Once Upon A Time WW Game Thread

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LetItSnow said:
Ok, but it's about as meaningful a defense as "Hey all, I know you're voting to lynch me, but I'm not a wolf. Kkthxbai."

I mean ... by saying you can be vouched for but not actually letting it happen ... what have you done? Nothing.



Until you do otherwise, I can't determine my actions based on what you claim you might do. I'm with DVMD ... barring some other obvious vote tomorrow that would cause me to change it, my contingency vote will go in for you. You're just doing too much hand-waving with no actual substance.
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Then we shall see tomorrow.
 
LetItSnow said:
You'd rather pass on a highly-suspected wolf and your argument is "because it's not game-ending"? That's ... weird. Wouldn't you want to take out the wolf <and whatever its role is>??? Even though wolf numbers are the primary concern, don't forget they (often? usually? sometimes?) have abilities to boot. Letting them continue to use it... I dunno. I think you'd have to have a strong reason.
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As I mentioned, a seer... worthwhile to keep a seer around... if we are wrong on this, we lose a valuable piece to get ALL the wolves... if we are right, we only get 1 of several wolves.
 
thedrjojo said:
As I mentioned, a seer... worthwhile to keep a seer around... if we are wrong on this, we lose a valuable piece to get ALL the wolves... if we are right, we only get 1 of several wolves.
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I was really adamant one game not too long ago that lynching the "seer" was a bad idea. Stuck to it and the "seer" was not lynched for quite some time, turns out the "seer" was a wolf. Yeah, I get what you are saying but I do not see how it is possible for Tamara to not only be a villager but to ALSO be a seer and HELPING the villagers... seems off to me.
 
DVMDream said:
I do not see how it is possible for Tamara to not only be a villager but to ALSO be a seer and HELPING the villagers... seems off to me.
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I didn't design the game. Beats me. I read up on Tamara and Greg. I agree all indications say that Tamara would be a wolf. Chalk it up to the devious minds of Escalla and kaydubs.

Or, maybe I turn into a wolf when I find Owen. Or when magic is released, if that is a mechanic in the game. Who knows. I am not a wolf now, and I have helped other villagers as far as I am able. (My role works every other night.)
 
DVMDream said:
I was really adamant one game not too long ago that lynching the "seer" was a bad idea. Stuck to it and the "seer" was not lynched for quite some time, turns out the "seer" was a wolf. Yeah, I get what you are saying but I do not see how it is possible for Tamara to not only be a villager but to ALSO be a seer and HELPING the villagers... seems off to me.
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hey, I admit its fishy, and very well may find myself with egg on my face.

I was also real adamant about not getting abbers lynched 2 games ago, and was right about that... and then she got converted, and I was wise enough to lynch her in the end of the game...
 
Sorry guys...just got home from clinics.

Had the quill and ink last night which lets you PM someone through the mods, but I didn't use it, and was told someone stole it from me. Other than that, nothing major to report...super sad we lost Henry though...he makes people believe in magic....Wonder what that'll do to the game mechanics?

Tamara is for sure bad in the show...sooo my gut is telling me lynch FFM today.
 
thedrjojo said:
As I mentioned, a seer... worthwhile to keep a seer around... if we are wrong on this, we lose a valuable piece to get ALL the wolves... if we are right, we only get 1 of several wolves.
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I've been dealt my share (more than my share, really) of shady-ass characters who are villagers, but I've never been given one where virtually everybody familiar with the theme was saying "no way is that character a villager."

The 'egg on face' could be on mine. I get it. But I'm just not going to stare an obviously evil wolf character in the face and not vote to lynch. If the mods screw us by making a clearly evil character a villager, then they screw us.

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Current lynch tally:
WS 3 - devyn, rojo, Dwin
Jam 3 - Lupin, dyachei, TRH
cuit 0
FFM 13 - EC, SOV, bbeventer, swings, allie, hedgie, wld, Alors, wildcat, WS, LIS, tuckervet, SnS
FantasyFlyer 1 - Minnerbelle

Waffles: 8

Looking for 10 more votes.
 
LetItSnow said:
Ok, but it's about as meaningful a defense as "Hey all, I know you're voting to lynch me, but I'm not a wolf. Kkthxbai."

I mean ... by saying you can be vouched for but not actually letting it happen ... what have you done? Nothing.



Until you do otherwise, I can't determine my actions based on what you claim you might do. I'm with DVMD ... barring some other obvious vote tomorrow that would cause me to change it, my contingency vote will go in for you. You're just doing too much hand-waving with no actual substance.
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This....I didn't change my vote last night because I was asleep, but after reading her defense, I doubt I would have changed it just because she said..."ohhh don't vote for me, someone can vouch, but person...please don't come forward".
Plus, you knew I had switched my vote....you pointed it out that I changed from fantasy and then 20 mins later claimed you didn't know why she only had one vote left.....
 
Things I wish I knew the answer to:
- did 'the apple' kill Nstarz or were the apples in the write up just to make it interesting?
- do certain characters need to pair up before magic is released, and if so, are items useless until that happens ( I remember someone saying they used the top hat and just looked good in it... I am wondering if that is because it was not in the right hands or if magic has not been released)?
- was SOV protected from the apple as a general protection, or was that specific to his role ( and on that note, which character would be safe from the poisonous apple)?
- how many typos will be in this post since I suck at typing on my phone?
- who can I actually trust in this game?!?!
 
tuckervet said:
- do certain characters need to pair up before magic is released, and if so, are items useless until that happens (I remember someone saying they used the top hat and just looked good in it... I am wondering if that is because it was not in the right hands or if magic has not been released)?
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I think that the hat needs to find it's way to the Mad Hatter in order for something to happen.
 
shortnsweet said:
This....I didn't change my vote last night because I was asleep, but after reading her defense, I doubt I would have changed it just because she said..."ohhh don't vote for me, someone can vouch, but person...please don't come forward".
Plus, you knew I had switched my vote....you pointed it out that I changed from fantasy and then 20 mins later claimed you didn't know why she only had one vote left.....
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I'm assuming this part is aimed at me? I knew you had unlynched someone, but couldn't remember who and I was trying to keep a lynch tally in my head. I have really crappy internet right now(11mbps, when it should be 56!). It takes a while to refresh, if it works at all.

Like I said before. If, at 30 minutes til deadline, people had not been waffling off of me, yes I would have role revealed myself. I was hoping saying I had someone that could vouch for me would work, and it did. And we will hear from someone about it(hopefully!) in the next 24 hours.

And no, I could not start the message line during that lynch, because we couldn't PM within groups.
 
wolfspeaker said:
I had missed the unlynching of FF at some point(II think it was Sns). Votes were changing quickly. Trying to save my ass, because you guys kept voting for me after I said someone can vouch for me! 😳
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And here is where I said I thought it was you that unlynched FF, 4 posts after I said I didn't know FF had only 1 vote(when I voted for them).
 
tuckervet said:
- do certain characters need to pair up before magic is released, and if so, are items useless until that happens ( I remember someone saying they used the top hat and just looked good in it... I am wondering if that is because it was not in the right hands or if magic has not been released)?
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I think that's the case.

Night one I had the magic lamp, nothing happened when I used it. Certain items must have certain conditions or character requirements to work.
 
Ok, so I got a red hooded cloak last night. Because red looks so dang good on me, I decided to put it on.

Does anyone know what it does?

Also, my thoughts so far are the following:
WS is always suspicious, she just talks herself into a hole..the combo of what she says and how she says it makes her seem suspicious. But how often is she actually a wolf?
FFM as Tamara... I have never seen the show, but I've read some of the wiki and I do agree that she sounds evil. I have been in contact with someone claiming to be Owen (and looking for Tamara). From what they say, I highly doubt they are a wolf. From what this person says, they also don't think Tamara would be a wolf. But I'm torn. I've role revealed with them, but have told them not to vouch for me just yet.


Ugh, not quite ready to lynch FFM just yet, so lynch FS
 
Jamr0ckin said:
Also, my thoughts so far are the following:
WS is always suspicious, she just talks herself into a hole..the combo of what she says and how she says it makes her seem suspicious. But how often is she actually a wolf?
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I really don't get the reason behind these comments. We all know (more or less) that the roles are randomized each game... her chance of being a wolf is equal to the chance that everyone had of being a wolf this game, it makes zero sense to make a comparison such as, "well how often are they REALLY a wolf" or "so and so is ALWAYS a wolf".
 
Jamr0ckin said:
Also, my thoughts so far are the following:
WS is always suspicious, she just talks herself into a hole..the combo of what she says and how she says it makes her seem suspicious. But how often is she actually a wolf?
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Except, I hadn't done anything to be suspicious the first lynch. That was purely a bandwagon. THEN, I said someone could vouch for me. Which they can. And you will all see within a day. All I'm asking is for you to wait.

There have been plenty of other games where someone says, "I can prove I'm a villager, just please wait" and everyone backs off for a day or two for them to prove it. All I'm asking for is the same courtesy you all give the "big" players.
 
DVMDream said:
I really don't get the reason behind these comments. We all know (more or less) that the roles are randomized each game... her chance of being a wolf is equal to the chance that everyone had of being a wolf this game, it makes zero sense to make a comparison such as, "well how often are they REALLY a wolf" or "so and so is ALWAYS a wolf".
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What I'm trying to say is how often is WS actually a wolf when we lynch her for being suspicious or whatnot? Like someone might say that they get suspicious of someone in a few games and they be right. I don't think we are usually right about her...
 
Jamr0ckin said:
What I'm trying to say is how often is WS actually a wolf when we lynch her for being suspicious or whatnot? Like someone might say that they get suspicious of someone in a few games and they be right. I don't think we are usually right about her...
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We can say that about a lot of people. If you lynch the same person every game, how often will they actually be a wolf... my guess not often. It is just a silly thing to compare in my opinion. That is previous games, we are not playing those games.. this is a new game. Time to start over and look at information from this game and not dwell on past ones like that. (Look at past games for mechanics and the like, but not for comparison of well that person is a wolf a lot, or that person is a good wolf, or that person is always a wolf, or lynching that person usually gives us a villager... those are all speculation and do not follow logic).
 
so darn confused till I started watching the show last night.

Tamara seems to always be evil but for those of you who played doce mega man WW, remember how in mega man the evil people always had red eyes, I looked at fonz in the magic mirror and it told me he has red eyes...and then he ended up being mega man and not a bad guy? So I guess mods don't always stick to story lines and facts 100%

I got yelled at for the above for awhile so just thought I'd point it out.

gonna catch up on reading the thread and then vote.
 
Jamr0ckin said:
Ok, so I got a red hooded cloak last night. Because red looks so dang good on me, I decided to put it on.
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My guess is the cloak is protective. In the show granny told Red that the cloak would protect her from wolf attacks but only if she wore it. In reality it actually protected everyone else from wolf attacks.
 
There are literally no redeeming qualities about Tamara on the show. It's not an iffy character it's an evil one. I could maybe see her as a neutral separate win condition character but not a villager. Maybe once she finds Owen/Greg they learn more about the win condition. I really can't buy her as a villager.
 
hedgiehog said:
My guess is the cloak is protective. In the show granny told Red that the cloak would protect her from wolf attacks but only if she wore it. In reality it actually protected everyone else from wolf attacks.
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OMG.If I were modding I'd *so* use that. I wouldn't make it that powerful, of course (i.e. that only the wearer was killable by wolves), but I'd definitely do something with it. Maybe give the wolves no seers but make it so whoever wore the cloak had their role revealed to the wolves (sorta a bullseye-ish sorta effect). Maybe give a 25% chance that the wolf attack that night was diverted to the person in the cloak. Or even 50%. Hm.

Um. I dunno. Something. But I'd definitely use it.
 
hedgiehog said:
There are literally no redeeming qualities about Tamara on the show. It's not an iffy character it's an evil one. I could maybe see her as a neutral separate win condition character but not a villager. Maybe once she finds Owen/Greg they learn more about the win condition. I really can't buy her as a villager.
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Well then I am in the running for the dumbest wolf in the history of WW.
 
I'm not sure what to think about this whole FFM thing. Something's going wrong /somewhere/.

So with that, and the circles WS has been running around in...

lynch WS
 
nohika said:
I'm not sure what to think about this whole FFM thing. Something's going wrong /somewhere/.

So with that, and the circles WS has been running around in...

lynch WS
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Scroll up a few posts to where Rojo posted. 👍
 
LetItSnow said:
OMG.If I were modding I'd *so* use that. I wouldn't make it that powerful, of course (i.e. that only the wearer was killable by wolves), but I'd definitely do something with it. Maybe give the wolves no seers but make it so whoever wore the cloak had their role revealed to the wolves (sorta a bullseye-ish sorta effect). Maybe give a 25% chance that the wolf attack that night was diverted to the person in the cloak. Or even 50%. Hm.

Um. I dunno. Something. But I'd definitely use it.
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Okay that's not quite what I meant with the cloak thing but I look forward to seeing that in one of your games. I was trying not to spoil anyone so I guess I'll use wld's white text model. SPOILERS:Red was actually the werewolf that was killing people. Granny had the cloak made to prevent her from turning into a wolf. She didn't want Red to know she was a monster so she told her that the wolf couldn't kill her if she wore the cloak. Of course Red keeps forgetting the cloak and goes off killing people.
 
Flim Flam Man said:
Well then I am in the running for the dumbest wolf in the history of WW.
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I can maybe see you not being told you're a wolf but instead being a neutral/chaotic character. I think either way Tamara is bad news bears for other characters in this game.
 
hedgiehog said:
I can maybe see you not being told you're a wolf but instead being a neutral/chaotic character. I think either way Tamara is bad news bears for other characters in this game.
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Neutral/chaotic with no win condition. For all the times I have been a "neutral"/chaotic character, if not told I had a separate win condition, I have counted as a villager.

Anyways, I see why people are having trouble believing me, but you are going to lynch a villager seer.
 
Current lynch tally:
WS 3 - devyn, Dwin, nohika
Jam 4 - Lupin, dyachei, TRH, rojo
cuit 0
FFM 13 - EC, SOV, bbeventer, swings, allie, hedgie, wld, Alors, wildcat, WS, LIS, tuckervet, SnS
FantasyFlyer 2 - Minnerbelle, FS
FS 1 - Jam

Waffles: 9

Looking for 7 more votes.
 
lynch Jam in an attempt for self-preservation
 
Flim Flam Man said:
Neutral/chaotic with no win condition. For all the times I have been a "neutral"/chaotic character, if not told I had a separate win condition, I have counted as a villager.

Anyways, I see why people are having trouble believing me, but you are going to lynch a villager seer.
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So, what do you seer? I'm almost certain there is someone else who is a villager seer.
 
lynch Jam as I don't think that FFM should be lynched quite yet (even though at this rate, this won't have any effect in making a tie or anything...)
 
wolfspeaker said:
So, what do you seer? I'm almost certain there is someone else who is a villager seer.
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Role Name.

I am quite certain there are a few villager seers in this game, getting different info or same info at different times. I think the person who got my role name has prob the same abilities as me.
 
thedrjojo said:
FFM pm'd me MY role, introduced himself as Tamara, and explained that they sound fishy but are not a wolf. Now, there are only a few ways he came across that information. If he was a wolf, then they already know my role. If he isn't a wolf, then we just outted a seer.
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Rojo, did FFM PM you your role name or your ROLE?
Looks like FFM is getting lynched anyways, but the clarification would be nice.

Peace out. I'm off to work.
 
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Wah!! Why you kill Henry? I was super excited for this one, too, especially cuz I had such an awesome role. Pooey...GET 'EM VILLAGERS!!!!!
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Current lynch tally:
WS 3 - devyn, Dwin, nohika
Jam 6 - Lupin, dyachei, TRH, rojo, FFM, FantasyFlyer
cuit 0
FFM 13 - EC, SOV, bbeventer, swings, allie, hedgie, wld, Alors, wildcat, WS, LIS, tuckervet, SnS
FantasyFlyer 2 - Minnerbelle, FS
FS 1 - Jam

Waffles: 9

Looking for 5 more votes.

Not looking like we're going to move, but I'll keep it open until the deadline. Give the stragglers one last chance.

Waffles welcome!
 
*****unlynch FFM lynch Jam******
I'm just so uncertain. Ill give one more day if nothing comes to light ill be going back to lynching FFM.
 
Current lynch tally:
WS 3 - devyn, Dwin, nohika
Jam 7 - Lupin, dyachei, TRH, rojo, FFM, FantasyFlyer, Alors
cuit 0
FFM 13 - EC, SOV, bbeventer, swings, allie, hedgie, wld, wildcat, WS, LIS, tuckervet, SnS, Fancy
FantasyFlyer 2 - Minnerbelle, FS
FS 1 - Jam

Waffles: 10

Looking for 4 more votes. Deadline at 6:30 PM EST.

Not looking like we're going to move, but I'll keep it open until the deadline. Give the stragglers one last chance.

Waffles welcome!
 
Voting closed, results pending.

Final lynch tally:
WS 3 - devyn, Dwin, nohika
Jam 7 - Lupin, dyachei, TRH, rojo, FFM, FantasyFlyer, Alors
cuit 0
FFM 14 - EC, SOV, DVMD, bbeventer, swings, allie, hedgie, wld, wildcat, WS, LIS, tuckervet, SnS, Fancy
FantasyFlyer 2 - Minnerbelle, FS
FS 1 - Jam
 
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