Fire Emblem: Three HoWWses Game Thread

[Santygrass]

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@holdthemayo zuri has subbed out (Now Lawpy is ln that slot) just fyi since questions directed at them are useless now haha

 

[SportPonies]

Until I can update official roster:

ZURIBURI is now LAWPY
CAPTNEMO is now SAMAC
HW_88 is now MAYO

 

[holdthemayo]

Mayos pls, zuris subbed out

I didn't make it that far yet

 

[StartingoverVet]

Do you have thoughts on the players you're familiar with? 🤔

I like to keep the people I know alive till later in the game. 🤣. Makes it easier.
WZ seems village-like to me.
AM …I have you more wolfy simply because your play style seems different to me. Post count? Perhaps.
genny- I thought she acted wolfy on the no yeet, but as I said, trying to take her out of my considerations so I don’t have a single point failure in analysis,
alleycat seems exactly as I remember, not much to go on there.
SARS I vaguely recall games , and posted way too much for me to go through right now. I think they should be my net read later.
lawpy played a few games with but not enough posts today much,

Thats all I am familiar with. Not a single player from my era sadly.

 

[holdthemayo]

Mayos pls, zuris subbed out

Are you structuring your reads lists in the same manner?

Am I still in the silent noob pack?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'm struggling to follow your logic in how you are making these POE. Why would there be a pack of noobs or why would you make a noob only list? It's usually RNG.

You list half the players as potentially in wolfpacks, but only with those other specific co-wolves?

Would April flipping wolf clear nemo, wonda, HW, and Veg? Does your noob pack still make sense with Samac and I now taking those roles? Can we be promoted to the helpful pocketing veteran pack?

You don't need to ask these questions because they won't be answered. zuri has been replaced with Lawpy.

 

[Santygrass]

My tinfoil is contingent on Edelgard (and possibly other faction leaders) having some op thing going on. Because in fe if a main protagonist of your route like the faction leader dies, it's game over right?

Yes, but flavor-wise things doesnt translate the same gameplay-wise.

So like, I also thought lf it (Specially with the Claude gif on the write-up) , but I wont put that as aff indicative. Specially with genny's post pre yeet and after yeet a bit idk. Just rub me the wrong way

 

[Lawpy]

Are you structuring your reads lists in the same manner?

Am I still in the silent noob pack?

Unlikely. I think you’re villagey. Noob uncertain.

 

[holdthemayo]

You don't need to ask these questions because they won't be answered. zuri has been replaced with Lawpy.

This is what happens when you post as you catch up.

 

[WildZoo]

Responding to this on my lunch break, not caught up but yes this is important.

No, not affiliation indicative specifically. I can make some educated guesses, but they are not 100%. But if people are somewhat village reading me, I'd like her kept around.

SAR pls

 

[Clem J]

Someone tell me if genny has posted today

 

[Animal Midwife]

Someone tell me if genny has posted today

Yeah, a handful of times. 😵

 

[Wiisp]

genny is dead I vigged her

 

[SARdoghandler]

SAR pls

I did say soft vouch!

 

[Lawpy]

Unofficial Day 2: Only Thorns on This Rose 🌹

Nate (5) - AM, genny, Wiisp, Poppy, miranda
PSV (3) - WildZoo/DubZ, fluff, Wondalfy
mothy ()
PlumPoppy (2) - April, SOV
VeggieTrex (1) - mothy
April (3) - SAR, Santy, samac
fluff (1) - mayo
Zenge (1) - Lawpy
Wisp (1) - Clem

17/23

Missing: slightly > half

Vote ends 10pm EST/9pm CST/etc TODAY, 1/16/23 (9 hours)

 

[SARdoghandler]

genny is dead I vigged her

Wow apparently I really do need to catch up?

 

[samac]

I didn't want to vote a noob and it felt safe to vote Nate. He wasn't in the lead, and I was reading Zuri more as 3P/village. I had zero read on Genny other than with Dubz was saying, but I didn't want to be accused of hopping on a bandwagon after nixing my yeet for Veg. Obvi, I maybe made the wrong choice now since Genny might be alpha.

I'm also not sure what to do with this, but it sounds like he's requesting a paternity test soooooo......maybe @NateTheLesser

I don't hate Nate. I've also never played in a game with him. I do feel like the yeets for both Wiisp and April came outta nowhere, although Wiisp did at one point end up on a 3/5 *** wolfly warning for me at some point in the D1 thread. April felt random. If Genny is an alpha, Nate did flip and vote Genny.

But the following also voted Genny. So, they could be woof that knows Genny is an alpha, or they genuinely thought Genny was a wolf (or Genny is none of the above and the mods are just forking with us): DubZ, Clem, alley, PlumPoppy, Santy, wiisp, fluff

It made me twitchy to say he voted for someone he didn’t believe in. Bleh

And before wiki-ing I think it maybe be more useful to just ISO vis tbh.

I think genny is pretty blatantly a wolf still and probably going to look for partners today. Fluff/Zuri/Psv/April maybe look good for being alternativez pushes to genny yesterday but I want to reread because Im notso sure how much it applies to April/Psv . Fluff/Zuri seem far more clear

Bleh

I don't know if we'll get any flips that say "x was village" because the factional component means that anyone with any additional wincon is not, technically, pure village. Even if their main goal is wolf death and additional goals are innocuous.

I agree with this.

Alright, question for anyone and everyone to answer

If you could ask the mods one question about the game's mechanics, hopefully out of helpfulness to village and not just out of curiosity, what would it be?

So what did we learn

Why mothy? If it’s because I yeeted my manator, that was solely out of not wanting to yeet a noob D1 (I believe I read from Dubz that they weren’t gonna yeet a noob and it felt like a good idea), and I’m also sus if Nate. And FWIW, I think I mentioned last night that Vis was also now on my radar. Why would I call out a wolf if I was wolf?

Gotta say I understand the boob clear but it could have been 2 pack confusion

You think Poppy bussed genny? 🤔

I hate all conversations and packs that are just assuming Genny = wolf

so does Genny's fluffiness commonly go into worlds where they are almost making fun of town, instead of having more of a fixation on alleviating the thoughts of them being a wolf from others?

I am failing to see how this behavior is good for the gamestate whatsoever, and its actually rather frustrating to see them continuing to post like this

Genny plays for the lulz. No matter affiliation.

 

[Lawpy]

Pls let me know if i missed votes. I started from KD’s last tally this morning and went from there

 

[samac]

Unlikely. I think you’re villagey. Noob uncertain.

Hey Lawpers. How you reading me?

 

[samac]

genny is dead I vigged her

Wait is this something you’ve done this cycle

 

[WildZoo]

genny is dead I vigged her

It's funny that there's enough players and activity and people catching up that something like this could be believed

 

[Lawpy]

Hey Lawpers. How you reading me?

Village pls

 

[samac]

It's funny that there's enough players and activity and people catching up that something like this could be believed

Last time I dealt with a vig like that sporty turned terminator and announced in a similar way on thread.

 

[Lawpy]

Sorry y'all I got a little too distracted by this new show that started today.. MILF Manor is wild, yo.

(Had some stuff to take care of and haven't had ww time today, but I'll be stuck at my computer all day tomorrow so I'll be around)

Thoughts pls.

 

[Lawpy]

Less about fluff and more about questioning whether samac's read is a tunnel or not. I've been flip flopping on my read of fluff and finally decided I wasn't going to worry about her but then samac came in and wolf read her immediately so now I'm trying to reassess

This bothers me

 

[Lawpy]

I didn’t like his D1 April vote. It felt manufactured, and I had/have April as a village read. It was also very off wagon, and it pings me when there are a few big wagons and someone slinks off to vote elsewhere without actually making a big push there and trying to drum up support.

Hmm. Zenges’s defense of Aprils noted.

 

[Lawpy]

I’m now hesitant to support a Nates yeet. Getting increasingly concerned about Zenges/Aprils.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I’m now hesitant to support a Nates yeet. Getting increasingly concerned about Zenges/Aprils.

What an incredibly village thought.

 

[WildZoo]

Hmm. Meanwhile I've felt a bit better about Zenge today

 

[genny]

What an incredibly village thought.

Is this sarcasm? The kitty makes me unsure

 

[WildZoo]

Or...maybe I'm not

 

[Clem J]

Yeah, a handful of times. 😵

Meh still gonna consider her outed

 

[chicandtoughness]

Guys I'm not gonna lie this is a lot. There are so many people in this game and y'all are all experienced, wacky characters that are hard to read lol.

Going through my list atm:

A lil wolfy:
- Nate (you strike me as an experienced player with good potential for analysis, but have been largely absent/not very assertive with your comments)
- Poppy (see my sus post from earlier in this day cycle)
- Zenge (sorry dad I just get bad vibes)
- PSV (others have summarized my concerns fairly well)

Reading sus but not wolf (factional agenda/faction exclusive wincon?):
- fluff (saying things that I don't feel is village-beneficial - see my vote justification from last day cycle - but would be absurd for wolf to blatantly say)
- SAR (for the sole reason they're endorsing fluff)
- Veggie (doesn't feel villagey but doesn't feel wolf)
- Santy (a lil chaotic in the posting but could just be style; making several excuses about #skillissue or "I can't find this" or "idk just rubs me wrong", which always feels sus to me when folks lean too hard on being self-deprecating)
- AM (gonna be honest, I'm kind of weirded out that you threw a vote on me, put me through a mini interrogation, and then have not addressed me at all or poked holes in any of my arguments since)
- Wiisp (some strange pings from defenses and challenges of others actions, also clearing April for what is - at least publicly - a rather silly reason; but is very focused on wolf hunting so idk)
- April (see Wiisp's comment above; I don't think Wiisp/April make sense as a w/w though)

Genuinely do not have a read because you haven't posted enough:
- Clem

Genuinely do not have a read for other reasons:
- Alley (unfamiliar with your gameplay)
- SOV (unfamiliar with your gameplay, also trying to set aside bias from your initial call-out of my real life fishing for sympathy lol)
- Nemo/Samac (entered game late, seems appropriately engaged but need more info)
- HW88/Mayo (entered game late, still waiting on more info, but leaning village)

Villagey:
- mothy
- miranda
- Wonda
- zuri/lawpy (genuinely do not think zuri would have self-voted if they were wolf; I know he was fed up but I also think if he was wolf he's kind enough to not sabotage his packmates like that)
- Dubz

Idk I'm ignoring you right now:
- genny

How much had you played before your noob game?

Chic has played elsewhere (can't remember in what format), so not the noobiest noob

It’s worth noting that Chic has a lot of WW experience, she’s just a noob to SDN.

Man, why y'all gotta be outing me like that 🤣

Yes, in full transparency I've played a lot of WW (ran the club at my undergrad college; we played party style, live-action style over multiple days, and on forums). I have never played closed formats though (in our games, it was always very clear which roles were in the games, and no roles were revealed on death), so SDN's format is very different to me and does impact my gameplay. As a result, you'll probably notice I spend a lot of time perseverating on what roles might be in the game/worry too much about mechanics.

I don’t understand how a noob came to this conclusion from the self vote without outside forces tbh. AM had made one post but otherwise what?

For some context on my thought process: I played with zuri in wolfpack last game. He was a very dedicated wolf, and at the same time tends to be very mindful of others in the game. (I think fluff gave a good example that zuri didn't want to vote out genny/fluff as he knew they would want to continue playing the game.) I highly doubt that if zuri were wolf, they would have just threw in the towel and set their faction back like that. A self-vote out of frustration wouldn't happen in the normal course of the game, and hence this hint at Zuri's role wouldn't be information we would have known otherwise. As a result, zuri/lawpy is definitely more village leaning to me.

I might have an idea of why SAR said this, and I’m not super inclined to believe it’s affiliation indicative.

@SARdoghandler can you say, are you sure the reason you’re vouching for Fluff is actually affiliation indicative?

Seems fishy.

 

[Clem J]

Guys I'm not gonna lie this is a lot. There are so many people in this game and y'all are all experienced, wacky characters that are hard to read lol.

Going through my list atm:

A lil wolfy:
- Nate (you strike me as an experienced player with good potential for analysis, but have been largely absent/not very assertive with your comments)
- Poppy (see my sus post from earlier in this day cycle)
- April (see Wiisp's comment above)
- Zenge (sorry dad I just get bad vibes)
- PSV (others have summarized my concerns fairly well)
- Wiisp (some strange pings from defenses and challenges of others actions, also clearing April for what is - at least publicly - a rather silly reason; but is very focused on wolf hunting so idk)
- April (see Wiisp's comment above)

Reading sus but not wolf (factional agenda/faction exclusive wincon?):
- fluff (saying things that I don't feel is village-beneficial - see my vote justification from last day cycle - but would be absurd for wolf to blatantly say)
- SAR (for the sole reason they're endorsing fluff)
- Veggie (doesn't feel villagey but doesn't feel wolf)
- Santy (a lil chaotic in the posting but could just be style; making several excuses about #skillissue or "I can't find this" or "idk just rubs me wrong", which always feels sus to me when folks lean too hard on being self-deprecating)
- AM (gonna be honest, I'm kind of weirded out that you threw a vote on me, put me through a mini interrogation, and then have not addressed me at all or poked holes in any of my arguments since)

Genuinely do not have a read because you haven't posted enough:
- Clem

Genuinely do not have a read for other reasons:
- Alley (unfamiliar with your gameplay)
- SOV (unfamiliar with your gameplay, also trying to set aside bias from your initial call-out of my real life fishing for sympathy lol)
- Nemo/Samac (entered game late, seems appropriately engaged but need more info)
- HW88/Mayo (entered game late, still waiting on more info, but leaning village)

Villagey:
- mothy
- miranda
- Wonda
- zuri/lawpy (genuinely do not think zuri would have self-voted if they were wolf; I know he was fed up but I also think if he was wolf he's kind enough to not sabotage his packmates like that)
- Dubz

Idk I'm ignoring you right now:
- genny





Man, why y'all gotta be outing me like that 🤣

Yes, in full transparency I've played a lot of WW (ran the club at my undergrad college). I have never played closed formats though (in our games, it was always very clear which roles were in the games, and no roles were revealed on death), so SDN's format is very different to me and does impact my gameplay. As a result, you'll probably notice I spend a lot of time perseverating on what roles might be in the game/worry too much about mechanics.



For some context on my thought process: I played with zuri in wolfpack last game. He was a very dedicated wolf, and at the same time tends to be very mindful of others in the game. I think fluff summarized it well that zuri didn't want to vote out genny/fluff as he knew they would want to continue playing the game. I highly doubt that if zuri were wolf, they would have just threw in the towel and set their faction back like that. A self-vote out of frustration wouldn't happen in the normal course of the game, and hence this hint at Zuri's role wouldn't be information we would have known otherwise. As a result, zuri/lawpy is definitely more village leaning to me.



Seems fishy.

Arguably I've posted too much

 

[holdthemayo]

Day 1: Outset of a Power Struggle

The day had come for students to meet again. After five years of betrayal and heartbreak on all sides, most of the students of Garreg Mach had become hardened soldiers, set to bring glory to their home states. The first clash in years on the Monastery’s grounds was fueled by disdain and heartbreak.

With the chaotic, frenzied rush into melee, a haze of confusion fell upon the field like a thick blanket until finally an onslaught of arrows rained on the field. Some dove for the bushes and others for crumbling stone overhangs. Others didn’t have the speed to take cover, and instead cowered under their steeds and shields.

Spoiler: Dead is...

No one

It was time to regroup.

Spoiler: The Roster

Arianrhod, The Silver Maiden:
@Santygrass
@Wondalfy
@HW_88
@Clem J
@motheatenlysis

Aillel, The Valley of Torment:
@VeggieTrex
@potentialsheltervet
@alleycat03
@genny
@Viscernable

The Mittelfrank Opera House:
@WildZoo
@SARdoghandler
@Zenge142
@Animal Midwife
@StartingoverVet

Garreg Mach Monastery:
@miranda920
@CaptNemo
@justafluff
@zuriburi

The Tailtean Plains:
@Aprilthearab
@PlumPoppy
@chicandtoughness
@NateTheLesser
@Wiisp

It is now Night 1. Night Close approximately 7 am Central.
Early night actions appreciated​

Just finished D1

@genny - why aren't you ded pls?

 

[WildZoo]

Seems fishy.

No I think it was a valid question. He didn't ask why she was vouching, but clarity on whether it's an affiliation vouch or something else is important.

 

[Lawpy]

I am having a hard time parsing wolf hunting from faction hunting, and Zenge is giving me the biggest issue here. Maybe everyone else is just being more subtle about factions, or maybe I just always think Zenge is wolfy. Or maybe there’s no seating in the next lecture I’m trying to go to, so I’m just staring at my phone waiting until I can close enough to scan the QR code and find a corner to introvert in

I don’t see wolf!genny doing this tbh. I think something weird went on with D1 yeet and genny was frustrated with the prevailing assumption that she’s an alpha just because she survived the yeet. Her initial posts after that came across as incredibly wolfy to me but looking back to her response to Nates’s post, combined with her response to chics’s nonzero alpha assumption and this post here gives me the notion that she’s a frustrated villager.

 

[chicandtoughness]

Edited my list because I can't focus and put some people in more than 1 group in my copy/paste terror.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Guys I'm not gonna lie this is a lot. There are so many people in this game and y'all are all experienced, wacky characters that are hard to read lol.

Going through my list atm:

A lil wolfy:
- Nate (you strike me as an experienced player with good potential for analysis, but have been largely absent/not very assertive with your comments)
- Poppy (see my sus post from earlier in this day cycle)
- April (see Wiisp's comment above)
- Zenge (sorry dad I just get bad vibes)
- PSV (others have summarized my concerns fairly well)

Reading sus but not wolf (factional agenda/faction exclusive wincon?):
- fluff (saying things that I don't feel is village-beneficial - see my vote justification from last day cycle - but would be absurd for wolf to blatantly say)
- SAR (for the sole reason they're endorsing fluff)
- Veggie (doesn't feel villagey but doesn't feel wolf)
- Santy (a lil chaotic in the posting but could just be style; making several excuses about #skillissue or "I can't find this" or "idk just rubs me wrong", which always feels sus to me when folks lean too hard on being self-deprecating)
- AM (gonna be honest, I'm kind of weirded out that you threw a vote on me, put me through a mini interrogation, and then have not addressed me at all or poked holes in any of my arguments since)
- Wiisp (some strange pings from defenses and challenges of others actions, also clearing April for what is - at least publicly - a rather silly reason; but is very focused on wolf hunting so idk)
- April (see Wiisp's comment above; I don't think Wiisp/April make sense as a w/w though)

Genuinely do not have a read because you haven't posted enough:
- Clem

Genuinely do not have a read for other reasons:
- Alley (unfamiliar with your gameplay)
- SOV (unfamiliar with your gameplay, also trying to set aside bias from your initial call-out of my real life fishing for sympathy lol)
- Nemo/Samac (entered game late, seems appropriately engaged but need more info)
- HW88/Mayo (entered game late, still waiting on more info, but leaning village)

Villagey:
- mothy
- miranda
- Wonda
- zuri/lawpy (genuinely do not think zuri would have self-voted if they were wolf; I know he was fed up but I also think if he was wolf he's kind enough to not sabotage his packmates like that)
- Dubz

Idk I'm ignoring you right now:
- genny





Man, why y'all gotta be outing me like that 🤣

Yes, in full transparency I've played a lot of WW (ran the club at my undergrad college). I have never played closed formats though (in our games, it was always very clear which roles were in the games, and no roles were revealed on death), so SDN's format is very different to me and does impact my gameplay. As a result, you'll probably notice I spend a lot of time perseverating on what roles might be in the game/worry too much about mechanics.



For some context on my thought process: I played with zuri in wolfpack last game. He was a very dedicated wolf, and at the same time tends to be very mindful of others in the game. I think fluff summarized it well that zuri didn't want to vote out genny/fluff as he knew they would want to continue playing the game. I highly doubt that if zuri were wolf, they would have just threw in the towel and set their faction back like that. A self-vote out of frustration wouldn't happen in the normal course of the game, and hence this hint at Zuri's role wouldn't be information we would have known otherwise. As a result, zuri/lawpy is definitely more village leaning to me.



Seems fishy.

Which arguments of yours do you think are flawed and require me to poke holes in? 🤔

 

[chicandtoughness]

Just finished D1
@genny - why aren't you ded pls?

Mayo asking the direct questions lol

 

[genny]

Just finished D1

@genny - why aren't you ded pls?

Didn’t feel like dying

 

[Wiisp]

I dont find it silly for me to believe my informative one-shot is useful, nor that I managed to hit someone with a random horse as their flavor, and should assume mechanically it means nothing

socially April has had a couple of pings
I think there is a chance they are with Nate as well

but neither have effectively town told at any point this game

 

[holdthemayo]

Didn’t feel like dying

Let me know when the inspiration hits you

 

[samac]

Holy **** I’m caught up

Hello I have read almost nothing and am emotionally scarred from my last dnd session

Yeet April

Nerd

What does DND have to do with yeeting April?

Or just generally can you explain your vote here?

Don’t like the reaction to the april vote

But why? It made sense to me. A wolf would have tried to self prez no matter what. Nate was just pointing out that Zuri’s reluctance to self prez leans him more village.

Not true. Wolves are weird man.

if April is a wolf, their flavor is a ****ing horse, a random horse of the church, that Marianne of the golden deers has a connection to

Have you also kept your eye on anyone?

 

[genny]

AM (gonna be honest, I'm kind of weirded out that you threw a vote on me, put me through a mini interrogation, and then have not addressed me at all or poked holes in any of my arguments since)

This is what happens when others become her priority, I don’t think there’s anything weird about it

 

[samac]

Village pls

When’s the last time I was village that you didn’t tunnel me into the ground?

 

[Lawpy]

Wiisp (some strange pings from defenses and challenges of others actions, also clearing April for what is - at least publicly - a rather silly reason; but is very focused on wolf hunting so idk)

Wait where did Wispy clear Aprils?

 

[genny]

Let me know when the inspiration hits you

I don’t think I can. If it hits me, I’m dead.

 

[Lawpy]

When’s the last time I was village that you didn’t tunnel me into the ground?

samacs pls those are all tot!Lawpy tunnels

But also my memory is like a sieve so the only games i remember playing with you are Bowling and Bioshock

 

[samac]

samacs pls those are all tot!Lawpy tunnels

But also my memory is like a sieve so the only games i remember playing with you are Bowling and Bioshock

Didn’t realize tot tunnels were different tunnels lol