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2017-2018 Seton Hall - Hackensack Meridian

Discussion in '2017-2018 Allopathic School Specific Discussions' started by gyngyn, Mar 21, 2018.

  1. mrlosangeles

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    Don't think they screen for MCAT. Submitted first day, still waiting...
     
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    Idk anymore. Maybe they already have chosen people for interviews from the first few days of applications, but as they go along with the review of the next batch of applications, interview priority changes based on whatever standards they have in mind. And each day they just call up the next however many people are in the interview queue.

    Okay, my imagination is running wild now so I'll just stop.
     
  4. 7331poas

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    What do we think the post-II accept rate will be here?

    For 55 seats they will need to accept....maybe 110+?

    There are 16 interview days total. So they will need to admit nearly 7ish per day.
     
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  5. ItsAMeMario007

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    Yeah I'm sure it's more than that but it could be a baseline screening tactic. However, for Seton Hall specifically, I actually have done research at the Hackensack UMC hospital and also shadowed a doctor affiliated with Hackensack Meridian who wrote me a LOR used as part of my committee letter. I would think that may have played a role in my case. I'm sure they look for stuff like fit and values, which are very subjectively demonstrated by our EC list which may or may not resonate with who the application reviewer is.

    Who am I kidding? It's quite unpredictable with too many variables.
     
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    Trueee...it probably depends on how much the application reviewer likes you. LOL!
     
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    What was your mcat? It couldn’t have been that bad
     
  8. ItsAMeMario007

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    506 MCAT (balanced luckily) but I'm also ORM. Not a good combination haha.
     
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    I’m an ORM applying with a 507 next cycle. Nothing below a 125 so I’m a bit worried . I prewrote 42 secondaries already because I can’t afford to not get in. Any luck this cycle ?
     
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    Hello Guys!!! This is one of the only two schools I applied to. I sent in my application only on the 3rd of April and haven't heard back either!! I honestly feel horrible for all of you who had to go through this nightmare of waiting all year for an acceptance :( ... Good luck to all of you!! Hackensack meridian seriously seems like a great school!!! :)
     
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  11. ItsAMeMario007

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    Yes that's the program. I did it over the 2017 summer! I was thinking of continuing after graduation in December, but I got a good paying full time job and decided to just focus on that and other stuff.
    Not to derail the Seton Hall thread, but I received 5 interviews of the 22 schools I applied to. But keep in mind 3 of them are new schools. I'm on waitlist at all the 3 interviews I've attended unfortunately. I'm taking the MCAT this upcoming weekend, in case the waitlists don't pan out, which I'm doing significantly better on after realizing how important of an exam this is and preparing for more than 2 weeks during finals week (bad bad idea). Just hoping the Seton Hall or the other interview I've got coming up work out and I don't need to go through this process again haha.
     
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    I am looking forward to hearing the acceptances here - looks like a potentially great program - this will be like winning the lottery!
     
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    Which Doctor were you able to Shadow, was it Dr. O or someone else?
     
  14. ItsAMeMario007

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    No, it wasn't any doctor who works at Hackensack UMC. It's another doctor who is affiliated with HM but has his own private practice in Hackensack. He's actually a specialist and is my doctor for some treatments I received within the last few years.
     
  15. ItsAMeMario007

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    I've had several experiences in other research programs along with a couple clinical and non clinical volunteering opportunities/clubs and other shadowing as well as some more technical related experiences. They're mainly straight forward compared to other applicants I think. Not sure if they're very unique, as I don't know many premeds!

    Edit: I didn't apply to DO schools this cycle, but if I end up re applying I'll be sure to include those.
     
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  17. ItsAMeMario007

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    Hi, could you PM me as I don't want to go too off topic.
     
  18. 7331poas

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    Can anyone who interviewed already estimate how many applicants were present on their interview day
     
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    SHU student here. Our pre-med committee highly advised anyone who already has an acceptance to not go. It's quite a mess over there. Promise I'm not trying to wrongfully deter anyone from going, I'm just relaying info that we get.
     
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    Did they offer any reasons?
     
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    We've been hearing news from faculty that the school is really struggling getting their curriculum and admissions together. It kind of makes sense. I can't imagine making the first three year program being very easy along with setting up a class in essentially a couple months. For me, it's concerning to hear that repeated among faculty. I'd be concerned being the first class, but if this is the only school you get accepted to you probably should take it regardless.
     
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    being part of an inaugural class means you understand there will be bumps and hurdles to overcome along the way but that you will succeed if your open to change and like to thrive in uncertain environments, thus seeing opportunity where others see risk....with how established both the school and health network are, it would be surprising if the school didn't rapidly gain a solid reputation similar to how Hofstra has climbed the ladder in the public's eye in such a short time frame.
     
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    I completely agree. But we're talking about the struggles that the first couple classes may face. I just think SHU's unique (if not overly ambitious) curriculum , late app opening and power struggle between Hackensack & SHU may cause other problems to arise. Take what I say with a grain of salt, I just thought it wasn't right to not keep everyone in the loop in regards to what we've been hearing.
     
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    Was there any factual data or was alot of it subjective?
     
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    I don't quite understand what kind of data you want. Of course it's subjective, but if my own school is saying these things then I guess it's the most accurate subjective statements we have. One of the professors did say that many of the people they've interviewed already have already gotten acceptances elsewhere
     
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    And your professors have intimate knowledge of the medical school? Not being combative I'm just curious.
     
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    I, as a SHU undergrad, agree. The school's dynamic has changed. Unfortunately, money has gotten in the way. The mission is becoming less and less important to the school. Hackensack has more of an influence than Seton Hall. It's the not the school same we thought we were getting. I heard it has become for-profit as well.
     
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    Not to be rude but being an shu undergrad means basically nothing. Do you have any insights on why the school is "not the same" as what you thought? Where did you hear it was for profit?
     
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    Okay, my friend. Good for you. What are you expecting...answers from the school's admissions committee? We go the undergraduate campus where most of the board meetings happen and where the staff is well-connected. We are simply offering what we know.
     
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    Huh, that’s interesting to hear. I’d like to know how it’s becoming less mission-based. After hearing from the dean and many others on interview day, they made it quite clear that their mission to better serve members of NJ and others regardless of race or socioeconomic background was their mission and will continue to influence every single decision made at the university. I don’t even remember how many times I heard that on interview day. While Hackensack may have more influence, I do not see the dean veering from her vision any time soon. She was a remarkable lady that doesn’t seem to have a for-profit interest.
     
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    Right. Like is said I'm not trying to be purposely combative. I am an applicant here like anyone else. I want to know if things are wrong.

    What I am trying to distinguish is the rumors among undergrads from concrete, real issues in the school.
     
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    SHU has really strong Catholic mission based roots. Freshman are required to volunteer if thats any indication. The mission for this school was supposed to be 1.) more docs in NJ. 2.) a strong mission based pool of students.

    Let's put it bluntly. SHU isn't the most prestigious school. Hackensack needed a school though. The original name of the school was Seton Hall- Hackensack Meridian School of medicine. It changed to Hackensack Meridian School of Medicine at SHU after more money was being poured by Hackensack. There is less influence from SHU. Hackensack seems to want to go more stats based because of their already solid foundation (which makes sense considering the high stat/OOS students getting interviews from this thread). Dr. Stanton is a wonderful lady and shes a strong believer of the vision of the school, I doubt she will stop fighting for that.

    We're a really small school and faculty here are involved in the medical school as well. We have lecturers who already teach at Hackensack due to our nursing, PA and PT program that also contribute a lot of insight to the school. You can take or leave what I said. I dont care. But I just wanted to shed some light on what I've observed and know.

    I genuinely hope a lot of what I say is wrong because I want SHU's mission to be part of the medical school. I'm just offering a different insight on the unique aspects of this program/history
     
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    I see. Personally I am an OOS interviewee so none of those things concern me.

    But I can see how that would disappoint shu/nj residents .
     
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    As an IS/SHU student/Catholic/Jesus lover I'm personally triggered by your apathy by the possible dissolution of SHU's sacred mission.
     
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    Wow! I never realized they changed their name to Hackensack Meridian School of Medicine. Do you know when this change occurred?
    Damn, now it makes sense why so many high stat/OOS students are getting interviews. But yeah, I hope what you said is wrong too. Thank you very much for your insights!
     
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    Am I appropriating your medical school?
     
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    Maybe this is why the 30k discount was taken off the site ? If it's becoming a for-profit school, I doubt they'd give out free money. Overall it does sound like a mess over there
     
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    Don't really think the head of the pre-med committee is that competent. Heard she made some person apply to 9 top ten schools resulting in rejection from all of them. Even though he/she had good stats.
     
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    She cant 'make' someone only apply to 9 schools. Its partially the applicants fault for not doing his own research. I agree though, thats some weak advising


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    She's difficult to work with, yes. But she does her job. I wouldn't call someone incompetent just because you heard one situation about one person. She has def insisted on me applying to certain schools but she's never told me not to apply to more. So it's his fault. She has gotten plenty of people into medical school as your previous posts have implied.
     
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    I believe someone who went to the interview day confirmed that the 30% scholarship was still on the table.
     
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    Yeah the person got into the schools that they picked, but again she recommended all those schools. Even with research if your pre-med committee head is telling you "here's a list of schools I think you should apply to" and they end up being a good amount of top 10, then I wouldn't blame the person, I would assume the person knew she had connections and an understanding. She's a poor adviser anyhow. Doesn't respond to emails until 2 months on average and can't give much insight unless you've done okay on the MCAT and then she will show slight effort. It's not one instance, I've heard several, this one case where she told the person about the elite schools was just a terrible job, probably because that person did stellar on the MCAT.
     
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    Just received II OOS LM ~80
    very excited!!

    and submitted 3/24
     
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    Premed committees are notorious for being like this. "I think you should apply to" doesn't translate to apply to these schools and only these schools. Ultimately you're choosing your schools and thus your responsibility to make your school list. And I know how she is. I've had to work with her for a long time. But you're digressing from the point. She took the time to call accepted students and tell them specifically to avoid going to a new school (no matter how enticing staying at SHU may be) if they were accepted elsewhere. For someone that "doesn't respond to emails until 2 months average" , that's a huge red flag I think.
     
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    On this thread? I couldn't find it but maybe you're right.
     
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    it seems like they want some high stats here
     
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    Here is the confirmation that the 30% off tuition is still on the table.
     
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    Yes it was confirmed at my interview day!
     
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    Can anyone confirm when the next available interview date is?
     
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    Seems like they are interviewing every T/Th
     

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