Law: This dog bit a person and is showing symptoms of rabies. You need to euthanize.
Really though, did the rescue think that would actually work? Have they never bothered to look at the rabies laws in their own state?
THIS. Before vet school when I was working as a tech I talked to a woman on the phone whose daughter was bit by a bat. The bat was not available for testing cause it vamoosed after biting her. The woman didn't want her daughter to have to go through all the vaccines so she was like "why can't we just test for rabies" I was like well we have to have the bat to do that and she was like "no, test my daughter for rabies" **FACEPALM**
Let me tell you about rescues. They’re great until they can capitalize on anything. Because they usually don’t have a lot of money, they try to figure out how they can get financial support and can do it in sleazy ways. The operator of a rescue we work with tried to blame me for stepping on a cat because during an exam I said that a different cat was underfoot in order to get us to do x-rays for a cat. Joke’s on her though, I used that as an example of a time when I was misquoted or misunderstood for my Penn interview.
This is a gross generalization of rescues as a whole. Yes, there are some pretty terrible people in rescues looking to exploit a situation—but you find that anywhere. Rescues are not out to capitalize.
I should’ve qualified what I said. Most rescues are fine a majority of the time and really are doing a good thing. Even the rescues that do what this rescue did are still trying to do a good thing. However, there are often people in rescues that do things to cut corners, save money, and really piss off veterinarians and staff. Things like pooling blood for FeLV/FIV tests are pretty common. Even despite telling rescuers that this isn’t good medical practice, they still say it’s a risk they’re willing to take.
I mostly agree with this but someone who I believe works at this hospital posted on another group I am in that that particular rescue has made a statement like "you have to keep this dog alive no matter what because its bringing in so many donations"... I have no clue if that was with regards to this or another dog but I do think this is something some of the sketchy rescues do. It is definitely something one of the local rescues near me does (the owner/founder of THAT rescue also breeds rescued frenchies but that's a whole other issue). But I agree for the most part this scenario seems mostly driven on emotion and misunderstanding and a refusal to TRY to understand.
If that’s true, then it’s still the person in charge that’s terrible and looking to exploit, not everyone involved in the rescue or rescues as a whole.
I fully acknowledged that you can find terrible people in rescues. My issue was with condemning rescues as a whole, and saying they’re out to exploit situations for money. That’s really unfair and a very black and white way to view them.
This is a way different situation that was described above, and not at all what was being referred to. Yes, rescues need to raise money. But raising money in legit ways is way different than trying to claim rescues are going to look for any little sleazy thing to get money out of.
An unfortunately common experience I've had with quite a few rescuers and/or rescues. I seem to constantly have to have conversations with rescues about quality of life (no, having a life is not the same thing as having a good life), how a sad backstory isn't going to make the animal easier to treat/rehabilitate, that being able to get an animal to lick your face because you put peanut butter on your cheek does not mean the animal is no longer an aggressive/reactive animal, that keeping an animal in a shelter for 8 years is simply not humane, etc etc
But that's what I got into at the end - ending up with a news-worthy animal is a big deal for a rescue. It doesn't sound like to me they are trying to make money off the dog's death.
Yup, I agree and it is very often the narcissists/dreadful humans that get the power trip from running or being the face of a rescue that get a whole bunch of genuine, do-gooders behind them. So usually its worth it to have a horrible front man because the end result is good. But when it goes to this extreme of tearing down vets, impacting income, and ruining careers it just disgusts me. I mean this specific one is already selling FREAKIN T-SHIRTS with the dogs face on them! In a way its brilliant that they're capitalizing on this but they're stomping on the mental health of many in the veterinary field to do so.
They definitely are... they are already selling t-shirts with her face on it and "Justice for Faust".
yikes
Ok, that's definitely no bueno, and possibly a sign they're looking to get an attorney involved.
Agree that the people in charge of this rescues actions are completely horrible and disgusting. They’re actively encouraging bullying of the clinic and AC. I hope the clinic and AC look into what legal action they can take against the rescue, because it’s just going to keep getting worse.
I doubt it.... it is a money grab I have seen many times from rescue before. It is even something I have seen that super sketchy rescue near me do after they euthanized a dog they should have never rescued with a bite record who was blind and just terrified of everything and therefore bit everything. He lived in terror at every moment of his life and when he finally was euthanized they tried to blame the trainer "that failed him" and made "Justice For" t-shirts and sell full calendars of photos of him, etc. I hate it so much.
This is an excellent way of putting it. That is exactly how I feel, scooped out, gutted. I am feeling so raw and hollow over this and I don't even personally know any of the vets impacted!
Oh are you in shelter med?? Why do the rescuers have your euthanasia list?
I have worked in shelter med for about six years now. It's not our true euthanasia list, it's a list of urgent animals that will be euthanized if not pulled by a rescue that is sent to all of our rescue contacts for our organization. Someone not particularly thoughtful called it the euthanasia list years ago (because that's basically what they used to email out, with no commentary or editing for animals that weren't pullable by rescues). Now it's much more of an Urgent/Rescue Needed list, but people still call it the EU List and go wild about it all the time.
The only person I know who is poor and runs a “rescue” is actually part of an organization that is classified by the FBI as a terrorist organization. If you thought PETA was bad, you should see her organization.
You’re correct in that that’s what she’s doing. And she doesn’t claim to be a part of them. We did some digging on her and found out she’s a part of them. I won’t say the name of the organization, but it’s acronym is the same as an extra-terrestrial puppet from a tv show in the 80’s.
We've had to do mass confiscations from "rescues" like this in the past. It's a common enough presentation of hoarding to be listed in its own category
Couldn't agree more. I have experiences with everything from publicly funded open intake shelters to itty bitty rescues that are not even 501c3. The by far worst have seemed to be the rescues that are not brick-and-mortar (i.e. all foster based) but ARE 501c3. Like that makes them just legit enough that people want to and are willing to give them money but there is literally almost zero oversight.
I actually know a really great all foster based rescue for older dogs, and shelters commonly contact them when older dogs are surrendered to have them take because they have such a great reputation, but I agree that set up is usually not ideal. This rescue also makes it clear that they do euthanize dogs where it’s the best choice for their quality of life and don’t pull heroics. It think it’s the rescues that always try to be the hero that tend to be the issue.
You may misunderstand me. I'm not saying all rescues that fall under that description are bad. I'd say many if not most are good and do good and want to do good. That just happens to be there I see the most narcissist, power hungry, money grabbers be able to hide as compared to other styles of rescue. I mean basically all breed rescues tend to fall into this category and I have problems with very few breed specific rescues, they tend to be great amongst foster-only rescue models. (I even have my own weim rescue foster lady on the couch next to me right now 🙂 )
As I understand it, she was removed and taken to animal control prior to euthanasia.
I was just taking it as an opportunity to make a crappy joke. I mean personally I think the joke was pretty good but that’s for everyone else to decide.
Well there’s where you made a big mistake. I rely solely on my metabolism to keep me in shape. A healthy amount of stress and anxiety are good replacements for exercise.
Except high cortisol increases fat deposition...
Yea but if the anxiety also decreases appetite then I rely almost entirely on gluconeogenesis. It’s a self-limiting problem.
Tell me this again in a year once you’re done with first year 😛
For some reason I get stress hyporexia instead of that need to binge eat. That coupled with buying food using student loans will probably end up with me looking like daddy long neck.
