2015-2016 University of Wisconsin Application Thread

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Does anyone know when is the first day of class/orientation/when we have to be on campus? I can't find it on the website. Best guess is Aug 15 given previous years, but I'm trying to figure out when to quit my job lol
 
Does anyone know when is the first day of class/orientation/when we have to be on campus? I can't find it on the website. Best guess is Aug 15 given previous years, but I'm trying to figure out when to quit my job lol
+1 was wondering this as well. Tried finding a schedule for the year listing dates we have off but no dice!
 
Does anyone know when is the first day of class/orientation/when we have to be on campus? I can't find it on the website. Best guess is Aug 15 given previous years, but I'm trying to figure out when to quit my job lol

+1 was wondering this as well. Tried finding a schedule for the year listing dates we have off but no dice!
I looked around on my student portal and couldn't find anything for next year. I'm guessing it's not finalized yet, but you should anticipate a mid-August start date. I would also recommend quitting your job a couple weeks early and just taking some time to relax before you start. You'll be glad you did! 😉
 
Does anyone know when is the first day of class/orientation/when we have to be on campus? I can't find it on the website. Best guess is Aug 15 given previous years, but I'm trying to figure out when to quit my job lol

+1 was wondering this as well. Tried finding a schedule for the year listing dates we have off but no dice!

I looked around on my student portal and couldn't find anything for next year. I'm guessing it's not finalized yet, but you should anticipate a mid-August start date. I would also recommend quitting your job a couple weeks early and just taking some time to relax before you start. You'll be glad you did! 😉

Thanks for checking, Glandzburg. Just saw the answer to my question so I thought I'd post it here since others were interested - Becky posted in the FB group that the first day will be Tuesday, Aug. 16.
 
Hi everyone! I am wondering if anyone here has experience with the waitlist. I was recently put on the list and am wondering what the chance of acceptance are. I know it can vary year to year but I would love to go here and I am looking for any insight I can get. Thanks!
 
Hi everyone! I am wondering if anyone here has experience with the waitlist. I was recently put on the list and am wondering what the chance of acceptance are. I know it can vary year to year but I would love to go here and I am looking for any insight I can get. Thanks!
I was also recently put on the in-state waitlist with pretty much identical stats as you (different ECs and what not of course). Was accepted to two out-of-state private schools but my in-state school didn't like me I guess (and yes, Im salty about this lol).
I was looking at previous years and it looks like waitlist-acceptances went up to about #18 on the waitlist, or so.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong!
 
Hi everyone! I am wondering if anyone here has experience with the waitlist. I was recently put on the list and am wondering what the chance of acceptance are. I know it can vary year to year but I would love to go here and I am looking for any insight I can get. Thanks!

I was also recently put on the in-state waitlist with pretty much identical stats as you (different ECs and what not of course). Was accepted to two out-of-state private schools but my in-state school didn't like me I guess (and yes, Im salty about this lol).
I was looking at previous years and it looks like waitlist-acceptances went up to about #18 on the waitlist, or so.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong!
The amount of waitlist movement is going to vary a bit from year-to-year. But historically, the in-state waitlist shows a fair amount of movement, while the OOS shows very little movement (if any at all). Good luck!
 
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Thanks for the information. I am instate as well so hopefully it works out!

I was also recently put on the in-state waitlist with pretty much identical stats as you (different ECs and what not of course). Was accepted to two out-of-state private schools but my in-state school didn't like me I guess (and yes, Im salty about this lol).
I was looking at previous years and it looks like waitlist-acceptances went up to about #18 on the waitlist, or so.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong!

The amount of waitlist movement is going to vary a bit from year-to-year. But historically, the in-state waitlist shows a fair amount of movement, while the OOS shows very little movement (if any at all). Good luck!
 
Hey everybody! Long time lurker, and finally made an account because I was hoping I could ask current students (or people in the know) about some details I'm a little confused on. So I'm extremely fortunate to have a couple of acceptances and I loved my day at UWSMPH, but I'm a little nervous about the new curriculum. Don't get me wrong, I thought it seemed pretty great from the interview day presentation and definitely seems to be the trend around the nation, but I just feel like I've heard enough horror stories from friends about being the "lab rat" class that's the first to go through big changes before things get tweaked and reworked that I'm worried. And more specifically, they kind of danced around this on the interview day, but is it now going to be the whole pre-clinical curriculum is graded? From what I could understand, it seems as though in the 1.5 years of pre-clinical coursework we'd "receive" a pass or fail grade (they say report on the website), but the entire time we would be being internally ranked directly against our classmates for the purposes of class rank, AOA cutoffs, etc. for applying to residencies down the line. So basically being graded against our fellow classmates right from the start, unlike the current system which seems to be a true unranked pass/fail first year and then grades after that. I hope I'm wrong? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, especially from current students who might know (@kittykattat @Jennyfishy @Glandzburg or others)!
 
Hey everybody! Long time lurker, and finally made an account because I was hoping I could ask current students (or people in the know) about some details I'm a little confused on. So I'm extremely fortunate to have a couple of acceptances and I loved my day at UWSMPH, but I'm a little nervous about the new curriculum. Don't get me wrong, I thought it seemed pretty great from the interview day presentation and definitely seems to be the trend around the nation, but I just feel like I've heard enough horror stories from friends about being the "lab rat" class that's the first to go through big changes before things get tweaked and reworked that I'm worried. And more specifically, they kind of danced around this on the interview day, but is it now going to be the whole pre-clinical curriculum is graded? From what I could understand, it seems as though in the 1.5 years of pre-clinical coursework we'd "receive" a pass or fail grade (they say report on the website), but the entire time we would be being internally ranked directly against our classmates for the purposes of class rank, AOA cutoffs, etc. for applying to residencies down the line. So basically being graded against our fellow classmates right from the start, unlike the current system which seems to be a true unranked pass/fail first year and then grades after that. I hope I'm wrong? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, especially from current students who might know (@kittykattat @Jennyfishy @Glandzburg or others)!
You are correct in that you will be internally ranked during your 1.5 years of pre-clinicals. The unfortunate fact of the matter is that somewhere along the line, all schools need to somehow rank you against your classmates. Residency directors want to know how you compare, and it is also important for determining things like the cutoff for AOA eligibility. My understanding is that most of the schools with true pass/fail pre-clinical years will instead rank you based on your clinical years. Again, schools need to rank their students somehow before graduation for the reasons I mentioned. So regardless of where you go, you will be ranked at some point!

I can certainly understand the apprehensiveness towards being the first class to experience a new curriculum. While I do not know enough to comment on the specific details of the new curriculum, I can promise you that you will be in excellent hands. The change has been in the works for years now, and they have worked incredibly hard to implement the new curriculum in the most effective way possible. They wouldn't be making this change if they weren't certain it would provide an even better education than the current curriculum. Not to mention the wonderful academic services team; we have two learning specialists whose full-time job is to help students be successful in medical school. Rest assured that you will receive a world-class medical education at UWSMPH!
 
Hey everybody! Long time lurker, and finally made an account because I was hoping I could ask current students (or people in the know) about some details I'm a little confused on. So I'm extremely fortunate to have a couple of acceptances and I loved my day at UWSMPH, but I'm a little nervous about the new curriculum. Don't get me wrong, I thought it seemed pretty great from the interview day presentation and definitely seems to be the trend around the nation, but I just feel like I've heard enough horror stories from friends about being the "lab rat" class that's the first to go through big changes before things get tweaked and reworked that I'm worried. And more specifically, they kind of danced around this on the interview day, but is it now going to be the whole pre-clinical curriculum is graded? From what I could understand, it seems as though in the 1.5 years of pre-clinical coursework we'd "receive" a pass or fail grade (they say report on the website), but the entire time we would be being internally ranked directly against our classmates for the purposes of class rank, AOA cutoffs, etc. for applying to residencies down the line. So basically being graded against our fellow classmates right from the start, unlike the current system which seems to be a true unranked pass/fail first year and then grades after that. I hope I'm wrong? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, especially from current students who might know (@kittykattat @Jennyfishy @Glandzburg or others)!

I want to second everything @Glandzburg said, he was right on the money. I also want to reiterate that VERY few schools in the US are "true" pass fail (no internal ranking) for one or more years. Of course most schools arent going to tell you this on interview day (case and point: UWSMPH sharing this info with you made you addmitedly apprehensive) and i can think of probably 4-5 interviews I went on where at least one of the 4 years was pass/fail but they never mentioned internal ranking, however they also never said there WASNT ranking during this time, and sure enough a quick google/sdn search revealed these curriculums were not "TRUE" pass/fail.

Now of course I dont know what other schools youve been accepted to, and if they explicitly stated on interview day that there was no internal ranking during the pass/fail year(s) (pritzker and colombia off the top of my head) then im sure that is the truth, but even these schools then rank you based of the graded years (usually yrs 3 & 4) because the residency programs ask schools to include a measure of where you stand amongst your classmates in your Dean's Letter, for which most schools sort their students into quartiles or quintiles.

TLDR: all schools must rank you based on SOMETHING for your residency application. For most schools this is all 4 years... Some of which may be graded, some of which may be P/F on your transcript, and for a few (mostly top 20 schools) your performance will only be ranked against that of your classmates for one or two years.

And for what its worth, I think the new curriculum sounds awesome, and I would much rather have been on the first year of that then the old 2 full years of pre-clinical situation! I think all students at every school find reasons to complain about the their curriculum, but the ones in the first year of a new curriculum can blame every single thingn on their being a "guinea pig", not realizing that things still wont be perfect in the 20th yearof a curriculum, and there will always be things to complain about.
 
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Unrelated, but do you all have a Facebook group running already? Can some perhaps PM me the link to it? 😀
 
Thanks for checking, Glandzburg. Just saw the answer to my question so I thought I'd post it here since others were interested - Becky posted in the FB group that the first day will be Tuesday, Aug. 16.
Just to give you a heads-up (and anyone else reading who may not know), almost all rental properties in Madison begin the "renting year" on August 15, so most students will be moving in on Monday the 15th and starting school on Tuesday the 16th.
 
Just to give you a heads-up (and anyone else reading who may not know), almost all rental properties in Madison begin the "renting year" on August 15, so most students will be moving in on Monday the 15th and starting school on Tuesday the 16th.
This applies to the undergraduate housing areas, but is not so true as you move further out. My apartment complex (1 mile from the medical school) has leases that start at all different times in the summer. My lease started at the end of July, which is perfect.

I really can't emphasize enough how bad of an idea it would be to move in the day before you start. It shouldn't be too tough to find one that starts August 1st, unless you are dead set on living in the undergrad areas.
 
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Does anyone know if UW is receptive to letters of intent?
 
Don't hold me accountable, but I am pretty sure on interview day they said that they do not take any updates whatsoever. If I remember correctly, the administrative folks really stressed the fact that interview day is our last chance to provide any updates. Correct me if I am wrong though!
 
I agree with @rogernadal. I also got the impression that interview day was the big day to provide updates. However, I have found the administrative staff to be very understanding and accommodating and a letter of intent is not quite your typical update letter where you provide new information. @mr.mkitty, I would just email them and ask if you are able to send a letter of intent and see if they accept it or not. Worst thing they can do is say no and you might have a chance to show them Madison is your #1 choice!
 
This applies to the undergraduate housing areas, but is not so true as you move further out. My apartment complex (1 mile from the medical school) has leases that start at all different times in the summer. My lease started at the end of July, which is perfect.

I really can't emphasize enough how bad of an idea it would be to move in the day before you start. It shouldn't be too tough to find one that starts August 1st, unless you are dead set on living in the undergrad areas.

Just to clarify, Glandzburg is right for the most part, but there is one BIG property management company called GoldLeaf Development who owns a lot of the large apt buildings on Old University Ave, very close to the medical school, in what would NOT be considered an "undergrad area", but does seem to operate on the same schedule as that part of campus, so most of their leases end around Aug 14 and begin around Aug 15 each year. Every year there are definitely a good number of M1s who cant move in until the 15th (im talking like 40-50 my first year). Unfortunately this is cutting it kind of close for you guys (our school yr didnt start until the 18th) but it is doable and you will not be alone! There is actually a Best Western right next to all the GoldLeaf buildings that you could stay the night before move-in day and im sure it wouldnt even be too hard to find a kind-hearted M2 or classmate who is already moved in if you needed a place to store some boxes for a few days.

I dont want to directly contradict Glandzburg, but the first few days of school are very low key (i.e. no lectures or readings, just orientation stuff), so while you do have many Required activities for which you have to be present, there will be no studying to do yet, so the afternoons and evenings those first couple days will be yours to work on moving. Dont let the August 15th move-in day scare you away from getting an apartment close to the school or an apartment in your price range (its mostly the newer/more expensive buildings and ones further away from the hospital that have different lease start dates throughout the summer). If I had to guess, the reason your first orientation date is slated for a Tuesday is BECAUSE that Monday is the big move day. The last few years UWSMPH has always started orientation on a Monday.
 
Just to clarify, Glandzburg is right for the most part, but there is one BIG property management company called GoldLeaf Development who owns a lot of the large apt buildings on Old University Ave, very close to the medical school, in what would NOT be considered an "undergrad area", but does seem to operate on the same schedule as that part of campus, so most of their leases end around Aug 14 and begin around Aug 15 each year. Every year there are definitely a good number of M1s who cant move in until the 15th (im talking like 40-50 my first year). Unfortunately this is cutting it kind of close for you guys (our school yr didnt start until the 18th) but it is doable and you will not be alone! There is actually a Best Western right next to all the GoldLeaf buildings that you could stay the night before move-in day and im sure it wouldnt even be too hard to find a kind-hearted M2 or classmate who is already moved in if you needed a place to store some boxes for a few days.

I dont want to directly contradict Glandzburg, but the first few days of school are very low key (i.e. no lectures or readings, just orientation stuff), so while you do have many Required activities for which you have to be present, there will be no studying to do yet, so the afternoons and evenings those first couple days will be yours to work on moving. Dont let the August 15th move-in day scare you away from getting an apartment close to the school or an apartment in your price range (its mostly the newer/more expensive buildings and ones further away from the hospital that have different lease start dates throughout the summer). If I had to guess, the reason your first orientation date is slated for a Tuesday is BECAUSE that Monday is the big move day. The last few years UWSMPH has always started orientation on a Monday.
Thanks @kittykattat , I did not know all of GoldLeaf's leases start mid-August. I was probably exaggerating a bit on the negatives of moving in mid-August, as I know some of my classmates did the same and were totally fine. And as you mentioned, the first week or so is pretty low-key, and I think we only had like 3 lectures total. I personally wouldn't want to do it, but those of you moving in August 15 will survive!

As to the people that were curious about dates for next year, they have a released a few important ones. Forgive me if this is on your Facebook page already, but here they are:
-August 16 (Tuesday) = Start
-August 19 (Friday) = White Coat ceremony
-November 24-27 = Thanksgiving recess
-December 15 = Last day of fall semester

-January 3 = Spring semester begins
-March 18-26 = Spring break
-May 12 = Last day of spring semester

-You will also have off the Mondays of Labor day (fall) and MLK, Jr. Day (spring)​
 
Thanks @kittykattat , I did not know all of GoldLeaf's leases start mid-August. I was probably exaggerating a bit on the negatives of moving in mid-August, as I know some of my classmates did the same and were totally fine. And as you mentioned, the first week or so is pretty low-key, and I think we only had like 3 lectures total. I personally wouldn't want to do it, but those of you moving in August 15 will survive!

As to the people that were curious about dates for next year, they have a released a few important ones. Forgive me if this is on your Facebook page already, but here they are:
-August 16 (Tuesday) = Start
-August 19 (Friday) = White Coat ceremony
-November 24-27 = Thanksgiving recess
-December 15 = Last day of fall semester

-January 3 = Spring semester begins
-March 18-26 = Spring break
-May 12 = Last day of spring semester

-You will also have off the Mondays of Labor day (fall) and MLK, Jr. Day (spring)​

This isn't on our FB page! Thanks for posting!
 
I'm not liking the silence on this page as of recent. Anyone interviewed on 1/15 or later hear back?
 
For those that are attending second look day, did anyone get an email confirmation that they had successfully RSVP'd? Just curious, because the survey page where we RSVP'd left me wondering if it was actually recorded
 
For those that are attending second look day, did anyone get an email confirmation that they had successfully RSVP'd? Just curious, because the survey page where we RSVP'd left me wondering if it was actually recorded
I did not get an e-mail confirmation.
 
Anyone hear anything from the 1/15 interview group? The 4-6 week mark is upon us.
 
Just realized I was terribly rude and forgot to thank @Glandzburg and @kittykattat for your thoughtful and detailed responses! Thank you! It makes sense now, though I still am pretty bummed that there's essentially curved grades against classmates right from the start now. But I totally get that there are reasons for and against that. Personally I just kinda feel like Step1 is already a mark of your comparative performance to other med students in learning all the preclinical knowledge you're supposed to in the first 1.5-2 years of med school, so having curved preclinical grades as part of your class rank (especially right from the start) in addition to the comparative value of Step1 almost feels to me like you're getting double-graded on your pre-clinical knowledge. I think I'd rather just be judged comparatively to my classmates based on clinical years. But you could make the same argument for/against clinical performance and Step2 (though it seems as though Step1 is much more important generally), and i also get that a downside of just grading the clinical years is more subjectivity in general. Just my personal preference now, and maybe that'll change in time. And I'm just nervous to be competitively graded against super smart classmates right off the bat :/

I also am glad to hear you guys are very confident in the new curriculum! I'm very lucky and have a couple of schools i've been really struggling between, so I contacted my student interviewers too and they seemed...well, a little less confident haha. They were both M2s and agreed that it is a good move and definitely will be better than the current curriculum in the long haul, but they both indicated (one more and one less) that it seemed like behind-the-scenes is still a little bit of a mess right now. Which makes me a little nervous. But like you guys said, I'm sure they're working hard to figure it all out, and the presentation on interview day was great. This is a tough choice!!!
 
Just realized I was terribly rude and forgot to thank @Glandzburg and @kittykattat for your thoughtful and detailed responses! Thank you! It makes sense now, though I still am pretty bummed that there's essentially curved grades against classmates right from the start now. But I totally get that there are reasons for and against that. Personally I just kinda feel like Step1 is already a mark of your comparative performance to other med students in learning all the preclinical knowledge you're supposed to in the first 1.5-2 years of med school, so having curved preclinical grades as part of your class rank (especially right from the start) in addition to the comparative value of Step1 almost feels to me like you're getting double-graded on your pre-clinical knowledge. I think I'd rather just be judged comparatively to my classmates based on clinical years. But you could make the same argument for/against clinical performance and Step2 (though it seems as though Step1 is much more important generally), and i also get that a downside of just grading the clinical years is more subjectivity in general. Just my personal preference now, and maybe that'll change in time. And I'm just nervous to be competitively graded against super smart classmates right off the bat :/

I also am glad to hear you guys are very confident in the new curriculum! I'm very lucky and have a couple of schools i've been really struggling between, so I contacted my student interviewers too and they seemed...well, a little less confident haha. They were both M2s and agreed that it is a good move and definitely will be better than the current curriculum in the long haul, but they both indicated (one more and one less) that it seemed like behind-the-scenes is still a little bit of a mess right now. Which makes me a little nervous. But like you guys said, I'm sure they're working hard to figure it all out, and the presentation on interview day was great. This is a tough choice!!!
No problem, happy to help. Congrats on your multiple acceptances! There are many factors to consider, and ultimately you have to weigh all of the information at your disposal and go where you think you will be happiest. Let me know if I can be of any more help during your decision-making process.

Caveat: I was born and raised in WI, and with UW being the reputable program that it is, it was an easy choice for me 😉
 
Wait list letter in the mail yesterday. Merp. 🙁 Interviewed late Jan.
Good luck, y'all!
 
Sorry to hear that, happened to a few others of us so keep your head up.
Stats?
No worries.
LM 67, IS. For what it's worth, my interviewer said (verbatim) "I think you'd make an excellent addition to the incoming class" at the end of my interview, so not sure what exactly happened between the interview and decision.
 
Does anyone know if more financial aid offers will be awarded for the rest of the cycle? If yes, when should we expect to hear about them?
 
Does anyone know if more financial aid offers will be awarded for the rest of the cycle? If yes, when should we expect to hear about them?

The schools mentions this information on the brochure titled "Prospective Medical Students: Office of Student Financial Aid" (part of the packet you received on interview day). FAFSA is the only thing you must complete to be considered for aid. Below is the relevant information regarding aid type and timing.

Your Financial Aid Award Offer
Award notifications are usually emailed to admitted students starting in April. Students will be instructed to log into My UW to accept/decline their aid. The Office of Student Financial Aid administers student loans only. Please refer to the next section regarding Scholarships, which are administered through the MD Admissions Office.

Scholarships

University of Wisconsin School of Medicine and Public Health Scholarships are awarded by the Scholarship Committee. All applicants are considered and there is no application to complete. The Committee awards recruitment and need-based scholarships. Notifications are made on a continual basis from late fall through May. Typical awards range from $5,000/ year to full tuition.


Could anybody in the know state whether or not accepted OOS students hear back later than IS students regarding aid since they are statistically less likely to end up going to the school (IS 107/142=75% vs OOS 33/88=38%). Another other information regarding scholarship/aid is also appreciated. Thank you in advance!
 
Does anyone know if more financial aid offers will be awarded for the rest of the cycle? If yes, when should we expect to hear about them?
As students make decisions and withdraw their acceptances + if they were holding scholarship offers, that money is freed up and re-distributed/offered to other students who were being considered for award. I imagine that's the same for most other schools, meaning more offers can probably come out after whatever the date you all have to decide on a single acceptance by 🙂
 
As students make decisions and withdraw their acceptances + if they were holding scholarship offers, that money is freed up and re-distributed/offered to other students who were being considered for award. I imagine that's the same for most other schools, meaning more offers can probably come out after whatever the date you all have to decide on a single acceptance by 🙂

Thank you, Jennyfishy. I was just trying to figure out if any scholarship offer will be awarded within the next few weeks (before others decide to withdraw their acceptances), especially for those who were accepted rather late in the cycle (feb/march). But it's also possible that all offers have been granted at the moment?
 
Thank you, Jennyfishy. I was just trying to figure out if any scholarship offer will be awarded within the next few weeks (before others decide to withdraw their acceptances), especially for those who were accepted rather late in the cycle (feb/march). But it's also possible that all offers have been granted at the moment?
I don't sit on the scholarship committee so can't give you a definitive answer, but it's possible since we are still making decisions on the final stretch of OOS applicants for this cycle. You would receive a letter in the mail (probably soon) if you were offered something pre-withdrawal kids. Sorry that doesn't really answer your question, good luck!

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I don't sit on the scholarship committee so can't give you a definitive answer, but it's possible since we are still making decisions on the final stretch of OOS applicants for this cycle. You would receive a letter in the mail (probably soon) if you were offered something pre-withdrawal kids. Sorry that doesn't really answer your question, good luck!

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Thank you for the info @Jennyfishy .

Could any current students share their experience with second look. What kind of information did the school share to either solidify your decision or change your opinion of the school? Was the shared information largely a reminder of topics covered during interview day or insightful new information? How was the day split in terms of presentations versus socializing/exploring time?

One of my undergrad classmates was recently accepted here and invited by the Office of Multicultural Affairs to attend a longer version of second look. Since she refuses to use SDN, I wanted to ask on her behalf: "what additional insights are provided during this additional time?"
 
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