Liberty University (LUCOM) Discussion Thread 2014 - 2015

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Hey everyone,

I am interviewing this coming Monday (Feb 2). Does anybody have advice they can offer? What kinds of questions do they ask, etc.? Any help is greatly appreciated!!
 
Funkytown said:
Hey everyone,

I am interviewing this coming Monday (Feb 2). Does anybody have advice they can offer? What kinds of questions do they ask, etc.? Any help is greatly appreciated!!
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Basically they just want to get to know you better and see if you're a good fit for the school. Be able to say why you want to go to LUCOM, why osteopathic medicine, etc. If you're asked to "tell me about yourself," be ready with an answer. Know your application inside and out, and be able to elaborate on your activities.

I felt that the interview day was well-organized, and the facilities are really impressive (especially the anatomy lab: you can barely smell any formaldehyde!).

PM me if you want more advice or info about the day. Good luck!
 
RedRose12 said:
Just got the call from Dr. Martin. I was accepted!! Truly grateful to LUCOM for taking a chance on me.

Hoping for the best for everyone else who is waiting to hear.
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Wow you were called tonight? What day did you interview on? Congratulations!
 
Blooms in Adversity said:
Congratulations!!!! I interview on Tuesday. Any advice?
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You're going to get some hard situational questions. I recommend looking at the interview feedback page and getting ready for them.
They may have a different point of view than you have. This is ok. Don't feel that you have to make your answers fit what you think you want. Answer the way you honestly feel. If they challenge you, say that you will think about their point of view, but don't just necessarily switch to their viewpoint.

My answers were not exactly what the interviewer was looking for, but I stuck to my guns and explained my thought process. He offered me a different perspective on them. I said I would have to think about that for a while. Personal reflection is never a bad thing.

Ultimately, I got in. But no matter what, be YOU. Don't be anyone that you think they want you to be. You will sound fake, and that will not help you at all.
 
TR4N23MED said:
So I checked my application status on mylu and it say "PV Pending Interview"...
Any idea what this means?

Edit: Nvm, Barry emailed me for an interview invite!!!
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How/where specifically did you check your status on the mylucom site? I don't see anywhere to do that..
 
jamieneutron said:
How/where specifically did you check your status on the mylucom site? I don't see anywhere to do that..
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Go to: mylu.com (can only access once you receive secondary)
Go to "asist" and then "application status"
Newyorker1335 said:
can anyone comment on what the average GPA and MCAT are looking like for here? I got sent a secondary and they said I would hear back within 7-10 business days which would have been Friday. 3.19cGPA/ 3.10sGPA/ 27 (10/7/10) & 28 (8/10/10) MCAT), lots of extra curricular, shadowing, clinical and bench research. Good LORs.
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I got an email response for an interview about a week after my secondary submission.
 
JSensei said:
You're going to get some hard situational questions. I recommend looking at the interview feedback page and getting ready for them.
They may have a different point of view than you have. This is ok. Don't feel that you have to make your answers fit what you think you want. Answer the way you honestly feel. If they challenge you, say that you will think about their point of view, but don't just necessarily switch to their viewpoint.

My answers were not exactly what the interviewer was looking for, but I stuck to my guns and explained my thought process. He offered me a different perspective on them. I said I would have to think about that for a while. Personal reflection is never a bad thing.

Ultimately, I got in. But no matter what, be YOU. Don't be anyone that you think they want you to be. You will sound fake, and that will not help you at all.
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On the contrary, I did not have any hard situational questions in my interview. It was conversational and they asked questions about my background. I was also the last interview of the morning, and I think the interviewers were ready to be finished 🙂
 
RunninGirl3 said:
On the contrary, I did not have any hard situational questions in my interview. It was conversational and they asked questions about my background. I was also the last interview of the morning, and I think the interviewers were ready to be finished 🙂
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Really? You didn't get a conversational one and a situational one? Lucky.
 
I interviewed last week and came up with a few questions after I left the area. Any first year students able to answer??
  • Are online textbooks provided for students for free (cost included in tuition)?
  • What are the options for 3rd year rotations, can students choose where they do their clerkship?
  • How does the spiral curriculum work/do you feel you are learning more efficiently with this specialized curriculum?
 
aspr2inspr said:
I interviewed last week and came up with a few questions after I left the area. Any first year students able to answer??
  • Are online textbooks provided for students for free (cost included in tuition)?
  • What are the options for 3rd year rotations, can students choose where they do their clerkship?
  • How does the spiral curriculum work/do you feel you are learning more efficiently with this specialized curriculum?
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Generally, no online books are available for free. You can opt to buy your books through kindle if you prefer. Otherwise, there are textbooks you can check out in the library. 3rd year rotations: About half of us will stay in lynchburg (married, kids - since its harder to uproot your family again) and the other half will go to a few other places that are just over an hour from here. You can read more here: http://www.liberty.edu/lucom/index.cfm?PID=28252

Spiral curriculum is great. We are able to spread out our anatomy into systems, and they also add in a little pharmacology, etc so that when we take pharm next year, we will already have some exposure. Its actually really nice how they tie OMM into the system we are working on. They also tie in PCM (patient centered medicine) into the systems, so our learning is full circle, clinical and all, with each system we go through.
 
Though it pained me to do so, I just gave up my seat to this school. I was accepted into another school which I think fits me a bit better. It was a hard decision. I really like both schools, but I hope my seat goes to someone that will love this school the way I would have if I had gone.

I believe that LUCOM will be successful, and I hope it is. Good luck to all in this thread and to all that go to this school.
 
JSensei said:
Though it pained me to do so, I just gave up my seat to this school. I was accepted into another school which I think fits me a bit better. It was a hard decision. I really like both schools, but I hope my seat goes to someone that will love this school the way I would have if I had gone.

I believe that LUCOM will be successful, and I hope it is. Good luck to all in this thread and to all that go to this school.
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Where you going?
 
JSensei said:
Unless I get USF or UCF (I'm not holding my breath), I am sending in my deposit for LMU-DCOM tomorrow. I think that school fit me better, but both schools seemed really great.
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Yeah I interview at lmu a week after liberty and I think I will go there if I get in. I have a couple other interviews but prob won't go if I get the lmu acceptance. I'm from Florida to. But I didn't submit secondaries to the MD schools. Good luck!
 
JSensei said:
Unless I get USF or UCF (I'm not holding my breath), I am sending in my deposit for LMU-DCOM tomorrow. I think that school fit me better, but both schools seemed really great.
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FutureDoc_OC said:
Yeah I interview at lmu a week after liberty and I think I will go there if I get in. I have a couple other interviews but prob won't go if I get the lmu acceptance. I'm from Florida to. But I didn't submit secondaries to the MD schools. Good luck!
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Interesting. I have an interview at Liberty and LMU-DCOM on the same week (my only interviews for the cycle). Any reasons specifically for LMU-DCOM over LIberty?
 
TR4N23MED said:
Interesting. I have an interview at Liberty and LMU-DCOM on the same week (my only interviews for the cycle). Any reasons specifically for LMU-DCOM over LIberty?
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For me I like there curriculum and they are more established school. But idk, when I interview I could change my mind.
 
TR4N23MED said:
Interesting. I have an interview at Liberty and LMU-DCOM on the same week (my only interviews for the cycle). Any reasons specifically for LMU-DCOM over LIberty?
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It was a really tough decision. Mostly, I just felt that the school as a whole was a better fit. LMU has a large percentage of career changers, so I will not be alone. Other than that, both schools are excellent, and it really was hard to pick.
 
TurkTurkleton92 said:
Yeah, I'm really impressed with everything. These hills are killing me, though! I've never had my ears pop while driving. I'm from Miami. Everything there is FLAT. I feel like I'm on a roller coaster with every turn I take.
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I experienced the same thing!
 
Hey did anyone have Dr. Morrison or Dr. Patterson??
 
radkat101 said:
If this is true, it would prove that people at this school are truly out of their minds if they are prioritizing faith, or even service over potential to succeed. Not only do better stats improve the school's reputation but they also indicate an applicant's ability to do well in school and eventually the boards. I hope/assume this isn't the case, but if it is, it's probably for the better because it means this school won't be around for very long.
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Finally getting around to reading all of LUCOM's thread this year. Seriously, why are you upset over their - service over potential to succeed paradigm? I believe this shows their commitment to longevity. They are concerned about their legacy and the type of doctors they will produce.

The following are intelligent physicians during the same time frame, but with different impacts on humanity.

Ishii, Mengele, Clauberg, Adams VERSUS Schweitzer, Luria, Brand, Lane-Claypon

Sorry, I couldn't help this response. It is the history major in me. If you are unfamiliar with these names it would be worth your time as a future physician to read their biographies.
 
Blooms in Adversity said:
Finally getting around to reading all of LUCOM's thread this year. Seriously, why are you upset over their - service over potential to succeed paradigm? I believe this shows their commitment to longevity. They are concerned about their legacy and the type of doctors they will produce.

The following are intelligent physicians during the same time frame, but with different impacts on humanity.

Ishii, Mengele, Clauberg, Adams VERSUS Schweitzer, Luria, Brand, Lane-Claypon

Sorry, I couldn't help this response. It is the history major in me. If you are unfamiliar with these names it would be worth your time as a future physician to read their biographies.
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I will be happy when people realize that
A) stats are not the only thing that matters
B) the MCAT truly isn't the end-all, be-all of exams.

There is SO much more to being a physician than ONE test that has nothing to do with clinical application. But it's REALLY great for puffing up egos.

Even if you assume that book knowledge is THE most important thing to being a good doctor, the MCAT doesn't even test the book knowledge that will ultimately be useful in practice.

Where I come from, we have a name for those doctors with zero personal skills but lots of book knowledge. We call them "radiologists."

When I went to pharmacy (different program, I know) the girl that ended up as our valedictorian was AMAZING at memorizing slides. She could stomp all over any exam, so long as there was a slide she could photographically memorize. If it wasn't on a slide, she had no real working knowledge of it. Granted, if it WAS on a slide, she was a walking encyclopedia, but if you wanted her to connect threads from a different class or different lecture, she couldn't do it very well.

All the book knowledge in the world. I wouldn't have her as my pharmacist to save my life. (unless my life threatening condition happened to be on one of the slides she memorized...)

I'd take a B student that has a good handle on all the things and great personal skills over a robot every time.
 
EH123 said:
Generally, no online books are available for free. You can opt to buy your books through kindle if you prefer. Otherwise, there are textbooks you can check out in the library. 3rd year rotations: About half of us will stay in lynchburg (married, kids - since its harder to uproot your family again) and the other half will go to a few other places that are just over an hour from here. You can read more here: http://www.liberty.edu/lucom/index.cfm?PID=28252

Spiral curriculum is great. We are able to spread out our anatomy into systems, and they also add in a little pharmacology, etc so that when we take pharm next year, we will already have some exposure. Its actually really nice how they tie OMM into the system we are working on. They also tie in PCM (patient centered medicine) into the systems, so our learning is full circle, clinical and all, with each system we go through.
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Thanks 🙂
 
EH123 said:
Generally, no online books are available for free. You can opt to buy your books through kindle if you prefer. Otherwise, there are textbooks you can check out in the library. 3rd year rotations: About half of us will stay in lynchburg (married, kids - since its harder to uproot your family again) and the other half will go to a few other places that are just over an hour from here. You can read more here: http://www.liberty.edu/lucom/index.cfm?PID=28252

Spiral curriculum is great. We are able to spread out our anatomy into systems, and they also add in a little pharmacology, etc so that when we take pharm next year, we will already have some exposure. Its actually really nice how they tie OMM into the system we are working on. They also tie in PCM (patient centered medicine) into the systems, so our learning is full circle, clinical and all, with each system we go through.
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I'm not aware of any school that gives you free online textbooks.

But here's a question for you. Have you ever tried using google with the following keywords? Name of Textbook + edition number (usually just a number) + Pdf + free +/- torrent?

I would never try using such a google search, but one wonders what you might dig up. So I CLEARLY can't advocate using such a search, but I also can't stop a person if they were to try it. Why, I bet, with a bit of hustle, you could probably find working, text-searchable PDFs of pretty much every book on your list (along with the occasional .chm file for some reason). And then you could have those digital versions on your laptop and/or iPad without paying a red cent to the publishers.
 
JSensei said:
I'm not aware of any school that gives you free online textbooks.

But here's a question for you. Have you ever tried using google with the following keywords? Name of Textbook + edition number (usually just a number) + Pdf + free +/- torrent?

I would never try using such a google search, but one wonders what you might dig up. So I CLEARLY can't advocate using such a search, but I also can't stop a person if they were to try it. Why, I bet, with a bit of hustle, you could probably find working, text-searchable PDFs of pretty much every book on your list (along with the occasional .chm file for some reason). And then you could have those digital versions on your laptop and/or iPad without paying a red cent to the publishers.
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Some do... We have all of our textbooks available online at MSU-COM. 🙂

lol. Yeah, torrents can be hit-or-miss, but it seems pretty difficult to get newer editions of some medical textbooks. I haven't really tried, but I'd be surprised (impressed?) if you could get all your books that way!
 
johnamo said:
Some do... We have all of our textbooks available online at MSU-COM. 🙂

lol. Yeah, torrents can be hit-or-miss, but it seems pretty difficult to get newer editions of some medical textbooks. I haven't really tried, but I'd be surprised (impressed?) if you could get all your books that way!
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Well, as I said, CLEARLY, I have never tried. But if I HAD tried, my success rate would probably be pretty high. Nearly every book, every time. Newest edition. And a few books that aren't for class but I would have just wanted like Mandell's Principles Infectious Disease.

Supposing I had actually pirated books, I would probably view it as a challenge and do my best with my google-fu to find them. But I'm a good boy. I'd never do that.
 
Does "provisional status" mean that my application is still under review? I was complete in december and I still haven't heard anything...
 
JSensei said:
I'm not aware of any school that gives you free online textbooks.

But here's a question for you. Have you ever tried using google with the following keywords? Name of Textbook + edition number (usually just a number) + Pdf + free +/- torrent?

I would never try using such a google search, but one wonders what you might dig up. So I CLEARLY can't advocate using such a search, but I also can't stop a person if they were to try it. Why, I bet, with a bit of hustle, you could probably find working, text-searchable PDFs of pretty much every book on your list (along with the occasional .chm file for some reason). And then you could have those digital versions on your laptop and/or iPad without paying a red cent to the publishers.
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........WHOA.
Mind =:boom:
 
Wow! I just got done with the interview. I was blown away! I really think I will go here if they accept me! Hope they do!
 
FutureDoc_OC said:
Wow! I just got done with the interview. I was blown away! I really think I will go here if they accept me! Hope they do!
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I can't see a school beating this school anymore. I really thought I would go somewhere else. But I interviewed here first, and I really feel I should attend here! Anyone else have the same experience?
 
I felt the same way. Something about the school left me feeling like it was meant to be! I put down my deposit when I was able to come up with the money and stopped my secondaries ( I was accepted in August).

I'm glad you also had a great experience!
 
kcm37 said:
I felt the same way. Something about the school left me feeling like it was meant to be! I put down my deposit when I was able to come up with the money and stopped my secondaries ( I was accepted in August).

I'm glad you also had a great experience!
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Yeah, I am glad I interviewed here first. I won't go on any other if I get in. Use that money for the deposit ! Hope we are in the same class.
 
FutureDoc_OC said:
I can't see a school beating this school anymore. I really thought I would go somewhere else. But I interviewed here first, and I really feel I should attend here! Anyone else have the same experience?
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I did. I was definately blown away when I left. I really thought this school was special. I am trying not to get too attached because I am so tired of being let down when a program rejects /waitlists me.

I will say this tho, student doctor has this place all wrong. Not only is their curriculum extremely well thought out, and they have better rotations than many other DO schools, but how they pick their students, THAT is what will make this school special. There are gonna be some awesome folks who some will get the pleasure of going to school with. There are side benefits to having a service oriented school as well, with a student body like they have I wouldnt even worry about 'gunners' or any chippy nonsense that other schools have with "competative" students.

The service focus is awesome, and combined with how they treat their students, alot of foolish people will miss out on what is a great school. This place is gonna graduate some movers and shakers someday, and it wont surprise me one bit.
 
FutureDoc_OC said:
I can't see a school beating this school anymore. I really thought I would go somewhere else. But I interviewed here first, and I really feel I should attend here! Anyone else have the same experience?
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This school has that special umph. I don't even know how to describe it, it's like magical. I totally understand what you are saying. I still feel like going back and enjoying interview day once again lol
 
I know how you feel. It broke my heart to pick another school. LMU also had a certain bit of magic to it. But you can't go wrong with LUCOM. It was absolutely fantastic.
 
DoctorSynthesis said:
I was just pointing out that the mean is likely lower then 24. If it was higher you can bet your ass they would show that.
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Just a followup, the mean was 24.5, I remember it from the interveiw presentation. Average GPA was in 3.4's
 
DoctorSynthesis said:
I suspect they doctored the numbers. Probably accepted stats not matriculated.
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I don't see these people as the lying type. They really do make you see the potential and can understand why they did so well with their first class. Ps why you do care? Are you coming to this school or are you just hating for no reason?
 
FutureDoc_OC said:
I don't see these people as the lying type. They really do make you see the potential and can understand why they did so well with their first class. Ps why you do care? Are you coming to this school or are you just hating for no reason?
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People are tagging me and I'm merely replying and giving my input. I don't see them as so honest when they took back acceptances last year. But please guys stop taging me and stay on topic here!
 
DoctorSynthesis said:
People are tagging me and I'm merely replying and giving my input. I don't see them as so honest when they took back acceptances last year. But please guys stop taging me and stay on topic here!
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If that happen to you I'm sorry. But I know overbooked because they felt from previous schools that more would turn down acceptances. Sometimes that happens and I'm sure liberty is not the first. Sure if that happen they were offered into the next class.
 
I'm feeling like LUCOM doesn't like me. Nobody from there has emailed or called me back in months. I am on the wait list, and I just wanted to make sure they received my transcripts from this past semester. I recently learned via the Liberty portal that they received the transcripts. I earned a 4.0 in my graduate program, taking Physiology, Histology, and Biochemistry. Thought that might give me a shove in. I heard they don't do an ordered wait list - like everybody is in a pool, or?? Idk. Can somebody verify?
 
AvrgPreMedKid said:
I'm feeling like LUCOM doesn't like me. Nobody from there has emailed or called me back in months. I am on the wait list, and I just wanted to make sure they received my transcripts from this past semester. I recently learned via the Liberty portal that they received the transcripts. I earned a 4.0 in my graduate program, taking Physiology, Histology, and Biochemistry. Thought that might give me a shove in. I heard they don't do an ordered wait list - like everybody is in a pool, or?? Idk. Can somebody verify?
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You should email Barry Ousley to check on the status of your application. You could always email with an update letting them know that you sent in the transcripts and how well you did last semester. But I believe you are correct that there isn't a "list" more of a pool
 
DoctorSynthesis said:
I suspect they doctored the numbers. Probably accepted stats not matriculated.
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Why would that matter? If people that had those higher stats applied, it still means that people with higher stats applied and were accepted. I've looked into the stats of the school I am accepting a position in. They have similar stats to LUCOM. I truly had a difficult time deciding between the two schools.

So does that mean that they'll be graduating inferior physicians? Or perhaps because the average MCAT is lower for osteopaths, perhaps osteopaths are inferior.

Or maybe you're stuck on a 20 year old paper that says that MCAT predicts board scores. Because CLEARLY, that is all there is to being a physician. Scores and nothing else.
 
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