2011-2012 Virginia Tech Carilion Application Thread

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Congratulations! What time did you guys receive a call may I ask?
 
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Accepted! Got the call around 3pm EST. Do they send us a confirmation email as well? Has anyone received it?
 
the doc who called me said email would come by friday
 
Crapping bricks and sweating bullets. C'mon, are there still any prizes to be given away in this PC beauty contest?!
 
MedReckoning said:
Crapping bricks and sweating bullets. C'mon, are there still any prizes to be given away in this PC beauty contest?!
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I hear ya boss. I've been nervous all week and jumping every time my phone rings. Hopefully they still have some more calls to make this week.
 
If your interview was a long time ago and you haven't been rejected, you're probably headed for the wait-list. Once all offers are out, the "active status pool" turns into an unranked wait-list. That's how it was back when we applied and I don't think it's changed.
 
IDoIt4Love said:
If your interview was a long time ago and you haven't been rejected, you're probably headed for the wait-list. Once all offers are out, the "active status pool" turns into an unranked wait-list. That's how it was back when we applied and I don't think it's changed.
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You are right, they sent an email out last week saying that if you aren't accepted this week, your file moves to an unranked waitlist. I personally did interview a long time ago, but that's not going to stop me from hoping for the next couple days. Its a little disappointing that they don initially over-accept like most schools, but at the same time I understand their situation with a very small class size specific to the curriculum.

If you can remember from your experience, do you recall what the waitlist movement was like when you were applying? As in when movement started or how many people were accepted into your class off the waitlist? Thanks!
 
Been lurking SDN for the past few application cycles without ever making an account and I have always appreciated what you can gain from this site if you know where to look.

That being said, I decided to make an account and post in this thread because I also got the call on Tuesday and will most likely be heading to VTC. Thought it might be helpful for some of you guys who are trying to keep track of these numbers.
 
nBeeDee said:
You are right, they sent an email out last week saying that if you aren't accepted this week, your file moves to an unranked waitlist. I personally did interview a long time ago, but that's not going to stop me from hoping for the next couple days. Its a little disappointing that they don initially over-accept like most schools, but at the same time I understand their situation with a very small class size specific to the curriculum.

If you can remember from your experience, do you recall what the waitlist movement was like when you were applying? As in when movement started or how many people were accepted into your class off the waitlist? Thanks!
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We had significant wait-list movement in late Spring. Take that with a pinch of salt because we were also the inaugural class and there were not as many applicants during our round as there were in later cycles; people just didn't know about our school yet. The reality for most of the med students I've ever talked to (at my school, on SDN, friends from home, etc) is that, as an applicant, you will spend some time on a wait-list before getting into the school of your choice. It's very common.
 
I don't want to be placed on the waitlist as a polite, passive rejection. This is my second year applying, and last year I got interviews at most of the schools to which I applied - even the fancy ones. This year, I got much fewer interviews, but did get an acceptance at Tulane. I am also on the waitlist at VT (I assume, since I didn't get a call) and at EVMS. I'm from VA, so Tulane's COA of 76k gives me a big incentive to try to go in-state. VTC is my first choice, but I'm worried that I don't really have any chance of getting in off the waitlist, and I am prevented from effectively courting EVMS by the Letter of Intent I sent to VTC.

I've read that students with high stats who are otherwise "un-diverse" or have suspicious LORs, or perhaps a "red flag," are often passively rejected. Almost no school rejected me outright this year except at the very end of interview season, almost by default. Last year I was waitlisted at almost all schools to which I applied. 38R, graduated 2 years early, lab research, paper, 2 years of clinical employment and volunteering - should be having a bit more luck. Have I been bombing ALL my interviews? EVMS told my mine went great! I'm beginning to suspect that I have some kind of "mark." My app is somewhat unusual, but nothing bad (that I'm aware of!).

I plan on calling VTC next week and discussing my situation. I only hope they don't think I'm being crass by mentioning this rather unpublicized practice. Any ideas?
 
IDoIt4Love said:
We had significant wait-list movement in late Spring. Take that with a pinch of salt because we were also the inaugural class and there were not as many applicants during our round as there were in later cycles; people just didn't know about our school yet. The reality for most of the med students I've ever talked to (at my school, on SDN, friends from home, etc) is that, as an applicant, you will spend some time on a wait-list before getting into the school of your choice. It's very common.
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Thanks for the info! I’m hoping that since its still a very new school, there may be a lot of waitlist movement :xf: We shall see. I did have another question if you don’t mind me asking. Do you know your clinical rotations are going to work for your next year? At my interview the students still weren’t exactly sure how they were going to work or what hospitals they will rotate in.


MedReckoning said:
I don't want to be placed on the waitlist as a polite, passive rejection. This is my second year applying, and last year I got interviews at most of the schools to which I applied - even the fancy ones. This year, I got much fewer interviews, but did get an acceptance at Tulane. I am also on the waitlist at VT (I assume, since I didn't get a call) and at EVMS. I'm from VA, so Tulane's COA of 76k gives me a big incentive to try to go in-state. VTC is my first choice, but I'm worried that I don't really have any chance of getting in off the waitlist, and I am prevented from effectively courting EVMS by the Letter of Intent I sent to VTC.

I've read that students with high stats who are otherwise "un-diverse" or have suspicious LORs, or perhaps a "red flag," are often passively rejected. Almost no school rejected me outright this year except at the very end of interview season, almost by default. Last year I was waitlisted at almost all schools to which I applied. 38R, graduated 2 years early, lab research, paper, 2 years of clinical employment and volunteering - should be having a bit more luck. Have I been bombing ALL my interviews? EVMS told my mine went great! I'm beginning to suspect that I have some kind of "mark." My app is somewhat unusual, but nothing bad (that I'm aware of!).

I plan on calling VTC next week and discussing my situation. I only hope they don't think I'm being crass by mentioning this rather unpublicized practice. Any ideas?
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I agree. From their emails it seems that everyone who is interviewed and not accepted on one of their acceptance dates is placed on the waitlist. If I said or did something wrong at the interview and they never plan to accept me, I would like to know sooner rather than later so I can move on with my life. This school is one of my only shots left at an acceptance this year and I should start getting things ready to apply again if necessary. If someone out there has been rejected post-interview, let me know if I’m wrong here, but then again I wouldn’t be looking at this thread if I was rejected.

But I also think you’re looking at this the wrong way. This is your second time applying and you finally have an acceptance. You’re going to be a doctor, that’s awesome! Tulane is a great school. Even though it’s an expensive private school, you will get a great medical education and will be able to pay off your debt in the future by practicing in the field you want. Sure, debt is terrifying to think about and if you get into a Virginia school, by all means go there. I was straight up rejected by my one and only state school, so I know I’ll be swimming in debt regardless :laugh:

In my opinion, its unlikely that you have a serious red flag in your application. You have been accepted into one school already and are on 2 waitlists, if there was something wrong that wouldn’t have happened. You said you graduated 2 years early, how long have you been out of school? Perhaps the VA schools are worried about your age or maturity if you applied during or right after school. But it seems to me like you’re EC’s also should have proven your maturity. Who knows, maybe you’re interviewer didn’t’ like something. There’s no way of knowing how exactly the adcom will view your application, so its best not to stress about it.

Calling might go either way. I’d like to talk to someone too, but I’m not really sure what to say that wouldn’t come off like star wars, “Help me Virginia Tech Carilion, you’re my only hope.” I apologize for my nerd humor :laugh: I’m thinking a letter of intent would be a better approach. I want to show that I really do love this program and would love to go there. But who knows if they’ll even read it or factor it into a decision.

Sorry for the novel people, I just want to liven up this thread!
 
So I think I've decided to go to VTC regardless of what happens with the rest of my applications... Kind of crazy...

Anyways, is there a facebook group, or anything like that? It would be awesome to meet some of my future classmates.
 
Accepted last week as well! Just wondering - obviously this information is coming in the "big packet", but I'd like to know ASAP - has anyone managed to find out when orientation/WCC are scheduled for?
 
Did everyone get the email from them saying that the March round was over and they have been moved over to the waitlist?
 
haha yup, i'm sure more people will join soon enough.

just wanted to shout out to any current VTC students or people who are familiar with Roanoke, is the city generally safe? I won't have much time to scope out the neighborhood before choosing a place to live so I was wondering whether there are any areas to avoid.
 
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wworld05 said:
haha yup, i'm sure more people will join soon enough.

just wanted to shout out to any current VTC students or people who are familiar with Roanoke, is the city generally safe? I won't have much time to scope out the neighborhood before choosing a place to live so I was wondering whether there are any areas to avoid.
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Ah I figured lol. I was kind of hoping that they would separate those that hadn't heard back into waitlisted and rejected but I guess not. I think that's what they did last year?
 
Etohh said:
Ah I figured lol. I was kind of hoping that they would separate those that hadn't heard back into waitlisted and rejected but I guess not. I think that's what they did last year?
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oops sorry, I was responding to RaceCanyon's reply of the FB group having just him and me in it.
 
Etohh said:
Did everyone get the email from them saying that the March round was over and they have been moved over to the waitlist?
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I got the waitlist email. It makes it sound like everyone who interviewed and wasn't accepted is waitlisted. But maybe thats not the case, who knows.
 
wworld05 said:
haha yup, i'm sure more people will join soon enough.

just wanted to shout out to any current VTC students or people who are familiar with Roanoke, is the city generally safe? I won't have much time to scope out the neighborhood before choosing a place to live so I was wondering whether there are any areas to avoid.
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the town is safe for the most part.. granted there are some parts of town i wouldnt want to walk alone in the middle of the night (Orange ave, Melrose, Ave, Williamson)... all in all, a lot of students have been finding great housing in Old Southwest or even downtown Roanoke... Patrick Henry Apartments and many of the apartments in its nearby vicinity are amazing! Also, I keep telling people to check out Grandin Village!!!! One of my favorite areas in Roanoke, but not too popular with the students because it is not within walking range of the school(bike not out of the question)... anyways, i hope this helps!
 
Congrats to everyone who has acceptances so far, and don't give up hope those on the waitlist! Right now is an especially tumultuous time in the acceptance process, so anything can happen.

My classmates and I are very excited to meet all of you in August, but in the meantime, if any of you have questions about housing/life in Roanoke, etc, please don't hesitate to contact me!

Congrats again to everyone!

:soexcited::highfive::clap:
 
so for ppl who got accepted, did you get your notification of acceptance and finaid yet?
 
DIVA01x said:
so for ppl who got accepted, did you get your notification of acceptance and finaid yet?
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yup, they sent the formal letter last wednesday and I received it saturday.
 
Also, I'm still holding on to hope in EVMS, which I (tentatively) consider a better personal fit, so I wanted to ask: this deposit for VTC does not preclude me from getting in off the EVMS WL in any way, right? I mean, they say the deposit is "refundable" until May 15th, and I interpret that to be for the applicants who get in and decide to attend elsewhere. Is there any point prior to orientation when continuing to maintain my seat at VTC will be grounds for removing me from the EVMS WL? May 15th (for obvious reasons) has me particularly concerned, as does June 1st due to this excerpt from the AAMC Traffic Rules:

"8. Subsequent to June 1st, a school of medicine seeking to admit an applicant already known to be accepted by another school for that entering class should advise that school of its intent. Because of the administrative problems involved in filling a place accepted just prior to the commencement of the academic year, schools should communicate fully with each other with respect to anticipated late roster changes in order to keep misunderstandings at a minimum. "
 
no it shouldn't. you can hold multiple acceptances til may15th, period. the way letters are phrased is not always the greatest but that's da deal.

at may 15 you can still remain on EVMS's waitlist. what you quoted makes it look like between may15 and june1 EVMS could offer you a spot and give you a deadline to respond, and it'd be your responsibility to let VATech know that you'd accepted another spot in a timely fashion. after jun1, if EVMS offers you a spot, they have to advise VATech of that so they're in the loop and ready to pounce on their next waitlister. i wouldn't think there'd be conversations like you might be worried about (oh you want to offer our student a spot? gosh, it's so late, we're rather you didn't. oh ok well then we won't do it...) even that late. if there ever were they'd be so rare that you should definitely not take the risk (don't drop an acceptance, at any point, bc you think you'll look like more of a free agent).

my understanding anyway...
 
fizzgig said:
no it shouldn't. you can hold multiple acceptances til may15th, period. the way letters are phrased is not always the greatest but that's da deal.

at may 15 you can still remain on EVMS's waitlist. what you quoted makes it look like between may15 and june1 EVMS could offer you a spot and give you a deadline to respond, and it'd be your responsibility to let VATech know that you'd accepted another spot in a timely fashion. after jun1, if EVMS offers you a spot, they have to advise VATech of that so they're in the loop and ready to pounce on their next waitlister. i wouldn't think there'd be conversations like you might be worried about (oh you want to offer our student a spot? gosh, it's so late, we're rather you didn't. oh ok well then we won't do it...) even that late. if there ever were they'd be so rare that you should definitely not take the risk (don't drop an acceptance, at any point, bc you think you'll look like more of a free agent).

my understanding anyway...
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Thanks, that was my interpretation too, but this was just a little too important to not seek others' input. And I'd NEVER have declined VTC's offer just for a shot at EVMS - VTC is a great school. =)
 
Can any current students please comment on what the exam schedule is like? Thanks in advance
 
So about that exam schedule (I comment on this as I actively avoid studying...)
The curriculum is set up in 8 week blocks, 4/semester the first year. At the end of the block (week 9) we have 3 days of exams, which consist of a basic science exam, a case exam (from our pbl sessions), a clinical skills written and practical, an anatomy practical, and a research exam. After that usually results in post-block celebrations that wednesday. Thursday evening they typically let us know if we passed our exams. Then we have a week off or remediation if you failed to pass before the start of the next block.
 
swimerbear said:
So about that exam schedule (I comment on this as I actively avoid studying...)
The curriculum is set up in 8 week blocks, 4/semester the first year. At the end of the block (week 9) we have 3 days of exams, which consist of a basic science exam, a case exam (from our pbl sessions), a clinical skills written and practical, an anatomy practical, and a research exam. After that usually results in post-block celebrations that wednesday. Thursday evening they typically let us know if we passed our exams. Then we have a week off or remediation if you failed to pass before the start of the next block.
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Everyone needs breaks 🙂

I really liked VT when I visited, but I am a little worried about the small class size as well as it being so new. If you could change something about VT what would it be?

Thanks for being awesome and answering my questions
 
redskinfan22 said:
I really liked VT when I visited, but I am a little worried about the small class size as well as it being so new. If you could change something about VT what would it be?
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VTC c/o 2014 here. I tend to forget about SDN, but figured this was the waitlist time of year, and there might be some people trying to make a final decision that would have questions. I just wanted to assure people that the waitlist does in fact move here -- that being waitlisted is not a "silent rejection." I was waitlisted after a December interview and got in during April once the waitlist opened. Not hearing anything during that whole period was a bit stressful, but getting anxious about it isn't going to speed things up.

To answer redskinfan's questions:
The small class size is pretty nice. The way PBL is structured, each block you will have small group time with 6 of your classmates (plus you) and those rotate every block. You will get to spend quality time with the vast majority of your classmates. Obviously (and just like anywhere else) there are going to be a few people you probably don't like, and a few you like more than the rest. In a class of 42, it's harder to avoid the bad apples but you also get more face-time with your friends. PBL means that there will be very few students who get sucked into a studying hole and fall off the face of the planet.

The only thing I would change is the exam schedule. Having exams so infrequently means that there's a ton of material covered on each exam. Some topics get favorable weighting, and some topics seem to get brushed aside. I would prefer each topic get its own separate exam and a little more respect, we have professors who work really hard to deliver good content (our histology prof, especially) and who only get 6-10 questions per exam, so students blow that class off. But the school structured it this way so that remediation can be periodic. With PBL curriculum we don't want anybody getting far behind. A lot of schools have their exams this way though so it's probably more my problem than not.

I'll check this thread a bit more in the upcoming week. If there were any other outstanding questions, I'll take my best shot. Also I think the school should be getting the Facebook page moving soon so that all of the 2016ers can post their questions about housing etc on FB.
 
Thanks current VTC'ers (swimerbear, Freezer, Idoit4love, GDplastics...and anyone else I missed)! That really helps 🙂

I have a lot of questions that perhaps each of you can touch on if you feel strongly about it (you don't have to answer them all obviously, but I wanted to get points of view from each of you for a more diverse sample size -- lol i sound like a true scientist):

1. GDplastics--are you going into plastics? I get the impression that VTC is very ambitious and that they mostly want their students to specialize (as opposed to primary care, like some state schools' missions where they want to create more PC drs for the state of XX). Do you think the majority of your classmates are looking to get into competitive residencies and even fellowships in the future?

2. I heard that there is no "internal ranking" system kept at VTC (or even "internal quartile" system like some schools use), but that you can get "commendation" in the 5 pillars. Do you know how you get these letters of commendation when it comes time for Residency apps?

3. How do you feel about class time? Too much or too little? GDplastics' post about the testing and 8 wk block point was very influential for me, so thank you for that! 🙂

In terms of this quote from GDplastics, "we have professors who work really hard to deliver good content (our histology prof, especially) and who only get 6-10 questions per exam, so students blow that class off. But the school structured it this way so that remediation can be periodic" -- how many people have actually needed to remediate cuz they got under 75% on the exam and didn't do well enough on their presentation over the questions they missed? When I interviewed, I heard of only 1-2 who had to remediate a test/take the test again, and 1 who had to remediate during the summer (I guess cuz that person missed the mark in too many classes?).

When I first looked at the class schedule, it seemed kind of brutal to have several tests (the case based, the lecture one, the anatomy practical, etc.) all in a short span of 3 days. If you're saying that each prof can only have 6-10 q's, then it seems to me like I'd have the attitude of when I was studying for the MCAT -- like...there's so much info that *could* be tested but chances are this one minute detail isn't going to be on the test...so I can either try to know EVERYTHING or only try to focus on the big picture (which I think is what you're saying GDplastics?) Just not sure I interpreted that right...

It seems like the way the schedule is set up, it's kind of like around 7 weeks of low/medium stress, and then 1 week of Extreme stress, and then you're sitting around waiting for the next block of 8 wks to begin and having no stress whatsoever...what do people do during that time? party, relax, and for the gunners, maybe do research?

4. How is the IPL class so far? How many students total are in it (including the Jeff HP people)? Does the time allotted for it (3 hrs) seem like too much or too little?

5. How hard is it to get through M, W, F's of 8-5 pm? Do those feel like really long days? Do you usually feel like you're dragging towards the end? I worry that it would be hard to study after 5 pm on days like that 🙁

6. How has LACE been? Useful? Do you actually get to do anything/is your time well spent/actually learning something? I suppose this is probably also dependant on who you get assigned to...

7. I was told that people who have prior research experience still have to go to all the Research Live and Research classes, even if you already know Biostats, how to do a lit search etc. For any of you guys, was this the case with you? How has it been? I personally wouldn't mind sitting through these classes except for the fact that people have been telling me how important Time is in med school, and how much these classes would be a waste of time for me 🙁

8. Are the exams NBME style? How long are they usually and what format (MC, fill in the blank, etc)? Are the exams curved? What have your class avg's been so far?

9. For the current M2's (well, rising M3's I guess!): how has the 14 wk period off for both research and Step 1 studying been? I assume *very nice* Does VTC require you to take Step 1 by a certain date (I'm assuming sometime in June)?

What hospitals are your 3rd and 4th yr rotations going to be in? Are you going to have to share rotations with UVA and VCOM students?

I know Grading is P/F for M1 and M2, but what about M3 and M4?

10. Lectures are not recorded right? I know attendance is mandatory. Is there a note-taking service?

11. Do they give a computer/laptop? The finaid package has a $2250 allotment for this, as well as "electronic textbooks." Do you use mostly computer textbooks?

12. Do you have AOA?

Thanks and sorry for the neuroticism! What you say will really help, so THANKS TO YOU ALL IN ADVANCE 🙂 !
 
Haha so many questions! You clearly have given this a lot of thought. I respect your foresight and I'll try my best to answer these as best as possible.

1) My background is in plastics, and my future is currently unclear. Surgical subspec if possible. I'd say our class has a pretty good balance of people interested in both subspecs and primary care (I know, boring answer, but it's true).

2) We don't know about letters of rec. yet since we haven't applied for residencies. The "no class ranking" applies to the first two years when our classes are pass/fail. We have been told there will be letters of distinction given though.

3) I don't really have an opinion about class time. Generally classes are helpful and beneficial to attend, but like anywhere you could end up, a small handful of lecturers are duds.

You read into what I said just a tiny bit, so I hope this clarifies. What I meant was just that it feels like some topics get bumped in order to make way for others. That aside, I think the lecturers and test-writers do their best to mix both big-picture-conceptual topics with important-detail topics. They attempt to be relevant with respect to our Step exams. I don't think our tests really differ from other schools' tests, just the format and time-scale on which they're delivered.

EDIT: Our "case exam" may be the exception, as that's PBL specific. In this exam you work through a case like you would a real patient, with short answers to questions about topics covered in PBL. This is probably my favorite exam.

4) IPL is currently a moving target. It has been difficult to find a comfortable middle ground for both VTC and Jefferson students in topics that will have a strong impact on our careers as interprofessionals. Since that's the goal, the class is still undergoing tweaking. Everybody enjoyed their service projects, and interprofessional ethics is being taught under this banner -- which we all are confident will be highly beneficial to medical students entering the weirdly rigid bureaucratic world that is contemporary healthcare. The opinions about this portion of our curriculum tend to vary.

5) The most universal complaint of the student body is probably how much time we spend working. In theory, the 3 hours we spend in PBL on MWF are time we're learning from one another, and can be very akin to studying. Classes like clinical skills are hands-on, so the 5 hours for that class every week do not feel like you're sitting in class. You're interviewing standardized patients or practicing exam skills on your classmates or standardized patients.

Wednesdays usually feel pretty long to me, some think Mondays feel long. There are strategies to tackling your classroom workload (mostly PBL) on different days to minimize the "long day" feeling or to maximize your effective study time on other days. T/Tr afternoons you have free to do your work.

6) LACE has been across the board one of the favorite activities in our curriculum. Yes there is some variation based on your "daddy doc" (we call them). Generally it has two major pros and no major cons. First, we get a very obvious and regular "light at the end of the tunnel." We get to see patients! We get a regular reminder that our hard work is going toward some greater good, that there are people that will benefit from the hours we spend buried in books. Second, we are using exam techniques and skills that we spend time learning, and figure out that they are applicable on real people. Some daddy docs give little clinical pearls about how useful a certain test is, or important considerations when going through an interview for a patient with a certain condition.

As a plug -- due to both our location in the South and partly due to the novelty of our school, the patients are generally eager and sometimes overjoyed to be examined by students. Patients are agreeable and pretty happy to let us listen to their hearts and look in their eyes and test the integrity of their meniscus!

7) Yes, people with prior research experience are expected to attend research classes. Many in our class had prior research experience. However, the faculty cannot guarantee that those of us with prior research experience will have an identical knowledge base without requiring us to attend the classes. I was an engineer in a previous life, and despite an extensive statistical and modeling background, I still learned much about research protocols for human subject testing, the phases of clinical trials and how to power them, etc...

8) All exams are verbal and tape-recorded by robots so there will be no interviewer bias. We're required to wear all white with white helmets.

Your #9 really has 3 questions, so I'm going to label them A B and C.
9a) I wouldn't call this "time off." Some people are taking their boards early in order to spend time later doing research, some are working on their research projects early in order to take a bit of a break from studying. There are pros and cons to each approach. Yes there is a required date for taking our boards.

9b) Mostly Carilion -- Carilion Clinic, Carilion Roanoke Memorial Hospital, and Carilion Regional Associate Clinics should cover all of our bases. Carilion is a rather large and extensive healthcare system in the area. There are a handful of UVA and VCOM students that have historically done a portion of their rotations at Carilion. I'm not sure if we will be sharing rotations with them. I can only hope so!

9c) Answered above. P/F M1/2, grades M3/4.

10) Lectures are not recorded and I'll let the administration explain why not because I can't make sense of it. Our class did not have a note-taking service.

11) C/o 2014 got school-issued laptops, because originally our network was a big conundrum and they went a little over the top with network security. Since then that has relaxed a little. C/o 2015 did not get school-issued laptops. There is a rumor that in the future there will not be school-issued laptops but the school will have a student discount provided on new hardware from Apple and Dell.

The books are the majority of this fee. Having electronic textbooks has both pros and cons. Pro: you don't have to carry a dozen books around but con: you have to carry your laptop around and study in short bursts or near electrical plugs. Pro: you can highlight the text and the text is searchable but con: you spend hours staring at a screen. Pro: you always have a primary source available but con: it's tempting to want to read the primary sources too much rather than focusing on review texts. Most people buy a handful of review texts, or physical copies of books they foresee spending a copious amount of time in.

12) Not yet.
 
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I have a quick question for any of the current students regarding the electronic study materials - Are they e-reader compatible? It would be a hell of a lot easier to spend some of your time using a kindle instead of burning your eyes out staring into an LCD screen 12 hours a day. What do you guys think?
 
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can any current students comment on the scholarship $$$ they received for their 2nd year? can incoming students expect a similar award in the coming couple of years until the school graduates a class and becomes accredited/eligible for federal loans?
 
late to the thread, but i will also be attending next year. so relieved!
 
I am worried about PBL because of the extra time you have to put in creating presentations instead of studying the materials given. Do any current students feel this way? Or are the presentations actually really helpful?
 
big rudy said:
can any current students comment on the scholarship $$$ they received for their 2nd year? can incoming students expect a similar award in the coming couple of years until the school graduates a class and becomes accredited/eligible for federal loans?
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I was also wondering about this as well. Thank you for responding your comments are very helpful!
 
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