2012-2013 University of Massachusetts Application Thread

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does anyone know how often the admissions Committee meets and what day they meet? Does Umass hold off on post interview rejections until march/spring? thanks

I'm not sure. They didn't give us any idea on my interview day, either. Looking at past threads, it seems like they don't reject until the spring.... which I find terrifying, because I could be holding out for nothing.

Here's what I don't understand: There's an entire Admissions Office dedicated to...admissions. They don't send out that many interview invites, and the invitations they do send out are well spaced. They also haven't send out many acceptances, seemingly zero wait lists, zero rejections. So.... What.... Exactly.... Is going on in the office? I mean, genuinely, what happens from 9-5 each day in there? I'm really curious. Admissions is so mysterious.
 
I'm not sure. They didn't give us any idea on my interview day, either. Looking at past threads, it seems like they don't reject until the spring.... which I find terrifying, because I could be holding out for nothing.

Here's what I don't understand: There's an entire Admissions Office dedicated to...admissions. They don't send out that many interview invites, and the invitations they do send out are well spaced. They also haven't send out many acceptances, seemingly zero wait lists, zero rejections. So.... What.... Exactly.... Is going on in the office? I mean, genuinely, what happens from 9-5 each day in there? I'm really curious. Admissions is so mysterious.

Now that I think about it... Maybe UMass seriously only has one person in the office juggling everything.

But I still want to creep on an office for a day!
 
I wish I had the guts to call and ask but from what I understand they will explicitly say you may hear anytime from now to 5/15
 
Pre-interview rejection by email. Complete back in August. 3.8 / 36Q
 
Pre-interview rejection by email. Complete back in August. 3.8 / 36Q

Whaa...how??

As for everyone else post-interview, I'm in the same boat. Interviewed ~2 months ago and nothing... unfortunately this school has me by the balls until they decide to send out decisions.
 
Whaa...how??

As for everyone else post-interview, I'm in the same boat. Interviewed ~2 months ago and nothing... unfortunately this school has me by the balls until they decide to send out decisions.

Hm, maybe they do rejections for MD/PhD candidates?
 
Whaa...how??

As for everyone else post-interview, I'm in the same boat. Interviewed ~2 months ago and nothing... unfortunately this school has me by the balls until they decide to send out decisions.

This!

I'm at ~4 months post interview 🙁
 
Hm, maybe they do rejections for MD/PhD candidates?

Straight MD for UMass. Hah, perhaps they just reached their quota for white, male, non-legacies. A bit surprised myself, but this is a slightly random game sometimes.
 
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Rejected preinterview today by email. Straight md. Submitted early october, update sent late December. 35, 3.5ish cgpa and sgpa. Interviewed last year and rejected. Loved the school, so I'm kind of disappointed, especially since I got an interview last year, and I thought I improved my application and would have made a better impression at an interview than last year. But oh well. Good luck to everyone still waiting! 🙂
 
have their been any interview invites recently. been complete since july/august and still no response. when does umass start accepting people?
 
None here. I am resigned at this point that we probably won't be hearing anything until April -_-
 
did umass mention during anyone's interview day how many people they plan to interview and how many they usually accept?
 
Can any current students respond to this? I found this in last year's thread and it is freaking me out a little bit:

"Hey guys. I'm a current clinical years UMMS student, and long-time SDN member. I created this acct for anonymity, because there are some things I wish I'd known more about before deciding to come to UMMS, so I thought I would share them with you all so that you can make a fully informed choice.

First of all, the positives: the people at UMMS are really nice. Deans and other administrators, faculty, the majority of the clinical staff - noticably warm and welcoming, especially, or so I've been told by a number of visiting students, when compared to other schools. The price is indeed excellent, especially given the low cost of living in Worcester. There is a lot of development going on at UMMS, new construction, pretty buildings - there's a sense of energy, which is cool. There is school support, both administratively and financially, for research, public health, and international work.

Now, the cons. As you probably are aware, there's a massive curriculum redesign in progress. You can hear more about that from current students in MS1 or MS2. It's been a bit of a cluster**** at times, with materials not ready or changes to classes made at the last minute, but I actually don't think the preclinical curriculum matters all that much, and I do think it's getting better. There are a lot of motivated people working on it, and the professors are very dedicated. The medical school preclinical years are very standardized in terms of material to cover, so if you take responsibility early on for staying aware of what you need to be learning for step 1, you can do just fine regardless of what the school does. More than 10 people failed step 1 in the class of 2012, and a large percentage of the class of 2013 delayed taking it. A lot of people also scored very highly - just ignore what Dean Rogoff says (repeatedly!) about step 1 not mattering all that much and go your own way in terms of preparation.

The biggest con, however, has been the clinical years experience. You will have limited chances to talk to MS3 and MS4s during your interviews/second looks, so it's hard to get a feel. And while preclinical weaknesses aren't that big of a deal because you can do your own thing, that's not the case with clinical years. So here they are - I don't know how different these things would be at other schools you are considering, but I didn't even really know to ask about them when I was applying. Just take it as a list of issues to consider.

1. Clinical rotations are scattered all over the state (and beyond), from the Berkshires to Connecticut and Rhode Island. The housing provided in the Berks is extremely ghetto. The driving gets expensive and tiring. The scattered sites make it difficult to provide a standardized experience. One of the inpatient pediatric sites had literally 2 patients while a student was there for his MS3 pediatric rotation this year. That is not a rotation, IMO. The sites have always been a little scattered, but from what I understand it has gotten a lot worse recently because the class size expanded before slots for clinical students had been lined up.

2. The residency programs at UMMS are not very strong. I had absolutely not understood that before starting clinical years. There are a lot of preliminary people who scrambled for spots and got them here. There are a lot of IMG/FMG/DOs. BTW, some of those folks are the best, and I've really enjoyed working with the FMGs/DOs, but the rest of them are visibly struggling compared to the US MD grads we see. And there are two reasons that matters to you as a medical student. First, when your intern/residents are struggling, it's miserable to work with them. They dump more scut, they radiate more anxiety, and the teaching is not as good because they don't have time and/or energy. Second, given the realities of home-field advantage, you'd be better off going to school somewhere you would like to stay. That is not to say, however, that you can't leave. Most people do. Regardless, you'll come to find out that your team makes or breaks a rotation.

3. You will hear a lot about how many people extend for a 5th year, and you will hear it framed as a good thing. Oh, opportunities for research, travel, fellowships! And that's somewhat true. Except that a significant number of people are doing that research because they need to be more competitive for the specialty they want. Or because they had little exposure to fields outside of primary care until it was too late to apply on time. There is a big uproar in the class of 2013 because the cost of a 5th year is going to be raised to ~$8000...which the administration says is still very cheap. Except that a 5th year doesn't cost you the tuition and living expenses for that year, it costs you whatever your salary would have been for that year were you applying on time, so who cares if it was $800 or $8000? It costs you 200k. Which is fine if you are making that choice because you are doing something awesome that year and it's necessary to get you to where you want to go, but if you are doing it because you weren't adequately prepared to apply on time, that's not cool.

So, like I said, some of these things may be the same or worse at other places you are considering. I don't know. But ask about them. I'm not saying don't come to UMass, I'm just saying compare your options carefully. "
 
scary stuff...I interviewed at Umass last november and I don't recall hearing the above from current 1st and 2nd year students...Perhaps a 3rd or 4th year student should respond to this
 
Thank you. this is really important info to know. Can a 3rd or 4th year student comment on this please?
 
If you go back to that thread there is a whole set of responses from other 4th years. From what I got from it, this is just one students opinion and, although the school is not perfect (dealing with issues that many schools are facing), there are many really compelling reasons to attend UMASS. Honestly, based on my interview day and meeting the students at UMASS, think that it would be a pretty awesome place to spend 4 years.
 
LGreen89, thank you for the valuable re-post! It certainly raises awareness of some issues that most pre-meds (myself included) didn't know existed. Obviously everything at SDN should be taken with a grain of salt, however speaking from my own interview experience, I got the impression that the quality of education is greatly compromised at UMMS for the sake of keeping the tuition low.
 
Not directed to me, but invitations are emailed

LGreen89, thank you for the valuable re-post! It certainly raises awareness of some issues that most pre-meds (myself included) didn't know existed. Obviously everything at SDN should be taken with a grain of salt, however speaking from my own interview experience, I got the impression that the quality of education is greatly compromised at UMMS for the sake of keeping the tuition low.

Your interview day gave that impression? Could you tell a bit more about that?

My interview day was really great....
 
has anyone who interviewed in december heard anything?
 
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I interviewed in November as still haven't heard anything. From what I understand, waiting for UMass' answer is really not a quick and painless process. Pretty much the opposite.
 
Same-sies! I interviewed in mid-October, and haven't heard anything yet :-(
 
Mid-September interviewer here and still nothing... 👎
 
for anyone who interviewed more recently, did they mention when you might hear of a decision? thanks
 
are they still handing put invites?
 
This kid ^ spent a good portion of his Saturday night writing offensive things on a bunch of school threads. Great.

Anyways........ Biggurl it seems like they are still inviting.
 
I interviewed in the middle of October and I also haven't heard a word since then. I have a 33 and a little over a 3.6 GPA. However, I'm a non-traditional student with a masters degree and Peace Corps experience. I also graduated from UMass Amherst. I submitted my secondary in the middle of September and was invited only a couple weeks later. I found the interview process a little strange. On of the docs hadn't looked at my application materials at all when I walked into the room. He more or less said that people who are interviewed in October tend to get in. It seemed a little inappropriate for him to say, a potential false hope. Regardless, I thought I would have heard by now. However, it sounds as though a lot of people are having the same experience. Do they definitely send out acceptances on Fridays? I wasn't aware of that.
 
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PiExactlyThree, you clearly got rejected because your scores are high. You should have gone for early decision like a friend of mine did out of college. Then they would have known for sure you were coming. UMass could of course accept a hundred people with GPAs and MCAT scores like yours. However, 75% of them would choose to go elsewhere. That would make the admissions process even longer and more confusing for an obviously understaffed office. I don't feel all that sorry for you though. I'm sure you're getting into a lot of great schools with those numbers.
 
PiExactlyThree, you clearly got rejected because your scores are high. You should have gone for early decision like a friend of mine did out of college. Then they would have known for sure you were coming. UMass could of course accept a hundred people with GPAs and MCAT scores like yours. However, 75% of them would choose to go elsewhere. That would make the admissions process even longer and more confusing for an obviously understaffed office. I don't feel all that sorry for you though. I'm sure you're getting into a lot of great schools with those numbers.

According to my MSAR, almost half the class has scores in the 34-37 range. I have similar numbers to him, and got an interview. UMass will also likely be my only acceptance... this whole process is just bonkers.
 
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PiExactlyThree, you clearly got rejected because your scores are high. You should have gone for early decision like a friend of mine did out of college. Then they would have known for sure you were coming. UMass could of course accept a hundred people with GPAs and MCAT scores like yours. However, 75% of them would choose to go elsewhere. That would make the admissions process even longer and more confusing for an obviously understaffed office. I don't feel all that sorry for you though. I'm sure you're getting into a lot of great schools with those numbers.

According to my MSAR, almost half the class has scores in the 34-37 range. I have similar numbers to him, and got an interview. UMass will also likely be my only acceptance... this whole process is just bonkers.

I'm going to agree with LGreen89. It'd be a bit foolish for UMass to guess which applicants would eventually attend the school and thus not even offer interviews. UMass has a good program and coupled with their low tuition price makes them attractive over schools with a more prestigious name.
 
does anyone know how often the committee meets to make decisions and if most of the interviewers are on the committee.
 
I interviewed here last week and the day was great. the only concern i have is that the school seemed to emphasize the fact that about 80% of the class is non-traditional and a good portion of the class is 25+. Does umass looking more favorably on older applicants and do you think those who apply as college seniors are at a disadvantage.
 
Interesting. I certainly hadn't heard a number as high as 80% but I definitely have heard that UMass takes a lot of non-traditionals. I don't know how old you all are, but take some advice from a 30-year-old. Slow down, chill out, take a couple of years. Do some research, join the Peace Corps or Americorp, work for an NGO. There's no rush. You might find out you want to do something else entirely with your intelligence. I had a couple friends go straight to medical school from college. She got all the way to her residency and then had a complete nervous breakdown because she had never done anything else with her life and she didn't know if she really wanted to be a doctor. Trust me, you're going to be young for a really long time.
 
I'm going to agree with LGreen89. It'd be a bit foolish for UMass to guess which applicants would eventually attend the school and thus not even offer interviews. UMass has a good program and coupled with their low tuition price makes them attractive over schools with a more prestigious name.
I don't think it's foolish at all. Think about it. People apply to like 20 schools on average right? If all schools only interviewed their best MCAT and GPA candidates then no one under a 34 MCAT score would get an interview initially. Then all those people that applied to 1st, 2nd, and 3rd tier schools would all choose 1st or 2nd tier schools. Then the 2nd/3rd tier schools, after having gone through an entire round of interviews, would have to start all over from scratch with a new batch of applicants. It makes sense for schools to hedge their bets and interview applicants that resemble their previous class. Also, half the UMass class may have MCAT scores between 34 and 37, but I would be willing to bet if you looked at those people, their average MCAT score would be closer to a 34 than a 37. Anything above a 36 is 99th percentile and is top tier material. I doubt there are a lot of 36's and higher going to UMass.
 
according to us news 75% of last years class was non-traditional and Umass says there mean age is a little more than 25. So i am just thinking that older applicants are at an advantage at this school. most schools have an average age of 23 which means you applied during school but will have a year off.
 
According to my MSAR, almost half the class has scores in the 34-37 range. I have similar numbers to him, and got an interview. UMass will also likely be my only acceptance... this whole process is just bonkers.
LGreen89,

If you applied early and applied to a good number of schools and UMass is going to be your only acceptance, that should probably be an indication to you that your resume lacks something that medical schools are looking for. I wish you all the best getting into UMass, but if you don't, perhaps take a year or two to think about what you can show schools that you haven't showed them already. I know people applying right now who have your scores, applied late, and have had 7 or 8 interviews. Granted, most people I know who are applying are at least a year out of college. I honestly don't understand why there are so many college seniors applying to medical school. Aren't you sick of school?
 
I don't think it's foolish at all. Think about it. People apply to like 20 schools on average right? If all schools only interviewed their best MCAT and GPA candidates then no one under a 34 MCAT score would get an interview initially. Then all those people that applied to 1st, 2nd, and 3rd tier schools would all choose 1st or 2nd tier schools. Then the 2nd/3rd tier schools, after having gone through an entire round of interviews, would have to start all over from scratch with a new batch of applicants. It makes sense for schools to hedge their bets and interview applicants that resemble their previous class. Also, half the UMass class may have MCAT scores between 34 and 37, but I would be willing to bet if you looked at those people, their average MCAT score would be closer to a 34 than a 37. Anything above a 36 is 99th percentile and is top tier material. I doubt there are a lot of 36's and higher going to UMass.

I think you are underestimating the appeal of very low tuition. UMass is not a 3rd tier school, and routinely wins the cross admit battle bewtween much more highly ranked schools due to the low COA.

In any event, does anyone have ANY idea when UMass will be making decisions...the wait here is honestly killing me...
 
I think you are underestimating the appeal of very low tuition. UMass is not a 3rd tier school, and routinely wins the cross admit battle bewtween much more highly ranked schools due to the low COA.

In any event, does anyone have ANY idea when UMass will be making decisions...the wait here is honestly killing me...
Someone above said that this coming Friday is a big admissions day? What are they basing that on? I think the wait is killing all of us. I suppose it makes me feel a little better that most people are having the same experience. I'd feel worse if they were handing out acceptances left and right.
 
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