CHOOSE YOUR OWWN IV - Game Thread

[Barkley13]

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bad, i tried to push her

I think you died before I knew I was a wolf though so I assumed I was village at the time you were trying to push me

 

[Barkley13]

Noting that barky never came back to answer this

The site was under maintenance when I was trying to catch up last night lol

 

[GoSpursGo]

The site was under maintenance when I was trying to catch up last night lol

This actually makes sense and I got caught in that too.

 

[fruitsalad]

can you explain your thoughts on this vote? what were you trying to gain, achieve, or push?

that was part of my views that i didnt like apops trying to wagon (or more clearly, readily jumping in existing wagons)

 

[fruitsalad]

certainly interesting raes and spurs are putting heavy emphasis on my vote switching near day close

 

[fruitsalad]

For those who have played with barks before - is what we've seen so far on par for them? Are they typically a lower poster?

i played with barky before, felt she didn’t sound good, and she was a wolf. i dont know what village barky is like

 

[fruitsalad]

I think you died before I knew I was a wolf though so I assumed I was village at the time you were trying to push me

i don’t understand

you were a wolf from the start i thought?

 

[GoSpursGo]

certainly interesting raes and spurs are putting heavy emphasis on my vote switching near day close

Would you care to walk us through your thought process to explain what you were trying to accomplish?

 

[WildZoo]

I'm just going down the roster!

(And leaving dubz, samac, and shorty for last because hell to the no)

I find it amusing that you're even going to try I'm less nonsense after d1, I promise

 

[_rae_]

@_rae_ how do you feel about zenge's push to try to start a wagon on you last night?

Zenge is next, but let me hit that spurs post first

 

[alissa14]

Spoiler: Yeet Tracker

yeet beans

for now

and Yeet Zenge for being a tattletale

wow glad to know you're not reading my posts at all

unyeet zenge, yeet apop

Sorry I don't listen to cheater McCheaterFaces
{joke}

Yeet Shorty

(I don't think this counts toward # of posts)

YEET SHORTY

SHE GAVE UP CAMILLA VILLAGER SHES DEFINITELY GOO

unyeet beans
yeet barky

Sure can't, glad to know you didn't read the roles list

Unyeet apop, yeet samac

unyeet barky
yeet CG

Day 1 Yeet Tally
beans () -
Zenge () -
apop () -
shorty (2) - apop, samac
Barks () -
samac (1) - shorty
CG (1) - fruit

4/17
yeet close in ~23.5 hours

hmm

unyeet CG
yeet SAR

Unyeet samac, yeet tattletale!Zenge

unyeet SAR
yeet CG

Uh... yeet @CeeGee14

@kaydub @Animal Midwife @Dr. ForgotToFlush

unyeet shorty
yeet cg

I had my doubts you picked villager with another option available

OH. I see.

That's dumb. Why does that exist?

Unyeet CG

@kaydubs @Animal Midwife @Dr. ForgotToFlush

unyeet CG
yeet apop

Day 1 Yeet Tally
beans () -
Zenge (1) - shorty
apop (1) - fruit
shorty (1) - samac
Barks () -
samac () -
CG (1) - apop
SAR () -

4/17
yeet close in ~23.5 hours

Yeet samac

Because i feel i need to 🥰

Oh that's why we had homework 🫣.
Sorry @CeeGee14

Unyeet CG (for now...)

@kaydubs

(7/10)

Oh

yeet @Zenge142
@kaydubs @Animal Midwife @Dr. ForgotToFlush

He really is trying hard to drag other honest working folks down

Vote zenge

Just in case before I have to stop for the night (which means skimming thread in between anatomy flash cards until 1 AM)

I shall return with reads in in the morn

(8/10)

I am sus at all the above. I’ve played with maybe 1/3 of the roster and the rest are new to me. I feel like the above sounds like scum trying to point blame at someone other than themselves and seeing what might stick

Yeet fruit

Yeet shorty

Wow that feels so weird

Unyeet shorty

Day 1 Yeet Tally
beans () -
Zenge (3) - shorty, Spurs, apop
apop (1) - fruit
shorty (1) - samac
Barks () -
samac (1) - kitz
CG () -
SAR () -
fruit (1) - alissa

7/17
yeet close in ~21 hours

unyeet zenge

Not that I don't think it's a valid vote but I don't want a runaway wagon d1

Going to mildly rein in silly goosery this morning (sad face) and may revisit pending day posts after my final in a few hours.

###vote samac###

@Animal Midwife

Oh good I'm caught up finally. Clem and Alissa are going in my strong village pile. I think that's all I'm going to commit to for now

♭ ♭ ♭ ♭ ♭ ♭ ♭ ♭ yeet samac ♭ ♭ ♭ ♭ ♭ ♭ ♭ ♭

for now @kaydubs @Animal Midwife I'd @ ftf but I can't remember his username and don't feel like strugglebussing atm

unyeet apop
yeet beans

for now

That would be a wild thing to make up instead of just claiming vanillager

If it makes you feel better, I’m not reading alissa as village at this time

I may not catch up today but I must go to work now

Yeet spurs
@Animal Midwife @Dr. ForgotToFlush @kaydubs

Based on vibes mainly

Yeet apop
@Animal Midwife @Dr. ForgotToFlush @kaydubs

Unyeet samac

I told her to do something villagey and her response to the whole thing did feel it

Yeet beans

Hmm actually

Unyeet beans yeet CG

unyeet beans
yeet barky

@Animal Midwife @kaydubs @Dr. ForgotToFlush

I think for now, I want to
yeet CG
@Animal Midwife @kaydubs

I could be convinced to move somewhere else but for right now I feel like she's one of the more sus individuals in my list.

unyeet shorty

I'm gonna do a thing
Nobody eat me for it please

Yeet dubz

@Animal Midwife

Ok I've done my thread science I'm going to
Unyeet dubz (for now)
Yeet zenge

I don't agree with samac vote and i while i can empathize the cg vote I don't feel great for a d1. Last d1 for cg was a misyeet.

I'll move if we have a tie or I someone gets way more sus in the next few hours but otherwise I think I'm sticking this time

yeet cg

Yeet Spurs

@Animal Midwife @Dr. ForgotToFlush

Unyeet Spurs
Yeet Rae

@Animal Midwife @Dr. ForgotToFlush

Aha

CG was indeed misyotened on D2 of Supernatural, which was the first day of yeeting

As I am leading this vote, and as I am generally wrong on my D1 pingy pings...

unyeet CG

Actually you know what

I'm back to

yeet CG

Day 1 Yeet Tally
beans () -
Zenge (4) - shorty, Spurs, apop, alissa
apop () -
shorty () -
Barks (1) - fruit
samac (2) - kitz, Clem
CG (3) - beans, samac, Dubz
SAR () -
fruit () -
Spurs (1) - Barks
Dubz () -
rae (1) - Zenge

12/17
yeet close in ~1.5 hours
Missing: rae, SAR, CG, genny, PSV

Yeet spurs

I think this is my strongest gut feeling and while I hate to do this to him while he’s away, I feel like this is what makes sense.

unyeet CG yeet rae

Imagine me literally making this face right now

accelerated catching up

let's spice things

unyeet barky
yeet CG

@Animal Midwife @kaydubs @Dr. ForgotToFlush

###unvote samac###

###vote cg###

@Animal Midwife @kaydubs I'm sorry ftf it's too hard to tag you

(Unvote is in a previous post)

let's try

unyeet CG
yeet raes

for now

@Animal Midwife @kaydubs @Dr. ForgotToFlush

ok i don't feel good with the raes vote, just got a hunch this is a bad vote and i'm making a mistake

unyeet rae
yeet spurs

@Animal Midwife @kaydubs @Dr. ForgotToFlush

hmm, something interesting's going on

let's try this then

unyeet CG
yeet zenges

@Animal Midwife @kaydubs @Dr. ForgotToFlush

Day 1 Yeet Tally
beans () -
Zenge (7) - shorty, Spurs, apop, alissa, PSV, genny, fruit
apop () -
shorty () -
Barks () -
samac (1) - kitz
CG (3) - beans, samac, Clem
SAR () -
fruit () -
Spurs (2) - Barks, rae
Dubz () -
rae (2) - Zenge, Dubz

15/17
yeet close in ~28 minutes
Missing: SAR, CG

I think I'm gonna go with:

yeet Dubz

I don't know how I feel about voting Spurs when he's not around to at least defend himself. And I have no idea what V!Dubz is like

@Animal Midwife @kaydubs @Dr. ForgotToFlush

unyeet zenge
yeet CG

@Animal Midwife @kaydubs @Dr. ForgotToFlush

unyeet rae yeet CG

ignoring the ATE and the tally, we're thunderdoming

I really don’t believe in this vote but I guess I should self prez.

Unyeet Rae
Yeet CeeGee

@Animal Midwife @Dr. ForgotToFlush

unyeet CG
yeet spurs

@Animal Midwife @kaydubs @Dr. ForgotToFlush

i'm personally down, i think there's something very weird going on

unyeet spurs
yeet raes

@Animal Midwife @kaydubs @Dr. ForgotToFlush

Heck it

Yeet beans

To put something on the board

Also I'm still trapped under the child and at 1% phone battery so uh yolo?

unyeet zenge

unyeet raes
yeet CG

Unyeet Zenge guhhhhhhh

Final Day 1 Yeet Tally
beans (1) - SAR
Zenge (4) - Spurs, apop, alissa, PSV
apop () -
shorty () -
Barks () -
samac (1) - kitz
CG (6) - beans, samac, Clem, Dubz, Zenge, fruit
SAR () -
fruit () -
Spurs (2) - Barks, rae
Dubz (1) - CG
rae () -

15/17
Missing: genny, shorty

Okay i cannot promise this level of dedication in the future but I have extra time this afternoon between appointments. I compiled all of the votes. When skimming through the pages, something pinged me about Dubz/Fruit so I need to go back and re-look and compile thoughts, but I have a small ball of tinfoil right now and idk how to feel about it.

 

[_rae_]

I disagree with your assessment. I think across all my games, I tend to do my best to not waffle, and I hate changing my vote more than a couple of times in a cycle. I also hate holstering votes until the end of the day and would much rather have some sense of where people are leaning early on to be able to talk through things. This would not be AI, IMO.

I agree, you don't love moving your vote around, but from the one time I saw you wolf you also were perfectly content to stay away from wagons. It made you look good. I even village read you for that. So I'm not saying that alone is clearing for you.

Would you have preferred I said "vibes?" Or how about "I simply don't like their answers?"

This is pointy, pokey spurs to me. Pointy like W, not soft relaxed like V.

I truly still have no idea what you're talking about here. Could you please point me in the direction of the post in question?

I cannot find it. Beans posed that me and Kitsz could be lying about our affiliation choice and a bunch of people jumped on them. I thought you were part of it but I'm not seeing what I saw so I could be wrong.

 

[_rae_]

Okay i cannot promise this level of dedication in the future but I have extra time this afternoon between appointments. I compiled all of the votes. When skimming through the pages, something pinged me about Dubz/Fruit so I need to go back and re-look and compile thoughts, but I have a small ball of tinfoil right now and idk how to feel about it.

Impressive. I am impressed.

 

[Barkley13]

I think I'm adding PSV to my village pile with Clem, Alissa, and Kitz. I liked her progression and eventual backing off on samac while I was also working through sus there for different reasons. Felt very not-opportunistic

Hm, is this still your village pile now? It gave me some pause seeing Clem and Alissa there but I suppose at this point a few others were village reading her too

 

[alissa14]

Spoiler: WildFruit Yeet Votes

unyeet apop
yeet beans

for now

Yeet beans

Hmm actually

Unyeet beans yeet CG

unyeet beans
yeet barky

@Animal Midwife @kaydubs @Dr. ForgotToFlush

Aha

CG was indeed misyotened on D2 of Supernatural, which was the first day of yeeting

As I am leading this vote, and as I am generally wrong on my D1 pingy pings...

unyeet CG

Actually you know what

I'm back to

yeet CG

unyeet CG yeet rae

Imagine me literally making this face right now

accelerated catching up

let's spice things

unyeet barky
yeet CG

@Animal Midwife @kaydubs @Dr. ForgotToFlush

let's try

unyeet CG
yeet raes

for now

@Animal Midwife @kaydubs @Dr. ForgotToFlush

unyeet zenge
yeet CG

@Animal Midwife @kaydubs @Dr. ForgotToFlush

unyeet rae yeet CG

ignoring the ATE and the tally, we're thunderdoming

There was quite a bit of similarity in voting pattern between Dubz and Fruit yesterday that I am finding interesting despite fruit bebopping all over the place. It's just eeking me out. I am also trying to figure out what the faction strategy might've been with the way the voting played out but not entirely sure.

 

[GoSpursGo]

This is pointy, pokey spurs to me. Pointy like W, not soft relaxed like V.

I'm sorry, I was being flippant. But my point was you didn't like "Just felt a little easy to throw shade literally only on players that voted for them, and then defend fruits." It seems like I could have just as easily said "vibes," or your language, "I simply don't like." So I'm not quite sure what seemed off about how I phrased my point.

Regardless, thanks for responding. I understand where you're coming from.

 

[_rae_]

I'm sorry, I was being flippant. But my point was you didn't like "Just felt a little easy to throw shade literally only on players that voted for them, and then defend fruits." It seems like I could have just as easily said "vibes," or your language, "I simply don't like." So I'm not quite sure what seemed off about how I phrased my point.

Regardless, thanks for responding. I understand where you're coming from.

To clarify, I'm not mad at it. It's just something I'm noting.

Trying to make sure that even if they turn out wrong, people can follow my thought process.

 

[Barkley13]

fruit, Clem, alissa, PSV, kitz

samac

genny?

I think are my current towny vibes, with a number of people I need to sort through my feels on when I get home

Why fruit and Clem

Why were so many people reading Clem as village at this point. My brain may be goo from all the pages I’m reading to catch up but I don’t remember anything that stood out at particularly villagey

 

[samac]

Oh thank god it’s only 3 pages

 

[Barkley13]

i'll hold off on voting the leading wagons for a while, i'm interested in seeing alternatives

like

barky

I’m confused why you kept bringing me up and trying to push me when I wasn’t here/hasn’t posted in a while? I have not seen you bring anyone else up much

 

[Barkley13]

Oh thank god it’s only 3 pages

I wish. I started 20+ pages behind

 

[_rae_]

Zenge zonge zinge zunge zange

Three pages, what was he up to?

Spoiler

Pushing this narrative pretty hard, Fruit...

I like this. This feels natural. This was in response to Fruit early on saying "CG feels caught" after the cop vs. lover vs. cop/lover confusion.

I don't think I believe in the CG vote. I'll self prez if I have to, but I'm not super interested in flipping CG today, if I'm being honest.

I could go either way on this. I do believe based on Zenge's previous mulling about throughout the day, this feels genuine.

Yeet Spurs

@Animal Midwife @Dr. ForgotToFlush

This was an interesting choice to me. I had recently said I think that spurs was one of my strongest reads.

Unyeet Spurs
Yeet Rae

@Animal Midwife @Dr. ForgotToFlush

This also surprised me. At that point, Zenge's only interest in me was saying that the way I talked about shorty sounded pockety. Genuinely, this felt out of left field and about an hour later was when fruit ended up voting for me.

Can I interest you in Rae?

join me on raes pls

Stream of consciousness while I'm looking at this that this does read as if Zenge and fruit might be paired but I'm not confident enough to scream from the roof yet....

I’m voting Rae because there was a tonal thing that pinged me in Rae’s posts yesterday that I haven’t shaken.

I don't think zenge ever explained this.

Tldr, I see zenge sussing me, and that isn't the issue. It's the alignment with fruit and the lack of explanation. Zenge is in my sus pool, but I'm not sure he's in my "I want to see him flip next" pool.

 

[_rae_]

Okay what am I at, fruit spurs, barks, and zenge?

This is a lot.

 

[_rae_]

Clemothy, also a three pager

Spoiler

This is hard for me to reconcile:

I really want apop to be town

I kinda think zenge is mafia

Anyways zenge is lock town lol

But I have a really hard time reading when Clem is being facetious.

###vote cg###

@Animal Midwife @kaydubs I'm sorry ftf it's too hard to tag you

(Unvote is in a previous post)

I'm unsure why clem jumped on the bandwagon, but it made fruit IMMEDIATELY jump off it.

Pre vote barky

I'm also interested to hear from clem on this.

tldr, I can't read clem any better than I ever have. He's currently not on my radar at the moment for immediate yeets, but we'll see how that goes.

 

[supershorty]

I think you died before I knew I was a wolf though so I assumed I was village at the time you were trying to push me

Hello, it's lunch time.

This is correct. You and CeeGee both joined wolf chat at the end of N2, which is the same night that fruit died, so all of your interactions with him were before you or CeeGee knew your affiliations.

 

[Barkley13]

eah I can totally see how the progression of me giving CG village vibes and then breaking the tie in her favor looks TERRIBLE for me lol.

Why would that look terrible without knowing her affiliation at the time? 🤔

 

[supershorty]

Why fruit and Clem

Why were so many people reading Clem as village at this point. My brain may be goo from all the pages I’m reading to catch up but I don’t remember anything that stood out at particularly villagey

I had some real-time interactions with Clem at the start of yesterday that felt pretty good and I agree with Spurs that some of Clem's reads since then have felt towny to me (in that I don't get any sort of vibe of concern about how people might perceive his reads, he feels pretty relaxed, he's happy to make strong statements and then flip them around completely as a joke, etc.).

 

[supershorty]

Stream of consciousness while I'm looking at this that this does read as if Zenge and fruit might be paired but I'm not confident enough to scream from the roof yet....

If they were paired, why say that on thread and not in scum chat?

 

[Clem J]

flip them around completely as a joke,

Yeah haha...as a joke...

 

[Clem J]

Guys I am free from this hellish semester and I only missed turning in like 5 assignments over 4 classes

 

[GoSpursGo]

If they were paired, why say that on thread and not in scum chat?

Zenge and fruits weren't talking to each other, they were trying to convince other players to follow a rae wagon.

 

[alissa14]

Why would that look terrible without knowing her affiliation at the time? 🤔

Because Dubz was wolf reading CG. If CG flipped wolf, it would look bad for me

 

[Barkley13]

I had some real-time interactions with Clem at the start of yesterday that felt pretty good and I agree with Spurs that some of Clem's reads since then have felt towny to me (in that I don't get any sort of vibe of concern about how people might perceive his reads, he feels pretty relaxed, he's happy to make strong statements and then flip them around completely as a joke, etc.).

I just got to him flipping his read on samac which felt good

 

[Barkley13]

Single digits

 

[supershorty]

Alright, unless there is a scum faction that thinks I'm other-scum, I think it's very unlikely I need to leave a legacy tonight. Nevertheless, it appears I have made giving them part of my MO, so here are my thoughts.

Village lean (note I'm realizing that I'm using "I liked their line of questioning" a lot, so that is probably a verbose way of saying "vibes")
@Clem J --as I previously said, I thought his snap-reading players early in the day yesterday felt natural and like v!Clem
@alissa14 --seems very engaged in questioning from an earnest perspective of meeting and understanding new players. Nothing has felt off.
@apoptosis09 --personally I think they were actively trying to change playstyle to not get auto-scum-read again, and playing different seemed to feel off to other players. I've never seen w!apop but this felt like a phenotype of village that could exist.
@potentialsheltervet --also generally like the lines of questioning, felt similar to previous V!PSV.
@supershorty --questioning also seemed very genuine, worked overdrive to track down old reads and compare to current. I don't put anything past such an experienced player, but it would be an awful lot of work to put in to create a smokescreen for a scum player.
@beans2020 --also feels like a nice, relaxed line of questioning. I still am not sure what @_rae_ meant by "the beans thing"

Neutral:
@SARdoghandler --more of a null than anything for now
@genny --I had in my village lean, but as noted above the flash flip at the end deserves scrutiny
@WildZoo --I'll be honest... I've skipped most of their posts in order to catch up in a reasonable timeframe. Another player where I feel like there is a wide range of play styles that could fit either scum or village. Will just have to watch
@_rae_ --I went back and forth on putting her here or in POE, and I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt that yesterday was just a very busy day. Picking up the pieces after the fact, I don't really disagree with her reads that much, though I think she got flack for limited reasoning.
@samac --I also went back and forth on putting her here or in POE, and landed on I think yesterday was super busy so I can't really get a solid read yet. Something felt off, but that can happen when someone is busy. But I'm watching.

POE:
@kitzsuna --I do not think she was derpcleared, and I don't like that her reads have basically been high volume players and players who suss'd her first.
@Zenge142 --Because he tickled my nose at the beginning of the day in a way that led to me voting for him, and nothing changed my opinion.
@Barkley13 --Don't like that they literally never gave a reason for their vote yesterday. I know we did a lot of ****posting, but that isn't an unreasonable bar to expect someone who is village to clear.
@fruitsalad --I don't think the voting noise at the beginning of the day was necessarily benign, and even beyond the 8:59p vote, the voting noise in the 8pm hour I'm not sure is benign

@GoSpursGo, can you talk to me more about your reads on Dubz, samac, and kitz, in particular?
I'm primarily curious about those because you didn't skip most of my posts (or at least didn't own up to it 😛) even though I had substantially more than Dubz. But I don't want to put words in your mouth about content:fluff ratio if that's not what you were getting at.

samac and kitz both have gotten some town reads from other players because of conversations surrounding their roles/discards (especially kitz) - did samac's mason thing factor into your read at all?

What do you mean with the "got flack for limited reasoning" on rae - my instinct is to read that with a negative connotation, is that how it is intended to be written? What differences are there in your world right now between rae and Barky that separated them into different tiers, is it solely the vote reasoning?

 

[supershorty]

I like this. This feels natural. This was in response to Fruit early on saying "CG feels caught" after the cop vs. lover vs. cop/lover confusion.

This is a little bit interesting to me because I think this is the exact opposite take from someone who was sussing him for that comment (it might have been CeeGee, but don't quote me on that).

I'm not sure about how I feel about these mini-ISOs that rae is doing - I like that she's putting in the effort, but a lot of what's in them is less analysis and more summarizing posts, particularly in the Clem one. I'm also not sure how I feel about the Clem one in particular - Clem is someone she says she has a hard time reading, but then her ISO on him is only 3 of his posts, which doesn't scream "putting in a lot of effort to try to read him."

 

[supershorty]

Zenge and fruits weren't talking to each other, they were trying to convince other players to follow a rae wagon.

Oh, I see. I misinterpreted that line. Thanks.

 

[WildZoo]

There was quite a bit of similarity in voting pattern between Dubz and Fruit yesterday that I am finding interesting despite fruit bebopping all over the place. It's just eeking me out. I am also trying to figure out what the faction strategy might've been with the way the voting played out but not entirely sure.

I was uncomfortable with the Zenge vote, became uncomfortable with my CG wagon, and was village reading fruit, I was okay with voting with him if he felt he had a strong line on someone (hence my briefly voting for barks).

From my perspective he was trying to save Zenge. It would be fair to read that as partnering but given I'm reading both of them village I think it's also fair to say he just thought the Zenge vote was wrong. That's how I'm interpreting it at the moment anyway.

 

[SARdoghandler]

Hm, is this still your village pile now? It gave me some pause seeing Clem and Alissa there but I suppose at this point a few others were village reading her too

Yeah. Plus can probably put dubz and shorty in it too

 

[supershorty]

@kitzsuna Can I get some thoughts from you? Yesterday, it seemed like you were primarily feeling sus about the higher posters, particularly me and Dubz. Can you explain that more? Who are you feeling good about and why?

 

[alissa14]

Spoiler: More quotes

Can confirm I did say that. I do 100% prefer scum, but no, I didn't pick it this time

This reads village vibes to me. If I were scum, I probably wouldn’t try and openly call attention to this.

This is my reply to CG’s post above. Yes, I am aware it’s faulty logic. I am bad at scum. I have always been yeeted and have not been part of a winning scum faction (other than weird potential post-death conversion cult mechanics I think?)

noted

really? that post doesn't tell me either way

I’ve already called attention to it

Openly call attention to something someone else already said? What?

The above posts are in reply to my post

Yeah I’m saying I would try to quietly ignore it and hope it would go away as scum lol. Though I’ve never won a game as part of scum faction so maybe this logic is flawed anyways

This is my flawed logic

No I don't think most people just ignore it when they're on the board and the argument of "well they said they would generally choose to be scum" is made, regardless of affiliation lol

I stand by my initial reaction that if I had said in a recent previous game that I prefer playing scum and am now playing in a game with CYO mechanics and someone brought up my recent remarks, I would initially try to quietly ignore it and hope it goes away. Is this the smartest move???? Probably not, but that was my initial reaction to reading that post and how I think I would’ve responded

Y'all sure alissa is village?

I mean I'm not voting her anyway but like

This is the second time she's said something that I've actually seen and I've been like

HUH?

I would like to know what dubz’s thoughts are now with CG’s flip. Dubz is my top scum read right now

She's sinking in my reads like a lead balloon

I still am sus of zenge but will trust shorty right now….

Her calling CG village for "bringing attention" to the thing samac said about her liking scumming

This is when dubz misquoted me

Oh so you are reading my posts now!

Actually you know what

I'm back to

yeet CG

Yes because you're posting them while I'm here!

I think the fact that the two things that have made me go huh about alissa's posts are directly related to defending CG and scumreading Zenge are interesting given the tallies at the time

And here she is also making it sound like I defended CG when I did not do so.

I never called CG village, I said it gave me village vibes. This is my attempt to better get a read on the players that are new to me. Also, I’m pretty sure I have a history of having deeply flawed logic at and that’s never been AI of me

Semantics!

I wasn’t wrong when I say semantics are important in this case. I really didn’t like the feeling that dubz was trying to fabricate a reason to misyeet me in the future depending on how CG flipped.

Ah, this is what @WildZoo was talking about.


Alissa, can you walk me through this a little more? I'm not fully following why that statement would be AI - it's something CeeGee would probably need to address regardless of her aff in this game because it's a statement she'd made previously (that she'd prefer to be scum), so if anything, it might get her more sus to just ignore a statement like that (whether she's town or not here).

I can try….. but also sometimes I say things and I go back and I don’t even know what I’m saying! This is why I wish everyone could plug themselves into my brain so they can get a real-time understanding of my thought process because it makes sense in my head but I sometimes have difficulty expressing it coherently. All I was trying to say was it gave me village vibes because her doing that was not something I would personally do as scum. Is that flawed logic? Sure! But that is what my instant reaction was to that post in the moment. I’ve been trying to give my thoughts in real time as they come to me before I forget them to try to give people insight into my chaos of a brain

i really don’t like this from dubz. I am in no way defending CG and I feel like she’s trying to spin a narrative here because it feels like she’s putting words in my mouth

Potentially alissa (I have y'all possibly partnered in my brain right now so that's fun!)

Spurs dropped out of my village reads but not really far enough that I want to vote him while he's not here to defend himself

Otherwise the non-null reads I have are village ones. PSV, kitz, genny, SAR, fruit.

Shrugs you broke a tie in her favor

Yeah I can totally see how the progression of me giving CG village vibes and then breaking the tie in her favor looks TERRIBLE for me lol. This was not my intent. The tie was making me antsy. I know I know there was still time left but I dislike ties. I will never forget The Tie Lesson from my noob game (thx Dubz <3). I really just wanted to break the tie and I have been consistently scum reading zenge since yesterday.

This is in response to dubz saying I broke a tie in CG’s favor. If CG had flipped scum, I would be in hot water because I did say an albeit non-AI post gave me village vibes solely based on how I would approach a game (despite it being faulty logic).

The above is a bunch of quotes of CG/alissa (me)/dubz/+more interactions. I really don’t like Dubz pushing this narrative that I was trying to defend CG and call her village. I know she was behind on thread yesterday and was basing off of recent posts, but I’m hoping she’s had a little more time to be more caught up. I am a frequent misyeet target and I’m in a place in my life where I can actually put in the effort to be a good villager after being in retirement for the last few years. I will be real upsetti spaghetti if I’m misyeeted for one stupid post because I have never been really great at this game quite honestly and sometimes I just say stupid **** that doesn’t make any sense

 

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This is a little bit interesting to me because I think this is the exact opposite take from someone who was sussing him for that comment (it might have been CeeGee, but don't quote me on that).

I'm not sure about how I feel about these mini-ISOs that rae is doing - I like that she's putting in the effort, but a lot of what's in them is less analysis and more summarizing posts, particularly in the Clem one. I'm also not sure how I feel about the Clem one in particular - Clem is someone she says she has a hard time reading, but then her ISO on him is only 3 of his posts, which doesn't scream "putting in a lot of effort to try to read him."

Awww, my mom is reading my posts

I'm pulling out stuff that feels pingy and or game relevant and not just **** posting. I'm trying to find examples of things that make me suspicious or comfortable and then summarize that. Are you specifically looking for me to have more solid analysis?

 

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Also I'm doing this in between assignments I get done, hence the slow roll in

 

[Barkley13]

raes made that cryptic post and then vanished...

This feels weird from fruits, throwing shade after it had already been pointed out to be sketchy. Along with only bringing up me all day when I was absent where there were people he could’ve talked to/tried to push in real time and all the waffling at the end for no stated reasons

 

[supershorty]

I'm pulling out stuff that feels pingy and or game relevant and not just **** posting. I'm trying to find examples of things that make me suspicious or comfortable and then summarize that.

I'm just not sure that the posts you pulled in Clem's ISO seem like they do much of that? You mentioned being suspicious of the first one, which seemed like a pretty clear joke to me (though I don't think it's AI for you to miss humor in things, based on watching you in other games), but there's not much follow-through on either of the other two.

Are you specifically looking for me to have more solid analysis?

I mean, yes lol I think it's helpful when people analyze, but not everyone plays that way.

 

[kitzsuna]

@kitzsuna Can I get some thoughts from you? Yesterday, it seemed like you were primarily feeling sus about the higher posters, particularly me and Dubz. Can you explain that more? Who are you feeling good about and why?

I guess to me (because i am not following as closely/intently?) the high posts = a bit straw grabby, trying to point fingers where i’m not really seeing a lot of evidence to point at and a way to misdirect. But that could also be me!

I will say after seeing someone consolidate all of the fruit flip flop votes that did ping me pretty hard as scummy, as someone who doesnt like to change votes and flop around

I havent decided who i am voting on tomorrow yet. (If i make it through tonight lol)

 

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though I don't think it's AI for you to miss humor in things, based on watching you in other games

Ouch /jk

I mean, yes lol I think it's helpful when people analyze, but not everyone plays that way.

I guess in my mind I am sort of analyzing? Normally if I was doing a deep dive on a player I'd be looking at their interactions with others as well, which I have tried to pull some stuff I think is weird across people, but I'm genuinely feeling overwhelmed by the sheer amount of content we have only being at N1. Like holy crap, I'm used to this being at least D2 if not D3 by now.

 

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I guess to me (because i am not following as closely/intently?) the high posts = a bit straw grabby, trying to point fingers where i’m not really seeing a lot of evidence to point at and a way to misdirect. But that could also be me!

I will say after seeing someone consolidate all of the fruit flip flop votes that did ping me pretty hard as scummy, as someone who doesnt like to change votes and flop around

I havent decided who i am voting on tomorrow yet. (If i make it through tonight lol)

Flip flopping fruit is not pingy. Fruit is the waffliest waffler to ever waffle. It's the ring around a rosie he did toward the end of the night that got me.

 

[GoSpursGo]

@GoSpursGo, can you talk to me more about your reads on Dubz, samac, and kitz, in particular?
I'm primarily curious about those because you didn't skip most of my posts (or at least didn't own up to it 😛) even though I had substantially more than Dubz. But I don't want to put words in your mouth about content:fluff ratio if that's not what you were getting at.

So I'll be honest, most of your posts in the catch up I also skipped 😛 But I caught enough of them as I breezed through that I could tell you put in a lot of effort into making your reads, and I think you and I had some interactions yesterday in real time that felt good. Those were enough to give me village-y vibes on you. Nothing in particular stood out about dubZ's posts as I breezed through to push me one way or the other, and I'm definitely not going to go post-by-post, and even if I did I don't believe I would be able to confidently say village or scum. So I landed on neutral.

samac and kitz both have gotten some town reads from other players because of conversations surrounding their roles/discards (especially kitz) - did samac's mason thing factor into your read at all?

samac's mason thing did not factor into my read at all. TBH I really am not thinking about affiliation claims. I'm sorry if you're looking for more, but for samac it really is just vibes, "something felt off."

For kitz, I think a lot of people derpcleared her for the discussion you mentioned above. But what stood out to me was I think she only offered reads when pressed, and only then offered negative opinions on highly visible posters (you, dubZ, and samac) and someone who W-read her (apop). Those reads don't look very village-y to me.

What do you mean with the "got flack for limited reasoning" on rae - my instinct is to read that with a negative connotation, is that how it is intended to be written?

Sorry, I think you misunderstood--I think she got flack from other players for limited reasoning on her reads lists, and it seemed to be part of what led other players to start a wagon on her. I did not have that criticism of her reads list, and I found the interaction between me and her today to be pretty genuine.

What differences are there in your world right now between rae and Barky that separated them into different tiers, is it solely the vote reasoning?

Yes. After reading that the site was under maintenance when they tried to catch up, I think that's fair. I assume at some point Barky will give some reasoning for their vote...

 

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the site was under maintenance

This also screwed me up last night too. I don't think I fully caught up until some time late this morning, and honestly I'm partly doing the tiny ISOs because it's helping me catch up in context.