Marian University (MU-COM) Discussion Thread 2013 - 2014

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Submitted on July 31 and everything reads complete this morning!
 
Anyone know when Interview Invitations start to roll out? looking on last years thread Invites didnt go out until mid september. Im assuming thast because the school was new, perhaps they go out earlier this year. Anyone with insight?
 
Just FYI, Marian doesn't accept biochem in place of Organic 2. Unfortunate, because all the other schools I applied to do.
 
Jayb82388 said:
Anyone know when Interview Invitations start to roll out? looking on last years thread Invites didnt go out until mid september. Im assuming thast because the school was new, perhaps they go out earlier this year. Anyone with insight?
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First interviews are mid sept so I'm guessing mid august?
 
FYI, interview screening has started. The first weekend of interviews is September 13 and 14th. For more information, please see the 2013-2014 timeline earlier in this thread.

Applications are screened by date of complete file status. The oldest applications are screened first. Screening of all applications complete on or before August 4th will be completed by August 23rd.

We appreciate your interest in MU-COM and patience with our process.

MU-COM Admissions
 
Thanks for the info! really helps! I was complete Aug 8...just missed the 4th ....darn haha well i feel like that means i will be in the next batch of screenings.
 
Jayb82388 said:
Thanks for the info! really helps! I was complete Aug 8...just missed the 4th ....darn haha well i feel like that means i will be in the next batch of screenings.
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Yeah I missed it too because of an issue with not having an advisor letter. I'm hoping we will hear a week later then the August 4th ppl. :luck:
 
I don't think I'll make the first cut off either.
 
All electronic letters of recommendation downloaded by MU-COM on or before August 7th have been processed. In addition, LORs for re-applicants have also been processed. Paper recommendation letter processing will start next week.

PLEASE check the portal before calling our office. The portal will detail which letters we have and which we do not. If your letters were not checked off, they were not sent to us as you originally thought OR they did not meet our screening criteria. From time to time, we do make a mistake too.

More recommendations will be downloaded this week; those applicants will receive a confirmation from MU-COM.

Thank you,
MU-COM Admissions
 
MU COM said:
FYI, interview screening has started. The first weekend of interviews is September 13 and 14th. For more information, please see the 2013-2014 timeline earlier in this thread.

Applications are screened by date of complete file status. The oldest applications are screened first. Screening of all applications complete on or before August 4th will be completed by August 23rd.

We appreciate your interest in MU-COM and patience with our process.

MU-COM Admissions
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10 days. :O
 
So I just received an email about how I did not complete my secondary. I did not complete my secondary because I do not have a reason for why I want to practice in the area.

What should I do?

Should I just write about why I want to attend MU instead of why I want to practice in the area?

I am from S.FL by the way.
 
maybemed2013 said:
So I just received an email about how I did not complete my secondary. I did not complete my secondary because I do not have a reason for why I want to practice in the area.

What should I do?

Should I just write about why I want to attend MU instead of why I want to practice in the area?

I am from S.FL by the way.
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Write honestly. If you don't have any reasonable reason to practice in Indiana, why are you applying to MU? Their mission statement reflects their desire to create physicians for Indiana.

I don't personally have any family ties to Indiana, but I wrote honestly on why I would like to practice in Indiana. I'm not going to divulge my essay, but Google makes it very easy to research the benefits of practicing in Indiana.
 
Woot.
Finally completed as of today! This was submitted in July 15th
 
For the shadowing experience is all they're asking for

Doctor name - speciality, clinic location and hours?

Not necessarily details and yadda yadda?
 
Looks like you guys should be hearing stuff soon about interviews...Good luck!
 
how is the school so far for those of you who are beginning first term??
 
3bamboo said:
how is the school so far for those of you who are beginning first term??
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Honestly, it has been pretty great so far…we just completed week 1. The way the curriculum is organized seems pretty cool! The facilities are incredible (anatomy lab is incredible!) and from what I've seen with the visiting physician lecturers involvement, there is massive support for this program in Indianapolis. Lots of excitement in the medical community from us being there and lots of people wanting to be involved and see us succeed. The class itself seems to be pretty diverse. I believe they said it was 49% female and 51% male.

They've had a couple IT issues with the new building…like wifi and such being slow from time to time, but have really jumped right on them and have been ironing them out pretty rapidly. Would happen in any brand new high tech facility. A lot of orientation was spent setting up our new iPads, getting acquainted with the portal we will be using, downloading our textbooks, learning how to use the testing software…etc. There is a small learning curve for all of that stuff, but as we all get used to it, it seems like it will all be very nice to have. One cool/unique (at least to me) thing that they mentioned was a potential "faculty swap" with MSU-COM to mix things up when boards review time rolls around…give everyone a fresh perspective on the material. It was just one of the ideas they were tossing around. We also had a virtual panel conference with upperclassmen from MSU--was very cool.

Many interest groups/clubs have already formed and others are in the works. Faculty is bending over backwards to assist students in all aspects so far. The University itself has been more than inclusive of the new MS-1s to it's community. The COM has held a few cool events ie. spouse/significant other type functions already, which is nice! White coat ceremony was amazing and at an awesome venue in Downtown Indy.

*Another point of interest may be that those previously disclosed "stats" for the class of 2017 did not really change when they announced them for the matriculating class. Mcat was 26-27, GPA was 3.5-3.6 is memory recalls correctly.

Edit: just saw that Dr.Meows already posted about some of this^ already…haven't been checking SDN regularly. Anyhow, hope the rest of it answers your question.
 
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Mr Kenobi said:
Honestly, it has been pretty great so far…we just completed week 1. The way the curriculum is organized seems pretty cool! The facilities are incredible (anatomy lab is incredible!) and from what I've seen with the visiting physician lecturers involvement, there is massive support for this program in Indianapolis. Lots of excitement in the medical community from us being there and lots of people wanting to be involved and see us succeed. The class itself seems to be pretty diverse. I believe they said it was 49% female and 51% male.

They've had a couple IT issues with the new building…like wifi and such being slow from time to time, but have really jumped right on them and have been ironing them out pretty rapidly. Would happen in any brand new high tech facility. A lot of orientation was spent setting up our new iPads, getting acquainted with the portal we will be using, downloading our textbooks, learning how to use the testing software…etc. There is a small learning curve for all of that stuff, but as we all get used to it, it seems like it will all be very nice to have. One cool/unique (at least to me) thing that they mentioned was a potential "faculty swap" with MSU-COM to mix things up when boards review time rolls around…give everyone a fresh perspective on the material. It was just one of the ideas they were tossing around. We also had a virtual panel conference with upperclassmen from MSU--was very cool.

Many interest groups/clubs have already formed and others are in the works. Faculty is bending over backwards to assist students in all aspects so far. The University itself has been more than inclusive of the new MS-1s to it's community. The COM has held a few cool events ie. spouse/significant other type functions already, which is nice! White coat ceremony was amazing and at an awesome venue in Downtown Indy.

*Another point of interest may be that those previously disclosed "stats" for the class of 2017 did not really change when they announced them for the matriculating class. Mcat was 26-27, GPA was 3.5-3.6 is memory recalls correctly.

Edit: just saw that Dr.Meows already posted about some of this^ already…haven't been checking SDN regularly. Anyhow, hope the rest of it answers your question.
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Sounds amazing! 🙂
 
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Mr Kenobi said:
Honestly, it has been pretty great so far…we just completed week 1. The way the curriculum is organized seems pretty cool! The facilities are incredible (anatomy lab is incredible!) and from what I've seen with the visiting physician lecturers involvement, there is massive support for this program in Indianapolis. Lots of excitement in the medical community from us being there and lots of people wanting to be involved and see us succeed. The class itself seems to be pretty diverse. I believe they said it was 49% female and 51% male.

They've had a couple IT issues with the new building…like wifi and such being slow from time to time, but have really jumped right on them and have been ironing them out pretty rapidly. Would happen in any brand new high tech facility. A lot of orientation was spent setting up our new iPads, getting acquainted with the portal we will be using, downloading our textbooks, learning how to use the testing software…etc. There is a small learning curve for all of that stuff, but as we all get used to it, it seems like it will all be very nice to have. One cool/unique (at least to me) thing that they mentioned was a potential "faculty swap" with MSU-COM to mix things up when boards review time rolls around…give everyone a fresh perspective on the material. It was just one of the ideas they were tossing around. We also had a virtual panel conference with upperclassmen from MSU--was very cool.

Many interest groups/clubs have already formed and others are in the works. Faculty is bending over backwards to assist students in all aspects so far. The University itself has been more than inclusive of the new MS-1s to it's community. The COM has held a few cool events ie. spouse/significant other type functions already, which is nice! White coat ceremony was amazing and at an awesome venue in Downtown Indy.

*Another point of interest may be that those previously disclosed "stats" for the class of 2017 did not really change when they announced them for the matriculating class. Mcat was 26-27, GPA was 3.5-3.6 is memory recalls correctly.

Edit: just saw that Dr.Meows already posted about some of this^ already…haven't been checking SDN regularly. Anyhow, hope the rest of it answers your question.
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Kenobi, I read an article disclosing that MUcom might have lost some of the funding due to one of the donors companies having some troubles. Has this been mentioned or will it be an issue? It seemed like it was a lot of money and one of the suggested solutions was to extend the time that it will be paid (over 20 years or something instead of ten) but it seems that this would still affect things. Just wondering.
 
jockdoc97 said:
Kenobi, I read an article disclosing that MUcom might have lost some of the funding due to one of the donors companies having some troubles. Has this been mentioned or will it be an issue? It seemed like it was a lot of money and one of the suggested solutions was to extend the time that it will be paid (over 20 years or something instead of ten) but it seems that this would still affect things. Just wondering.
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I think this happened a little while ago…regardless, my understanding of it was along these lines:


The person that the med school building is named after, Micahel A. Evans, pledged a huge ~40-50 mil to the school to help get the building construction underway. Apparently his company (AIT laboratories) had some issues which caused him to have to slow down the rate at which he payed the pledged payments. However, other pledged donations from other sources were coming in faster than expected/promised and that made up the slack that may have existed. I also remember reading that AIT was coming back around--so it may be a non issue now anyhow.

I haven't seen anything that would suggest that this is affecting things whatsoever. The money is still there and, either way, is compensated from other donors fulfilling their pledges faster than promised. It seems (at least from a students perspective) that Marian University has their finances under control. They don't seem to be cutting any corners at all in starting up this medical school…actually quite the opposite. Everything about this school seems to be top of the line….down to the smallest of details. Again, there is tons of resources and money being offered to this school from various sources in Indiana. The President of the University appears to be quite the fundraiser as well.
 
GypsyHummus said:
What do the whitecoatslook like?
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They look like white coats.:naughty:


Seriously tho, they're nice. I believe the brand is Spectrum (which apparently is pretty good?)...They are not paper thin/see-through like some coats I've seen which is cool. They have the school logo embroidered right breast, IOA patch on left shoulder…I dunno man, it's a white medical student coat haha.
 
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Mr Kenobi said:
Honestly, it has been pretty great so far…we just completed week 1. The way the curriculum is organized seems pretty cool! The facilities are incredible (anatomy lab is incredible!) and from what I've seen with the visiting physician lecturers involvement, there is massive support for this program in Indianapolis. Lots of excitement in the medical community from us being there and lots of people wanting to be involved and see us succeed. The class itself seems to be pretty diverse. I believe they said it was 49% female and 51% male.

They've had a couple IT issues with the new building…like wifi and such being slow from time to time, but have really jumped right on them and have been ironing them out pretty rapidly. Would happen in any brand new high tech facility. A lot of orientation was spent setting up our new iPads, getting acquainted with the portal we will be using, downloading our textbooks, learning how to use the testing software…etc. There is a small learning curve for all of that stuff, but as we all get used to it, it seems like it will all be very nice to have. One cool/unique (at least to me) thing that they mentioned was a potential "faculty swap" with MSU-COM to mix things up when boards review time rolls around…give everyone a fresh perspective on the material. It was just one of the ideas they were tossing around. We also had a virtual panel conference with upperclassmen from MSU--was very cool.

Many interest groups/clubs have already formed and others are in the works. Faculty is bending over backwards to assist students in all aspects so far. The University itself has been more than inclusive of the new MS-1s to it's community. The COM has held a few cool events ie. spouse/significant other type functions already, which is nice! White coat ceremony was amazing and at an awesome venue in Downtown Indy.

*Another point of interest may be that those previously disclosed "stats" for the class of 2017 did not really change when they announced them for the matriculating class. Mcat was 26-27, GPA was 3.5-3.6 is memory recalls correctly.

Edit: just saw that Dr.Meows already posted about some of this^ already…haven't been checking SDN regularly. Anyhow, hope the rest of it answers your question.
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Wow, very nice!

I'm wondering about the ratio of students to cadavers in anatomy lab. Also, what is the calculated COA for the school? because I'm wondering if I could survive with my wife and son on loans alone.
 
Ibn Alnafis MD said:
Wow, very nice!

I'm wondering about the ratio of students to cadavers in anatomy lab. Also, what is the calculated COA for the school? because I'm wondering if I could survive with my wife and son on loans alone.
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The ratio is 4-5 students to 1 cadaver. Actually works out pretty perfect (Kenobi and I are actually in the same group 🙂 ).The maximum COA is $66,667 (I'm pretty sure - I know it was 66 thousand and something lol).
 
Mr Kenobi said:
They look like white coats.:naughty:


Seriously tho, they're nice. I believe the brand is Spectrum (which apparently is pretty good?)...They are not paper thin/see-through like some coats I've seen which is cool. They have the school logo embroidered right breast, IOA patch on left shoulder…I dunno man, it's a white medical student coat haha.
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Do they have each person's name on them?
 
DrMeows said:
The ratio is 4-5 students to 1 cadaver. Actually works out pretty perfect (Kenobi and I are actually in the same group 🙂 ).The maximum COA is $66,667 (I'm pretty sure - I know it was 66 thousand and something lol).
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Thank you for your response.

I know that the tuition is ~40K, other than books and school supplies, what other fees do you pay? I'm trying to figure out if after everything you'll be left with ~24k for living expenses.
 
So we are talking ~$270,000 at the end of four years....ouch!

Does the interest start automatically for the loans offered, or is there some kind of grace period?
 
Complete here! Hoping for the interview invite in the next few weeks!
 
Ibn Alnafis MD said:
Thank you for your response.

I know that the tuition is ~40K, other than books and school supplies, what other fees do you pay? I'm trying to figure out if after everything you'll be left with ~24k for living expenses.
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The rest of the money really goes towards living. Marian (and I'm
sure all other schools do also) gives you
approximations of how much everything costs (living, travel, food, etc.) to try to estimate what you need as much as possible. Some was for books and diagnostic supplies too. I know a lot of people took out the max because they weren't sure. I can't find the financial estimate breakdown sheet they gave us though, I got that back in March at the accepted students day.
 
Salmanilatron said:
So we are talking ~$270,000 at the end of four years....ouch!

Does the interest start automatically for the loans offered, or is there some kind of grace period?
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Haha yeah add undergraduate and other graduate loans PLUS interest and it can be much much more unfortunately 🙁 don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure there's a 6 month grace period on loans in general after you graduate.
 
Salmanilatron said:
So we are talking ~$270,000 at the end of four years....ouch!

Does the interest start automatically for the loans offered, or is there some kind of grace period?
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Yeah it's a lot of money. That amount is only if you take out the max in loans. If you only need to take out enough for tuition, it's closer to $170k. (Of course once you add in interest over the 4 years of school... it's a lot, lot more).
I believe there is an extra $1200 fee for technology (this included our new ipads!) and $200 for a parking permit and if you opt for a meal plan, that's extra. Can't think of any fees besides that... Kenobi & Meows can chime in here.
And interest starts immediately when the loans are dispersed, but you do have a 6 month grace period to pay back the loans after you finish school.
Actual cost of living in Indy is really not bad compared to other big cities. We actually decided to buy a house since the market is so great right now (And Indy is a really fantastic city to live in!).

My anatomy group has 4 per cadaver and there's a huge flat screen tv/computer at the head of the table so you can always see what the prof is demonstrating. It's an amazing facility.

I just want to echo everything Kenobi said about MU-COM. It's an amazing school and really state-of-the-art facilities. And rumor has it, we get to be involved with interviews this year! Hopefully I may get to meet a few of you 🙂
 
Ibn Alnafis MD said:
Thank you for your response.

I know that the tuition is ~40K, other than books and school supplies, what other fees do you pay? I'm trying to figure out if after everything you'll be left with ~24k for living expenses.
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I've also heard that if you really need an increase in loans, you can talk to the financial aid director and go over all the numbers and they can individually increase your COA. Don't quote me on this, because I'm not sure if that's true for MU-COM... but I've heard of other schools doing it.
 
Got an "Open house" invite for sept 6th....probably the week before they start conducting interviews for which i am hopeful to get. Is it worth going if you are applying this cycle? was wondering what the thinking is behind this from everyone. thanks.
 
3bamboo said:
how is the school so far for those of you who are beginning first term??
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Took me a couple days to really get to answering this, but school is actually pretty awesome. As far as the curriculum goes, I can tell I'm really going to like it. I came from a graduate program with that was basic-science based (biochem, physio, pharm, micro, etc.). When you were done studying one really science intensive course, you had to jump to another one. Here it's not like that. Every class you take at the same time is very different from the next one (so far in my experience, anyways). Since we're systems based, we are taking 4 courses right now (OMM, Anatomy, Intro to Clinical Medicine and a Scientific Foundations Course). The foundations course is designed to be the biochem/physio/micro/pharm/etc. all wrapped into one. After that's over, you start on organ systems (cardiology, renal, etc.). Anatomy is hard science, yes, but so much of it is hands on dissection in lab that it's very different from learning things as brain-tiring as biochemical pathways. We just started working on our ICM course and every week we basically get a case (that from my understanding, should link up with the type of "system" we will be in), and have a PBL-style discussion group to discuss it. OMM, obviously, is also another extremely hands on course so that's a nice break from the monotony of sitting in a classroom. The only thing that makes me a LITTLE nervous is how we have fewer tests with more material. Our first exam isn't until September 16th and it's from everything we learned since August 12th. The positive thing, however, is that the courses give us practice quizzes each week to show us how they would word their future exam questions. It obviously allows you to gauge where you are in each course in terms of learning, and get a feel for the test writing style of each professor.

The facilities are pretty top notch, to echo what people have said before. We each have a plug and Ethernet connection in lecture, and also a speaker in between each of us (so you don't get annoyed when someone on the other side of the lecture hall asks a question and you can't hear them). Each lecture is also recorded, and from what I understand they're really quick at uploading that (pretty much right after lecture). When you use a speaker to ask a question in class, those questions are put on the recording also. I've never had the privilege of using recorded lectures before, and I've used it a couple of times so far to go over parts of lectures I'm confused about. Being able to slow it down, pause, and whatever REALLY helps to make the concepts stick that you might have missed while staying in lecture. I believe we have access to all of this information through the 4 years we are Marian so that's cool. Also, we have a type of food/coffee store in our building (a good 10 second walk out of the lecture hall) to buy different drink and food items (different coffees, microwavable things, even a milkshake machine....!!). So if you need a snack, caffeine pick me up, or even a meal you don't have to go very far. I really like the class style, versus class styles I saw at other schools I interviewed at last cycle. There is no dress code (basically just don't walk in with extreme clothing with derogatory words, or don't show up naked lol). There is no attendance policy (except mandatory attendance for anatomy lab, OMM lab, and ICM groups....as it should be anyways). Professors have made a point to say basically "do things the way you learn best" which is really refreshing, since not everyone is the same. So far, I have been to every course, but if there's a time in the future where I need to not be at one, it's less stressful to know that's allowed.

Yes, there have been IT issues here (wireless internet sporadically not working, certain apps on our iPads not opening, etc.). But the IT department and faculty are VERY quick to fix these issues. I think this is only going to be an issue for the first class as we deal with all of the kinks that come along with everyone being in a new building and using new equipment. Going along with the issue of faculty, they're all pretty awesome. Obviously you're going to have people you like more than others in terms of lecture style and organization (I definitely do already), but no one seems like a BAD professor. They're all open to questions and seem to be pretty open to criticism. We will be voting in "liaisons" for each course - they act as student representatives for the courses who will listen to the criticisms of the course from students, and relay them to the professors to make the classes more beneficial for the students.

There seems to be a good amount of study space in the new facility. A few "cafeteria style" type rooms where people eat/study and a lot of mini conference rooms with either normal dry erase boards, or paint on the walls that act as dry erase boards. I was a little bummed they didn't have cubicles or some type of "quiet space" available for us, but honestly that's just starting to nit pick. We are part of a huge university, and I'm sure if I explored a little bit or walked the 200 feet to the library, I could probably find that type of thing.

They seem to really be active in the first class and making things go correctly. I constantly see Dean Evans walking around, Bryan Moody from admissions, and one of our professors is also head of curriculum. He's always sitting in on the lectures - I would assume to make sure everything is going according to plan curriculum-wise - so I honestly feel like our class is in great hands.

Okay that's enough of a novel for now. I'll add some more if I remember anything! Good luck with the cycle this year guys, and hopefully I will be a part of the interview days and meet some people! 👍
 
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