2014-2015 Brown University Application Thread

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cookiemonsters said:
I just visited Brown medical school while in Providence. LOL don't believe the pics you see online, it is by far the ugliest medical school building I have seen, in a really run down part of the city. Check it out on google street view if you don't believe me. Sucks because Brown's UG campus across the river is beautiful.
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Sadly, the price of having a sweet brand new building with excellent anatomy suites, tons of classrooms and a lot of study space was expansion, and there wasn't much room to grow on the hill. The Jewelry district is growing...there's a nice "farmer's market" on tuesdays in the park across the street with food trucks, vendors, etc., and there are a bunch of research buildings nearby. It's certainly not the quintessential college experience you get on Thayer street, but it's not terrible. I guess I disagree about the building being ugly, though. Or rather, I don't really care what the outside looks like. It's what's inside that counts.
 
Angulimala said:
Sadly, the price of having a sweet brand new building with excellent anatomy suites, tons of classrooms and a lot of study space was expansion, and there wasn't much room to grow on the hill. The Jewelry district is growing...there's a nice "farmer's market" on tuesdays in the park across the street with food trucks, vendors, etc., and there are a bunch of research buildings nearby. It's certainly not the quintessential college experience you get on Thayer street, but it's not terrible. I guess I disagree about the building being ugly, though. Or rather, I don't really care what the outside looks like. It's what's inside that counts.
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I love Thayer street! Brown as a whole seems pretty awesome. I really hope I get a chance to interview here.
 
Angulimala said:
Sadly, the price of having a sweet brand new building with excellent anatomy suites, tons of classrooms and a lot of study space was expansion, and there wasn't much room to grow on the hill. The Jewelry district is growing...there's a nice "farmer's market" on tuesdays in the park across the street with food trucks, vendors, etc., and there are a bunch of research buildings nearby. It's certainly not the quintessential college experience you get on Thayer street, but it's not terrible. I guess I disagree about the building being ugly, though. Or rather, I don't really care what the outside looks like. It's what's inside that counts.
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I love Thayer street! Brown as a whole seems pretty awesome. I really hope I get a chance to interview here.
 
Angulimala said:
Sadly, the price of having a sweet brand new building with excellent anatomy suites, tons of classrooms and a lot of study space was expansion, and there wasn't much room to grow on the hill. The Jewelry district is growing...there's a nice "farmer's market" on tuesdays in the park across the street with food trucks, vendors, etc., and there are a bunch of research buildings nearby. It's certainly not the quintessential college experience you get on Thayer street, but it's not terrible. I guess I disagree about the building being ugly, though. Or rather, I don't really care what the outside looks like. It's what's inside that counts.
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I cannot wait to visit on interview day. I also agree that while aesthetics is one thing to consider, the quality of the education cannot be measured by just that. An Ivy league medical education and its match list is more than enough to trump what it looks like. :soexcited:
 
Angulimala said:
Sadly, the price of having a sweet brand new building with excellent anatomy suites, tons of classrooms and a lot of study space was expansion, and there wasn't much room to grow on the hill. The Jewelry district is growing...there's a nice "farmer's market" on tuesdays in the park across the street with food trucks, vendors, etc., and there are a bunch of research buildings nearby. It's certainly not the quintessential college experience you get on Thayer street, but it's not terrible. I guess I disagree about the building being ugly, though. Or rather, I don't really care what the outside looks like. It's what's inside that counts.
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Also, the main campus is far from the main hospital complex and most of the biomedical research buildings. As a medical student, I'd personally rather be closer to the hospital and research opportunities than the undergrad campus... Just saying.

Plus, I'm guessing that the majority of us have already had something resembling "the quintessential college experience" while in undergrad... ;-)
 
ksyhe said:
Also, the main campus is far from the main hospital complex and most of the biomedical research buildings. As a medical student, I'd personally rather be closer to the hospital and research opportunities than the undergrad campus... Just saying.

Plus, I'm guessing that the majority of us have already had something resembling "the quintessential college experience" while in undergrad... ;-)
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I would definitely rather have a med school building close to the hospital than have it be close to the undergrad campus. More cohesive!


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how long did it take you guys to receive a secondary? my amcas verified on Monday, so its been about 3-4 days and most of my other invites have come in.
 
moonwake said:
Cool - I've heard they accept people with mediocre GPAs or MCATs. Your ECs mean a lot more. I also hear that getting an II means you have a pretty good shot at getting accepted 🙂
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I don't believe Brown screens for secondaries, it just takes a while. If you are offered an interview, you have a high chance of getting accepted.
 
Complete as of 8/7 and now playing the waiting game:xf:
Congrats to everyone that has an interview already!
 
sghos said:
Good to see that they are taking up to a month to hand out IIs. I was complete 08/06so I'm just hoping they show me some love.
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Hope that they have love enough for you AND me!!
 
Does anybody know how strong their global health programs are from personal experience? It is sometimes hard to tell just by looking on the school's website to see whether "global health" is just another one of their programs or is one they try to emphasize in their medical school.
 
kewlboy88 said:
Does anybody know how strong their global health programs are from personal experience? It is sometimes hard to tell just by looking on the school's website to see whether "global health" is just another one of their programs or is one they try to emphasize in their medical school.
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Brown 4th-year here.

I'd say Brown's got a pretty good selection of "global health-y" stuff. There's a scholarly concentration in Global Health, and people have done lots of stuff with that-- research on contraception in Africa, work in Madagascar, clinic stuff in S. America, during the summer after their first year.

Then there's the 3rd and (mostly) 4th year stuff, which is where the rubber meets the road.

I leave for Kenya on Monday, where I'll be for a month of Medicine wards. Brown is part of the AMPATH consortium of schools that works out of Moi teaching hospital in Eldoret, Kenya, and you can make that happen if you're interested. Brown also has connections in the Dominican Republic, Japan, China (Zhejiang), Cambodia (I think) and probably a bunch of other places I don't know about personally. These are places with established rotations.

In addition, if you find something you want to do, you can do it. You're eligible to receive up to 3 months of "independent study" credit. I just got 3 weeks for doing a research project in Providence, but I plan on getting another 4 weeks in the spring by going to Ecuador to work on my Spanish (I know 3 students who did this last year) and work in a clinic.

Hope this is helpful.
 
Angulimala said:
Brown 4th-year here.

I'd say Brown's got a pretty good selection of "global health-y" stuff. There's a scholarly concentration in Global Health, and people have done lots of stuff with that-- research on contraception in Africa, work in Madagascar, clinic stuff in S. America, during the summer after their first year.

Then there's the 3rd and (mostly) 4th year stuff, which is where the rubber meets the road.

I leave for Kenya on Monday, where I'll be for a month of Medicine wards. Brown is part of the AMPATH consortium of schools that works out of Moi teaching hospital in Eldoret, Kenya, and you can make that happen if you're interested. Brown also has connections in the Dominican Republic, Japan, China (Zhejiang), Cambodia (I think) and probably a bunch of other places I don't know about personally. These are places with established rotations.

In addition, if you find something you want to do, you can do it. You're eligible to receive up to 3 months of "independent study" credit. I just got 3 weeks for doing a research project in Providence, but I plan on getting another 4 weeks in the spring by going to Ecuador to work on my Spanish (I know 3 students who did this last year) and work in a clinic.

Hope this is helpful.
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Thank you so much. So, it sounds like you can do clinical electives abroad? I've done global health research in Peru (my Spanish is still meh, but I'm working on it), but am taking this year off to learn Mandarin (I'll be in China soon doing an immersion course). The whole reason for learning Mandarin is so I can go back eventually as a doctor to work on global health initiatives in Asia.

This "scholarly concentration" - does this mean that we take global health classes on top of our typical curriculum and then do a project abroad? How many students typically do rotations abroad?

Again, this is very helpful. It's hard to see whether schools are just saying they do "global health" to keep up with how progressive other schools are, but when you actually research them in depth you realize their program is really subpar. I would really like to end up at a school that has strong presence internationally so I don't have to worry about finding a hospital site myself.
 
kewlboy88 said:
This "scholarly concentration" - does this mean that we take global health classes on top of our typical curriculum and then do a project abroad? How many students typically do rotations abroad?
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The Scholarly Concentration program is an optional academic thing that mostly happens during the first 2 years of med school and usually involves some project (that you get funded for) during the summer after your 1st year.

See:
http://www.brown.edu/academics/medical/education/scholarly-concentration-program

I think about 1/3rd of each class participates in a scholarly concentration. The individual concentrations range in size.
 
Angulimala said:
The Scholarly Concentration program is an optional academic thing that mostly happens during the first 2 years of med school and usually involves some project (that you get funded for) during the summer after your 1st year.

See:
http://www.brown.edu/academics/medical/education/scholarly-concentration-program

I think about 1/3rd of each class participates in a scholarly concentration. The individual concentrations range in size.
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Thank you! You've been so helpful.
 
Sincere congrats to all of you with II's! I have a few questions about entering courses on the secondary if one of you could take the time to answer:

1. If our science courses have separate course numbers for lecture and for lab, should we include both or just the lecture?
2. If we exceed the minimum requirement, should we include all relevant courses?
3. If the answer to #2 is "no," then if we got a higher grade in an upper level course (say "microbio" instead of "general bio I"), can we use that course instead?
4. If the answer to #2 is "no," should we also insert the courses Brown "recommends" but does not require? For example, if you look at their website, they recommend but do not require biochem and genetics.

Best!
 
Has brown only offered II's once? I don't think I've seen anything else since then
 
moonwake said:
Has brown only offered II's once? I don't think I've seen anything else since then
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From what i can tell the first II's were offered Aug 7th. Then only one poster with an Aug 25th II (not sure this one constitutes another round).
 
Complete early august (08/05ish). I'm out?
 
sghos said:
Complete early august (08/05ish). I'm out?
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Come now...how's that even possible 😕. Read above...first and pretty much only round of II's was Aug 7th. It would have been very impressive for them to make it to your app in two days for a II decision. Breathe, next round...next round.:heckyeah:
 
I applied here yesterday. Probably a waste of money, but I have always loved Brown,..went here for a high school program over 10 years ago and actually studied there for a semester in undergrad due to Hurricane Katrina... I have pretty good/great ECs, and a 34 MCAT, but a LizzyM score of only 62. So....yeah.
 
gimme some love Brown pls
I love your school and made my case for loving Global Health ㅠㅠ ..
 
Barely received secondary today... Time to fill out this secondary!

Is there more information about the MD-ScM program other than that intro page?
 
HinduHammer said:
I applied here yesterday. Probably a waste of money, but I have always loved Brown,..went here for a high school program over 10 years ago and actually studied there for a semester in undergrad due to Hurricane Katrina... I have pretty good/great ECs, and a 34 MCAT, but a LizzyM score of only 62. So....yeah.
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Hey, fellow idol worshipper! 🙂 Brown is known for looking past the numbers. Keep the hope! Attract the good energy!
 
BengaliBrat said:
Hey, fellow idol worshipper! 🙂 Brown is known for looking past the numbers. Keep the hope! Attract the good energy!
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I will keep the hope and definitely keep up the good energy!! (it's funny., last weekend we had a ritual at my uncle's new house to cast out the bad energy and bring in the good energy [with many idols] -- hopefully some of it rubbed off on me!!) BTW Loving your positivity BB :happy:
 
I'll keep positive as well. Brown is a dream program for me.
I've got a LizzyM score close to yours, Hammer, but with a low MCAT.
Keeping the faith and trying to ignore the inbox.
 
HinduHammer said:
I will keep the hope and definitely keep up the good energy!! (it's funny., last weekend we had a ritual at my uncle's new house to cast out the bad energy and bring in the good energy [with many idols] -- hopefully some of it rubbed off on me!!) BTW Loving your positivity BB :happy:
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Yes, we had the house blessing, too. I know that I'm finding patience a difficult virtue to maintain, myself. Still, I'm sending some good and positive thoughts your way. Longing is a kind of power!
 
I received an interview on the 25th. What are the odds of an acceptance offer given that I am not a part of the PLME program. Just a global health pre-med from umich? i.e. ratio of admissions offers to interview offers?
 
Did anyone send an update, and if so, did you receive a confirmation? 🙂
 
ConsultantMD said:
Pre II? I guess I'm unsure of when to send them? I thought they were more for post interview.
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I had a few publications so I figured it was big enough for pre-II. Some schools specifically say they don't want them pre-II, I didn't see Brown specify so I sent it. It's basically up to you when to send. I figure the biggest hurdle is getting an II, and that this was a significant update, so I sent to some of my top choices when they started sending IIs and I appeared to be skipped over. Sending earlier basically means that I can't use it as an update later if I'm waitlisted, but I've got some other pubs in progress so I figure I'll have more to update in the future as well.
 
g-baby said:
I received an interview on the 25th. What are the odds of an acceptance offer given that I am not a part of the PLME program. Just a global health pre-med from umich? i.e. ratio of admissions offers to interview offers?
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Brown actually has one of the higher acceptance rates post-II, but are very selective about who they give IIs to.
I'm not exactly sure how to interpret MASR data because of the PLME students, but if we assume all PLME students are not included in the "interviewed" applicants label on the MSAR (i.e. worst odds scenario):
Interviewed: 21 IS, 271 OOS, 6 international
Matriculated (removing PLME students): 7 IS, 67 OOS, 1 international
So your odds are pretty good compared to many other schools, about 1/3 of interviewees matriculate to Brown. Here's to hoping I'm part of that <4% that gets an interview :xf:
 
Just curious, Brown University screens its applicants before sending out secondaries?
 
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