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Elkhart said:
As someone currently in repayment, unless you have some seriously exceptional reason not to do so, I really urge you to attend the least expensive option you have available. I've heard of people coming out of Midwestern with $400k+ worth of debt once interest and capitalization are all accounted for. That is a ludicrous amount of money to have to pay back. That level of debt can make it exceedingly difficult to ever afford being able to start a family or get approved for a mortgage or car loan in the future. Not to mention the very real psychological toll simply having that amount of debt hanging over your head can have. I attended my (much cheaper) IS vet school for two years and even only being ~$100k in the hole sends me spiraling mentally sometimes, though I have sort of unique circumstances.

I have no doubt that Midwestern is a fine vet school at all and I am sure that they produce great doctors. Hell, I applied and was accepted there myself several years ago, but try to consider your wellbeing for the long-term future. What happens if you fail out? What happens if you have to leave for other reasons? What happens if you graduate and ultimately decide that your first job or vet med as a whole isn't for you? Trying to navigate complex and unforeseen life situations with ~$400k worth of debt is a whole other world from doing so with $100k or even $200k. We all like to think things will pan out perfectly, but that's not guaranteed. Hoo boy, is it not guaranteed...

Anyway, insofar as support systems are concerned, most of your classmates will be in the same boat, honestly. Family won't be able to really relate to what you're going through unless they've been through it themselves and they can surely root you on from further away, too. You'll find and build a new support system along the way. More than that, though, as I tend to say around these parts a lot: vet school itself only lasts four years; the debt lasts much, much longer than that in most cases.
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Thank you for your input, it means a lot for me to hear coming from someone who knows more than me! I am definitely leaning towards OSU or WSU, I'll probably be deciding in the next month or so.
 
Has anyone received an email or call about their acceptance?
 
jenjen2020 said:
I'm in kind of a tough spot with this because I LOVED Midwestern (the people, facilities, etc) when I had my interview, I have lived in Arizona my whole life, and my family is here. I did undergrad in CA and while I loved it there, a big part of me is ready to return to AZ. However, I was also accepted to Oregon and Washington State, and I know they have some of the cheapest tuition you can get, while Midwestern is sooo expensive. It has put me in a really tough spot because I feel like having my family close would be a huge support system while going through vet school and I don't know anyone living in Oregon or Washington.
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100% what Elkhart said. If you wanted to PM me you can. But if I applied and got accepted to any other program, I would’ve gone with them because of the crazy debt load. Recent graduates I’ve spoken to have ~$450-500k in loans JUST from vet school (no undergrad). I love my school, and I love being close to family. But I really wish I applied smarter and was able to do anything to lessen the debt I would accrue in vet school.

Edit to mention: Congrats to those who’ve been accepted!!
 
jenjen2020 said:
Thank you for your input, it means a lot for me to hear coming from someone who knows more than me! I am definitely leaning towards OSU or WSU, I'll probably be deciding in the next month or so.
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I just wanted to mention if you do want to save money, WSU allows you to switch to in-state tuition after your first year if you are in Pullman all 4 years. OSU does not, they are my in-state and I had a close friend go through the process of gaining in-state status before applying, it is a pain in the a** and you can’t do it at all while going to vet school. Corvallis is great, but WSU would seriously save you around $60k in tuition compared to OSU!
 
disneydork said:
I just wanted to mention if you do want to save money, WSU allows you to switch to in-state tuition after your first year if you are in Pullman all 4 years. OSU does not, they are my in-state and I had a close friend go through the process of gaining in-state status before applying, it is a pain in the a** and you can’t do it at all while going to vet school. Corvallis is great, but WSU would seriously save you around $60k in tuition compared to OSU!
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Yes, I've heard about this for WSU! I am still considering both as I am WICHE certified and if I get the funding, both will be about the same price! Thank you for your thoughts. 🙂
 
Is anyone using the GI bill to pay for vet school? I will be using mine but I am confused on the details!
 
Acceptance Requirements Questions:

Hi! To those who have been accepted to Midwestern- Where are you sending your Fall transcripts? I found this email online...... [email protected]
Is that where you guys are sending it or did I miss something?
Also, is there anything we NEED to do right now if we have been accepted? I want to wait to send my deposit, etc until I have heard from all the schools I applied to, but I also don't want to drop the ball on anything at Midwestern!
Thanks!!!
 
Declined my invite. Best of luck to those on the waitlist!
 
SouthernVet said:
Acceptance Requirements Questions:

Hi! To those who have been accepted to Midwestern- Where are you sending your Fall transcripts? I found this email online...... [email protected]
Is that where you guys are sending it or did I miss something?
Also, is there anything we NEED to do right now if we have been accepted? I want to wait to send my deposit, etc until I have heard from all the schools I applied to, but I also don't want to drop the ball on anything at Midwestern!
Thanks!!!
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Hi! I don’t exactly know the questions to your answers but there is a Facebook page for students that are for sure attending MWU. It’s called midwestern university college of veterinary medicine c/o 2024.
 
Lynseybyrd said:
Hi! I don’t exactly know the questions to your answers but there is a Facebook page for students that are for sure attending MWU. It’s called midwestern university college of veterinary medicine c/o 2024.
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Thanks! I will check it out. It didn't seem like we had to do anything further but wanted to see if I was missing anything.
 
SouthernVet said:
Thanks! I will check it out. It didn't seem like we had to do anything further but wanted to see if I was missing anything.
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So far I’ve only finished the checklist for the admitted students that’s in our portal.
 
Update for Fall Transcripts:
I called admissions today, if you’re already accepted, you do not HAVE to send fall transcripts. They just need transcripts before orientation.
SouthernVet said:
Acceptance Requirements Questions:

Hi! To those who have been accepted to Midwestern- Where are you sending your Fall transcripts? I found this email online...... [email protected]
Is that where you guys are sending it or did I miss something?
Also, is there anything we NEED to do right now if we have been accepted? I want to wait to send my deposit, etc until I have heard from all the schools I applied to, but I also don't want to drop the ball on anything at Midwestern!
Thanks!!!
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colette4311 said:
Does anyone have an interview on January 29th, 2020?
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i do! Currently not sure if I am going because I have other interviews before it and its on the other side of the country, plus is one of the most expensive schools
 
To current students or anyone who may know: How is the on-campus housing? Is it pretty nice? -- they only seem to provide floor plans and do not provide actual pictures. Seems to be two levels of "standard" and "luxury"
 
Wolfie<3 said:
To current students or anyone who may know: How is the on-campus housing? Is it pretty nice? -- they only seem to provide floor plans and do not provide actual pictures. Seems to be two levels of "standard" and "luxury"
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Quite a few of my friends live on campus and love it. I think they’re a pretty good quality and cheaper than living like across the street, which I’ve heard varies from like ($1k-1,600/month, depending on size and the area).
 
Would any current student be willing to give me some advice? I’m most likely going here and I’m from the other side of the country so I have absolutely no idea what I’m doing lol
 
futuresadvm97 said:
Would any current student be willing to give me some advice? I’m most likely going here and I’m from the other side of the country so I have absolutely no idea what I’m doing lol
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What kind of advice would you like?
 
Lynseybyrd said:
So far I’ve only finished the checklist for the admitted students that’s in our portal.
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Did you sign that Matriculation Agreement as well? Is that something that is binding? I, of course, want to secure my spot, but I also want to make sure there aren't any other school decisions before I completely commit to a school. I still need to sign up on the app and the FB group.
 
SouthernVet said:
Did you sign that Matriculation Agreement as well? Is that something that is binding? I, of course, want to secure my spot, but I also want to make sure there aren't any other school decisions before I completely commit to a school. I still need to sign up on the app and the FB group.
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Not something you’re stuck in, someone in 2023** left I believe during the first week of classes because of receiving an offer at another school.
 
Does Midwestern give any sort of scholarships or grants?
 
Those who have interviewed this cycle and been accepted, any advice for those of us with interviews coming up in the next few weeks? Anything you wish you could have done differently or felt more prepared for? I am making flash cards with just your basic interview questions, with some scenario questions, and plan on doing a mock interview with the veterinarian I work for. I did a video interview with Ross University a few weeks ago and it was very laid back with straightforward questions, so this is going to be my very first "in-person" interview. Thanks in advance!
 
@mrsakirklin

As someone who was placed on the alternate list - if I could redo my interview - I would. Looking back, I felt I was too rehearsed, and the answers that I gave didn't seem genuine. I would try and go with my gut on my answers rather than answer the question how I think they were hoping I would. It also helps to take a second to process the question and then respond to it versus just blurting out. Good luck to you!
 
mrsakirklin said:
Those who have interviewed this cycle and been accepted, any advice for those of us with interviews coming up in the next few weeks? Anything you wish you could have done differently or felt more prepared for?
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Try to think of a question that you can ask at the end and even if you don't come up with a question, maybe something will come up during the interview? In my interview, research at Midwestern came up and so I asked about research possibilities at Midwestern at the end. They only give 30 mins total or something like that for an interview so if you want to talk about something not covered in the interview it may be difficult.

They ask some what if you are in this situation questions and probably you will do better by answering honestly. I feel like panicking and answering how you think they want you to answer can majorly backfire with these sorta questions.
 
I contacted Midwestern about the prereqs they say I haven't completed on my Admitted Students sheet (2 of the courses were mistakenly on there as not being fulfilled while 1 I just didn't have enough semester credits because my college is weird and gives all courses 3.5 semester hours) and they emailed me back that they corrected it so that I no longer have any needed courses. Glad they were pretty quick and painless with figuring this out. Was questioning if I would have to take General Chemistry again just to get that extra 1 semester credit. After Organic Chem I feel like I can do any chem class at this point :bang:
 
I agree with the others- It was in my favor to not overly prepare answers, I think they could tell I was being genuine that way. Also, I made a few errors when speaking due to nerves and felt that some of my answers weren't long enough, but I was still accepted. So my advice would be not to overly prepare answers and just be genuine in your responses. Do not despair if you think you didn't answer a question properly or stumble on your words a bit! It's easy to overthink it but honestly going in there being yourself will show.
 
I should have gone with my gut on a lot of the answers, but I didn't - lesson learned.
 
But remember that this advice isn't saying you shouldn't prepare at all. Just have a rough idea of what you would say to those "Common interview questions." For example, for SGU I had the question What are your strengths and weaknesses? I feel like it was good that I had an idea what I wanted to say. Just not the exact words.
 
On-campus living is so convenient. I only fill up my gas tank once a month and don’t have to deal with parking.

Luxury apartments are huge but only one building is animal-friendly (studio is $700, one bedroom is $900, two bedroom is $1100).

Most people with animals live alone in the standard two-bedroom apartments ($810).
Standard ones have communal laundry rooms but it’s free. You can get a roommate but it’s kinda frowned upon to take up one of the 5 animal-friendly buildings if you don’t have an animal just to save $100. There’s also no breed restrictions or pet limit so it’s very competitive.

Rent is ½ price in the summer. You only pay for electricity and WiFi.

Come 2nd year when you are doing surgery patient checks (PM day before, AM + PM day of, and AM for discharge) or 3rd year when you’re doing rotations at the clinic across the street you’ll be glad you don’t have to drive 10-30minutes.

Plus if you live on campus you can make pretty easy money during the lunch hour first year walking dogs for upperclassmen or pet sitting during holiday breaks.

A good portion of people rent houses/apartments ($400-600/person) nearby with roommates but if you do that I advise to live with someone in a different year or program. It gets really old seeing the same people for 8 hours in class then when you’re decompressing at home.

Am I missing anything?
The $300 deposit is refundable if you don’t get placed so really it’s a win/win situation.
 
WonderingStudent said:
Is it very common to have a car?
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There is a fry (grocery store) less than 2 minutes away but you do have to cross a very large road (there’s a crosswalk). People do it Just makes me nervous since people enter from the highway going 70+.
There’s a Walmart and target less than 5minutes away also so you can definitely make it work especially if you have a roommate or close friend with a car.
 
daisypush said:
On-campus living is so convenient. I only fill up my gas tank once a month and don’t have to deal with parking.

Luxury apartments are huge but only one building is animal-friendly (studio is $700, one bedroom is $900, two bedroom is $1100).

Most people with animals live alone in the standard two-bedroom apartments ($810).
Standard ones have communal laundry rooms but it’s free. You can get a roommate but it’s kinda frowned upon to take up one of the 5 animal-friendly buildings if you don’t have an animal just to save $100. There’s also no breed restrictions or pet limit so it’s very competitive.

Rent is ½ price in the summer. You only pay for electricity and WiFi.

Come 2nd year when you are doing surgery patient checks (PM day before, AM + PM day of, and AM for discharge) or 3rd year when you’re doing rotations at the clinic across the street you’ll be glad you don’t have to drive 10-30minutes.

Plus if you live on campus you can make pretty easy money during the lunch hour first year walking dogs for upperclassmen or pet sitting during holiday breaks.

A good portion of people rent houses/apartments ($400-600/person) nearby with roommates but if you do that I advise to live with someone in a different year or program. It gets really old seeing the same people for 8 hours in class then when you’re decompressing at home.

Am I missing anything?
The $300 deposit is refundable if you don’t get placed so really it’s a win/win situation.
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Thanks for all that extremely helpful information!!!!

I was considering either the luxury one bed room, or the standard animal friendly living so that I can get a cat my first year (of course considering if first years can get one of these two).

Is the luxury housing that much nicer than the standard housing? Do they all have air condition to survive the AZ heat? lol
 
Wolfie<3 said:
Thanks for all that extremely helpful information!!!!

I was considering either the luxury one bed room, or the standard animal friendly living so that I can get a cat my first year (of course considering if first years can get one of these two).

Is the luxury housing that much nicer than the standard housing? Do they all have air condition to survive the AZ heat? lol
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The Luxury models are noticeably nicer and have a washer and dryer as well as dishwasher plus storage and an enclosed patio. That being said there’s only one building that has animal friendly luxury models so the odds are against you.

There is always the opportunity to move after first year so I would honestly rank everything (both standard options, the luxury one bedroom, and the studio).

All units have AC and you can apply for an APS program to have 25% deducted from your monthly statement. AC is expensive here in the summer months I can pay $100 with discount in my 600sqft just keeping it at 78. Get blackout curtains and turn everything off in October for “winter” and you’ll be fine.
 
daisypush said:
The Luxury models are noticeably nicer and have a washer and dryer as well as dishwasher plus storage and an enclosed patio. That being said there’s only one building that has animal friendly luxury models so the odds are against you.

There is always the opportunity to move after first year so I would honestly rank everything (both standard options, the luxury one bedroom, and the studio).

All units have AC and you can apply for an APS program to have 25% deducted from your monthly statement. AC is expensive here in the summer months I can pay $100 with discount in my 600sqft just keeping it at 78. Get blackout curtains and turn everything off in October for “winter” and you’ll be fine.
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Last question! --Are they furnished at all with any basics? (furniture, etc.)
 
daisypush said:
On-campus living is so convenient. I only fill up my gas tank once a month and don’t have to deal with parking.

Luxury apartments are huge but only one building is animal-friendly (studio is $700, one bedroom is $900, two bedroom is $1100).

Most people with animals live alone in the standard two-bedroom apartments ($810).
Standard ones have communal laundry rooms but it’s free. You can get a roommate but it’s kinda frowned upon to take up one of the 5 animal-friendly buildings if you don’t have an animal just to save $100. There’s also no breed restrictions or pet limit so it’s very competitive.

Rent is ½ price in the summer. You only pay for electricity and WiFi.

Come 2nd year when you are doing surgery patient checks (PM day before, AM + PM day of, and AM for discharge) or 3rd year when you’re doing rotations at the clinic across the street you’ll be glad you don’t have to drive 10-30minutes.

Plus if you live on campus you can make pretty easy money during the lunch hour first year walking dogs for upperclassmen or pet sitting during holiday breaks.

A good portion of people rent houses/apartments ($400-600/person) nearby with roommates but if you do that I advise to live with someone in a different year or program. It gets really old seeing the same people for 8 hours in class then when you’re decompressing at home.

Am I missing anything?
The $300 deposit is refundable if you don’t get placed so really it’s a win/win situation.
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How fast would you say the animal friendly standard housing fills up?
 
Wolfie<3 said:
Last question! --Are they furnished at all with any basics? (furniture, etc.)
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Unfurnished but there are plenty of thrift stores nearby and an ikea about 45 minutes away. The easiest thing to do though is buy from other students.


vetinprogress_998 said:
How fast would you say the animal friendly standard housing fills up?
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Pretty quickly. Those who live on-campus currently have priority so that’s why it’s better to rank every viable option and if push comes to shove wait it out a year.

I would imagine the studios would be a very tight fit for multiple people but for a single person and an animal or two under 40ish lbs you could definitely make it work for 9 months.
 
I’m kind of unsure about what kind of apartment to get. I for sure want to live on campus because I won’t be bringing my car and I don’t have any animals (I wouldn’t mind getting one but I’m going to be flying back and forth for breaks so I’m not sure that would work out). I also wouldn’t mind having a roommate but I don’t know anyone. I guess ultimately whatever is cheapest is what I would go for. Any suggestions?
 
futuresadvm97 said:
I’m kind of unsure about what kind of apartment to get. I for sure want to live on campus because I won’t be bringing my car and I don’t have any animals (I wouldn’t mind getting one but I’m going to be flying back and forth for breaks so I’m not sure that would work out). I also wouldn’t mind having a roommate but I don’t know anyone. I guess ultimately whatever is cheapest is what I would go for. Any suggestions?
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Non-animal friendly Luxury 2-bedroom and request to be paired with someone. Those are <$600/month/person.
You can apply for the standard animal-friendly options but unless you have an animal (or children) you’re less likely to be approved for it.

You could also try for a studio those are $700.

Many students live across the street and love it but those apartments are more expensive.

If you haven’t interviewed yet I recommend just driving around the area for 10-ish minutes. A lot of apartments complexes aren’t listed in zillow.

Make sure to join your class FB page once you get accepted, there’s probably plenty of people looking for roommates and housing. If you’re someone who doesn’t use social media just make an account strictly for school (use a different name or just last initial if you’re worried about people finding you). People who don’t use the Facebook pages miss out on so much.
 
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