2014-2015 University of Kentucky Application Thread

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accepted OOS today! I was wondering if anybody else is in similar situation as I am in which is deciding between U of Louisville or U of Kentucky, I love them both and was wondering if there are any advantages to attending one over the other. Have to tell UK my decision by Monday afternoon
These are things I will consider if I get accepted to UK as well.
Louisville has a higher crime rate than Lexington.
Louisville's grading system is HP (90%+), Pass, and Fail. UK's is percentage. If you're looking for a less competitive environment, I would say that favors UL's system.
Louisville emphasizes the ability of every student to do procedures and really be involved with treatment. I did not get that impression from UK.
Both have rural track programs.
Both campuses are located in downtown. I got the impression that UL's campus is in a kind of shady area, since it is across the street from a correctional facility. Despite that, the crime map for that part of Louisville does not appear to be bad.
UL has advisory colleges. They are advertised as a way to get closer to other people in your class, but it looks more like a way to limit who you interact with regularly (randomly I assume).
UL seems to have more diversity of extracurricular/community service opportunities. This could be inaccurate, but if UK had much more than the three things listed on their webpage, I think they would demonstrate this fact more obviously.
As far as I know, UL's accreditation is currently on probation but should be restored for the next (15-16) academic year. They said this isn't a big deal, but it doesn't inspire faith in the school when they cannot adapt to standards in medical education quickly enough to avoid probation while almost every other school manages this.
 
These are things I will consider if I get accepted to UK as well.
Louisville has a higher crime rate than Lexington.
Louisville's grading system is HP (90%+), Pass, and Fail. UK's is percentage. If you're looking for a less competitive environment, I would say that favors UL's system.
Louisville emphasizes the ability of every student to do procedures and really be involved with treatment. I did not get that impression from UK.
Both have rural track programs.
Both campuses are located in downtown. I got the impression that UL's campus is in a kind of shady area, since it is across the street from a correctional facility. Despite that, the crime map for that part of Louisville does not appear to be bad.
UL has advisory colleges. They are advertised as a way to get closer to other people in your class, but it looks more like a way to limit who you interact with regularly (randomly I assume).
UL seems to have more diversity of extracurricular/community service opportunities. This could be inaccurate, but if UK had much more than the three things listed on their webpage, I think they would demonstrate this fact more obviously.
As far as I know, UL's accreditation is currently on probation but should be restored for the next (15-16) academic year. They said this isn't a big deal, but it doesn't inspire faith in the school when they cannot adapt to standards in medical education quickly enough to avoid probation while almost every other school manages this.
thank you very much for this insight!
 
does UK have a simulation center, I am pretty sure they mentioned it on the tour but we never had chance to see it
 
These are things I will consider if I get accepted to UK as well.
Louisville has a higher crime rate than Lexington.
Louisville's grading system is HP (90%+), Pass, and Fail. UK's is percentage. If you're looking for a less competitive environment, I would say that favors UL's system.
Louisville emphasizes the ability of every student to do procedures and really be involved with treatment. I did not get that impression from UK.
Both have rural track programs.
Both campuses are located in downtown. I got the impression that UL's campus is in a kind of shady area, since it is across the street from a correctional facility. Despite that, the crime map for that part of Louisville does not appear to be bad.
UL has advisory colleges. They are advertised as a way to get closer to other people in your class, but it looks more like a way to limit who you interact with regularly (randomly I assume).
UL seems to have more diversity of extracurricular/community service opportunities. This could be inaccurate, but if UK had much more than the three things listed on their webpage, I think they would demonstrate this fact more obviously.
As far as I know, UL's accreditation is currently on probation but should be restored for the next (15-16) academic year. They said this isn't a big deal, but it doesn't inspire faith in the school when they cannot adapt to standards in medical education quickly enough to avoid probation while almost every other school manages this.

Just my two cents on a couple of these. With regards to community service at UK, I assume the three you found on their website are the Community Health Fair, Salvation Army Clinic, and Shoulder to Shoulder Global. There are definitely lots more community service opportunities! A lot of these are done through interest groups, for example, the pediatrics interest group is very involved in Dance Blue and often sponsors a family during Christmas. We also periodically get emails about service projects you can be involved in, either from classmates or from student affairs. I also know classmates who have done volunteer work that they were interested in and found on their own, which I think is fairly easy as the large undergrad student population means lots of opportunities.

At UK, I think if you aren't really interested in doing procedures, no one is going to push you to do that many (with the exception of your surgery rotation). If you are interested and proactive though, you can. I think my classmates in the rural tract probably had more opportunities than at UK's main campus. I did feel like, for the most part, that I was involved in my patients' treatment, but again, that is sort of what you make of it and how involved you choose to be.

does UK have a simulation center, I am pretty sure they mentioned it on the tour but we never had chance to see it

UK does have a simulation center. I don't know what UL's is like, but honestly I wouldn't get too hung up on this point. At UK, you will likely not use the simulator much (if at all) your first two years, unless the curriculum has changed substantially. We did use it in our third year to practice some techniques (central lines, catheters, intubation, lumbar puncture, NG tubes, phlebotomy, etc.) and in fourth year (mostly simulator scenarios to prepare you for intern year). The simulator they do have is pretty cool; he is hooked up to all the monitors, you can administer drugs and it reacts physiologically to the type of drug and dose, you can do a limited number of procedures on it. There's also a couple pediatric simulators. It's pretty neat, but you won't use it much and I would guess you wouldn't either at UL (though I can't say for sure).

We also have a Minimally Invasive Surgery lab, which is pretty cool, especially if you are interested in surgery. You basically can practice a lot of the laparoscopic surgery techniques, they are timed and have records if you're a competitive type. The director of the lab is a nice guy, and will let you use the lab often.
 
if UK had much more than the three things listed on their webpage, I think they would demonstrate this fact more obviously.
Sorry I'm responding to this several weeks later, but I agree UK does not do a good job advertising the community service opportunities (or the early clinical experience) in my opinion! We actually elect a couple of people in each class to be community service chairs who hunt down the service opportunities in the area and email the class to let us know about it. Some of the stuff we got emails about this year included:
-A couple Habitat for Humanity builds
-Wrap up America Competition (blankets for the homeless)
-DanceBlue
-Walk for Down Syndrome
-Orchard gleaning to feed the hungry
-SouperBowl of Caring
-FunRuns (exercising with overweight children)
-American Cancer Society Hope Lodge
-God's Pantry
-Surgery on Sunday
-A couple opportunities to teach school kids
And other things I didn't find with a cursory search of my email...So for those of you who I'll see here next year, don't worry - there are lots of service opportunities around Lexington if you're interested. And, if you want to be involved in leadership, you can run to be a community service chair.
 
I noticed there are apartments called Medical Villas and Medical View Properties that seem to be right next to the med school building. Are those good apartments?

Wondering the same thing. I'll be traveling to Lexington in a couple of weeks to look for apartments, and I'm trying to figure out which places to go check out.

I just started looking for apartments... I know I should've started earlier... Anyway, I was wondering if you guys checked out these apartments mentioned above? How are they?? Are there mainly grad/professional students living there?
 
I just started looking for apartments... I know I should've started earlier... Anyway, I was wondering if you guys checked out these apartments mentioned above? How are they?? Are there mainly grad/professional students living there?
I actually never made it to these apartments. Ended up signing a lease at University Village. Also lots of med/grad students there.
 
I just started looking for apartments... I know I should've started earlier... Anyway, I was wondering if you guys checked out these apartments mentioned above? How are they?? Are there mainly grad/professional students living there?
I recommend looking at Campus Court at Red Mile.
It's about 1.5 miles from campus, the single bedroom apartments feel surprisingly spacious considering the square footage, and there is a nice pool for the residents. Plus they have dishwashers and washer/dryer in unit.
I cannot tell whether other professional students live here, but despite the online reviews, I have had no noise issues (I'm usually sensitive to noisy neighbors so I feel like a good judge) and the people working in the office are extremely helpful and friendly.
They are a little on the pricey side for their size, but the location is pretty convenient to the medical school. Plus internet is included in the rent and is totally sufficient so your only bills are for water and electricity (cable TV with HBO is also included, but I'm a cord-cutter so that doesn't hold much value for me)
 
When you said last month I was thinking that you meant one month ago, not that you meant the very end of June, sorry😳. It would have been clearer if you had said you got in a few days ago.
 
When you said last month I was thinking that you meant one month ago, not that you meant the very end of June, sorry😳. It would have been clearer if you had said you got in a few days ago.
It was a little earlier in the month.
I know some adcoms watch SDN, so I don't want to easily reveal myself to them 😛
When I got in I told them I had given up hope, but that said that was way too early.
Based on what I've seen from other schools, there's still a solid chance to get in during the next two weeks.
Just keep letting UK know you want to go there.
I had a strong (at least numbers-wise) application with a pretty good story, but I had a late interview.
I called a few times and sent updates, so make sure they know you want to go there! I think it helped me.
Good luck
 
Wait so it was earlier in the month not two (now 3) days ago? I mean congrats again but I think you are just messing with me now...

Edit: People on the WL should still be hopeful though! I have met several people who got into schools within the last few days!
 
I hope all you guys coming here in a few weeks have signed up to be a little Sib in our big/little sibling program! I found it to be amazingly helpful last year. My big singlehandedly got me a few points extra on each exam with all her pointers and suggestions and I really appreciated having someone to talk to who had already gone through it successfully. There is no minimum or maximum level of participation expected, we're just here if you need us. There's still time to sign up if you haven't already done so. Looking forward to meeting you guys during orientation week!
 
Doyouhaveaflag, how does Echo (or whatever the lecture recording system is called) work? Is it OK to watch the lectures after lab or do we need to know what was discussed before it?
 
Doyouhaveaflag, how does Echo (or whatever the lecture recording system is called) work? Is it OK to watch the lectures after lab or do we need to know what was discussed before it?
Echo records the audio from the lectures and shows you the powerpoint slides that the instructor was on so you can follow along, although it will not include anything that is HIPAA protected. For example, if we have a patient come to class to talk about living with an illness, that will not be posted so you'll want to be in class for that. There is one instructor in biochem who really wants people in class so he is known for saying helpful hints without the mic to reward those who show up. I recommend asking your friends who attend class to let you know if this happens and to tell you what he says.

They usually post the recordings within a few hours of the lecture, and they post one hour of lecture per upload (so if you have lecture from 8am to noon you'll have four posts of one hour each to listen to.) This helps because sometimes they'll post the 8-9am lecture before class finishes at noon. Sometimes there are posting SNAFUs and lecture won't get online for a day, or in rare cases not at all. If that's the case, you can listen to the lectures from our year as long as they haven't changed the curriculum too much for that material.

That said, for anatomy I highly recommend pre-studying the night before. I didn't do this for the beginning of the course and I can definitely say I got a lot more from lab once I started looking at the dissector and pre-studying before lab. I don't absorb enough from just listening to lecture to memorize everything the lab that same day. You'll get a list of the structures to know at the back of the dissector and it's pretty helpful to look up the ones for the next lab in an atlas beforehand so you know what it is and where to find it. Depending on which instructor you have at your table, you may also get pimped on the structures you're expected to find that day. When this happens, it feels pretty good if you can answer their questions.
 
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Echo records the audio from the lectures and shows you the powerpoint slides that the instructor was on so you can follow along, although it will not include anything that is HIPAA protected. For example, if we have a patient come to class to talk about living with an illness, that will not be posted so you'll want to be in class for that. There is one instructor in biochem who really wants people in class so he is known for saying helpful hints without the mic to reward those who show up. I recommend asking your friends who attend class to let you know if this happens and to tell you what he says.

They usually post the recordings within a few hours of the lecture, and they post one hour of lecture per upload (so if you have lecture from 8am to noon you'll have four posts of one hour each to listen to.) This helps because sometimes they'll post the 8-9am lecture before class finishes at noon. Sometimes there are posting SNAFUs and lecture won't get online for a day, or in rare cases not at all. If that's the case, you can listen to the lectures from our year as long as they haven't changed the curriculum too much for that material.

That said, for anatomy I highly recommend pre-studying the night before. I didn't do this for the beginning of the course and I can definitely say I got a lot more from lab once I started looking at the dissector and pre-studying before lab. I don't absorb enough from just listening to lecture to memorize everything the lab that same day. You'll get a list of the structures to know at the back of the dissector and it's pretty helpful to look up the ones for the next lab in an atlas beforehand so you know what it is and where to find it. Depending on which instructor you have at your table, you may also get pimped on the structures you're expected to find that day. When this happens, it feels pretty good if you can answer their questions.
Great advice, thank you!
Do you have an atlas recommendation? I've heard of Netter's and one that uses pictures of an actual cadaver rather than diagrams (at least that the difference I was told).
 
Great advice, thank you!
Do you have an atlas recommendation? I've heard of Netter's and one that uses pictures of an actual cadaver rather than diagrams (at least that the difference I was told).
I preferred the Rohen atlas, which is the one with actual pictures. I would go through the structures we would dissect the following day and look them up in the index to see where they were/what they look like. For studying for exams, I covered up the labels of the structures in the photos and went through page by page identifying each and checking my answers. I also carried around the Netter's flashcards and went over them whenever I had some time, but the drawings I find to be less helpful. Using this method, I did really well on the practical exams.

A couple more pointers for anatomy - make sure you look at other people's cadavers, especially if they have a really beautiful example of a structure. I recommend finding each structure in at least 5 bodies. For the most part, the instructors really want you to do well and they do not try to trick you with someone's abnormal anatomy. They will pin structures that are clearly identifiable and if you didn't do a good enough job on dissection, they will probably improve on your work before the exam (a good way to tell if they're thinking of asking a question on your cadaver is if you can see that they dissected something out really well for you when you weren't in lab 🙂 ) For example, there was one cadaver in our lab that had a really beautiful and clearly identifiable thoracic duct. Word got out about which cadaver it was, and we all trekked over to look at it at the suggestion of our instructors. Lo and behold, that was pinned on the exam. Also, make sure you look at X-Rays, cross-sections, and bones enough to be comfortable with them. Identifying structures in these is something like 1/3 of the practical grade but it's not part of the in-class dissection. That part is independent study so make sure you put the work in outside of class time.
 
I preferred the Rohen atlas, which is the one with actual pictures. I would go through the structures we would dissect the following day and look them up in the index to see where they were/what they look like. For studying for exams, I covered up the labels of the structures in the photos and went through page by page identifying each and checking my answers. I also carried around the Netter's flashcards and went over them whenever I had some time, but the drawings I find to be less helpful. Using this method, I did really well on the practical exams.

A couple more pointers for anatomy - make sure you look at other people's cadavers, especially if they have a really beautiful example of a structure. I recommend finding each structure in at least 5 bodies. For the most part, the instructors really want you to do well and they do not try to trick you with someone's abnormal anatomy. They will pin structures that are clearly identifiable and if you didn't do a good enough job on dissection, they will probably improve on your work before the exam (a good way to tell if they're thinking of asking a question on your cadaver is if you can see that they dissected something out really well for you when you weren't in lab 🙂 ) For example, there was one cadaver in our lab that had a really beautiful and clearly identifiable thoracic duct. Word got out about which cadaver it was, and we all trekked over to look at it at the suggestion of our instructors. Lo and behold, that was pinned on the exam. Also, make sure you look at X-Rays, cross-sections, and bones enough to be comfortable with them. Identifying structures in these is something like 1/3 of the practical grade but it's not part of the in-class dissection. That part is independent study so make sure you put the work in outside of class time.
Hey, I'm also in group that's about to start M1. W whale a Facebook group, and I'm guessing that some of the other members would like to what you've shared in the above post and the one before it. Do you mind if I share some of it on the page for everyone to see?
 
Hey, I'm also in group that's about to start M1. W whale a Facebook group, and I'm guessing that some of the other members would like to what you've shared in the above post and the one before it. Do you mind if I share some of it on the page for everyone to see?
By all means, please share anything you think would be useful to others! Sharing info is key. Hopefully during orientation you'll get info about all kinds of resources for collaboration and sharing info with your classmates. We have a wiki page and a google drive that people share all kinds of helpful hints, self-made study guides, and electronic versions of the textbooks on.
 
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