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I'm shocked as well. I'm so hurt.rejected, surprised, but it is what it is.
*this is a numbers game a lot of the time, and a roll of the dice.*
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So true - last year my post II rejection apparently didn't have to do with my interview at all. Still confused by that.So true. Its so subjective and upto chance at the interview stage
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I'm shocked as well. I'm so hurt.
True, just a pattern I have seen from the past few years on here for October people.I know it's not what you want to hear right now- but a lot of it is based on the reports that they type up directly after your interview (literally during, then directly after, they type up a report - each individually, then submit, then as a group write up a report...done this way so there is both independent thoughts not influenced by others as well as a collaborative report)...at least that is my understanding.
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Interviewed early Dec. No SUC.Has anyone who interviewed in Dec or Jan heard back that's not SUC? it seems that most people who are hearing back are from the earlier folks who interviewed. They must be behind?
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If it makes you feel any better, they waitlisted me my first year, rejected me my second, and now continue to keep me SUC for the last three months for my third and final try.I'm shocked as well. I'm so hurt.
Thanks for the comfort. I'm sorry that is the case, hope you get some great news this year!If it makes you feel any better, they waitlisted me my first year, rejected me my second, and now continue to keep me SUC for the last three months for my third and final try.
I honestly think that interviewing so early in the year was absolutely not in my favor. I feel that I probably didn't get brought up until this meeting, how can they remember someone who interviewed in october as well as someone who interviewed last week. I just don't get it.
Has anyone who interviewed in Dec or Jan heard back that's not SUC? it seems that most people who are hearing back are from the earlier folks who interviewed. They must be behind?
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Mind elaborating on this part?but considering my stats and experiences
Mind elaborating on this part?
I GOT YOUR BACK
Did you interview on Nov 1st by any chance?If it makes you feel any better, they waitlisted me my first year, rejected me my second, and now continue to keep me SUC for the last three months for my third and final try.
High-3.9 GPA, 519 MCAT, researching 2 years with 1 publication (though I didn't know it was accepted when I interviewed), 2.5 years medical volunteering 8 h/week, 1 year non-medical volunteering abroad, 150+ hours physician shadowing, etc...
Above what I've seen in many accepted applicants, and by the stats, at least, above their average posted online.
Nope nov 2. Why do you ask?!Did you interview on Nov 1st by any chance?
You sounded familiar... I felt like I'd met you during my interview. But I interviewed on the 1st, and I doubt your name's Dan?Nope nov 2. Why do you ask?!
Nope, not Dan! Haha. There's someone else that had the same exact thing happen to them as well?!You sounded familiar... I felt like I'd met you during my interview. But I interviewed on the 1st, and I doubt your name's Dan?
Yup! We talked quite a bit about interview-day-nervousness since he'd had much more experience than me. For what it's worth... I hope both of you finally make it.Nope, not Dan! Haha. There's someone else that had the same exact thing happen to them as well?!
Well, with stats and experience like that I doubt you will have a hard time getting in at other places. On paper you sound like the ideal medical student that any school would want.
Makes me wonder what they are actually looking for. I have a 4.0 in my post-bach, but my original degree didn't have grades. I got a 507 MCAT. I have a semester of research 10 years ago, but nothing since. My main extracurricular is working in social services for 10 years. I have been banking on that last part as the piece that set me apart, but seeing all the volunteer work you did makes me wonder. On my interview day a lot of the other applicants really emphasized that they played an instrument or majored in music, and I also noticed that the first years we spoke to also shared this trait. So, maybe this is their main criteria.. 🙂
UW states they are huge on diversity, but stats show they admit 70-80% white students accross campuses each year. Makes sense since they are probably trying to admit folks from the rural areas they hope to populate with more physicians. Just think the diversity thing is over hyped, but as they say they are looking for 'diversity of experiences' so there's that tooWell, I play a couple, and it came up in interviews, so it can't be that. In all seriousness, though, I think it's just about fit. UW is huge on primary/family care and on diversity, so I'm guessing the white male from an upper-middle class background that wants to specialize in ophtho or neuro (they asked in the interview) just didn't feel to them like a fit. But who knows?
And don't downplay the 10 years in social work. Shows a huge commitment to others.
UW states they are huge on diversity, but stats show they admit 70-80% white students accross campuses each year. Makes sense since they are probably trying to admit folks from the rural areas they hope to populate with more physicians. Just think the diversity thing is over hyped, but as they say they are looking for 'diversity of experiences' so there's that too
But with stats/experience like yours I bet you'll end up with many other schools to choose from! I agree with the person who said focusing on one school alone is unreasonable, that type of obsession can cost years and have little return....There are plenty of great schools out there!
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Perhaps the interviewers could sense this, and that was a factor? There's so much randomness in this process, though, that it's hard to pin down any one thing. I have stats close to yours, am a very diverse applicant (not a racial URM but underrepresented on 3 or 4 other axes), and yes, UW certainly seems to have responded to that. At the same time, I didn't get a single interview anywhere else. Stochasticity, I guess.I wasn't at all focused on UW
Perhaps the interviewers could sense this, and that was a factor? There's so much randomness in this process, though, that it's hard to pin down any one thing. I have stats close to yours, am a very diverse applicant (not a racial URM but underrepresented on 3 or 4 other axes), and yes, UW certainly seems to have responded to that. At the same time, I didn't get a single interview anywhere else. Stochasticity, I guess.
Umm..and do appear to have a particular zeal for anything diverse.
Umm..
That's not what I was trying to say. Without getting into too much detail, I'd advise you to look at the UW entry on MSAR.I mean, yeah, so does any school, but I wonder if the interesting experiences I've had, and have been able to control, match up in their minds to the diverse backgrounds some people come from (and can't control). Sorry if my wording doesn't make sense. Been up for way too many hours today...
That's not what I was trying to say. Without getting into too much detail, I'd advise you to look at the UW entry on MSAR.
But they do appear quite capricious in their choices, and do appear to have a particular zeal for anything diverse. I think you hit the nail on the head. I'm not too worries about it - it wasn't huge best fit for me... I just also don't know if I'm going to to be accepted to those programs that ARE the best fits.
Today on "I'm not sure that word means what you think it means"....I'm not sure how you put capricious in the same sentence as "having a particular zeal" - those are kinda antonyms.
All kidding aside, I have to strongly disagree. They are well known for not being all about stats, and as is clearly evident in the stats of accepted students matrix, being at the very top doesn't particularly help your chances. They are more about other aspects of the application, and if you fit well in the culture, and have displayed the characteristics they find appealing/necessary to fulfill their mission.
Also diversity isn't in the slightest limited to race or ethnic backgrounds. Life history, age, social background, etc are all sources of diversity that schools look for.
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You should be mindful of who you choose to share this opinion with.I have no problem with diversity, but it should be the things you've chosen to do that make you diverse, if it's going to be a criterion for application decisons.
People in an uproar about racial minorities having advantages when they statically don't. Just look at any med school entering class at any non HBCU. Thats the idea behind encouraging increasing enrollment of underrepresented minorities, they aren't being represented.You should be mindful of who you choose to share this opinion with.
You should be mindful of who you choose to share this opinion with.
People in an uproar about racial minorities having advantages when they statically don't. Just look at any med school entering class at any non HBCU. Thats the idea behind encouraging increasing enrollment of underrepresented minorities, they aren't being represented.
I really do believe that UW is focused on diversity of experience though and not ethnic minorities, again based on their consistent statistics favoring white students. UCLA was another top choice for me, stated emphasis on diversity, with a 40% white enrollment rate. Stats show where admissions truly place emphasis, otherwise it's just a guessing game
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Oh I wasn't bothered at all. It was legitimate advice just because I could see many many people getting rather worked up over it. Sorry if it came off that wayI respect and completely understand the opposing view, and in reference to things one could not change which represent real challenges overcome, I will note that I overspoke. Regardless, I do not intend to offend, and would hope that respectful discourse could take place instead of an implicit need to be quiet/careful who I talk to.
Of course, I don't barge into interviews spouting this, if, alternately, that was what you were implying.