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jbn91 said:
If you’re referring to my post, I said what I said. People aren’t entitled, because they would like an institution that actually is efficient, timely and not all over the place. It’s not attractive. Especially when there are so many “standards” and requirements set forth for students.

I’m not saying people aren’t being entitled but they are entitled to feel how they choose. From what I see, most people expected better, considering their metrics and Meharry dropped the ball. We know this from people within the institution. There are plenty of us with excellent high yield stats who did not get a secondary, for people with lower stats. So keep that in mind while you ride your high horse.

And some of us got into school elsewhere so we’re good with our entitlement.
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Lol, it's probably your poor attitude that they picked up on and therefore disregarded whatever high stats you have. I wrote a powerful essay and demonstrated years of hospital work and commitment to service and got a secondary, even though my mcat score was below their minimum. It's not all a numbers game. There are TONS of people who have killer stats, but not all of those people have the personal qualifications to be a doctor..
 
LivGirl10 said:
I didnt wait to hear from meharry but was worried it might have been the same news for me. So I started St. George's in January and loving it! I'm almost halfway done my semester. You should consider looking into the school! It only has a 6% attrition rate and I can tell you they do everything in their power to help you. They also take students w similar stats to meharry and lower tier MD schools. I'm glad I went this route and didn't wait two more years to apply again and then start a year later!
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I don’t recommend that route to anyone. St George is also losing one of their accreditation which will start in 2024. So student after 2024 can’t take step 1 or apply for residencies. It’s a waste of debt and time. And their actual attrition rate is more 60%. They accept 1,000 people and only 400 really graduate. My cousin goes there and is struggling. You can’t just list the good when there’s A LOT of disadvantages on that route. And now, the medical field is becoming more saturated with PA and NP. And there’s less residency spots as well. So out of US MD, US DO, and international MD, the international MD will be the first to be cut out of residency selections. I’ve had so many talks with deans of admissions and multiple DOs and MDs regarding this path. I pray that it works for you and you continue to enjoy it. But in the next 4 years, that path may be a lot worse then it was for international students years ago. Do research and be smart about it. If taking a gap year saves you the possibility of so much debt, possibly the school losing accreditation, can’t take step, can’t apply to residency, or not even getting into residency, then the gap year is worth it
 
Mellyjelly123 said:
I don’t recommend that route to anyone. St George is also losing one of their accreditation which will start in 2024. So student after 2024 can’t take step 1 or apply for residencies. It’s a waste of debt and time. And their actual attrition rate is more 60%. They accept 1,000 people and only 400 really graduate. My cousin goes there and is struggling. You can’t just list the good when there’s A LOT of disadvantages on that route. And now, the medical field is becoming more saturated with PA and NP. And there’s less residency spots as well. So out of US MD, US DO, and international MD, the international MD will be the first to be cut out of residency selections. I’ve had so many talks with deans of admissions and multiple DOs and MDs regarding this path. I pray that it works for you and you continue to enjoy it. But in the next 4 years, that path may be a lot worse then it was for international students years ago. Do research and be smart about it. If taking a gap year saves you the possibility of so much debt, possibly the school losing accreditation, can’t take step, can’t apply to residency, or not even getting into residency, then the gap year is worth it
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Honestly-I would only apply to international schools after several US application cycles and not getting in and even probably not then.

And I completely agree with the statement above. I agree that there are plenty of students who do successfully but thats a BIG RISK. I know plenty of students who went there and are unable to get residencies right now and are stuck with the huge debt and no option of getting a MD job. You get weeded out not only bc international but also bc you didn't get into residency first time around. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do your thorough research before going to a foreign medical school and understand the risk that come with going to a school there.

The attrition rate for these schools are VERY HIGH and no disrespect to the student who stated the low attrition rate but the fact that their incoming class and their out-coming class numbers are so different indicates a strong manipulation of "numbers" to say that low attrition rate.
 
LivGirl10 said:
Honestly, not at all! If you get good grades at SGU (classes are pass fail though) and do well on your step 2 and clinicals, you're in just as good shape as someone in the US. Everyone I know who worked hard at SGU made it for match day. Now at other less-good carribean schools, I'd say the odds are stacked against you. But at SGU, they do everything in their power to help you succeed. They offer free tutoring, weekly review sessions led by upper termers who know the ropes, special programs to keep you caught up if they feel you need it -- and much more. they really want to see all of their students thrive and their match rates are solid.
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Smh so hard at this post. Good luck.
 
Has anyone heard anything about second look? I haven't seen anything on their website or received anything about one, virtual or otherwise
 
coffee_3x said:
Has anyone heard anything about second look? I haven't seen anything on their website or received anything about one, virtual or otherwise
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From what I know, there's no second look. At least, I never had one. If you really want something like that, it would be better to get in touch with a current student who can give you an informal tour and the skinny on the good and bad. It's more honest that way anyway.
 
Has anyone applied in November? and if so have you received an email about acceptance/ rejected / reviewing application?
 
Mellyjelly123 said:
I don’t recommend that route to anyone. St George is also losing one of their accreditation which will start in 2024. So student after 2024 can’t take step 1 or apply for residencies. It’s a waste of debt and time. And their actual attrition rate is more 60%. They accept 1,000 people and only 400 really graduate. My cousin goes there and is struggling. You can’t just list the good when there’s A LOT of disadvantages on that route. And now, the medical field is becoming more saturated with PA and NP. And there’s less residency spots as well. So out of US MD, US DO, and international MD, the international MD will be the first to be cut out of residency selections. I’ve had so many talks with deans of admissions and multiple DOs and MDs regarding this path. I pray that it works for you and you continue to enjoy it. But in the next 4 years, that path may be a lot worse then it was for international students years ago. Do research and be smart about it. If taking a gap year saves you the possibility of so much debt, possibly the school losing accreditation, can’t take step, can’t apply to residency, or not even getting into residency, then the gap year is worth it
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I actually completely agree with this. Although there are international Caribbean schools that are well known I feel like it’s too much of a risk. I would rather delay an application cycle to study wholeheartedly for the mcat, making sure I have the clinical hrs volunteer hours abs shadowing hrs. Conducting mock interviews and put the absolute best forward. Even if my gpa was on the low end I would spend extra time catering to other parts of my application. I would strongly advise against carribean schools. Not because I think US schools are harder, but because when it comes to residencies, international schools are competing for these spots as US schools
 
Mellyjelly123 said:
I don’t recommend that route to anyone. St George is also losing one of their accreditation which will start in 2024. So student after 2024 can’t take step 1 or apply for residencies. It’s a waste of debt and time. And their actual attrition rate is more 60%. They accept 1,000 people and only 400 really graduate. My cousin goes there and is struggling. You can’t just list the good when there’s A LOT of disadvantages on that route. And now, the medical field is becoming more saturated with PA and NP. And there’s less residency spots as well. So out of US MD, US DO, and international MD, the international MD will be the first to be cut out of residency selections. I’ve had so many talks with deans of admissions and multiple DOs and MDs regarding this path. I pray that it works for you and you continue to enjoy it. But in the next 4 years, that path may be a lot worse then it was for international students years ago. Do research and be smart about it. If taking a gap year saves you the possibility of so much debt, possibly the school losing accreditation, can’t take step, can’t apply to residency, or not even getting into residency, then the gap year is worth it
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I go to this school and have the class list of last year vs this year.. it's a 6% attrition rate, not 60%. Just saying 🙂 And SGU was the one who wanted to switch accredidations -- it was the school's choice, they're not technically "losing it."
 
LivGirl10 said:
I go to this school and have the class list of last year vs this year.. it's a 6% attrition rate, not 60%. Just saying 🙂 And SGU was the one who wanted to switch accredidations -- it was the school's choice, they're not technically "losing it."
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Also I got a huge scholarship so I won't really be in any kind of debt in the end (I am lucky). I am set to take step in 2023 as I just started this term so whatever people think is happening in 2024, I will have already sat for step so it won't affect me. It's the best school outside the US and as I said I've seen this school fight like crazy to help their students succeed! There were 1000 students last term and less than 100 didn't make it onto the next term. So yeah definitely not a 60% attrition rate, lol. I think you're thinking of Ross. Not SGU.
 
LivGirl10 said:
Also I got a huge scholarship so I won't really be in any kind of debt in the end (I am lucky). I am set to take step in 2023 as I just started this term so whatever people think is happening in 2024, I will have already sat for step so it won't affect me. It's the best school outside the US and as I said I've seen this school fight like crazy to help their students succeed! There were 1000 students last term and less than 100 didn't make it onto the next term. So yeah definitely not a 60% attrition rate, lol. I think you're thinking of Ross. Not SGU.
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SGU has a much larger attrition rate when accounting for all 4 years. Plus I’ve meant with one of the deans and they told me that it is much higher than US schools. That is obviously your choice so that’s good for you and hope it goes well. I do not want this thread to become a debate
 
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LivGirl10 said:
I go to this school and have the class list of last year vs this year.. it's a 6% attrition rate, not 60%. Just saying 🙂 And SGU was the one who wanted to switch accredidations -- it was the school's choice, they're not technically "losing it."
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I hate to be a downer but the 6% attrition rate isn't defined anywhere and comes directly from SGU's marketing material. It could mean anything. The only actual verifiable stats I could find are from this New York Times article (Second-Chance Med School (Published 2014)) saying only 65% of students that enrolled in 2009 graduated within 4 years, although another 20% graduated after 5 years.

Granted this article is from 6 years ago and the study is 12 years old. Its possible things have changed, but I wouldn't bet on it.
 
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Is there a facebook group or GroupMe for accepted students yet?

Also, has anyone been offered financial aid yet?
 
kpeezy24 said:
Is there a facebook group or GroupMe for accepted students yet?

Also, has anyone been offered financial aid yet?
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Not sure about the accepted students group (also curious about this!!) but I emailed and was told that we were supposed to get information on financial aid and upcoming events for admitted students this week. Given that it’s Friday afternoon I doubt that’s happening on schedule, which is unfortunate given trafficking deadlines coming up😬
 
coffee_3x said:
Not sure about the accepted students group (also curious about this!!) but I emailed and was told that we were supposed to get information on financial aid and upcoming events for admitted students this week. Given that it’s Friday afternoon I doubt that’s happening on schedule, which is unfortunate given trafficking deadlines coming up😬
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Exactly. April 15 is creeping up quick and I'd like to know my options before making any decisions
 
docofthefuture89 said:
I hate to be a downer but the 6% attrition rate isn't defined anywhere and comes directly from SGU's marketing material. It could mean anything. The only actual verifiable stats I could find are from this New York Times article (Second-Chance Med School (Published 2014)) saying only 65% of students that enrolled in 2009 graduated within 4 years, although another 20% graduated after 5 years.

Granted this article is from 6 years ago and the study is 12 years old. Its possible things have changed, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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It doesn't matter if it's quoted. As I said I go to the school, I've seen the class lists for each term and counted who moved on and who didn't. I was curious and compared the lists side by side and yes just as SGU told me it does come out to about a 6% attrition rate. The school with 40-50% drop out rate that you're thinking of is Ross. Just like UDC is not the same as Harvard, certain sub par carribean medical school with little to no graduation are not even close to being in the same ball park as SGU. 🙂
 
Mellyjelly123 said:
I don’t recommend that route to anyone. St George is also losing one of their accreditation which will start in 2024. So student after 2024 can’t take step 1 or apply for residencies. It’s a waste of debt and time. And their actual attrition rate is more 60%. They accept 1,000 people and only 400 really graduate. My cousin goes there and is struggling. You can’t just list the good when there’s A LOT of disadvantages on that route. And now, the medical field is becoming more saturated with PA and NP. And there’s less residency spots as well. So out of US MD, US DO, and international MD, the international MD will be the first to be cut out of residency selections. I’ve had so many talks with deans of admissions and multiple DOs and MDs regarding this path. I pray that it works for you and you continue to enjoy it. But in the next 4 years, that path may be a lot worse then it was for international students years ago. Do research and be smart about it. If taking a gap year saves you the possibility of so much debt, possibly the school losing accreditation, can’t take step, can’t apply to residency, or not even getting into residency, then the gap year is worth it
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Since I have the class lists as I go to SGU and was able to see how many people moved on and how many didn't, and can tell you with confidence the majority of students graduated and on time, I can tell you without hesitation hat's a made up statistic that 400/1000 students don't graduate lol. Can I see your accredited source making that claim? If you can't provide one, (as it won't exist) please don't go around spreading false information.
 
I am going to ask everyone to try to keep the discussions more on topic, and please use this thread to discuss your Meharry application cycle.

I appreciate your cooperation, and would ask you in general to use this forum Help Me Decide: X vs Y Medical School
to discuss one school against another.
Wysdoc
 
doc.on.lock said:
Does anyone know how fast campus housing gets filled? I'm looking at Moreno, but I haven't interviewed yet. Should I wait until after I interview or after acceptance (if I get in) to apply? I'm scared that by the time I hear back, there won't be any spots left.
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On campus housing fills VERY fast and is probably full already. Look off campus and have some plan B, C and D places in mind.
 
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