Stagg.... that one game where he wolfed, well, this feels very similar. He had a lot to say, it all sounded reasonable, he made an enemy out of me or others, backtracked on that.... in fact, I can only recall one game where he was such a "voice of the town" and he was wolf. Keep in mind while I rely heavily on meta, I often remember it wrong too. Think one time I mentally invented a wolf meta for someone who had never wolfed.
Let's think about that for a minute. I've played a total of 5 or 6 games. My most vocal village game was Colorado, which was my first time playing. Second game every was Smash, which was my second week of residency and an IM rotation, so I had almost no time to contribute and it was a 60+ page game. Next game I played was WWedding where I was lynched D1 for RNG voting. Next game was Lurking, aka my glorious return. The next game I played was Halloween, which I got NK'd N1. Which brings us to this game. So I've really only been active in my debut, my wolf game, and now. So what are you actually basing this statement off?
Also, this game has significantly fewer posts than most of the other games I was active in. Colorado ended up being over 40 pages and Smash was over 40 pages by the third day. So I think it seems like I'm more active because this game is so much less active than a lot of other recent games.
This makes no sense to me. For a wolf move it's just dandy. I don't know if AM would do that, my sense is that she's generally conservative as a wolf, just as she is as a villager.
This is something that had me thinking, WIFOM incoming on AM potentially being a wolf:
On the surface it's an okay move, because she could begin to shade Dandy then Dandy dies and it looks like someone is trying to frame her. More experienced players could easily see through that strategy though as it just draws unnecessary attention to her in the wrong way. As a wolf you want to draw some attention (usually), but it has to be the right kind. This would not typically be the right kind imo and could easily be called out as a dumb wolf move, to which she could say "yea it would, so it supports me being village". My question is would wolf AM do that? It's definitely a more high-risk type of move and Idk what AM's wolfing style is, but it seems like it would be pretty bold for her.
The other thing that made me raise an eyebrow there was Mel's response that it would be stupid wolf move. It could be, but played the right way it can be a strong move as well and the reasoning is pretty WIFOM. I feel like Mel gets plenty of tin-foil theories, but I feel like he tries to avoid wifom when possible and something about the wording and timing of that comment seemed off to me. I still need to go back and iso a bit, but I feel like this has been a bit of an odd/off game for me so far and I need to re-analyze things a bit.
seriously, you can't see why that would happen?
That seemed a bit off to me as well, as said above.
you should know how to do that, as you've done it to me before
Really? I had no idea I pocketed anyone other than BJ. Seriously though, my ego about that game is already big enough, I don't need more encouragement.
You don't really know my SDN habits, and I don't feel like I need to explain them. I keep my online status and what I'm looking at on at all times. This is partly to be transparent for y'all, but also, I have an SDN life outside WW. Wolves that are trying to avoid WW thread as a strategy, can be a lot smarter than the logic people use in trying to use SDN activity to stalk them.
My point wasn't just that I saw you were on. My point was that you were on, people here were asking you to check in, then when you did your initial response was not well thought-out and seemed retaliatory/overly defensive. It reminded me of Safari before you were confirmed as alpha. If this were a large game or you had a ton of posts to catch up on that would be one thing. But at that point we weren't even on page 5 yet, so I expected at least something other than you saying the two people who voted for you/tagged you to be suspicious. I also thought your initial post after you found out you were leading the lynch made me want to leave my vote on you. Because if you were a wolf, the blocker claim is a great way to try and gain some desperate village cred. If you're village, you potentially screwed village by revealing that without even trying other ways to defend yourself. It did not help village either way. Here's the response I initially wrote up to your post, but decided to wait to post because you decided to actually catch up and play:
"Okay, kind of pissed about this post. If you read the literally 3 pages of game play (that's nothing Cray, c'mon) you'd know the seer is already dead. Got NK'd last night.
Addressing post volume, it's a speed game and likely to last less than 4 days. If you're basically not here for 2 full days wtf are we supposed to do? Let you just skate? Because that's literally how wolves won last game. Everyone just ignored Allie because she wasn't around and she ended up being the wolf. If you're not going to play, then why shouldn't we vote for you?
I didn't WANT to vote for you because of inactivity. It was a pressure vote more than anything, which is why you've been tagged about 20 times. If you're literally going to contribute nothing though, I will vote for you. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Especially when you were posting on other threads instead of catching up on literally 2 pages of game play which takes all of 10-15 minutes it's shady.
Also, if you're actually village and just role revealed a PR like that, then you just screwed the village. Seriously, this actually makes you seem more like a wolf to me grasping at straws to try and last 1 more day."
I get that irl stuff takes priority and that you may do other things on SDN as well, but you came on and made a post implying you had at least read some of it because you gave opinions on wolfiness. So you should have seen how little there was to catch up on but your reasoning was still retaliatory. People weren't tagging you simply due to inactivity, it was because we were literally 1 day off of Mylo and you had contributed almost nothing. How are we supposed to figure out where you stand? Flip a coin? So the pressure wasn't just for inactivity, it was due to inactivity at what is likely endgame.
So the only way to tell the difference is blocking/protecting/redirecting/having a wolf and villager die in a tie together/wolves not submitting a kill/killing a wolf at night/etc... will lead into a true lylo.
