Why do people think so lowly of Loma Linda?

[Xenoblade]

Why do people not like Loma Linda so much? Am I missing something? Does it have a bad reputation?
There are so many pros:
- California medical school
- great opportunity to shadow specialists
- great step 1 scores
- great residency placements
- amazing opportunities to work in other countries
- etc. etc. etc.
Is it the Christian thing? SDA thing? No alcohol/sex?
I just don't understand.

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[histidine]

Contrary to what Dunkin Donuts tells us, most of America runs on sex and booze.

 

[Gotmedical]

I'm pretty sure it's the religious thing... I mean, the university has a creationist center... -.- (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoscience_Research_Institute)

That being said, they are LCME Accredited so they must do some sort of real science in the medical school....

 

[rfvbnmju]

Most of the docs that are in the this medical clinic I volunteer at did their residency at Loma Linda.. They are fine doctors.

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[QuinnTheEskimo]

It's the religion thing. Are they even allowed to prescribe oral contraceptives to patients?

 

[vfom]

Honestly, I agree with ^; it's the restrictions that they put on students. I didn't apply there myself for similar reasons.

From what I've heard It's a great school though. I've met multiple doctors that have done their residencies or currently hold positions at the school. I've had a beer with one of them...so being at the school does not necessarily stop you from being a person. They also do a lot of international outreach.

However, this is what I've heard/read as far as the negatives: they have the authority to search your property for alcohol/drugs; caffeine is not allowed on campus; food is (almost?) entirely vegetarian on campus. The school and everything around is closed on Saturdays for religious reasons...even mail is delivered in the area on Sundays for that reason.

CORRECTION:
Coffee is not sold in the cafeteria, but you can bring your own🙂

 

[kittykattat]

Honestly, I agree with ^; it's the restrictions that they put on students. I didn't apply there myself for similar reasons.

From what I've heard It's a great school though. I've met multiple doctors that have done their residencies or currently hold positions at the school. I've had a beer with one of them...so being at the school does not necessarily stop you from being a person. They also do a lot of international outreach.

However, this is what I've heard/read as far as the negatives: they have the authority to search your property for alcohol/drugs; caffeine is not allowed on campus; food is (almost?) entirely vegetarian on campus. The school and everything around is closed on Saturdays for religious reasons...even mail is delivered in the area on Sundays for that reason.

No caffeine?!?! I could not.

 

[CarlosDanger]

Part of it is the religious thing, which is a little overblown in my opinion, although if what VFOM says is actually true, that would suck.

The other part is that many people on SDN generally look down on private schools not in the top 40-50 of US News rankings.

 

[Xenoblade]

Honestly, I agree with ^; it's the restrictions that they put on students. I didn't apply there myself for similar reasons.

From what I've heard It's a great school though. I've met multiple doctors that have done their residencies or currently hold positions at the school. I've had a beer with one of them...so being at the school does not necessarily stop you from being a person. They also do a lot of international outreach.

However, this is what I've heard/read as far as the negatives: they have the authority to search your property for alcohol/drugs; caffeine is not allowed on campus; food is (almost?) entirely vegetarian on campus. The school and everything around is closed on Saturdays for religious reasons...even mail is delivered in the area on Sundays for that reason.

FYI: No one can search your house without a warrant or your permission in California.

Source: Multiple lawyers who have passed the CA state bar.

 

[Syndicate]

When applying, I avoided schools that make a certain race, religion, ethnic group, etc a central part of who they are and have an over representation of these groups in their medical school

 

[IlDestriero]

1. Horrible location.
2. Hokey religion.
3. Limitations related to above.
4. Concern about being an outsider in the epicenter of a cultish organization.
I would never go there for school, training, or a job.
However, I would probably have a better cholesterol level if I had lunch in their cafeteria instead of mine, and vegetarian food can be quite good when done properly, and they should be experts.
Maybe I would go there for lunch.

 

[vfom]

FYI: No one can search your house without a warrant or your permission in California.

Source: Multiple lawyers who have passed the CA state bar.

I was only trying to help.
I am no lawyer, and haven't researched the legality of the situation. However, I have read about this when considering attending the school.

According to their website:

Alcohol and drug prevention policy
Loma Linda University is committed to providing an educational environment which is conductive to the development of every student. Because the University believes that a lifestyle that is drug and alcohol free is essential for achieving this goal, it has established a policy that seeks to maintain a campus environment free of these substances (LLU Operating Policy I-12).

In compliance with the Drug-Free Workplace Act of 1988, the University prohibits the unlawful use, possession, distribution, dispensing, or manufacture of controlled substances by its students and employees. Further, the University requires any individual who receives federal funding to certify that they will not engage in the unlawful use, possession, distribution, dispensing, or manufacture of controlled substances while associated with the University.

The University reserves the right to investigate violations of the policy by students, employees, or faculty where reasonable suspicion exists. This includes the right to search an office, locker, vehicle, resident hall room, briefcase, book bag, or handbag, and the right to require an appropriate test, and or confirmation by re-test.

No search will be made without the authorization of the residence hall director, dean of a School, vice president, or president of the University. Any search or required testing is to be treated with high confidentiality.

Link: (http://lomalindahealth.org/medical-center/our-services/security/resources/alcohol.page)

Also correction to previous post:
Coffee is not sold in the cafeteria, but you can bring your own🙂

 

[mTORC]

religion-based medicine

 

[rfvbnmju]

religion-based medicine

Liberty (DO) is much worse....

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[Xenoblade]

I was only trying to help.
I am no lawyer, and haven't researched the legality of the situation. However, I have read about this when considering attending the school.

According to their website:

Alcohol and drug prevention policy
Loma Linda University is committed to providing an educational environment which is conductive to the development of every student. Because the University believes that a lifestyle that is drug and alcohol free is essential for achieving this goal, it has established a policy that seeks to maintain a campus environment free of these substances (LLU Operating Policy I-12).

In compliance with the Drug-Free Workplace Act of 1988, the University prohibits the unlawful use, possession, distribution, dispensing, or manufacture of controlled substances by its students and employees. Further, the University requires any individual who receives federal funding to certify that they will not engage in the unlawful use, possession, distribution, dispensing, or manufacture of controlled substances while associated with the University.

The University reserves the right to investigate violations of the policy by students, employees, or faculty where reasonable suspicion exists. This includes the right to search an office, locker, vehicle, resident hall room, briefcase, book bag, or handbag, and the right to require an appropriate test, and or confirmation by re-test.

No search will be made without the authorization of the residence hall director, dean of a School, vice president, or president of the University. Any search or required testing is to be treated with high confidentiality.

Link: (http://lomalindahealth.org/medical-center/our-services/security/resources/alcohol.page)

Also correction to previous post:
Coffee is not sold in the cafeteria, but you can bring your own🙂

Right. All dormitories that I have lived in has this right too. In order to for them to exercise that right, they first have to:
A) Get your approval to come in. All you have to do is say no and shut the door in their face.
B) Get a warrant.

If they give you 24 hour notice to step into your room to "do maintenance" and they discover drugs, then they can report you and etc.

If you live in a private residence, then LLU has no right to step onto the property to search you.

State Laws trump school policies. Know the law and your rights.

 

[Omppu27]

Liberty (DO) is much worse....

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And the medical school was partially (like half) funded by the Virginia Tobacco Commission...