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80k over four years? That’s really cheap in the grand scheme of things… no?Just got financial aid.... $80,000 in loans. No thank you. Really disappointed in the little financial support from this school.
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80k over four years? That’s really cheap in the grand scheme of things… no?Just got financial aid.... $80,000 in loans. No thank you. Really disappointed in the little financial support from this school.
80k / year, not including summer tuition and COL.80k over four years? That’s really cheap in the grand scheme of things… no?
Nope, just like @JohnJacobJingleheimer said, it's unfortunately $80k per year, making it $320k + interest for four years. I loved the school, but that price tag is not worth it.80k over four years? That’s really cheap in the grand scheme of things… no?
Wow! Well I hope you receive a boatload of scholarship money!Nope, just like @JohnJacobJingleheimer said, it's unfortunately $80k per year, making it $320k + interest for four years. I loved the school, but that price tag is not worth it.
There is another acceptance day on the third Friday of April. You’re still in the running!if I am still on DD is that a waitlist for sure? or is there another acceptance day in april?
IMHO it's not that simple - a lot of people will probably withdraw due to high COL in Chicago and lack of scholarships. Also, statistically speaking, more people will probably withdraw from Chicago overall (as it's the biggest of all three) and pick other schools for various reasons. There are also EquIMED and RMED folks which will be (re)assigned from Chicago. Will it balance preferences for Chicago? That's impossible to guess without the data only adcom has 😉Is it safe to assume that since everyone wants to be assigned to Chicago and people that are assigned to Rockford and Peoria are more likely to withdraw their application then people that are still waiting for acceptances will be more likely to be assigned to Rockford or Peoria?
literally, none here or in the FB pageAnyone wanna write a detailed experience for Rockford now? 😂
AFAIK no - based on FAFSA everyone is enrolled in all scholarships offered prematriculation and based on FAFSA loan offers are made.Is there anything that needs to be completed besides FAFSA for financial aid?
I received my token this morning.Anyone received an activation token?
I got an email and in my financial aid portal it shows it thereWhere do we see if we've received a scholarship? Also are all scholarships need based, merit based, or a combo?
Where do we see if we've received a scholarship? Also are all scholarships need based, merit based, or a combo?
I got an email and in my financial aid portal it shows it there
Thanks so much! So if I haven't received my financial aid yet I wouldn't be able to see any scholarships?All scholarships are merit based. You can see what’s available on the COM financial aid website. They will notify you via email if you receive one. Sending good vibes for good news!
I dont have my cost of attendance finalized or my financial aid showing yet and still shows my scholarship amount. If you go to your myUIC page and look under "financial aid summary" it should show there. As of now only thing for me showing is my scholarshipThanks so much! So if I haven't received my financial aid yet I wouldn't be able to see any scholarships?
What made you decide to withdraw?withdrawing, good luck everyone <3
received my FA package, have full ride elsewhereWhat made you decide to withdraw?
Good luck at Hofstra.withdrawing, good luck everyone <3
Thank you so much for that write up!Curriculum & grading details
There was some time dedicated to discussing P/F. UICOM will use true P/F during preclinical time, with no honors or any (even internal) ranking tackled into it.
There is internal ranking.Thank you so much for that write up!
If they still make junior and senior AOA nominations so I assume there has to be an internal ranking? Otherwise it would just be random?
Wait. So, it's not a true P/F system, right? Sorry, it's just very confusing. Will they report your pre-clinical quartile to the residency program?There is internal ranking.
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MSPE Quartile in Class Calculation (2021 Graduates and forward)
MSPE Quartile in Class Calculation Algorithm for Determination of MSPE Quartiles in the Class of 2022 Algorithm for Determination of MSPE Quartiles in the Class of 2023 Algorithm for Determination of MSPE Quartiles in the Class of 2024medicine.uic.edu
I could be wrong, but what I seem to gather is this:Wait. So, it's not a true P/F system, right? Sorry, it's just very confusing. Will they report your pre-clinical quartile to the residency program?
The AOA rules seem reasonable: New AOA Membership Selection (2021 Graduates and forward)If they still make junior and senior AOA nominations so I assume there has to be an internal ranking? Otherwise it would just be random?
I think it is a true P/F for preclinical and nothing besides P/F is reported to residencies wrt to academics. IIRC someone even asked about that and they mentioned heavier weight being placed on involvement during preclinical due to P/F (both curriculum and STEP1). @wontons provided a nice summary above which is how I see this as well - they even say on the MSPE "In keeping with P/F approach, students passing all components without failing a major exam receive 42 points". In addition, they specifically said that a single failure and retake will be only internal.... so I guess only a second failure after remediation with PEP will cause points deduction? Maybe some MS form UIC can chime in here 😉Wait. So, it's not a true P/F system, right? Sorry, it's just very confusing. Will they report your pre-clinical quartile to the residency program?
Ofc it is possible. Go for it if you know a PI in those universities or a project you are very interested to participate in. But if you are doing it just for the name tag, don't. It will sound pathetic.Out of curiosity, would be possible to conduct research at Northwestern or UChicago if a student attends UIC?
I should have specified, not those particular schools but their affiliated hospitals. For example, Northwestern medical center has a top-notch cancer program. I have aspirations of going into oncology and conducting research here would be immeasurable. Additionally, Rush has a fantastic orthopedics program. Doing research here can help people who want to pursue orthopedic surgeryOfc it is possible. Go for it if you know a PI in those universities or a project you are very interested to participate in. But if you are doing it just for the name tag, don't. It will sound pathetic.
Just putting my two cents out there: As someone has worked in research at multiple Chicago hospitals/schools (can be hard to disentangle them depending on the institution and their structure, eg. many of the medical center divisions at UChicago are operated under the Universities Biological Sciences Division), I would just echo Med Love's sentiment about do it only if there's specific projects and mentors you would want to work with. For every institution outside of your medical school, you'd have to do all of the necessary bureaucracy (if working with clinical data, background checks and drug tests and such). There's also the question of convenience. I'd say a UIC and Rush collaboration would make sense because geographically they are next to each other in the medical district. If you're working at UChicago and need to head down to Hyde Park for a meeting or to do research, that's a big hassle. Northwestern not as big of a hassle, but still a hassle. But as a student, no one is going to knock you for doing research at your home institution. I think the biggest thing is to remember that even the orthopedic surgeons at UIC got through the competitiveness of the specialty. Enjoy med school, and cultivate meaningful connections with mentors!Out of curiosity, would be possible to conduct research at Northwestern or UChicago if a student attends UIC?
Hi! Does anyone know if there is a roommate search page or have any info on finding roommates/housing? 🙂
Still in the process, not even close to the end from what they said during the 2nd look. They mentioned the process will continue even after April 30th.Are they still distributing scholarships or all scholarships are out?
Oh wow. It's gonna be hard to choose schools before 4/30 then.Still in the process, not even close to the end from what they said during the 2nd look. They mentioned the process will continue even after April 30th.
What made up your mind?Just rescinded my acceptance here hope one of the folks on waitlist hears back soon!
I’m probably going to Rush due to lower out of state tuition and Chicago placementWhat made up your mind?
Alright. Let's take a look:I’m probably going to Rush due to lower out of state tuition and Chicago placement
Rush is undoubtedly the better choice for an OOS applicant, especially if placed at Peoria or Rockford.Alright. Let's take a look:
1) Rush is a private institution. Therefore, it does no discriminate between IS and OOS. So there is no such a thing as "out of state tuition" at Rush.
2) Tuition and fees combined at UICOM are $25,953 cheaper than Rush.
Rush:
M1 (Tuition + Fee): 58,958 + 29,531 = 88,516
M2 (Tuition + Fee): 75,347 + 30,376 = 105,723
M3 (Tuition + Fee): 56,511 + 29,532 = 86,043
M4 (Tuition + Fee): 37,674 + 19,688 = 57,362
Total at Rush: $337,644
UICOM at Chicago (Peoria and Rockford are cheaper than Chicago) => Calculated for OOS:
M1 (Tuition + Fee): 78,537 + 6,298 = 84,835
M2 (Tuition + Fee): 78,537 + 6,298 = 84,835
M3 (Tuition + Fee): 78,537 + 6,298 = 84,835
M4 (Tuition + Fee): 52,358 + 4,828 = 57,186
Total at UICOM: $311,691
Sources:
A) 2020-2021 Tuition Rates | Tuition | Rush University
B) https://medicine.uic.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/2122_11term_Chicago.pdf
3) Not living in Chicago means you will be saving even more money due to cost of living (housing/food/transportation).
4) Rush is ranked #68 according to US News while UICOM is ranked #55.
5) Can't believe someone just compared UICOM with Rush ...
All the reasons hit perfectly. If I were instate and had the opportunity it may have been a harder decision but out of state tuition and larger class size were the deal breakers for me. Also I did not have Chicago placement so 🤷♀️Rush is undoubtedly the better choice for an OOS applicant (and maybe even an IS applicant), especially if placed at Peoria or Rockford.
And your tuition comparison is very wrong. UICOM has Summer tuition as well, which you did not include in your totals. Based on the links you provided:
UICOM OOS Tuition:
M1: 78,236 (Fall/Spring) + 34,061 (Summer) = 112,297
M2: 112,942 (Fall/Spring/Summer)
M3: 114,242 (Fall/Spring/Summer)
M4: 78,236 (Fall/Spring) (No Summer Term)
Total at UICOM: $417,717
Rush Tuition:
M1: 57,241 (Fall/Spring/Summer) + 28,671 (Enrollment Fee) = 85,912
M2: 73,152 (Fall/Spring/Summer) + 38,229 (Enrollment Fee) = 111,381
M3: 54,864 (Fall/Spring/Summer) + 28,671 (Enrollment Fee) = 83,535
M4: 36,567 (Fall/Spring) (No Summer Term) + 19,114 (Enrollment Fee) = 55,681
Total at Rush: $336,509
So about ~81k cheaper to attend Rush.
To address #3, living in Rockford and Peoria sucks compared to Chicago (source: I've lived in many parts of IL). Living in Chicago is a bit more expensive, but the medical district where both UICOM and Rush are is not terribly expensive at all. Can definetely find decent 1 bed/1 bath apartments for $1,000-$1,500. If you want cheaper, can find roommates and pay like $600-$900 a month.
To address #4, US news rankings don't mean anything when schools are 10 ranks apart lol. A more accurate (but still flawed ranking) is the PD ranking. And Rush and UICOM have the exact same PD ranking at #56.
Knowing people who go to both Rush and UICOM (Chicago, Rockford, and Peoria), those at Rush feel more supported by faculty and admin. UICOM, like many state schools, kind of leave students to fend for themselves. Research at the UICOM Chicago campus may be slightly better than Rush I guess? But Rush still has good research opportunities. Also, the schools are right next to each other, and you can do research at either school no matter which you choose.
Rush is the easy choice here for an OOS applicant.
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