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Ouch. All right guys pack it up I guess it’s already over.
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Black Kat
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What do you think about SAR's vote flip yesterday?
Do you think it might be an alive wolf + msp?
Sorry, my thought process is there's only one left
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She was confused why Zenge was claiming he had a new role after death. She died already at that point. And then flipped with a new role.
It's the two most recent posts in her ISO.
No, I found it. I'm just shook I missed it, though I haven't been on thread a ton with the way this week has gone.
This information has created a huge amount of wifom.
For right now I think I believe AM.
I am willing to move to mkg but I think I want to do some isos around Ms P and PSV's interactions with others. I'm finding it difficult to keep up with the constant role flips.
Here they are.
Then I ended up dying.
The following post summarizes why I was chasing Dubz.
I still don't understand especially seeing as she helped me push MsP into the lead but two fake flips is even more demoralizing so I'm mostly staying in denial.
I think I'm not understanding how "cop result" = wolf. Couldn't a cop result also just tell you they're town?
Technically yes, but look at Clem's (the mod) avatar.
Okay but that's been his avatar for literal years
And he explicitly said ANY role could be any affiliation, no exceptions
I don't think this is the path. But I also don't know if this is the path wolf!AM tries to go down. Ugh
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Based on questions about my own role that I have posed to Clem, and given his answers, I highly doubt there are fake flips in this game without any hints thereof.
To be clear, my role has nothing to do with flips, but I've asked about some ways in which it could be used that would arguably be less bastard than doing fake flips and was told no.
To be clear, my role has nothing to do with flips, but I've asked about some ways in which it could be used that would arguably be less bastard than doing fake flips and was told no.
I don't. I twist myself into knots thinking about it. I'd get it if she thought we were w/w but she outright said that we were incompatible. The vote came after submitting the action. And she never moved or alerted me how to abort my death despite liking my post on MsP reacting weird to Zenge.
I don't know whether the w or v world is more depressing but that's why I've haven't done anything with that flip.
I'm aware. See my most recent post.
She didn't know what her ability did when she targeted you. She found out it kills you after your death
How do you know?
I'm just not sure why you're tied up over possible fake flips when the odds of that being the universe we are in are so low instead of trying to solve the more statistically conventional gamestate
I don't disagree with your point, but what about this gamestate screams "statistically conventional" to you 😂
She told me in our city council PM. She actually thought at first that she had been directed to PSV and maybe her curse was poison
She had a very long, convoluted tinfoil about how that chain of events could then possibly implicate you as a wolf but I disagreed with her premise and it because moot anyway when she figured out that her curse and the poison were two separate mechanisms
Mkg can confirm the conversation took place
Because rae asked. I've already said multiple times I can't do anything about it and that's making me low morale.
Well when compared to a gamestate of multiple fake flips with no clues, it's very conventional! 😂
Okay. That actually hurts even more than multiple people knew.
Then help us find the last wolf in a world where the flips are all real, even if you have to put yourself into a dream state or something to wrap your head around it. If it's not you, we need that big beautiful brain of yours to help us out ❤️
What would have been the benefit to putting that information on thread? I'm really trying to get into your POV here AM and give you the info you need but I'm struggling with understanding what you need from this interaction
I'm trying. The only world where mkg is a wolf, Zenge is also a wolf. I haven't been bothered by kcal's tone. Techno it could be rae but that means letting go of MsP concerns and she's the only one hearing me out. So I'm left with you.
Me not dying? There was nothing bad that was going to happen to her (or good to me) if I guessed correctly. It was literally just guess right or you will die.
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Her role never indicated anywhere that the curse was reversible if someone could guess dubz. Role revealing could open up a valuable role to a targeted kill or then hamstring the curse mechanic to get any other wolves killed. I understand it sucks when you're the one targeted but looking at the overall gamestate, I still think it was more beneficial to hold that information back. Only you know your affiliation so worst case scenario revealing could save a wolf (or two) and lose a powerful town pr. I understand why she didn't out it.
I finally got my fridge cleaned out and I'm about to go do outside labour probably until after close so I need to decide where I'm putting my vote
I hate lategame when I actually try to solve instead of just lulz and vibing 😂
I hate lategame when I actually try to solve instead of just lulz and vibing 😂
Yeet AM
It hurts my heart but I think it's the most likely right now
**ONE MORE VOTE MAKES HAMMER, VOTE RESPONSIBLY
@Clem J @kaydubs @supershorty
It hurts my heart but I think it's the most likely right now
**ONE MORE VOTE MAKES HAMMER, VOTE RESPONSIBLY
@Clem J @kaydubs @supershorty
If AM is a bomb and I go down with the ship sobeit
I don't understand why my result had so much more information that her own role.
Again though, it's not her choosing me that bothers me. It's agreeing with me every step of the way up until EOD on MsP and still risking something bad happening to me.
I was the first target so she could have been discreet (even before I asked if she wanted) about me getting an out. I was discreet about real!Dubz.
Still, as much as this bothers me, I can acknowledge there is a chance, no matter how small, that she genuinely had no problem with the risk of incompatible people flipping at the same time, and figured my life was overall less valuable, due to how many games have occurred since the noob one.
My primary problem is still MsP. Her first game was seven years ago. She's my manatee. I remember everything about her. But no matter how much I point out she was outside her village meta or that she was showing incongruency with village mech, the boils down to a WIFOM argument that, unfortunately, has led to the current situation.
Day 3 Vote Tally
mkg (1) - kcalb
AM (3) - mkg, Zenge, SAR
SAR (1) - AM
5/6
Missing: rae
Vote ends at 3pm Pacific (6pm Eastern) TODAY (~4 hours)
mkg (1) - kcalb
AM (3) - mkg, Zenge, SAR
SAR (1) - AM
5/6
Missing: rae
Vote ends at 3pm Pacific (6pm Eastern) TODAY (~4 hours)
Nobody knows what a bomb is anymore. SDN has been too flippant with role descriptions.
Black Kat
Im smol
Never played with a bomb like that omg
That's like the standard. What have you been using?
But yeah, I was hoping to bait a kill by saying all those things to Spurs and either nothing happened or I didn't get notified it activated. Both suck.
Black Kat
Im smol
EIther everyone that votes or the last person to vote the bomb dies
Although I haven't seen that many bombs in the games I participated in historically(?)
That would be a vengeful or supersaint, respectively.
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supershorty
Don't look so vexed, toots.
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ok consider voting closed but idk if Clem's around and I'm at work and not in a spot where I can do close close sooooooooooooooo
behave yourselves
behave yourselves
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If I lock the thread, then Clem won't be able to post in it lol so
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Day 3 Vote FINAL Tally
mkg (1) - kcalb
AM (4) - mkg, Zenge, SAR, rae
SAR (1) - AM
6/6
mkg (1) - kcalb
AM (4) - mkg, Zenge, SAR, rae
SAR (1) - AM
6/6
