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LeMastitisNow
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Oh hell yes. Another first-lynch wolf kill. I love it.

I also love how all you people think I wouldn't goof up night/day - I am the player that routinely forgets to check PMs for a few days. C'mon people - I am so much less on top of this **** than you all think.

In regards to the person I was PM'ing temporarily, here is the response I sent (and then deleted) before I saw my mod PM saying the PM'ing was done.

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That seems like a super odd question.

And I'm always annoyed when people mine me for data without giving me anything in return.

This time I'll let it go - yes, [edited, but the answer to your question is yes]

Next time - come bringing info before you expect an answer.
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Although I'm still amused at how y'all think I'd be soooooo on top of it that I might not get mixed up being night/day, forget where we're at in the game, etc.

I play this game on autopilot, people.

Kinda like I ER vet ****.
 
Lynch Pippy

Why sign up for a game when you can only half commit? Seems like it could be a wolf cover-up.

Would still like to hear from Stella and Snowy, lurking wolves?
This is an extremely stupid reason. Pippy half committed is still better than 95% of the noob group that I was a part of, including me. I am also half committed, I have an anatomy practical tomorrow morning, which is incidentally why I'm pretty sure I missed lynch close, who died? Don't worry, I'll find out.
 
This is an extremely stupid reason. Pippy half committed is still better than 95% of the noob group that I was a part of, including me. I am also half committed, I have an anatomy practical tomorrow morning, which is incidentally why I'm pretty sure I missed lynch close, who died? Don't worry, I'll find out.

Pssssst. Youngkal was a wolf and is dead. And I get credit for another D1 kill. Rawr.
 
This is an extremely stupid reason. Pippy half committed is still better than 95% of the noob group that I was a part of, including me. I am also half committed, I have an anatomy practical tomorrow morning, which is incidentally why I'm pretty sure I missed lynch close, who died? Don't worry, I'll find out.
Ouch, coop. I know anatomy sucks, but plz don't take it out on the noobs (or yourself, for that matter 😉 )
 
Yeah you're not missing anything here. Cray was being cray which could mean anything really and coop I'm not sure yet... still waiting on their follow up from last night to evaluate day sketchiness.
I see from Dubz post earlier that my vote was misplaced, and was an inside joke that I was not included on 😛. But no for realz one game I was a wolf, got my wolf PM and thought the game had started, but no one else had gotten their roles yet and they lynched me for it. That's why I voted for you.
 
Oh, also would like to hear more from @WeimMama tomorrow, por favor.

Weim chose to lynch stella and then YK called out stella as someone who she thought was sketchy for being MIA. So, similar concern there with overlapping targets.
I literally had zero reason to vote her other than her not talking all day. It was between her and snowy and I've played with snowy before a few times so I figured I'd poke the one I have absolutely zero frame of reference for.
 
I see from Dubz post earlier that my vote was misplaced, and was an inside joke that I was not included on 😛. But no for realz one game I was a wolf, got my wolf PM and thought the game had started, but no one else had gotten their roles yet and they lynched me for it. That's why I voted for you.
Yeah I was legit confused when you were talking about you being a wolf and doing the same thing I was like what's even happening lol
 
I see from Dubz post earlier that my vote was misplaced, and was an inside joke that I was not included on 😛. But no for realz one game I was a wolf, got my wolf PM and thought the game had started, but no one else had gotten their roles yet and they lynched me for it. That's why I voted for you.
lol I was talking about the circus game and our noob game not these new noobs. I thought I made that clear, oops 😳. In other news I see youngkal was a wolf, and I was responding to dead people. and then LIS of all people is mocking me for speaking to the dead 😛
 
I'm just playing with you.

Anyway, we all know the reason for my lynch was as weak as it gets, so it's not like the credit really means much.
I just like the idea that you were Idiot Savanting and thought you were doing some Secret Agent Man stuff, all in the same 24 hour period.

Is LIS the new STL??? 😱
 
I just like the idea that you were Idiot Savanting and thought you were doing some Secret Agent Man stuff, all in the same 24 hour period.

Is LIS the new STL??? 😱

Oh hell no, you did NOT just do that.

I was STL'ing before STL was a twinkle in his mama's eye.
 
:hungover: I am properly chastised. After the practical tomorrow, I can be more active and actually go back and see why Youngkal flipping wolf puts Allie in the hot seat.

Honestly, I think it's a stretch. I have to go back and read it myself. If it was Allie following Youngkal's lead, I'm going to change my vote because Allie wouldn't pull that dumb of a move, especially early in the game where there's no real point. But if it was Youngkal following Allie's lead ... could totally see it being a n00b mistake and I'll probably leave my vote on Allie if that's the case.
 
Honestly, I think it's a stretch. I have to go back and read it myself. If it was Allie following Youngkal's lead, I'm going to change my vote because Allie wouldn't pull that dumb of a move, especially early in the game where there's no real point. But if it was Youngkal following Allie's lead ... could totally see it being a n00b mistake and I'll probably leave my vote on Allie if that's the case.
So I iso’d Allie and Kal’s posts together to get a good timeline of who voted for whom, when. All times are in MST because I can’t be bothered to switch right now.

Kal was the first of the two of them to place a lynch vote at 6:58pm, a little more than an hour before lynch close. She voted to lynch Pippy due to her thinking Pippy’s claim to only half-commit was a wolf cover-up. Three minutes later, Allie votes to lynch LIS; one of her reasons is that she doesn’t like his vote against Kal. Six minutes later, Kal replies to Allie and says:
I agree he posted right after someone mentioned that it was night and it needed to be a contingent vote. LIS you are on my watch list. Maybe ill be making waffles here
Could be going along with a fellow wolf, like you said.

At 7:54pm, six minutes to lynch close, Kal unlynches Pippy but she doesn’t lynch LIS until a full five minutes later, one minute to close.

Also, Pippy accused Allie and Kal of cross-liking, to which Allie basically responded with a ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I don't even know to watch out for things like liking each other's posts. I can't even remember what posts I've liked in this thread lol Whatever, I understand your comment earlier about it looking like I was trying to get attention off of Kal and if that's why you want to lynch me then fine. But I think the whole placing a lynch vote based on likes is stupid.
So I’m gonna
contingency lynch Allie
…and it’s not based (solely) on likes.
 
So I iso’d Allie and Kal’s posts together to get a good timeline of who voted for whom, when. All times are in MST because I can’t be bothered to switch right now.

Kal was the first of the two of them to place a lynch vote at 6:58pm, a little more than an hour before lynch close. She voted to lynch Pippy due to her thinking Pippy’s claim to only half-commit was a wolf cover-up. Three minutes later, Allie votes to lynch LIS; one of her reasons is that she doesn’t like his vote against Kal. Six minutes later, Kal replies to Allie and says:

Could be going along with a fellow wolf, like you said.

At 7:54pm, six minutes to lynch close, Kal unlynches Pippy but she doesn’t lynch LIS until a full five minutes later, one minute to close.

Also, Pippy accused Allie and Kal of cross-liking, to which Allie basically responded with a ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

So I’m gonna
contingency lynch Allie
…and it’s not based (solely) on likes.
Meh, LIS didn't have great reasons (I think he said that already) so I mean it's not entirely wolfy that Allie didn't like his reasoning. I really need to read what actually happened before placing a lynch vote this time.
 
why are you singling out genny and allieh? or did I miss that they are the only ones who haven't checked in yet? Aren't there others? So, why?

Youngkal liked this post of mine. I wasn't trying to defend them, I was mostly challenging Pippy. However, I wouldn't put it past a noob wolf to like a post that seems to take some heat off their buddies.

Just food for thought. I know people say not to look at likes, but in my experience, from the right liker under the right conditions, they can be unintentional clues.
 
Heyo. Sorry I was MIA today... work was crazy and I didn't have time to check in. Will read through the thread tomorrow and give my thoughts, but don't expect anything until the afternoon because I just got home now.
 
It is.
Because it could also be someone who played the Baking game. It could be someone who played neither but knew that killing AM would point towards a player in one or both of those games. Or even someone who played neither but just looked at who lived long recently. It could be a combination of these people within the same pack, even!

As you said though, d1.

In the interest of not widening the field...

lynch allie

I considered AM a bad N1 kill for wolves because she's generally quietish and sketchy, so if the pack wasn't taking into consideration being considerate or something into their choice of kill, it doesn't make so much sense to me. However, as villager, her participation is putting people under the microscope with 20 questions.

So there's a chance she was killed to get a valuable villager out of the way, but given the fact she can be wolf distraction 2/2 sketch factor, wouldn't be my first choice. So that is where I draw a conclusion that perhaps it was related to that last game.

Eh, no point, just pontificating about wolf choices.
 
Just caught up. Some thoughts.

I'm a bit confused as to what happened in the night cycle discussion. I read Mixy's vote on me as a joke because I was wrong about her being a wolf in the past two games in a row. But I'm lost by Cray's responses to that and her followup N1 reads (even though many players weren't available). I appreciate Cray's desire for me to play longer in the game as I died too early in past two games, but I'm not following her reasoning of Mixy's joke vote being a wolfy move. I'm also confused by Coop's followup agreement with Cray's reasoning and even going far to also vote Mixy.

I just thought Mixy's vote was meant to be a joke and nothing more than that. The arguments that Mixy's move was wolfy because she placed a vote before getting her role seemed to be assuming a lot more. I'm not sure what I'm missing so clarification would help.

Regarding the AM nightkill, the wolves could be familiar with past games and killed her based on that. Or it could be a random kill.

I'm also confused by the votes on kal. Are they pressure? All I saw were just joke posts from kal being drunk, but I'm not sure how these posts are wolfy.

Continuing with the pressure, I'm probably going with this:

lynch capri1722

Would like to see more posts from her.

It's not wolfy to vote before your role.

There is no value to pre-game declarations of busy-ness or votes. It will not help players know if you are villager in the future. It could only help a wolf try to hide in the future.

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Can you feel that?

The fact that someone said, before they got their role, that they would vote for someone, tells you nothing of affiliation when they start. It is not a defense.

I did not initially believe MA's defense that she did not have her role when she placed her vote. Many wolves will try to make their D1 throwaway vote appear innocuous by being the one they discussed making before. So that was not a defense.

Noob wolves will absolutely jump on the thread right away with a jokey vote, because they want to appear "original" in the placing of their vote, so that if a hoped-for wagon starts, they can more easily distance themselves from the death. They like to appear active and helpful and enthusiastic by the early jump on the thread.

Greeny did this, Coopah did this, and I did this, as noob wolves. You have 3 solid examples of this behavior and an explained psychological rationale. Why is this so hard?

MA may not have overexplained herself relative to other players, but in the context of the timing, most of all, plus the rest I have beaten to death, it seemed suspicious.

I am backing off of this because I am inclined to believe that she did not have her role. That doesn't mean she isn't a wolf, but it does mean this wasn't a wolf move. I am inclined to believe her based on WZ backing her up, the mod's like of her post, all together. Plus I liked her defense aside from where I said I didn't like it.
 
It's not wolfy to vote before your role.

There is no value to pre-game declarations of busy-ness or votes. It will not help players know if you are villager in the future. It could only help a wolf try to hide in the future.

ridley-hamill-last-jedi-trailer-ht-jef-171121_12x5_992.jpg

Can you feel that?

The fact that someone said, before they got their role, that they would vote for someone, tells you nothing of affiliation when they start. It is not a defense.

I did not initially believe MA's defense that she did not have her role when she placed her vote. Many wolves will try to make their D1 throwaway vote appear innocuous by being the one they discussed making before. So that was not a defense.

Noob wolves will absolutely jump on the thread right away with a jokey vote, because they want to appear "original" in the placing of their vote, so that if a hoped-for wagon starts, they can more easily distance themselves from the death. They like to appear active and helpful and enthusiastic by the early jump on the thread.

Greeny did this, Coopah did this, and I did this, as noob wolves. You have 3 solid examples of this behavior and an explained psychological rationale. Why is this so hard?

MA may not have overexplained herself relative to other players, but in the context of the timing, most of all, plus the rest I have beaten to death, it seemed suspicious.

I am backing off of this because I am inclined to believe that she did not have her role. That doesn't mean she isn't a wolf, but it does mean this wasn't a wolf move. I am inclined to believe her based on WZ backing her up, the mod's like of her post, all together. Plus I liked her defense aside from where I said I didn't like it.
Mixalot's reactions yesterday did not strike me as wolfy. I've now seen her as village and as a converted wolf, and I feel like she is leaning village.
I can have blind spots for new players, particularly ones who i have mentored, so take that for what you will.

Incidently I have you leaning village as well, based on you revising your reads and also youngkal's comments to you on N1.
 
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