Poorly DWWawn Mafia (gamethread)

[kitzsuna]

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I would like actual thoughts on my case even if one find Spurs to be village. It frustrates me to be asked to go in more depth and then have things I work hard on ignored. (Doesn't have to be right now but maybe sometime later today.) I also can't take new information if no one challenges me with counterpoints.

I mean like, your tone makes me a bit nervous but also i think youre village cause thats a whole lot of work to put in if you were a wolf. I respect it

 

[WildZoo]

I'm not the habit of trying to draw attention to myself esp when it is likely to get me yeeted .

Well not stating your reasoning for voting for AM specifically is probably not going to help you much in that regard

 

[WildZoo]

Vote apop

I want it known that I feel kinda gross about this because it's apop, BUT I find the way she's approaching solving so far today to be a pale imitation of last game

@Clem J sorry

 

[WildZoo]

I'M TRYING OKAY

 

[Clem J]

D1

Animal Midwife ( 2 ): squeeb, apop
apoptosis09 ( 2 ): spurs, dubz
fruitsalad ( 1 ): genny
genny ( ):
GoSpursGo ( 2 ): sar, AM
kitzsuna ( ):
potentialsheltervet ( 1 ): fruit
SARdoghandler ( ):
screamqueenbee ( ):
WildZoo ( ):
Sleep ( ):

 

[apoptosis09]

apop, have you come to any conclusions about who in your target list is scummiest? Anyone moved up? Down? Turned themselves around?

Let's hear what you gathered then especially with you operating w/v. What are your worlds in connection with the rest of your POE?

Answering both together:

I want to flip am or spurs primarily. I think one is scum based on pushing and counter-pushing behavior and thread behavior since.

I think if am is scum dubz is a possible pairing, but she's dwarfed the thread so much and we have enough passive players i don't know that I can parse out much for other pairings besides genny until we get a flip. I don't think its a coincidence we have a of of nitpick pushing and few or no village reads.

I think if spurs is scum then he is unpaired with am, and likely dubz. Maybe paired psv. initial energy matched village spurs of last game. Later vibes feel cyo wolfy but could just be reeling from the AM push

Dubz is saying a lot and a little, only real notable interactions with AM and spurs which could be light theater or distancing if one is about to go over. I might've missed village reads somewhere. Notably different from powerwolf!dubz of last game though. This might be my backup option if village spooks off of the others.

Psv is hanging off the edge of my list but possibly paired spurs, unpaired kitz. Could be paired with me. otherwise not the scummiest.

Fruits is also leaning off the list but the flip will inform some unpairings on who he voted earlier (gotta double check). If he flips wolf I'd look at genny but bussing seems less likely in a (probs) 2 wolf game.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I mean like, your tone makes me a bit nervous but also i think youre village cause thats a whole lot of work to put in if you were a wolf. I respect it

It's not about the work specifically. I think my shorter posts are a more meaningful metric of my vibe. I just sometimes longform when I especially desire others feedback.

 

[Clem J]

I'M TRYING OKAY

HAVE YOU CONSIDERED SUCCEEDING INSTEAD?

 

[reddeadrobin]

Well not stating your reasoning for voting for AM specifically is probably not going to help you much in that regard

TBH, nothing I've done it any game has cleared me so 🫠😵‍💫🙃

 

[WildZoo]

HAVE YOU CONSIDERED SUCCEEDING INSTEAD?

THAT'S ASKING A LOT OF ME, CLEMOTHY

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I would like actual thoughts on my case even if one find Spurs to be village. It frustrates me to be asked to go in more depth and then have things I work hard on ignored. (Doesn't have to be right now but maybe sometime later today.) I also can't take new information if no one challenges me with counterpoints.

I do see where you're coming from with your case, however imo:
I don't think the questions asked and answers given necessarily align with the conclusions drawn in your case. From an outsider POV, it feels like there was some goalpost moving when you were asking Spurs questions, and his responses to me give more the vibes of a frustrated villager who's tired of engaging.
I also think a lot of what he's done that is being used to call him wolfy is not necessarily AI for Spurs. Like for p#135 specifically, he spent a ton of last game flopping around nonsense votes for fun.
Or like, for p#311 I don't get the implication that you couldn't discuss the sleep thing. I read it as poking fun at how much it's been coming up.
Nor do I agree that he was exactly panicking about being hammered. Hammer, generally, has been something discussed at length recently before I've given it a passing thought. It just keeps coming up.
I also don't think any of the posts in the "bonus" tier actually have him telling you to village read him for pushing you. At all, in fact. They're him asking how you're reading him and one of the posts mentioned is your own.

 

[apoptosis09]

TBH, nothing I've done it any game has cleared me so 🫠

You can always throw it out there, and even if it gets you yeeted you can brag in dead chat if you're right!

 

[Animal Midwife]

TBH, nothing I've done it any game has cleared me so 🫠

Doing the things I suggested above can make a big difference. Play to get noticed as village, not to hide from the POE. One has you in control, the other leaves you to the passivity of the threadstate.

 

[WildZoo]

TBH, nothing I've done it any game has cleared me so 🫠😵‍💫🙃

I thought you were generally considered okay in Good PWWace? but tbh my memory is...not great

 

[potentialsheltervet]

what made you ping? I hadnt seen a RNG being mentioned in games before if i missed a vote, which is why i just threw a name since i was told it would be bad to do nothing and voting sleep is also frowned upon for village? But since i didnt actually feel like i could make an accurate vote in fruits i unyeeted him

I'm curious what made you pick fruit to throw out as a name, since you did substantiate it somewhat and then try to keep backing it up a bit with continued mentions of his habit of RNGing his vote at the beginning of a game.

 

[WildZoo]

Dubz is saying a lot and a little, only real notable interactions with AM and spurs which could be light theater or distancing if one is about to go over. I might've missed village reads somewhere. Notably different from powerwolf!dubz of last game though. This might be my backup option if village spooks off of the others.

This is totally incongruous with your stated reasons for wanting to vote for people. And it's a bit unclear to me how I could be distancing from people who I've stated I think are village.

Also "notably different from last game but I might vote there anyway"

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Could be paired with me.

This is a crazy thing to say

 

[Animal Midwife]

@fruitsalad What gives? Why'd you stop catching up?

 

[reddeadrobin]

I thought you were generally considered okay in Good PWWace? but tbh my memory is...not great

Not really.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

initial energy matched village spurs of last game

Oh? Then what made you vote there?

 

[WildZoo]

@fruitsalad What gives? Why'd you stop catching up?

He's back

 

[WildZoo]

I have the hmmms to prove it

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I do see where you're coming from with your case, however imo:
I don't think the questions asked and answers given necessarily align with the conclusions drawn in your case. From an outsider POV, it feels like there was some goalpost moving when you were asking Spurs questions, and his responses to me give more the vibes of a frustrated villager who's tired of engaging.
I also think a lot of what he's done that is being used to call him wolfy is not necessarily AI for Spurs. Like for p#135 specifically, he spent a ton of last game flopping around nonsense votes for fun.
Or like, for p#311 I don't get the implication that you couldn't discuss the sleep thing. I read it as poking fun at how much it's been coming up.
Nor do I agree that he was exactly panicking about being hammered. Hammer, generally, has been something discussed at length recently before I've given it a passing thought. It just keeps coming up.
I also don't think any of the posts in the "bonus" tier actually have him telling you to village read him for pushing you. At all, in fact. They're him asking how you're reading him and one of the posts mentioned is your own.

Hopefully this doesn't sound harsh or like a put down. I do appreciate the extensivity of the case and how much work clearly went into it.

 

[WildZoo]

Jesus Christ how many hmms can one person receive.

I need to stop talking so much.

 

[apoptosis09]

This is a crazy thing to say

Look I can't solve the puzzle if I leave out pieces 😅

This is totally incongruous with your stated reasons for wanting to vote for people. And it's a bit unclear to me how I could be distancing from people who I've stated I think are village.

There was a pattern than pinged me with am and spurs discussion. Like you could've been talking yourself through village reading them after a back and forth. Not my top choice still. Am v bad at finding village dubz, and worse at finding w!dubz 🥲

Also "notably different from last game but I might vote there anyway"

I wouldn't expect the same strategy twice if you did luck into scum again! The read is independent.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Hrrrrrrng
I feel very bad given she was the game ending misyeet last game but I fear I'm going to
Yeet apop
Rn
@Clem J em

 

[kitzsuna]

I'm curious what made you pick fruit to throw out as a name, since you did substantiate it somewhat and then try to keep backing it up a bit with continued mentions of his habit of RNGing his vote at the beginning of a game.

Thats just it, i was told by spurs (if im remembering correctly) to throw a vote down in case i wasnt available due to travel plans. I yeeted fruits cause i dont like the random voting he tends to do at the beginning since i tend to pick a vote and not move it, but i acknowledge that this is a personal bias and ive seen village fruits do that before which is why i unyeeted him.

 

[apoptosis09]

Jesus Christ how many hmms can one person receive.

I need to stop talking so much.

No! Post so much even fruits can't keep up with reactions 😃

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I still feel like kitz may be a hit, too.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Thats just it, i was told by spurs (if im remembering correctly) to throw a vote down in case i wasnt available due to travel plans. I yeeted fruits cause i dont like the random voting he tends to do at the beginning since i tend to pick a vote and not move it, but i acknowledge that this is a personal bias and ive seen village fruits do that before which is why i unyeeted him.

Hmm.
How are you feeling now?

 

[apoptosis09]

Oh? Then what made you vote there?

The rest of that paragraph

 

[kitzsuna]

I still feel like kitz may be a hit, too.

Based on a fruit vote????

 

[WildZoo]

There was a pattern than pinged me with am and spurs discussion. Like you could've been talking yourself through village reading them after a back and forth. Not my top choice still. Am v bad at finding village dubz, and worse at finding w!dubz 🥲

Yes...because...I am...trying to evaluate them...??

 

[Clem J]

THAT'S ASKING A LOT OF ME, CLEMOTHY

WITH GREAT MODDING COMES GREAT RESPONSIBILITY

 

[WildZoo]

WITH GREAT MODDING COMES GREAT RESPONSIBILITY

You think I'm a great mod??

 

[apoptosis09]

Yes...because...I am...trying to evaluate them...??

Fair! I'm just working with d1 info that is available and talking through my process. I wouldn't feel like anything atm is a slam dunk gotcha

 

[apoptosis09]

Hrrrrrrng
I feel very bad given she was the game ending misyeet last game but I fear I'm going to
Yeet apop
Rn
@Clem J em

Don't feel bad yet! feel bad later if it loses the game

 

[kitzsuna]

Hmm.
How are you feeling now?

Tired. Just tried to take a nap and failed rip

im feeling like i have been caught up in watching the back and forth between AM and Spurs and havent given too many thoughts about anyone else. Im trying to take into consideration what ive seen from people from other games since ive been in a couple now to try and form more informed thoughts/reasonings besides just vibes

 

[potentialsheltervet]

The rest of that paragraph

I guess I'm just curious what constitutes "earlier" because iirc you voted for him pretty early on

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Based on a fruit vote????

The wording feels funny, but I'm open to reconsiderations.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Wow I just got a whole slew of hmms. I must be super thought provoking.

 

[apoptosis09]

Oho I'm up to three I just realized. Strongly feel we have a wolf on the board with the dark horse wagon.

In which case I will accept the d1 misyeet today if it gets me out of the pool to be used to lose the game on d3.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Squib is being so recalcitrant that I almost want to conclude she's town for it

 

[WildZoo]

Over/under on whether I fall asleep before close

Spoiler

 

[apoptosis09]

I guess I'm just curious what constitutes "earlier" because iirc you voted for him pretty early on

I only voted a couple hours ago? It was pretty late considering the cycle timing.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I only voted a couple hours ago? It was pretty late considering the cycle timing.

Oh. I guess I thought it'd been earlier.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Squib is being so recalcitrant that I almost want to conclude she's town for it

I wish I had your confidence.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Oho I'm up to three I just realized. Strongly feel we have a wolf on the board with the dark horse wagon.

In which case I will accept the d1 misyeet today if it gets me out of the pool to be used to lose the game on d3.

Dark horse?

 

[apoptosis09]

Oh. I guess I thought it'd been earlier.

Technically it was early for me because I had just woken up but I wasnt going to admit that 👀

 

[WildZoo]

Okay I will read the wall now. But if I fall asleep I apologize. It's not you, it's me.