis) assume the wolves had a reason for kill besides confusion like 90% of the time at least. Confusion kills happen but safer bet don't assume that.

When PRs flip their PM partners abso-tuta-fruta-lutely should be scrutinized for lycanthropy.

Just so you know I didn’t make the TE kill in Ggoats. I was working. It was all Dina and AM.

but I will agree, looking at PM partners is a good start. And I was laying out that I think I’m it.

You’re still in my neutrals and I don’t really follow his train of thought here, but I do find it interesting that you’re the one person who would meet his criteria for suspicion on Enigma’s death, and are the only one saying Enigma must have been random.

... which brings me to how the heck did Doc E go from it must be a PM partner of enigma (Samac), to rambling about defending Visc despite not even thinking she’s NOT a wolf necessarily, to defending MKG, to reaching a conclusion of a naked vote on me?!

I don’t like how you’re trying to twist things here. I did not say Enigma must have been random. That’s a twist of words. I just noted sometimes wolves kill for confusion. I think I also noted to pay attention to her on thread interactions if you think there’s something to find that might lead to her cause of death.

For completeness sake as well, sometimes a wolf learns by PM that a PM partner doesn't trust them or a has a good read on a wolf partner. That can get them NK'd too.

PMs are dangerous, ppl. You get yourselves killed based on stuff said in PM and the rest of us can't help avenge you.

I understand samac wanting to shut down a theory TME's kill was because she was PM'ing samac, but no matter samac's Af it needs to be based on good reasoning and not just handwaving wolf reasons.

Mmmm, I can see the reasoning and this is definitely something I would expect. However, if this was the case, I would also expect that a wolf with a "Henry VIII" role would have a cover role, like "Queen Elizabeth I."

In other words, I don't think this is something worth pursuing.

I have a hard time believing TE's NK was based on role revealing in PM, just because it's not something that I think wolves would find important to get rid of. She wasn't being heavily village read either. I also say this because we NK'd her N1 in ggoats and while it wasn't RNG we didn't really have a solid reason for it.

It's possible it wasn't a wolfy kill either considering how many deaths there were.

This is why NK analysis is difficult

Still a lot to catch up on, but just to get something out there

Execute SAR

For reasons I need to look into that AM will hate.


Also, @samac , did you have to break the DocE v April tie?

 

[sunshinefl]

I didn't say it NEEDED to be a p.m. partner of enigma. I only said we should look into that. Enigma has the sort of role that might give a half disclosure to a p.m. partner and would get themselves smoked by that p.m. partner if they happen to be a wolf. I'm just trying to read the tea leaves. I openly said right up from the beginning that it was a very subjective suspicion, that killing off a good role could theoretically happen by accident, and that I wanted more information. The vote was just a way to put pressure on people. I was requesting information on multiple different people at the same time.

You left out some of my other votes today. I voted a lot today.

I like visc. I'm not going to go out there and tell people that there's no way they are a wolf. I'm only saying that I don't like to vote against them and people should be aware that if there is a possibility they are going to come in first, I'm going to vote whatever it takes to protect them. So make sure if you want them lynched that they are up by two votes. But I can also admit they haven't been acting perfectly. But, they came to my rescue and I see no reason why the Lynch vote against them is particularly convincing. So I'm going to go out there and defend them.

I tried to lynch MKG yesterday. I strongly considered opening my day with voting to Lynch MKG again. But my criticism yesterday was of their approach. I thought it was too aggressive. I thought they had a bad read and they were being very aggressive about it. If you noticed, people are now criticizing them for not being aggressive enough. Some people think that's a wolfy characteristic. I think if you are currently leading in the Lynch vote and you're being very passive then you've already given up your fate that you're going to lose. It's not like they are dead to rights and someone knows their identity. generally speaking a wolf who knows they can argue their way out of the lynch is going to argue their way out of it. Doesn't feel like MGK is doing that. I have no idea if they're a wolf or not. But I know that there are really s***** wolf if they're not trying to fight off this lynch that they could easily shake off onto someone else. On the other hand, a lot of you prevet players seem very passive about being eliminated from the game. That's not my analysis of this game. That's my analysis of every game I play with you guys for the last few years (admittedly not the biggest sample). I said the vote is going down a little too easy. Take that analysis however you so wish. Like I said, some people are saying the fact that he is not being aggressive is the concerning thing. I'm saying the fact that he's not being aggressive actually reassures me.

And I told you I had a suspicion about you yesterday. Why are you surprised about this today? You only have two votes. Don't get so worked up about it. You might actually make people notice that wolf fur you got on your face. 😉

Oh, you’ll know when I’m worked up 😉

 

[SportPonies]

OH SO ITS NOT JUST A THIEF.
Is it a wolf JOAT?

but HA!
Thanks Genny.

Back on my computer and I guess I multiquoted this last night.
This post made me... hmmm.
Like a wolf oversharing something. Or poor interpretation. I don't really see a thread reason to jump to a JOAT conclusion, so this skeeves me out a lot

 

[WildZoo]

I wouldn't put it past him. He's like the last player I would ever want to himboclear

Can I say I love this terminology

 

[samac]

Back on my computer and I guess I multiquoted this last night.
This post made me... hmmm.
Like a wolf oversharing something. Or poor interpretation. I don't really see a thread reason to jump to a JOAT conclusion, so this skeeves me out a lot

Isnt someone who gets multiple different actions a JOAT?
first night he stole a teapot.
second night he put someone in jail.

 

[alissa14]

I wouldn't put it past him. He's like the last player I would ever want to himboclear

I’m confused

 

[sunshinefl]

Speaking of himbo clears, should we clear Stagg for not even knowing SAR was dead?

...and back to ACLS class

 

[SportPonies]

I'd like to see more from alissa. I do still think popping onto the thread to ask if people had questions for her and the subsequent follow up was strange. No one other than alissa herself seemed to jump in and say "oh yeah, alissa does this all the time".

Regarding samac's theory... I will say that after some google I do think my role fits well in the North. That said, I recall DocE stating his role didn't best fit with his location and I also recall at least a few people who were very skeptical about the idea of locations being meaningful and I'm inclined to assume that at least some of those people don't fit perfectly into their starting locations either or I'd expect them to be more open to the theory.

If samac is correct then AM has to be a wolf. I've never been able to read her and think she acts relatively the same no matter what role she's playing so it wouldn't surprise me.

But I would be surprised if a mod set up a game in which she gave strong hints about what role performed which action and put all the roles in their correct starting location. That strikes me as an unusual set up.

Is there a reason MsP is still voting for Bobloblaw considering how weak her "I caught a wolf" ended up being?

I have several people I am feeling good about right now.



45 pages of posts is still a cycle and half. The fact that you guys dragged this out into 36 hours makes me want to participate less (because I'm mentally exhausted) not more. I was actually pretty active--for me--over the last cycle. I took yesterday off because of the fatique. I made it clear that I intended to contribute today.

And the high post volume makes everything more difficult for me to assess. Feels a little like a vet school lecture where they're just hitting me with a firehouse of information and then I have to determine which parts are important. Except I only get like a day to do it.

Also, this reasoning has been a common theme in almost every game that I've played so you can't just say it's about the 45 pages.



And I think it's worse, not better. Just because you prefer it, doesn't mean I'm going to feel the same way about it.

I didn't complain about the fact that you weren't village reading me. If you want my honest opinion, I think you should be neutral reading me. I complained about the fact that you are wolf reading me again for the same exact reasons that people always wolf read me.

I mean if you want to talk about not contributing AMs typical play style is to aggressively question everyone else but be evasive and refuse to explain herself. I don't feel she's contributed anything of value in the last cycle and a half. But we all just go "oh, typical AM, NAI".

Should I try that strategy instead? Will that finally fix this broken record?


I like this theme, so I'd really like to keep playing but I'm taking a break. Constantly being accosted for my play style isn't fun.

Village lean on this post.

Oh god I'm so sorry. I'm actually not sure where I have you right now.

I am trying so, so hard to not fall into my Dubz tunnel, but this post pinged me as a strange tone compared to what I'm used to so I'm just noting it. Maybe because it's not snarky, which I know is what I asked for 😛 Don't mind me having a crisis over this.

 

[WildZoo]

Back on my computer and I guess I multiquoted this last night.
This post made me... hmmm.
Like a wolf oversharing something. Or poor interpretation. I don't really see a thread reason to jump to a JOAT conclusion, so this skeeves me out a lot

Genny gave a very similar description for the person that jailed her as SAR gave for the person that stole from her. So I don't think it's an unreasonable thought, if genny is telling the truth. Could be 3p as well though.