2013-2014 Rutgers University - NJMS Application Thread

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gk101 said:
what about post-interview...havent heard back since september
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Theres something wrong then.. either you missed the waitlist email or letter. You're supposed to hear back at max 8 weeks later.
 
So, anyone who is going to be attending the event tomorrow - dress code?
 
aspirantmed said:
So, anyone who is going to be attending the event tomorrow - dress code?
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I can't make it to this one, but was at the one in November and business dress seemed to be the rule. Nice, but no need to wear the suit. There were a few people in their suits and they looked fine too.
 
PinkyandtheBrain said:
Haven't heard anything from here yet...do I just assume it's a no?
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Dont give up yet. They state that they run interviews until March. Its likely that anyone interviewing Jan and beyond may be interviewing for a waitlist seat, however, they do also state they give out acceptances until March.
 
Interviewed here first week of November and haven't heard a word. Anyone in the same boat?
 
mufamuscles said:
Just got the call from Dr. Heinrich - accepted ED! I interviewed on 7/25, so it's been about three weeks. Good luck to everybody and congratulations to my future classmates!
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CONGRATS!! Do you mind telling us your stats? I'm thinking of applying ED next cycle.
 
Albert Einstein has a similar situation with two waitlists, one priority and one regular. And people who express a strong interest have gotten accepted from the regular waitlist before those on the priority one. So if you are truly interested in the school I would definitely keep them aware of your interest
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Thanks for the reply. I hope this is true for NJMS as well! I guess all I can do is keep showing that I'm very much interested and just hope that it's enough.
 
14app91 said:
Interviewed here first week of November and haven't heard a word. Anyone in the same boat?
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I interviewed here late November and still haven't heard back. They said 4-6 weeks 8 weeks ago.
 
Libsky said:
I interviewed here late November and still haven't heard back. They said 4-6 weeks 8 weeks ago.
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I have heard that often times the bottleneck in the decision making process is the length of time it takes your interviewer to submit their interview feedback. The PI of my lab likes to tell the story of this one student he had working for him who was a "shoe-in" at NJMS (great stats, good ECs, and an excellent letter personally written for him by my PI who is a faculty member) but he ended up not hearing back for many months and then was rejected. He ended up getting into Penn State, so he wasn't too worried about it. But he and my PI ended up checking in with the Admissions office, and apparently his interviewer forgot to submit his evaluation -- so his application never went before the committee. Essentially, his application was treated as though he never showed up for interview day.

On second thought, that is probably not an encouraging story to tell you. All I can tell you is that when I had my interview, my tour guide said he interviewed in September and wasn't accepted until December. So sometimes it can take a while.
 
wiloghby said:
I have heard that often times the bottleneck in the decision making process is the length of time it takes your interviewer to submit their interview feedback. The PI of my lab likes to tell the story of this one student he had working for him who was a "shoe-in" at NJMS (great stats, good ECs, and an excellent letter personally written for him by my PI who is a faculty member) but he ended up not hearing back for many months and then was rejected. He ended up getting into Penn State, so he wasn't too worried about it. But he and my PI ended up checking in with the Admissions office, and apparently his interviewer forgot to submit his evaluation -- so his application never went before the committee. Essentially, his application was treated as though he never showed up for interview day.

On second thought, that is probably not an encouraging story to tell you. All I can tell you is that when I had my interview, my tour guide said he interviewed in September and wasn't accepted until December. So sometimes it can take a while.
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wiloghby said:
I have heard that often times the bottleneck in the decision making process is the length of time it takes your interviewer to submit their interview feedback. The PI of my lab likes to tell the story of this one student he had working for him who was a "shoe-in" at NJMS (great stats, good ECs, and an excellent letter personally written for him by my PI who is a faculty member) but he ended up not hearing back for many months and then was rejected. He ended up getting into Penn State, so he wasn't too worried about it. But he and my PI ended up checking in with the Admissions office, and apparently his interviewer forgot to submit his evaluation -- so his application never went before the committee. Essentially, his application was treated as though he never showed up for interview day.

On second thought, that is probably not an encouraging story to tell you. All I can tell you is that when I had my interview, my tour guide said he interviewed in September and wasn't accepted until December. So sometimes it can take a while.
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I know you said somewhere else that the class was already filled. I called up and spoke to an admissions representative and she said that it just is not true. There were many people on the waitlist, but they are still interviewing plenty of applicants for direct acceptance.
 
deanthedream17 said:
I know you said somewhere else that the class was already filled. I called up and spoke to an admissions representative and she said that it just is not true. There were many people on the waitlist, but they are still interviewing plenty of applicants for direct acceptance.
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I did not mean that the class was full, as in they were not admitting anyone directly. I meant that they had already admitted 176 or so students already -- i.e. they had already admitted a full class. Most schools will still admit students directly beyond this number because of yield issues. I suspect NJMS accepts at least 300 students outright for their class.

I suspect when Dean Heinrich said at the accepted student breakfast that "We're trying to move the admissions cycle earlier and admit most of our class by December 1" that he meant it, though he probably meant just what I said above..that is admitting close to ~175 by December 1. But if you want to email him and ask him to nail down specifically what he meant, he's really friendly and will surely oblige. Let us know what he says.

If University of Michigan has to admit 350 students to fill a class of 170, I'm sure NJMS does too. So just because the class is filled up by December 1st, doesn't mean that you can't be accepted -- if that makes any sense. They will continue to admit, knowing that they will only yield a certain fraction of those admitted when August rolls around.
 
Priority alternate today. Interviewed 11/7.
 
reapp here, letter of regret today. really frustrating because i was wait listed last year, and this year didn't even get an interview. 3.75/36 IS
 
RegularKID said:
Got accepted here today. Pretty excited, especially because its my first acceptance so far. Interviewed 10/23.
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congratulations! My #1 choice is Rutgers Med School--would u mind sharing your stats please?
 
DrMula said:
congratulations! My #1 choice is Rutgers Med School--would u mind sharing your stats please?
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OOS 3.99 and 36 GPA. Interviewed Oct 23. I got accepted since sometime before thanksgiving, I think. PS...u could have my spot. 😉
 
sirrob said:
reapp here, letter of regret today. really frustrating because i was wait listed last year, and this year didn't even get an interview. 3.75/36 IS
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is it by mail or email?? thanks
 
gcr220 said:
everything he said is pretty good advice except the following bullet point. your interviewer is your advocate and is not looking to see you trip up. they want to see you be accepted so if you do have a very friendly interviewer it's because they're friendly/liked what they saw on your primary app... interviewing is not another competitive screening process. that's already done and over with the mcat, gpa, and extracurrics. now they just want to use the interview to see if you are a good match, and you can't really fake that so although it is very cliche to say... just relax and be yourself. out of all my interviews, the only interviews that were stressful for me were MMI's. traditional interviews allow you to build a rapport with your interviewer with incredible ease. good luck!
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agree that another reason why MMIs are more stressful is because you can't really establish rapport
 
Has anybody heard anything recently? I interviewed back in December and I'm just wondering what the time-frame is for a decision.
 
I recently called admissions and was told they were very behind. I interviewed before you did and still haven't heard back.
 
When does interview season end for NJMS? Considering how quickly they fill up the class, I don't imagine they go into late March or into April. What would this mean for the Waitlisted? Thanks!
 
CaramelSandiego said:
When does interview season end for NJMS? Considering how quickly they fill up the class, I don't imagine they go into late March or into April. What would this mean for the Waitlisted? Thanks!
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+1 I haven't even heard back from them yet!
 
I would love to speak to a current student in 3rd or 4th year who has done some clinical rotations already. I'm trying to decide between a couple of schools, and while I have a first-hand account of the facilities and the faculty, I am concerned about clerkship spots at the best sites being bought out by Caribbean/DO schools with more $$$. The huge advantage in attending NJMS has always been the clinical opportunities. I am concerned that if we're rotating with, say, 20 students instead of 4-5, that hands-on opportunities for any given student will disappear.
 
MS-1 here! I'll answer questions you guys might have. I'm also out of state (though I got in state tuition hehe).

Some things that you should know.

-NJMS and RWJ both have great match lists. You won't be doing yourself a disservice by going into either one. In fact, NJMS is amazing if you have any aspirations for neurosurgery. We're second in the country behind Columbia last time I checked.

-The anatomy program here is a hit or a miss. It's a huge hit for me though. It's NOT lecture based which means that you only need to come to class about 3 times a week most weeks. They give you objectives that you have to learn and you work on them in a group of 6 people per cadaver. ALSO, the staff is AMAZING. Dr. Defouw and Dr. Varacchio (not good with spelling his name) and Dr. Grace are really kind and passionate people. One thing I REALLY emphasize is that this anatomy course is on high yield topics as opposed to knowing everything in the body, which many schools do. This makes it better in terms of studying for national shelf exams and board exams (anatomy is only 5% of the boards) and also having less to learn! For example, we almost completely skipped out on foot anatomy which is irrelevant clinically unless you're doing podiatry.

-There's no campus gym unfortunately. You'll need to buy a membership to local ones.

-The student clinic is a great way to practice the practical stuff you learn. If you get 40 clinic visits, you get 4 weeks off during 4th year. This is a win-win. There are other such opportunities at NJMS.

-The vast majority of lectures are not mandatory attendance. They're all recorded on itunes and the school website within the day so many people don't go to class and just watch lectures at 1.5X speed on VLC.

-Lecturers for the most part are average.

-Living at 180 west market street offers a lot of convenience. School is literally right next door across the street. Rents are very high though so take that into account.

-Newark is Newark. You likely won't get robbed or hurt if you use common sense. If you live at 180 west market street, you won't have to step outside the building to get home because there's a tunnel connecting you to the parking garage.
 
priority waitlisted 02/07 after interviewing 12/09. I really really want this school >.<
 
misteratoz said:
MS-1 here! I'll answer questions you guys might have. I'm also out of state (though I got in state tuition hehe).

Some things that you should know.

-NJMS and RWJ both have great match lists. You won't be doing yourself a disservice by going into either one. In fact, NJMS is amazing if you have any aspirations for neurosurgery. We're second in the country behind Columbia last time I checked.

-The anatomy program here is a hit or a miss. It's a huge hit for me though. It's NOT lecture based which means that you only need to come to class about 3 times a week most weeks. They give you objectives that you have to learn and you work on them in a group of 6 people per cadaver. ALSO, the staff is AMAZING. Dr. Defouw and Dr. Varacchio (not good with spelling his name) and Dr. Grace are really kind and passionate people. One thing I REALLY emphasize is that this anatomy course is on high yield topics as opposed to knowing everything in the body, which many schools do. This makes it better in terms of studying for national shelf exams and board exams (anatomy is only 5% of the boards) and also having less to learn! For example, we almost completely skipped out on foot anatomy which is irrelevant clinically unless you're doing podiatry.

-There's no campus gym unfortunately. You'll need to buy a membership to local ones.

-The student clinic is a great way to practice the practical stuff you learn. If you get 40 clinic visits, you get 4 weeks off during 4th year. This is a win-win. There are other such opportunities at NJMS.

-The vast majority of lectures are not mandatory attendance. They're all recorded on itunes and the school website within the day so many people don't go to class and just watch lectures at 1.5X speed on VLC.

-Lecturers for the most part are average.

-Living at 180 west market street offers a lot of convenience. School is literally right next door across the street. Rents are very high though so take that into account.

-Newark is Newark. You likely won't get robbed or hurt if you use common sense. If you live at 180 west market street, you won't have to step outside the building to get home because there's a tunnel connecting you to the parking garage.
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I would love to go to NJMS...would you recommend applying with a 29 the 1st week of June or applying with a 31 in July? (Yes, I know its rolling admission) (Reason I'm asking is because I'm registered in March but I'm still scoring mid 20s and looks like I may need to reschedule to get the 30+) (Also, I'm a NJ resident-Rutgers/NJIT undergrad)

Any advice would be helpful, thanks.
 
wiloghby said:
I would love to speak to a current student in 3rd or 4th year who has done some clinical rotations already. I'm trying to decide between a couple of schools, and while I have a first-hand account of the facilities and the faculty, I am concerned about clerkship spots at the best sites being bought out by Caribbean/DO schools with more $$$. The huge advantage in attending NJMS has always been the clinical opportunities. I am concerned that if we're rotating with, say, 20 students instead of 4-5, that hands-on opportunities for any given student will disappear.
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I would love to go to NJMS...would you recommend applying with a 29 the 1st week of June or applying with a 31 in July? (Yes, I know its rolling admission) (Reason I'm asking is because I'm registered in March but I'm still scoring mid 20s and looks like I may need to reschedule to get the 30+) (Also, I'm a NJ resident-Rutgers/NJIT undergrad)

Any advice would be helpful, thanks.
 
I would love to go to NJMS...would you recommend applying with a 29 the 1st week of June or applying with a 31 in July? (Yes, I know its rolling admission) (Reason I'm asking is because I'm registered in March but I'm still scoring mid 20s and looks like I may need to reschedule to get the 30+) (Also, I'm a NJ resident-Rutgers/NJIT undergrad)

Any advice would be helpful, thanks.
 
Apply with a 31 in July. My application was not complete until 8/26 and I was invited to interview a week later. It's not a big deal as long as you are complete by the end of the summer.

PS Make sure you actually get a 31 if you apply in July though. A 29 in June is a better than a 29 in July.
 
wiloghby said:
Apply with a 31 in July. My application was not complete until 8/26 and I was invited to interview a week later. It's not a big deal as long as you are complete by the end of the summer.

PS Make sure you actually get a 31 if you apply in July though. A 29 in June is a better than a 29 in July.
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Thanks for replying, I was thinking the same thing too.

Did you send out your primary application in June and then take the exam in August and have AAMC automatically update your application or did you send the score and your primary application together in August? (Excuse my ignorance, I'm not 100% sure what the difference is between primary vs secondary applications).
 
I took the MCAT in April, and submitted my primary in June. I took some time to submit my secondary.. I believe I submitted it the first week in August. But that was all irrelevant because it took until 8/26 or so for my committee letter to be uploaded to the AMCAS Letter Service.

Your primary application is what you submit via the AMCAS portal: http://aamc.org/amcas

You'll designate which schools you are applying to on your AMCAS primary application. Once it is submitted and verified, schools will begin sending you secondary applications via e-mail.

You then submit the secondary applications (the emails you get are specific on how to do this) to each school individually.

After you secondaries have been received and all your letters of rec are in, you will be considered for interviews.
 
wiloghby said:
I took the MCAT in April, and submitted my primary in June. I took some time to submit my secondary.. I believe I submitted it the first week in August. But that was all irrelevant because it took until 8/26 or so for my committee letter to be uploaded to the AMCAS Letter Service.

Your primary application is what you submit via the AMCAS portal: http://aamc.org/amcas

You'll designate which schools you are applying to on your AMCAS primary application. Once it is submitted and verified, schools will begin sending you secondary applications via e-mail.

You then submit the secondary applications (the emails you get are specific on how to do this) to each school individually.

After you secondaries have been received and all your letters of rec are in, you will be considered for interviews.
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Thanks a lot for the advice/help! much appreciated
 
DrMula said:
I would love to go to NJMS...would you recommend applying with a 29 the 1st week of June or applying with a 31 in July? (Yes, I know its rolling admission) (Reason I'm asking is because I'm registered in March but I'm still scoring mid 20s and looks like I may need to reschedule to get the 30+) (Also, I'm a NJ resident-Rutgers/NJIT undergrad)

Any advice would be helpful, thanks.
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1 piece of advice that I would give to anyone applying to any medschool (especially NJMS because of how quick they respond) is get your transcripts in ASAP. Right when your spring semester grades are up, get your transcript request forms ready and send your transcripts to AMCAS. Your application does not have to be complete, but getting your transcripts in early and having them received by AMCAS will save you a huge headache when it comes to verifying your primary. I had friends submit their primary, then wait a month for secondaries because their primaries wern't verified. There is a high volume of students submitting a crap load of things to AMCAS, so it takes time to sort out. My primary was verified less than 24 hours after submission.

Also, don't worry so much about the your MCAT date/score release. You can still submit your primary, have it verified, receive/submit secondaries without a posted MCAT score. I took my MCAT's July 13th last year, but had my primary already submitted and verified a week before that. My scores wern't released until mid August, but I had already received/submitted my secondary to NJMS. My application was ready for review the day my MCAT was released.

O and just review the hell out of your apps, have like 5 people look at it for grammatical errors. Don't let something so simple be a reason to why you wern't accepted. Actually, anything you send to AMCAS or the school just review and check like 4 times. It wont hurt, prob make you a little paranoid/insane, but screw it were all a lil crazy for applying in the first place.

Good Luck
 
Ostensibly because both RWJ and NJMS are merged under the header "Rutgers BHS", NJMS has provided US News with all the info they request each year for their best medical schools list. That means, for the first time, NJMS is no longer an Unranked school.

So if you want to check out admissions stats (probably not useful this time of year), or look at the average STEP scores under academics, NJMS actually has data now.

The rankings themselves are pretty useless. But there's a lot of good data in there.
 
So, here's a quick piece of advice - if you changed your phone number between the day you interviewed and now, contact NJMS with your new number ASAP. I interviewed in early December and got my phone stolen the next day. Later on, I posted up my new number on AMCAS and hit a few months of silence from every school I interviewed at. It was horrible. Soon, it hit late February and I still hadn't heard anything.

Well, I called up the schools on a whim and found out I had been accepted many (many) months ago, but none of the schools could reach me by phone. So ... I was freaking out over the past few months for no reason lol.

So, if your number changed, call NJMS admissions as soon as possible! I'll see you guys in the fall!
 
They sent out the final wave of pre-interview rejections today. Sorry to everyone (like me) who didn't get a chance. Good luck to all of you who did!
 
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