2013-2014 Texas A&M Application Thread

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Just got the email my application was released. Rejection hurts.
From the way the email was worded, it sounds like they are rejecting BOTH those who didn't interview and some applicants who did interview but don't qualify. Can anybody confirm this? The latter rejection seems unusual to me considering the match has not even occurred. I guess if you aren't rejected today then you have a VERY HIGH chance of matching here. That should be comforting to some.
 
From the way the email was worded, it sounds like they are rejecting BOTH those who didn't interview and some applicants who did interview but don't qualify. Can anybody confirm this? The latter rejection seems unusual to me considering the match has not even occurred. I guess if you aren't rejected today then you have a VERY HIGH chance of matching here. That should be comforting to some.

What exactly did the e-mail say? I highly highly doubt they're rejecting applicants that have interviewed.
 
What exactly did the e-mail say? I highly highly doubt they're rejecting applicants that have interviewed.

"The Texas A&M Health Science Center College of Medicine has concluded its interview season and completed its review of applicants for the Entering Year 2014 Class. I regret to inform you that we are unable to offer you a place at our institution or on our wait-list this year."

Interpret it how you want. I just got the impression that it wasn't only addressed to those who didn't interview. Of course, my own speculation. The only way to know for sure is if someone interviewed and got the rejection email.
 
"The Texas A&M Health Science Center College of Medicine has concluded its interview season and completed its review of applicants for the Entering Year 2014 Class. I regret to inform you that we are unable to offer you a place at our institution or on our wait-list this year."

Interpret it how you want. I just got the impression that it wasn't only addressed to those who didn't interview. Of course, my own speculation. The only way to know for sure is if someone interviewed and got the rejection email.

Okay so I called admissions and it looks like some people that have interviewed DID receive this email. But the guy on the phone sounded confused as hell, as if I was asking him some crazy ass complicated question, so I'm not really sure.

Edit: Yeah, only way to know for sure is to see if anyone that interviewed on SDN got that email.
 
Does anyone know how to accept a pre match offer on TMDSAS?
You do not accept pre-match offers on TMDSAS, you can only withdraw from them there and rank your schools for the match.

Most schools have their own unique process for accepting their prematch offer, whether it be logging on to some online system or mailing/faxing/emailing a document. There is usually a time window by which you need to have these materials in by. You should have received an email from each school that accepted you with instructions; if you haven't yet, I recommend calling the schools immediately to resolve the problem before your offers expire.
 
Interviewed late Nov and got that rejection email today -_____-
Call admission and he told me to call back in Jan to set up appt with the dean
So depressing...
 
Interviewed late Nov and got that rejection email today -_____-
Call admission and he told me to call back in Jan to set up appt with the dean
So depressing...

How can they reject people already? I don't understand. They're very selective on who they interview, and interview a lot less people than places like SA. What if the classes don't get filled through the match? Regardless, I'm sorry. 🙁
 
Providing that they interview ~700 and give out ~500 offers. Im really struck at my rejection so early. My interview got a little politic and i feel it did not go so well, but early rejection still hurts
 
Interviewed late Nov and got that rejection email today -_____-
Call admission and he told me to call back in Jan to set up appt with the dean
So depressing...
Sorry to hear. Not sure how A&M can afford to do post interview rejections before match considering that alot of students rank other schools ahead of A&M. If anyone should be doing post interview rejections before match, it ought to be UTSW. That said, i assume A&M knows what they are doing. But it would be interesting to see A&M's class underfilled bc they sent too many rejections, and then they have to beg you to go there. Anyway, i do hope you match to another school, maybe one you were going to rank higher anyway!
 
Sorry to hear. Not sure how A&M can afford to do post interview rejections before match considering that alot of students rank other schools ahead of A&M. If anyone should be doing post interview rejections before match, it ought to be UTSW. That said, i assume A&M knows what they are doing. But it would be interesting to see A&M's class underfilled bc they sent too many rejections, and then they have to beg you to go there. Anyway, i do hope you match to another school, maybe one you were going to rank higher anyway!
They're almost certainly in no danger of this happening. Actually A&M's problem in recent years has been overfilling their class, not underfilling it. I can't imagine having to defer medical school for another year because they over-accepted. Therefore, while it's unfortunate they've already begun to go out, sending rejections this early is cautious, rather than reckless as you imply.

Also where did you find TMDSAS applicant rank list data? I've never seen that before, curious as to where that's coming from.

@amy1209 Sorry to hear about your bad news, good luck to you for the rest of your cycle.
 
"The Texas A&M Health Science Center College of Medicine has concluded its interview season and completed its review of applicants for the Entering Year 2014 Class. I regret to inform you that we are unable to offer you a place at our institution or on our wait-list this year."

Interpret it how you want. I just got the impression that it wasn't only addressed to those who didn't interview. Of course, my own speculation. The only way to know for sure is if someone interviewed and got the rejection email.

Going back to my earlier post, this fact would be synonymous with the info I found in the 08/09 thread when they "weed ~ 100s of interviewers" who then "do not enter the match." I think in previous years they have been doing this but maybe it's just this year they explicitly sent that email out to interviewers, probably to not give interviewers who they already weeded out a false hope of matching.

Interviewed late Nov and got that rejection email today -_____-
Call admission and he told me to call back in Jan to set up appt with the dean
So depressing...

Definitely sorry to hear about that. But I'm curious (along with other posters) why they decide to do that especially since they only interview applicants they are truly interested in and since they do not interview as much as other schools.

I heard they placed a strong emphasis on community service, working with disadvantaged, and primary care (maybe even more so then other schools). Did you have/stress during the interview a lot of these experiences in your application?
 
They're almost certainly in no danger of this happening. Actually A&M's problem in recent years has been overfilling their class, not underfilling it. I can't imagine having to defer medical school for another year because they over-accepted. Therefore, while it's unfortunate they've already begun to go out, sending rejections this early is cautious, rather than reckless as you imply.

Also where did you find TMDSAS applicant rank list data? I've never seen that before, curious as to where that's coming from.

@amy1209 Sorry to hear about your bad news, good luck to you for the rest of your cycle.
By applicant rank list data i assume you are referring to data on how applicants choose to rank the schools they interviewed at.
I dont have applicant rank lists data. TMDSAS does not release this info. They do release total number of prematches and matches for each school. In 2013, A&M extended 351 prematches and match offers to fill a class of 200. So 151 prematch offers were rejected by the applicant most likely bc they ranked another school higher. In 2013, UTSW extended 285 prematches and match offers to fill a class of 230. So 55 prematch offers were rejected by the applicant most likely because they ranked another school higher. This is the basic data i use to assume that applicants in general rank UTSW higher than A&M. Obviously it is not conclusive data, but it lets you make a generalization. Which initiates my claim that UTSW could easily send out 500 rejections bc they interviewed 868 last year and offered 285, while A&M ought to be cautious bc they interviewed 647 and offered 351. The total amount of offers does not include applicants who didnt prematch or match but wouldve matched if they had ranked the school high enough. You must keep this in mind; this is the statistic that we do not have. But like i said, im sure A&M knows what they are doing.
 
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By applicant rank list data i assume you are referring to data on how applicants choose to rank the schools they interviewed at.
I dont have applicant rank lists data. TMDSAS does not release this info. They do release total number of prematches and matches for each school. In 2013, A&M extended 351 prematches and match offers to fill a class of 200. So 151 prematch offers were rejected by the applicant most likely bc they ranked another school higher. In 2013, UTSW extended 285 prematches and match offers to fill a class of 230. So 55 prematch offers were rejected by the applicant most likely because they ranked another school higher. This is the basic data i use to assume that applicants in general rank UTSW higher than A&M. Obviously it is not conclusive data, but it lets you make a generalization. Which initiates my claim that UTSW could easily send out 500 rejections bc they interviewed 868 last year and offered 285, while A&M ought to be cautious bc they interviewed 647 and offered 351. The total amount of offers does not include applicants who didnt prematch or match but wouldve matched if they had ranked the school high enough. You must keep this in mind; this is the statistic that we do not have. But like i said, im sure A&M knows what they are doing.

I don't think this is true. Pretty sure on interview day they gave us a packet that showed A&M accepting over 500 people, meaning hundreds ranked another school over A&M
 
2013 Entering class: 2694 applied. 714 total interviewed. 516 acceptances offered. GPA/ MCAT of applicants: 3.56/28. GPA/MCAT Matriculated: 3.68/29. 11 non-residents matriculated (class size of 200).
 
By applicant rank list data i assume you are referring to data on how applicants choose to rank the schools they interviewed at.
I dont have applicant rank lists data. TMDSAS does not release this info. They do release total number of prematches and matches for each school. In 2013, A&M extended 351 prematches and match offers to fill a class of 200. So 151 prematch offers were rejected by the applicant most likely bc they ranked another school higher. In 2013, UTSW extended 285 prematches and match offers to fill a class of 230. So 55 prematch offers were rejected by the applicant most likely because they ranked another school higher. This is the basic data i use to assume that applicants in general rank UTSW higher than A&M. Obviously it is not conclusive data, but it lets you make a generalization. Which initiates my claim that UTSW could easily send out 500 rejections bc they interviewed 868 last year and offered 285, while A&M ought to be cautious bc they interviewed 647 and offered 351. The total amount of offers does not include applicants who didnt prematch or match but wouldve matched if they had ranked the school high enough. You must keep this in mind; this is the statistic that we do not have. But like i said, im sure A&M knows what they are doing.
I know that data doesn't exist, hence my incredulous reply.

Why on earth are you talking about UTSW? Your original post didn't say anything about that school and neither did I. In fact what you said was "a lot of applicants rank A&M lower than other schools. And now you're supporting this assertion by comparing A&M to the highest ranked TX school that participates in the match. I'm not saying that your point is necessarily completely incorrect, but it is 1. Totally irrelevant to the circumstance of one applicant who was rejected 2. Stated as absolutely true when in fact it is based on conjecture and extrapolation 3. Somewhat ignorant because it fails to consider the context of A&Ms recent difficulties of OVERaccepting, not under accepting.

If you're "so sure" that these admissions professionals know what they're doing then I'm confused as to why you felt the need to disgorge this incendiary non sequitur about A&M's admission practices.

Thanks for stopping by the thread.
 
I don't think this is true. Pretty sure on interview day they gave us a packet that showed A&M accepting over 500 people, meaning hundreds ranked another school over A&M
2013 Entering class: 2694 applied. 714 total interviewed. 516 acceptances offered. GPA/ MCAT of applicants: 3.56/28. GPA/MCAT Matriculated: 3.68/29. 11 non-residents matriculated (class size of 200).

If you look at my post the page before, there were not as much offers in the previous years. Therefore, I think there's a false sense of hope especially since it will inevitably vary. But I'm surprised it varied that much.

Here was my original data:
2009-2010:433 offers /762
2011-2012: 307 offers /661
2012-2013: 516/ offers /714
 
If you look at my post the page before, there were not as much offers in the previous years. Therefore, I think there's a false sense of hope especially since it will inevitably vary. But I'm surprised it varied that much.

Here was my original data:
2009-2010:433 offers /762
2011-2012: 307 offers /661
2012-2013: 516/ offers /714

307 to 516 offers in one year. jesus christ dude
 
307 to 516 offers in one year. jesus christ dude
I would assume they got really conservative right after they overaccepted and have been ratcheting up acceptances back to normal recently. Not sure if that is the real explanation for this, if we had data going back a few more years I think we'd have a better sense of it.
 
I know that data doesn't exist, hence my incredulous reply.

Why on earth are you talking about UTSW? Your original post didn't say anything about that school and neither did I. In fact what you said was "a lot of applicants rank A&M lower than other schools. And now you're supporting this assertion by comparing A&M to the highest ranked TX school that participates in the match. I'm not saying that your point is necessarily completely incorrect, but it is 1. Totally irrelevant to the circumstance of one applicant who was rejected 2. Stated as absolutely true when in fact it is based on conjecture and extrapolation 3. Somewhat ignorant because it fails to consider the context of A&Ms recent difficulties of OVERaccepting, not under accepting.

If you're "so sure" that these admissions professionals know what they're doing then I'm confused as to why you felt the need to disgorge this incendiary non sequitur about A&M's admission practices.

Thanks for stopping by the thread.

I made the statement that if anyone should be rejecting students post interview and before the match it would be UTSW. I had assumed your reply was towards this statement, and thus i used the weak statistics i did have to back it up.
Everyone else appears to be saying 714 interviews and 516, which is significantly different from the 647 interviews and 351 offers i had. Im assuming yall are right and my numbers are wrong, but i will upload the stat chart i used.

Now i have a hunch that the 516 includes prematches, matches, and those who would have matched had they ranked A&M first. Again just a guess to try to account for the differences in numbers. Under this condition, we could say that 151 prematched to A&M and ranked another school higher and 165 would have matched to A&M but instead ranked another school higher. So a total of 316 got in/ wouldve got in but ranked another school higher and a total of 200 got in and stayed in. All the numbers are rough bc they do not include rolling admission etc.

Also, i dont know how to account for the chart i used saying 647 interviews and everyone else saying 714. So ill leave it at that. Feel free to draw your own conclusions, make your own generalizations, ignore my calculations, or whatever you want.
 

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If you look at my post the page before, there were not as much offers in the previous years. Therefore, I think there's a false sense of hope especially since it will inevitably vary. But I'm surprised it varied that much.

Here was my original data:
2009-2010:433 offers /762
2011-2012: 307 offers /661
2012-2013: 516/ offers /714

The difference in numbers appears to be a difference in the source being used. Please see the file i just uploaded one post above. It fits in with your 2012 numbers and my 2013 numbers.
If you stick with my source, then you get

2011-2012: 307/661
2012-2013: 351/647
 
The difference in numbers appears to be a difference in the source being used. Please see the file i just uploaded one post above. It fits in with your 2012 numbers and my 2013 numbers.

Here's something that I think may explain the differences.

I believe the TAACP report compiles of only Texas acceptances/interviews AT Match day. But maybe, the 516 acceptances / 714 interviewed (what A&M provided us) includes OOS interviewers AND acceptances from the waiting list, from Feb 1 to the start of classes.

Perhaps that may be where the discrepancy lies.
 
I had found my data via a user from previous year threads who claimed it was from USNEWS.

I believe the TAACP report compiles of only Texas acceptances/interviews AT Match day. But maybe, the 516 acceptances / 714 interviewed (what A&M provided us) includes OOS interviewers AND acceptances from the waiting list.

Perhaps that may be where the discrepancy lies.

That would still mean 316 people chose another school over A&M. Very strange
 
That would still mean 316 people chose another school over A&M. Very strange
I mean I was under the impression that most schools in TX end up accepting roughly double their class size, so it doesn't surprise me.
 
Here's something that I think may explain the differences.

I believe the TAACP report compiles of only Texas acceptances/interviews AT Match day. But maybe, the 516 acceptances / 714 interviewed (what A&M provided us) includes OOS interviewers AND acceptances from the waiting list, from Feb 1 to the start of classes.

Perhaps that may be where the discrepancy lies.

http://www.taahp.net/documents/2013/TAAHPReport2013.pdf

Check page 11. Stats for Entering Year 2013 is 351/647, which is different than the 516/714 reported by A&M on Interview Day. Notice that at the bottom of the page it states "The offers stated are through Feb. 1 of each respective year and includes prematch offers and results of the match. Somer offers were declined, others will be declined and additional offers may be made from alternative list.."

The report clearly states that this number >>351/647<< includes all applicants interviewed and all offers extended by A&M on that given year through Feb 1, but excludes offers made from the wait list.

I am confused as well and do not know which set of numbers to believe in.
 
http://www.taahp.net/documents/2013/TAAHPReport2013.pdf

Check page 11. Stats for Entering Year 2013 is 351/647, which is different than the 516/714 reported by A&M on Interview Day. Notice that at the bottom of the page it states "The offers stated are through Feb. 1 of each respective year and includes prematch offers and results of the match. Somer offers were declined, others will be declined and additional offers may be made from alternative list.."

The report clearly states that this number >>351/647<< includes all applicants interviewed and all offers extended by A&M on that given year through Feb 1, but excludes offers made from the wait list.

I am confused as well and do not know which set of numbers to believe in.
Personally I would trust the numbers provided at the latest possible date by the school itself.

In any event I'm not sure that this discussion is particularly productive. A&M accepts a generous portion of its interview pool.
 
http://www.taahp.net/documents/2013/TAAHPReport2013.pdf

Check page 11. Stats for Entering Year 2013 is 351/647, which is different than the 516/714 reported by A&M on Interview Day. Notice that at the bottom of the page it states "The offers stated are through Feb. 1 of each respective year and includes prematch offers and results of the match. Somer offers were declined, others will be declined and additional offers may be made from alternative list.."

The report clearly states that this number >>351/647<< includes all applicants interviewed and all offers extended by A&M on that given year through Feb 1, but excludes offers made from the wait list.

I am confused as well and do not know which set of numbers to believe in.
The biggest issue between the numbers is the total amount interviewed. The differences in acceptances could be post match, but im pretty sure no interviews took place after the match.

You ought to believe the A&M numbers though. Say they interviewed 714 and accepted 516. Now assume A&M made a ranked list of all their interviewees. Everyone on the hypothetical list who was ranked 1-516 got in. Everyone who was ranked 517-714 got rejected. Of those ranked 1-516, some prematched, some matched, some matched into a higher ranked school, and some got in through the waitlist.
I think this is the correct way to look at it for all yall who interviewed.
 
The biggest issue between the numbers is the total amount interviewed. The differences in acceptances could be post match, but im pretty sure no interviews took place after the match.

You ought to believe the A&M numbers though. Say they interviewed 714 and accepted 516. Now assume A&M made a ranked list of all their interviewees. Everyone on the hypothetical list who was ranked 1-516 got in. Everyone who was ranked 517-714 got rejected. Of those ranked 1-516, some prematched, some matched, some matched into a higher ranked school, and some got in through the waitlist.
I think this is the correct way to look at it for all yall who interviewed.

Correct, I agree. I wonder how many rejections went out today...hmmmm
 
Correct, I agree. I wonder how many rejections went out today...hmmmm

So yeah maybe thats the difference between the 714 and the 647. Maybe they interviewed 714, rejected 67 and went into match with 647. Of those 647, 516 got in. Again, just speculation. But being optimistic, those who interviewed and werent rejected today may have odds around 516/647. 80%. This should be very comforting. 🙂
 
Going back to my earlier post, this fact would be synonymous with the info I found in the 08/09 thread when they "weed ~ 100s of interviewers" who then "do not enter the match." I think in previous years they have been doing this but maybe it's just this year they explicitly sent that email out to interviewers, probably to not give interviewers who they already weeded out a false hope of matching.



Definitely sorry to hear about that. But I'm curious (along with other posters) why they decide to do that especially since they only interview applicants they are truly interested in and since they do not interview as much as other schools.

I heard they placed a strong emphasis on community service, working with disadvantaged, and primary care (maybe even more so then other schools). Did you have/stress during the interview a lot of these experiences in your application?

Thanks for the comforting words. I had a late decision about applying to med school, so my EC weren't that outstanding. Been out of school for a few years. I talk about volunteer for the VA, tutor for Upward Bound and first generation college students, volunteer for church (I didnt include this in my TMDSAS since its on a random basis, which I explain during the interview). They do seem to stress on primary care based on their presentation, I just honestly told them that I'm not so sure about it yet
 
Are any of you bringing parents to the second look in B/CS? I didn't know if people usually do, but my family wanted to see the area.
 
Are any of you bringing parents to the second look in B/CS? I didn't know if people usually do, but my family wanted to see the area.
I'm not going to the BCS second look, but I will be at the Temple one. I'm not planning on bringing my folks (they hate traveling). I went to the acceptance luncheon last month, and plenty of people brought their parents.

Since the second looks are not taking place during an actual interview day, my guess would be that you could safely bring parents with a relatively minimal amount of awkwardness. Just my thoughts, hope this helps.
 
Anyone know when the Second look at Temple will be?
 
Any of you cats recall A&M's testing schedule with the system of phases?
 
For the fall, we pretty much had an exam every three weeks with a cumulative "barrier" NBME exam at the end of the semester. I think that the spring is roughly the same but the exams are a little bit shorter because there is no gross anatomy lab component. There is an NBME exams at the end of the spring as well.
 
I can't find my notes I wrote from the interview day on the curriculum!! Can any of you give me an overview of a typical week in terms of are you in class everyday all day, do you have some afternoons off etc? Thank you!!
 
I can't find my notes I wrote from the interview day on the curriculum!! Can any of you give me an overview of a typical week in terms of are you in class everyday all day, do you have some afternoons off etc? Thank you!!
I can't provide anything too specific but I've been in contact with the MS2 who interviewed me. I asked her a similar question and this was her reply:

"During your first year here, especially first semester, you have the most mandatory classes because of mandatory histology and anatomy labs that are several times a week. Second semester, you have neuroscience lab for half the semester. For the 2nd half of second semester and after first year, you don’t have labs. Most lectures outside of labs are optional. All lectures are video recorded and posted to the school’s website the same day. Once you get into the swing of things, you will quickly discover whether going to class or watching recorded lectures will be better for you. In addition to labs, there are other once weekly mandatory classes including “Becoming a Physician” and “Clinical Skills” and maybe another mandatory class thrown in there every week. On average, I’d say there are 5 mandatory classes a week, including labs, during your first year (~10 hours/week) and 3 mandatory classes a week (~6 hours/week) during your second year. "
 
I can't provide anything too specific but I've been in contact with the MS2 who interviewed me. I asked her a similar question and this was her reply:

"During your first year here, especially first semester, you have the most mandatory classes because of mandatory histology and anatomy labs that are several times a week. Second semester, you have neuroscience lab for half the semester. For the 2nd half of second semester and after first year, you don’t have labs. Most lectures outside of labs are optional. All lectures are video recorded and posted to the school’s website the same day. Once you get into the swing of things, you will quickly discover whether going to class or watching recorded lectures will be better for you. In addition to labs, there are other once weekly mandatory classes including “Becoming a Physician” and “Clinical Skills” and maybe another mandatory class thrown in there every week. On average, I’d say there are 5 mandatory classes a week, including labs, during your first year (~10 hours/week) and 3 mandatory classes a week (~6 hours/week) during your second year. "
Thanks for the information!!
 
Does anyone know when/how the assignment of temple vs CS/B works? Is there somewhere where I can read about it.

i will also be attending the Temple second look on 1/16.
 
Does anyone know when/how the assignment of temple vs CS/B works? Is there somewhere where I can read about it.

i will also be attending the Temple second look on 1/16.
I only have a rough idea so hopefully we can get a more authoritative perspective. From what I understand, at some point after match day but well before matriculation, we will be contacted and asked to enter our preferences (I believe with a supporting paragraph or so about why we want a particular track as considerations are given for family reasons or ties to that area, or so I have been told). I haven't heard much about track selection either, but I'm confident we'll get all the information we need in due time to make a good decision. If a better understanding of the process is critical for how you will build your TMDSAS rank list, you should ask at second look. If you aren't going to one, I'd be happy to ask for you and everyone in general. Once I have the info I will post it here, unless a current student can oblige us.

Anyone remember if they have course syllabi here so you know exactly what's required for tests?
Again, I'm not 100% sure on this but I asked about this before and I believe the answer was no (it's not like SW where you purchase a handout with literally all the information). That said I'm sure the expectations are still very clear.
 
Does anyone know when/how the assignment of temple vs CS/B works? Is there somewhere where I can read about it.

Admissions informed me that our campus designations will be due around the middle of February. I was also sent information that might be of use to you:

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The class of 200 will be divided in this manner for the first two years of your MD training – 130 in Bryan/College Station and 70 in Temple. The campus designations options are included below.
  • 4-years Bryan/College Station and Houston
  • 4-years Temple
  • 2+2 B/CS-Dallas
  • 2+2 B/CS-Round Rock
  • 2+2 B/CS-Temple
  • 2+2 Temple-Round Rock
The College of Medicine website (http://medicine.tamhsc.edu/campuses/) will be particularly helpful in learning more about each campus community except for our Dallas campus because that page is still in production (See paragraph below). Click on the campus community of your choice and then navigate to your campus of choice. There you will find pertinent information about the community, the campus Dean and other important contacts, clerkship directors/coordinators and more. We urge you to peruse each carefully.

Training at the Dallas campus will be provided by not only the reputable Baylor University Medical Center (BUMC) but two other important and very well-known clinical affiliates, namely Timberland Psychiatric Hospital and Cooks Children’s Hospital in Fort Worth. These three highly respectable institutions will deliver training across the six standard clerkships in the third year and the required didactics, acting internships and electives in the fourth year.
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You are right! Feb 1 had stuck in my mind from when Leila explained the match process
 
Has anyone received driving directions/parking/etc.. to temple second look in 6 days?
 
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