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No, I have Dr. Satran. Seems like he has been around for quite a while.
2009-2010 University of Minnesota (Twin Cities) Application Thread
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No, I have Dr. Satran. Seems like he has been around for quite a while.
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Minnesota women are born with homing signals in their brains. We always want to go home ;0)
As the previous poster said, after your status page is marked complete all of your updates will be via e-mail or phone. Be patient--it takes them awhile to do anything 😉
I forget the exact figure but the vast majority of people die within 50 miles of the place they were born.
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what exactly does it mean to be nominated for the "you are out of state we will give you instate tuition" scholarship. Do they nominate all out of state students or does this mean there really is a chance of getting this?
Maybe this was already mentioned deep in the middle of the thread but either the prompt changed for the secondary or someone keyed it in wrong but question three is not the same as the first page of this thread.
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Here is what I got for Q3:
3. Our medical school is committed to enrolling and graduating a diverse student body. The Admissions Committee considers the following: high academic potential, disadvantaged background, race and ethnicity, evidence of outstanding leadership, creativity, unique work or service experience, community involvement, non-traditional educational progression, and demonstrated commitment to working with diverse populations.
Please explain how you have demonstrated a commitment to diversity and/or working with diverse populations.
Limit responses to 250 words.
3. Our medical school is committed to enrolling and graduating a diverse student body. The Admissions Committee considers the following: high academic potential, disadvantaged background, race and ethnicity, evidence of outstanding leadership, creativity, unique work or service experience, community involvement, non-traditional educational progression, and demonstrated commitment to working with diverse populations.
Please explain how you have demonstrated a commitment to diversity and/or working with diverse populations.
Limit responses to 250 words.
Very interesting. They changed it now. It's the same setup text for paragraph one but the question at the end is different.
I wonder if they were trying to catch people doing the secondary in advance and just pasting it in.
I wonder if they were trying to catch people doing the secondary in advance and just pasting it in.
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Yep, and I answered the old question for this years. Didn't notice it until I was going over my secondary before my interview. Oops. Hopefully it won't make too much of a difference.
Adcom: Well, Mr. Housefish seems like a great candidate and I think we should accep....Wait a minute, what's this?! He didn't answer question 3!!
[Giant rejection stamp]
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think one was about explaining how you would contribute to the diversity of their class, and the other one wants you to talk about how you've demonstrated a commitment to diversity. So theoretically one's response could work for either, as long as you didn't respond with a verbatim "I think I have demonstrated a commitment to diversity by doing XYZ..."
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Yeah, I pretty much wrote this verbatim in mine and still got an interview. Just goes to show that the secondary essays probably don't hold too much weight in the grand scheme of things.
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Not yet, I had my interview in late September and am still waiting! Getting a little ansy! Anyone else heard?
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what exactly is the time frame? i interviewed in late late october and if i remember correctly he told us that we would hear back no later than christmas time. he also said that we could potentially hear back around thanksgiving. it doesnt seem like many have heard decisions post-interview. hopefully there is a mass decision notification coming soon....
The time frame is supposedly "4-6 weeks" as that is what was quoted on interview day for most people. For some reason they aren't even trying to hit that time frame.
If you want to get depressed go and read the last two years threads about U of MN. Each time they were super late is sending out decisions. 🙁
If you want to get depressed go and read the last two years threads about U of MN. Each time they were super late is sending out decisions. 🙁
what exactly is the time frame? i interviewed in late late october and if i remember correctly he told us that we would hear back no later than christmas time. he also said that we could potentially hear back around thanksgiving. it doesnt seem like many have heard decisions post-interview. hopefully there is a mass decision notification coming soon....
Haha, no, I think he told us the same thing. The "time frame" is completely in my head, based on the fact that waiting is lame and I hope it doesn't go on much longer. 😳
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I know someone from MN that interviewed on November 8 and was accepted already...
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Is it common for a medical student to be the one interviewing you?
Imhopeful123, there were only a couple of people interviewed by students in my group, but all the students doing the interviewing are members of the admissions committee. Our tour guide told us that the U of MN has kind of been experimenting lately to find the best system for interviews. They really wanted current med students to be involved somehow, but didn't have enough students to have each interviewee meet with a prof AND a student, so now you either get one or the other. On the plus side, the med student interviewing on my day was very friendly and the interviews were pretty relaxed. Hope that helps!
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Yes. I interviewed with a very pleasant M4 who sits on the admissions committee. The Associate Dean of Admissions said the M4's have the same influence as a faculty member on the committee.
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What types of questions did your M4 ask you? Was it an open-file interview?
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They had access to my personal statement and activities list, but it appeared they didn't have any additional info in front of them.
The questions I received were, from what I gathered, meant to probe the weakest part of my application (which for me is direct clinical experience...I've done a lot of shadowing in different specialties but not any EMT work or "hands on" experience). For example, the MS4 asked me if any cases I saw while shadowing stood out in particular, one for the "good" side of medicine and one for the "bad" side of medicine, and if I thought the physician had dealt with the situation in the best possible manner.
Besides this, questions were generally pretty straightforward, such as asking for my underlying motivation of certain activities.
My interviewer really tried to put me at ease, and overall I had a great time!👍
I interviewed 11/04 and have heard nothing back yet...
Do they have a student host program here? Also, what time does the interview day start and end? I'm excited to be an OOS interviewee here since they offer so few. Are the 177 OOS interviewees numbers still accurate?
Good luck to all of u!
Good luck to all of u!
Interviewed 10/15ish and nada. Unbelievably slow, considering it's been over 6 weeks. What's the deal Paul T. White???
that: what's up MN?
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Interviewed 10/15ish and nada. Unbelievably slow, considering it's been over 6 weeks. What's the deal Paul T. White???
This is a trend I have found with ALL departments at the U of MN.
...I was hoping it was just in the undergrad programs...guess not
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Hey guys, if it gives you any idea, I interviewed 10/9 and they decided on my file last Thursday. I should hear tomorrow or Tuesday. Just call and they will usually be helpful.
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Did they tell you that they decided on your file when you called? They told me that I was under "final review."
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Well I called on Thursday and they said my file had been "decided on" and the votes "needed to be tabulated". I think that means he knew right there and then if I was accepted or not, but wouldn't tell me.
If they tell you that you are under "final review", ask when it would be reviewd. At least that worked for me.
If they tell you that you are under "final review", ask when it would be reviewd. At least that worked for me.
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The lady who spoke with me told me that it'd be "a couple of weeks" when I spoke with her on Thursday, so I don't know if that was just her estimate or how much further down the line I am. I'm hesitant to call so soon after that to ask about when my review is for fear of being unnecessarily troublesome. Ugh...waiting is nervewracking.
When did you interview?
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Oct. 12- sorry, thought I'd written that up there somewhere.
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I interviewed October 8th. I called today and was told my file had "gone to the committee and I should hear sometime this week". Does that mean that I should be receiving a letter sometime this week? Or is there still the chance of me getting the all important phone call?
Interview invite today. For those of you who think MN is being slow or whatever, they got back to me faster than my state school...which still hasn't given me any information. And I filled out MN's secondary at least two weeks later than my state school's.
This process makes so much sense 🙄
This process makes so much sense 🙄
What's your state school? I can say that MN has been by far the slowest of all the schools I have applied to. It's embarrassingly slow, considering they aren't abiding by the guidelines they provide us (4-6 weeks post interview). There is just a ton of bureaucracy and cost pressures at the U right now ... sucks having a GOP governor with a large public university!
I'd rather not mention my university until a later down the road, I'm paranoid like that 😛. I'm too easy to identify if they know where I live!
But, I understand what you're saying. My university is the same way right now; after promising a response within a month, I'm in my 9th week of waiting. I don't think it's a matter of cost with my state; education is generally well supported here. And normally, I'd be ok with the waiting if they provided updates, at the least. Instead, they discourage e-mail/phone contact and refuse to give any updates other than what their status page says...which just tells me I'm complete.
But, I understand what you're saying. My university is the same way right now; after promising a response within a month, I'm in my 9th week of waiting. I don't think it's a matter of cost with my state; education is generally well supported here. And normally, I'd be ok with the waiting if they provided updates, at the least. Instead, they discourage e-mail/phone contact and refuse to give any updates other than what their status page says...which just tells me I'm complete.
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I thought maybe it had something to do with the multi-billion dollar state deficits. Unlike the federal clowns the state isn't allowed to deficit spend. I'm sure the DFL would make magic money appear by chanting Hope!
And, of course, public education is first in line to get those cuts. It's foolish because the U is the primary provider of human capital for the entire metropolitan area, which will be necessary for future growth.
The fault lies mostly with poor endowment management (34% loss) but the state is only making a bad situation worse.
Sadly, that's how most things in the US operate nowadays. They will gladly keep shunting funds towards more conservative enterprises and businesses which no longer have any true potential for growth. Then, the entire nation is surprised when they hear that other countries are outpacing the US in education by prioritizing it over other areas which don't promote growth as well.
Of course, there's more to it than that. Let's not even delve into the issue that parents in the US want their kids to be considered 'smart' while also letting them watch TV all day and not actually do any work. Or that students claim they want a challenge, but then cry that they got a C on an exam and brutalize teachers on evaluations. Or, finally, that everyone (parents and kids and administrators) wants a high GPA because the educational system here places such importance on that statistic that there's no way to progress without it. Other countries can use that measure without bias because their schoolwork takes actual effort. When the US does it, it's just a pathetically inflated number that means nothing.
My AP Biology teacher was actually demoted from that position to teaching freshman biology in high school because he taught the class like an actual college difficulty course; he felt that it would better prepare students for an actual college lifestyle. He was more relaxed in class, allowed students more independence, and spoke more about life sometimes than he did about biology. In the end, though? He was an excellent teacher and those students who put effort into the class were more than prepared for the AP exam and passed the class.
The students who took the class the year after me, though, apparently couldn't take a challenge. Were they expected to keep up with the coursework? No. Instead, they petitioned the principal that the class was too hard and, as I mentioned already, the teacher was demoted and someone else was hired to fill the position. Everyone in that class got As that year. The average score on the AP exam was a 2.4.
I am almost done with this rant. The end result of all this is that parents don't think there's any reason for more money to go into the educational system because their kids are already 'smart' and the culture in this country discourages parents from looking at their kids realistically. And the cycle continues.
DISCLAIMER: I was born in the US, brought up in the US, experienced the US school system, and dealt with US school administrators. For the most part, the experience was positive and I am now poised to enter medical school, which is where I feel a lot of the problems in the educational system disappear (that's right, you have to wait until medical school). My parents are Indian, but they are not the stereotypical overbearing family. However, they did make sure to encourage maximum effort in whatever I did (not just school), and like every other student on this forum who has a realistic chance of getting into medical school, I got the most out of the system because I put actual effort into my learning. We are, though, in the tiny, tiny minority.
EDIT: Also, I am not saying any amount of funding will make up for students trying in school. However, it can be used to create new opportunities and instill a new culture. And provide new things for students who are clearly advanced past the weak education provided by most public schools nowadays.
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